ndpian · 2022-05-18 20:19
I was just scrolling HN when I came by this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31420433. It seems Google is going to disable IMAP by end of this month. Does it mean my current setup won't work in June? If Imap is gone, probably the only viable option would be to use Davmail server.
jacmoe · 2022-05-18 22:20
You can keep using it, but you need to enable two factor login with Google, and then create an application password. Switch to using that password for your mue4 configuration.
MagpieMars · 2022-05-18 22:38
Have been using an App Password with mu4e/gnus for as far back as I can remember
Was rather simple and seamless to switch
ieure · 2022-05-19 02:54
Correct, you can use 2FA and an app password. It's how I do my work email.
But please, if you can, move your email off Google. You can keep using it this time, but it's clear they're running the 90s Microsoft playbook of embrace, extend, extinguish... with the whole Internet.
Phil-Hudson · 2022-05-19 10:58
Sounds like a good idea. Anyone know anything about Fastmail? https://www.fastmail.com/
_noctuid · 2022-05-19 13:26
Never heard of it. Fastmail apparently never made it on to the privacytools.io list for [its geographical location](https://github.com/privacytools/privacytools.io/issues/603). See [here](https://www.privacyguides.org/email/) for some other recommendations. There are also malifence and posteo. I use posteo and mailbox.org. The main two weird things about posteo is that there is no spam folder (detected spam is rejected with no option to change this), and you can't use a custom domain (because they don't want to have any information on you/your name). Mailbox.org can optionally reject spam and lets you use your custom domain. I like it a lot so far.
ieure · 2022-05-19 18:11
I use Fastmail, they're fine. $50 a year. Nothing super outstanding, but they're low bullshit, just get out of the way and let you send/receive email.
I would host my own, but that's pretty much impossible these days, also due to Google, which heavily penalizes small MTAs.
holgerschurig · 2022-05-19 18:52
As long as [lieer](https://github.com/gauteh/lieer) (a.k.a. gmailieer) works, I don't have a problem at all. It's much faster than mbsync. And it should work with both notmuch (which I use) and mu4e.
lieer makes you setup your own private API key, and then uses Google's JSON based API to sync mail. So I don't think it's influenced by this OAUTH2/IMAP problem.
Am I correct with that assessment?