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Retiring Rational Emacs, Long Live Crafted Emacs!
wolfjb · 2022-07-16 04:22
flexibeast · 2022-07-16 05:08
> Crafted Emacs. This the new name. This name represents the project better in the following ways: It doesn't sound elitist.
Well .... in my circles, 'crafted' is something typically associated with pretentious hipsters ('artisanal hand-crafted beer'). Just a data point. :-)
darudesandstrom · 2022-07-16 05:52
Handcrafted by the most rational Devs.
flexibeast · 2022-07-16 05:55
:-) When i see the word 'rational' in an ICT product name, i tend to think of [Rational Rose](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Rational_Rose_XDE).
Trout_Tickler · 2022-07-16 07:09
You can just do `git remote set-url origin git@github.com:SystemCrafters/crafted-emacs`
Also FYI there are still tonnes of references to rational in the codebase
invsblduck · 2022-07-16 07:53
"Rational" doesn't sound elitist, it sounds pragmatic! It might be redundant redundant when coupled with "Emacs," however, since Emacs and its community are highly intelligent. The word "rational" means "logical" and "well reasoned," so most Intelligent people find the term appealing as it connotes objectivity and lack of bias (not entitlement nor social superiority).
You could rename it "Small-batch" or similar to really crank up the elitism. 😁 Or just 1337macs, even.
Trout_Tickler · 2022-07-16 08:31
It also implies it's done
whudwl · 2022-07-16 10:31
For one, "rational" can be confusing. e.g. when you say "rational emacs update", it sounds like you are going to talk about how to do emacs update rationally.
gravygrowinggreen · 2022-07-16 12:16
I for one appreciated your attempts to express emacs as a quotient of two integers.
WallyMetropolis · 2022-07-16 14:25
If you've ever seen my config, you'd quickly be disabused of the notion that "rational emacs" is redundant.
FrozenOnPluto · 2022-07-16 15:16
I’d say its elitist by virtue of implying all the other Emacsen are irrational :)
(My config is thousands of lines and certainly IS irrational, but it works damnit!)
wolfjb · 2022-07-16 15:17
I updated the blog post with your git command, thanks for the tip!
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The references in the [README.org](https://README.org) and (hopefully) obviously in the \`rational2crafted.el\` file are intentional. N.B. I did clean up some dangling references in files that should have been removed and in comments in the example files. Thanks!!
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femol · 2022-07-16 16:25
Dear God no, don't bring these memories back
stoopidjonny · 2022-07-16 17:09
Goddamn hipster Yoshi
https://yoshiscraftedworld.nintendo.com/
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tangonov · 2022-07-16 17:39
Not to be negative, but when I first saw "rational emacs," I did not understand what was rational about it. Fast forward to today, I don't mind the new name, but it isn't any more descriptive.
mavvam · 2022-07-17 08:32
Doom emacs, spacemacs,centaur emacs don't seems very descriptive either. What kind of name would you propose?
lambda_abstraction · 2022-07-17 13:59
Or rationalized by the developers most handy with crafts.
*Handcrafted developers sounded odd.*
lambda_abstraction · 2022-07-17 14:00
You poor thing. Have a tissue.
flexibeast · 2022-07-17 14:02
Wow, thanks for the gratuitous condescension. Was that really necessary?
lambda_abstraction · 2022-07-17 14:04
Wow! I thought there was a vigorous disdain for that sort of stiff biz dev culture that gave rise to things like Rational Rose. Calm! I'm expressing sympathy.
tangonov · 2022-07-17 14:44
Doom and Centaur take inspiration from other things, this is not meant to be descriptive :) (Space)macs is a play on the space-bar being your primary leader.
Rational is a qualifying adjective, all custom configs are "crafted," so that feels ambiguous.
Maybe something like "Crafter's Emacs" or "Craftmacs"
WaitingForEmacs · 2022-07-17 19:30
I finally tried this out and really enjoyed it. I have always been a vanilla emacs user but I like the modular design here. It definitely introduced me to a few libraries that I had not tried before, e.g. I was confused after hitting Ctrl-s, but the settings are cool.
Competitive-Source66 · 2022-07-18 03:17
CrEmacs! Ya gotta love it!
epicwisdom · 2022-07-18 08:24
The irony on this comment is so high I can't tell if you're whooshing or I'm whooshing.
invsblduck · 2022-07-19 05:22
Lol, did we just become best friends??!