John Rain · 2024-08-30 04:40
I stumbled across this website: https://seventhlifepath.com/numerology
I'm generally pretty sceptical, when it comes to stuff like this... but everything that has happened in my life made sense when it said I had Karmic Debt 16/7. Can someone explain what it means.
Yet Another Lainon · 2024-08-30 06:46
>but everything that has happened in my life made sense when it said I had Karmic Debt 16/7. Can someone explain what it means.
>everything ... made sense.
>explain what it means
Lain, you aren't making sense.
If you had some astral epiphany, why do you need further explanation?
Regardless, I'll take a swing at it.
Astrology/numerology generally relies on certain set characteristics, such as your birthday (source: your url).
Note that there are currently ~8,173,589,700 people on earth.
There are 365 possible birthdays. Let's assume births are evenly distributed (unlikely, but let's be generous). That means that 22,393,396 people share your birthday.
Do those 22 million people all have the same destiny as you?
>B-b-but what about the hour and minute of my birth?
~15,551 share the minute of your birth.
>B-b-but the second!
Still 259 people.
>B-but the location!
I'm doubtful that most numerologists ask for all this, but we can play our trump card here- identical twins. They share a birthday, a birth location, and LOOK the same. Yet their lives certainly turn out differently?
This isn't exactly a new argument, here's St. Augustine, The City of God, Book V, cc. 1-7I:
Source (I recommend just reading the whole section: https://inters.org/Augustine-Critique-to-Astrology)
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But arbitrarily to drag in the position of the sky and the stars at the time of conception or birth in order to explain the simultaneous sickness, when so many individuals of different races, whose activities and fortunes differed so widely, could have been conceived and born at the same time in one quarter of the earth under one aspect of the celestial sphere, this is a strange piece of arrogance.
Moreover, we have known twins who not only had different occupations and traveled to different places, but also suffered different kinds of sickness. A very easy explanation of this fact, it seems to me, would be given by Hippocrates. He would say that because of differences of food and exercise (matters depending not on bodily constitution, but on the mind's free choice) they might very well experience different states of health. But if we ask Posidonius or any other advocate of the fatal influence of the stars, I should be surprised if he could find anything to say, unless he should choose to dazzle the minds of the ignorant in matters of which they know nothing, but some illusion. They try to make a point of the small interval of time that separates the birth of twins, because of the minute division of the sky where the notation of the hour is placed which they call a “horoscope.” But either this is too small to explain the diversity in will, acts, character and good or bad luck of twins, or else it is too great to allow for the identity of low or high estate in the case of twins. For they account for the greatest differences of this sort solely by considering the hour of birth. Hence, if one twin is born so soon after the other that the horoscope remains the same for each, I demand that everything in their lives should be the same – but such twins can never be found. But if the delayed delivery of the second child changes the horoscope, I demand that they should have different parents, which twins cannot have.
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>But if numerology is fake why do I feel like it explains things?
Same reason palm reading and gypsy magic work-
1) Everyone's life follows similar broad patterns, abuse these to make generalizations that apply to anyone
2) You only pay attention to the statements that look "right", and gloss over the other ones
Note I'm not some fedora-wearing uberhard antimagic /r/skeptic. But the funny number people are pretty low on the totem pole of plausible magic.
channerchan · 2024-08-31 10:44
>>7244
i don't think you understand destiny. would you care to define it? so that i could better understand what you're saying
Unspecified · 2024-08-31 11:19
>>7245
I'll bite.
Destiny: "The pre-determined series of events a person will experience. Compare: Fate."
I would agree that your place/time of birth shape your destiny, by definition.
I would disagree that astrologo-numerologists can extract meaningful information of the sort they claim to possess from the place/time of your birth, since their criteria are too broad. (E.g: asking just for a birthday to predict a destiny, when lots of people share a birthday and turn out very differently, the purported signal is drowning in noise and has nothing to do with the alignment of the heavens).
Note: I'm not claiming destiny is/isn't a thing, just defining it for the purpose of discussion.
BloodCat · 2024-08-31 13:29
Numerology is bullshit, and that is coming from someone who is open minded to astrology. I once found a site you would get a full report of numerology like everything didnt cost me anything and it was inaccurate whenever it tried to be specific. My life path according to site you linked claims im upbeat, which i would be if i wasnt so miserably depressed for most my life.
Elliot Alderson · 2024-09-01 07:30
This thing is total bs, tells me I have no karmic debt, then why my life so tough bitch?
Cowboy · 2024-09-01 08:34
>>7248
because you're lazy or ineffective or something