How to stop lucid dreaming?

I've spent the last 3-4 years working on lucid dreaming, writing down all my dreams, tuning WBTB alarms, practicing reality checks etc. I started being successful about 2 years ago, while still quite patchy I got to the point where I could do about 5-6 lucid dreams per week. My problem now is that I keep having lucid dreams even when I don't want to. It feels like I spend the whole night completely conscious outside of the couple of hours of deep sleep and not giving my mind time to rest making me tired all day. I've turned off all my alarms and I've stopped keeping a journal of my dreams, but I can't keep them out of my mind and when going back to bed I am reminded of them and I'm right back where I left off... I've even tried just pretending like I'm not lucid and letting the dreams run their natural course but it still feels like I've been awake all night. I don't want to completely stop lucid dreaming, I just want to be able to control when it happens and not be stuck in consciousness all night every night. Anyone have any tips I could try to control when I get a lucid dream or should I just cut back on all of the methods I've learned and hope that they will stop with time?

If I was you I would set up a temple and have everyone worship me, cause, holy soykaf, you are the messiah. The dreamer has awakened! In all honestly though, I'd try trying to take an extremely relaxing candle-lit bath, or a float tank session, then have really good sex & you may exhaust all the things that the mind runs to when it produces dreaming scenarios. If you're really stuck there, you have to recognize the purpose of the akashic records, the key is to exhaust the warehouse of stored-up random thoughts and desires that need to play themselves out in the various states. In order for this to stop, you have to become enlightened, sorry. That's better than trying to dull yourself.

> take an extremely relaxing candle-lit bath, or a float tank session, then have really good sex i wish i could do these lol good advice though, maybe i just need to stop letting it get to me and just make the most of it, maybe just going to bed earlier to try and compensate for it. also heard that smoking weed before bed can stop you from dreaming. ive never had this before but maybe its worth a shot... though i started being properly lucid after i started smoking but maybe its a matter of timing and mental state so could be different now. just scared that if i try then i will trap myself even further in this dream cycle... whats the worst that could happen though?

>>7134 I think it is probably about how much you take and how consistently you take it. I never have them totally go away but I rarely use higher doses and the dreams become more muddled and less intense for more days of cannabis use in a row. That said I don't think it is a good idea to try to stop dreaming this way because there's something more restful somehow about waking up after having been sober, in terms of being inspired and motivated and having structured thoughts. You might try attempt becoming exhausted during the day with sustained exercise and abstaining from alcohol/caffeine to try to have more of your sleep be deeper. Also see if you can somehow recuse yourself from and fade into your dreams so they stop being first person, I think maybe lucidity is connected in some way to first-personness of dreams, whenever I have lucid dreams it's often a sort of floating through varied environments where I'm closely aware of having a first person perspective.

>>7131 Bro, how?? Does it really take one full year of work to get lucid dreams? I've gone as far as two weeks, and even though i get the occasional lucid dream on sheer luck, the most I've systemically gotten was an embarrassing dream about my reality check alarm going off in the middle of class and everyone hearing. Ironic, right?

>>7136 trying to fade into my dreams didn't really work, since i was still conscious the whole time and feeling very much lucid >>7143 fixing bad sleep patterns was what i spent most of my time doing and i kept having trouble not waking up when i'd become lucid, i think that was the hardest part, at least for me anyway, a few days ago i brewed up some tea using a strain that I hadn't tried before, ended up being way too strong and had me sleeping for almost 36 hours straight. no dreams that whole time and i haven't had one that i can vividly remember since... so i guess that worked? though i haven't had more than 5 hours sleep since then: been playing catchup all week because of the day that i time skipped. i'm hoping not having dreams at least for the time being will help me forget how to lucid dream, or at least not have them trigger all of the time

>>7157 This is my reminder to come back on after i wake up and make a response. Saw this now in bed Am >>7143

>>7157 >>7165 bro is it really that tiresome having lucid dreams forever? like daily and soykaf? because I have the most vivd dreams ever if I go back to sleep after waking up, right, remembering everything that happened in them, and I even have to finaggle a whole bunch of bullshit into working -- like fighting ghosts while not being afraid of them, and managing telekinesis to lift a travel bus or topple a motorcycle -- and I'm never particularly tired or bored of it when I wake up. Though I suppose that'd be very different if I was lucid the whole time. Bad sleep patterns have made a huge difference for me too. My sleep is far more restful and my dreams more vivid since I quit soykaf, i mean coffee. Quick question, could you not just, conjure a bed in your dream, and go back to bed? That doesn't work? What happens if you try? Like just refuse to participate in the dream and go back to bed? -- Anxious for reply; never met someone who lucid dreams on the daily

>>7166 i cant tell if its the lucid dreams that are making me tired, just bad sleep caused by them (or other factors) or if the fact im trying to resist them makes it worse. Think one of the biggest issues is that I'm lucid but in too fragile of a lucid state that I can too easily wake myself up from even if i just think too hard about the fact that I'm lucid. going to bed in my dreams has almost always woken me up. i lie down and just fall asleep only to wake up in the real world again after maybe 5 minutes i think my plan is to just try and fix my sleep better, maybe adjust my sheets or room temperature, cut down on caffeine etc. i've somewhat started dreaming again but they much more faint in my memory after I wake up and there are far less lucid ones, maybe only one per night. Still just trying to ignore the fact that I'm lucid and let the dream play out though

>>7167 Caffeine's definitely big trouble. How much do you drink? I'd like to say it can creep up on you, big time. I used to drink about 2 or 3 cups of coffee like pic related, always in the morning or early afternoon, never at night. I've had soykaf sleep for 13 years. Anytime I had to wake up for a prior commitment, I didn't get more than 7 hours of sleep a night. It took me either 2 hours to fall asleep, or I would wait for fatigue to build up and only had 6 hours left. Within 3 days of quitting coffee (only ever drank non-espresso) all this went away. I sleep like a baby now and sometimes even just 6 or 7 hours for me is very restful now. This isn't me saying quit caffeine, it's me saying definitely experiment to see if you like it. Go decaf and see if there's a difference or whatnot. Other than that, I'm starting to agree with you. You're kinda fuarrrked, huh? In-dream sleep wakes you up, excitement wakes you up, etc. I know jack soykaf, but it still seems to me like you're on the right track. If your regular dream quality has gone down (poor recall and only 1 per night), sleep quality might be fuarrrked. About instability waking you up: have you had success with meditating / focusing attention mid-dream to stabilize them? This has been pretty helpful at times, but mine seem to be pretty stable by default, although rare.

>>7167 >>7168 Oh shoot i forgot to ask you this: have you had success with Wake Back 2 Bed? Have you ever set alarms to re-awake yourself after going down on the first WB2B round? I appreciate this technique most of all but it's never worked for me. But, I have the most vivid, intense dreams if I sleep for circa 8 hours and then sleep some more. In this time window, what strategy would you suggest applying? And do you have any other advice? Sleep paralysis is extremely rare for me, though, even when I get it. Techniques with that have never worked and i've tried more than a dozen times.

>>7168 >How much do you drink? usually only about one or two cups of green tea a day, most days nothing though. i think im incredibly sensitive to it and i usually make the mistake of drinking it late in the day so could be that. >>7169 honestly i found the best way of wb2b is just using random alarms and then when you wake up, maybe go for a leak, grab a drink or something, and then come back to bed thinking really hard about dreaming until you fall asleep into your dream. mostly just setting random alarms has helped with recall since if i get the timings right then i wake up mid-way through a dream, having it fresh in my mind to think about details and write down. i've only had sleep paralysis the times where i try to keep sleeping when i've already had a good amount of rest. its happened to me enough times that i've just gotten used to it, its confusing at first and a bit scary but if you just relax and keep calm it goes away. Don't try to force yourself awake, always found that to make it worse. paralysis can be fun and you can get some interesting dream encounters when you're partly awake.

>>7171 I feel like i might jinx it, but i've never had any terrors or fear from sleep paralysis. Usually just stop breathing and then beak free. I'll try the random alarm plus intention thing, see if it works. Thanks bro

>>7131 Take it with a drunkkard's grain of hops. My theory Is that you are always dreaming. But this dream Is the one you call reality because you have your consciousness more attuned to It. Now have you tried to try this method? Has you realise you're dreaming. If you have any semblence of control think of a place that's really comfy where your mind willb e able to rest and let yourself sip through the membrane of the dream and let yourself fall Into it till your consciousnes slips away and then , profit.

>>7169 maybe its cause i smoke weed but i've found the wb2b method the only way i can dream now