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Calendar.el in Croatian language
arthurno1 · 2022-11-20 16:35
arthurno1 · 2022-11-20 16:37
I have been using this myself for quite some time, but I never uploaded it separately out of my setup. If any Croatian speaking emacsers are here, please let me know if I have all the dates and names correctly. I haven't been living there for ~30 years now; some names are becoming fuzzy :).
harsh_mistress · 2022-11-21 16:32
Hi! Native Croatian speaker here. I haven't had time to test it yet but I did look over the code and here are some remarks, if you don't mind a bit of nitpicking :)
\- the lunar phases - we have specific terms (often used in astronomy literature) for the young moon: "Mlađak" and for the full moon: "Uštap" as seen [here](https://zvjezdarnica.hr/znanost/mjeseceve-mijene/) on the website of the Zagreb observatory. Using "Mladi mjesec" and "Puni mjesec" is still fine.
\- typo in "Bogojavnljenje ili Sveta tri kralja" - should be "Bogojavljenje"
\- Mother's day is commonly referred to as "Majčin dan" - see [wikipedia](https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maj%C4%8Din_dan) as an example. What you put in for Father's day ("Dan očeva") is fine - it's just one of many inconsistencies in Croatian :).
\- Sundays of Advent - if you wanna go full Croatian, you'd say "Došašće" instead of Advent - Advent is fine too, these are used interchangeably in Croatian. Saying "Prvi Advent" doesn't mean much - I think you're trying to refer to the Sundays (nedljelje). Then these would translate to "Prva nedjelja Došašća" (and then Druga, Treca, and Četvrta).
hope this helps, thanks for the contribution!
arthurno1 · 2022-11-23 23:40
Hi Native Croatian speaker there, cool to hear from you!
Thank you very much for the input, that was actually exactly what I needed! Forgive me for bit late answer, I thought I would be able to fix all that today, but I honestly, totally forgott it. I'll try to fix all you mentioned tomorrow, or in the very soon future.
Yes it helps a lot, thank you for the response!
arthurno1 · 2022-11-24 12:02
> one of many inconsistencies in Croatian :).
We are not inconsistent, we are just flexible! :-)
Just kidding; I have grown up in Bosnia, with a somewhat different dialect of Croatian language, so I was always bad with older names and terms, in Croatian language.
Anyway, see I have got it correctly now, I am a bit unsure about Došašće.
Also, another question I was struggling with when I did it, was the two-letter abbreviations for the week days. If I remembered well from my primary school, but it was long time ago, we abbreviated things on the first consonant, thus Ponedjeljak = pn, Utorak = ut, Cetvrtak = ct and so on. But when I looked online for Croatian grammar, I couldn't find it. What I see is po, ut, sr, ce ... Which one is correct? The latter with just the first two letters, or the first one?
harsh_mistress · 2022-11-24 12:57
>Just kidding; I have grown up in Bosnia, with a somewhat different dialect of Croatian language, so I was always bad with older names and terms, in Croatian language.
As someone born in northern Croatia, I couldn't tell that this was the case. I guess that's a good thing in terms of standardization :D.
>Anyway, see I have got it correctly now, I am a bit unsure about Došašće.
Like I said, you can go both ways - Advent is fine. Purists would stick with the Slavic word but it's not that important honestly. [Advent](https://www.adventzagreb.hr/) is probably more widespread these days.
>Also, another question I was struggling with when I did it, was the two-letter abbreviations for the week days. If I remembered well from my primary school, but it was long time ago, we abbreviated things on the first consonant, thus Ponedjeljak = pn, Utorak = ut, Cetvrtak = ct and so on. But when I looked online for Croatian grammar, I couldn't find it. What I see is po, ut, sr, ce ... Which one is correct? The latter with just the first two letters, or the first one?
I'm not sure if I ever encountered two letter abbreviations for weekdays in Croatian. It was always the three letter ones: pon, uto, sri, cet, pet, sub, ned.
If it has to be two letters, then "po, ut, sr, ce.." seems more natural to my ear.
Googling "po, ut, sr, ce" vs "pn, ut, sr, ct" seems to confirm that.
arthurno1 · 2022-11-24 13:10
Super!
> Googling "po, ut, sr, ce" vs "pn, ut, sr, ct" seems to confirm that.
Fixed. If you find anything else, let me know.
Hvala!
Northern Croatia? Moji su iz Cabune ... izmedju Slatine i Virotice, ali ja sam odrastao u Bosni. Ali sam zivio par godina u Djurdjevcu pak se morem menit i po Zagorski :).
harsh_mistress · 2022-11-24 14:18
Nema problema!
Ja sam iz Koprivnice, znaci isto Podravina :). Au Djurdjevac, to je poseban naglasak, oni se samo medjusobno razumiju kad krenu pricati po svom :D.
Odakle iz Bosne? Imam puno prijatelja odatle.
arthurno1 · 2022-11-24 14:21
> Au Djurdjevac, to je poseban naglasak
Ako mene pitas, Virjevcani su jos komplikovaniji :-).
Bosanska Gradiska.
harsh_mistress · 2022-11-24 14:37
>Ako mene pitas, Virjevcani su jos komplikovaniji :-).
ok mogu se sloziti :D.
>Bosanska Gradiska.
ah, znaci rat :(. nadam se da ti je dobro gdje si sad.
arthurno1 · 2022-11-24 14:53
Jepp. U Svedskoj, od 94'.