lucid dreaming

>drink chamomile + lavender tea >meditate >take 10mg of melatonin >look for b12/b6 vitamins, but i'm out >take 1000mg of magnesium instead >take a bath >read >meditate again >get to sleep at like 11:00pm >wake up at 4:00am >meditate and tell myself i am going to lucid dream >sleep until 8:30am >absolutely 0 dreams, lucid or non-lucid what am i doing wrong lainons

>>6213 Thee is no known method that works 100%. Check out this site for tips: https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-lucidity/ (look up "Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams" and other methods) I recommend that you keep on meditating (ideally) daily and start keeping a dream diary. If you want more meditation techniques, check out this: https://archive.vn/lQE5j Going to bed at the same time each day can also help. I don't know if melatonin helps because it may cause you to sleep too deeply? I don't know... I'm not sure. I think for lucid dreams, you don't want to be too tired (but still tired enough, so you fall asleep).

The only technique that ever worked for me, is the habit of doing reality checks. Three specific things that worked excellently for me: the clock, the mirror, and the foreign languages. In my dreams the clock tended to work strangely and wrongly, standing, ticking too fast, too slow, in the wrong direction, asynchronously, or just showing the wrong time. The mirror tended to not work normally, most often i saw myself standing without motion, while i was moving. I needed to make a habit of checking these often during my wake hours. Another habit i made, is taking up a product (food, toilet freshener, whatever with a shop packaging), and start reading the foreing language parts which i don't speak at all. The english part was right in my dreams too, but the slovakian, czech, romanian, and similar languages which i don't speak a word of, turned into scribbles or bullshit babble in other languages i actually speak. These 3 things most often made me realize i am dreaming, and it turned lucid. Unfortunately, all my lucid dreams were short and not so awesome, because when i realized i'm in a dream and i can do whatever i want, i always started to try to rape some women.

>>6213 >melatonin might be that OP. In my experience, melatonin affects dreaming.

I've tried several times. Each time, after about a week, my dreams become very vivid but I can't get passed that, and end up giving up. I'm trying again.

This video is really good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNcHPF_tX3c&ab_channel=JoeScott

>>6216 same, melatonin makes my dreams extremely vivid and memorable.

For me the best way to lucid dream is always just to deviate from my normal sleeping conditions. Sleeping in a different position, in a different place, at a different time. Also, if you're able to fall asleep after, drinking coffee or (caffeinated) tea can help a lot, since they'll make you more awake in your dream therefore making it easier for you to tell that you're dreaming. Reality checks are also always helpful as it can be hard to tell if you're dreaming if you never have before, and IMO just staring at my hand and seeing if I still have 5 fingers works the most often for me.

>>6213 >1000mg of magnesium >10mg of melatonin might be too high of a dose for you. apparently commercially available melatonin can vary wildly compared to the amount on the label, you might be getting way more than you think. also I recently found out strong mugwort tea supposedly helps with lucid dreaming but I can't confirm personally, /drg/ would probably know though >meditation what kind of meditation are you doing? look into yoga nidra/mind awake body asleep techniques if you're not already doing that. I still haven't had my first LD yet either, good luck to you and I hope some of this helps

>>6213 take 50mg of zinc and cut the melanin in half

>10mg of melatonin the proper dose of melatonin is ~0.3mg, and certainly <1mg. try removing the melatonin entirely, it's a weak hypnotic at best. try glycine instead

>>6339 https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2022/7/higher-dose-melatonin

>>6213 Dream quality and duration increases the longer you sleep. That's why the most vivid dreams happen right before you wake up. However we all multiple dreams a night, we just don't remember them. Go to bed a couple hours earlier than your usual bed time. This will increase the chance that you'll remember a dream after you wake up at 4 am. If you're able to effectively recall dream events at this time it's almost certain that you'll lucid dream the next time you fall asleep.

People with autism automatically lucid dream

>>6213 best way to lucid dream is to get used to asking yourself often if you're dreaming, even if it seems obvious you arent, then do a reality check: try to shove a finger through your palm, try to breathe while holding your nose or look at some digital screen look away then look at it again (it will usually be something else on the second look). its just the mentality of questioning you wakefulness and a sureway to prove it that will get you there >>6215 this is pretty bang on

>>6213 You're doing it wrong. First set your intention. What are you gonna do in the lucid dream? Do you want a revelation, a past/future experience, something that can find opportunity for you at the present moment or do you just want to have fun (like in a sexual or wet lucid dream kind), or do you want to access "astral" worlds or connect with other dream ships/hubs? Important prerequisite is to have a dream journal. Right after waking up, try to keep one eye closed, then write down or type your dreams in some note or app. I used to do this on a dumbphone so I could keep my eyes closed and write down the stuff and also read the same notes before going to sleep Hijack your dreams by not just reading but also recalling visualizations in those dreams, you can pick the dreams you liked the most, you can recall as much dreams before sleep or just the ones that resonated with you a lot - an hour before sleep. If you have recurring nightmare or dreams that is even better since it has a high chance of showing up and now you'll have more control (lucidity) over your next dreams when those happen. It's not just being aware, you can do the 3+1 or 4+1 method which is simply dividing your most precise sleep length by that method, so if you can have full length sleep (as in you function normal in a day) in under 5 hours of sleep you then divide it by 3+1 or 4+1. Let us use the 4+1 method, your 5 hour sleep divided by 4+1 is 1 hour, every 60 minutes then is a "sleep cycle", this cycle varies per person, you gotta do the math here or you'll not get anywhere consistent. For 5-hour sleepers, assuming you're fast asleep at say 12AM, set one alarm at 4AM so you could finish 4 of your sleep cycles - waking up and jotting down what you remember that night - if no dream could be remembered do it again tomorrow or start another 5-hour dream cycle after reading your journals. If you didn't feel sleepy after this try the 3+1 instead. If you're successful your final sleep cycle will autocomplete BUT you will be aware that it is a dream, since one sleep cycle usually is the same as the previous dreams (yes our dreams repeat every night!). This is the easiest way to do it. Sleep paralysis may occur though but don't panic, you just have to wake your body up by sheer will. I think this method is not exactly a "lucid dream" but more of an astral projection... Now for the most important part, the exploration. Explore the lucid state (or astral state?). You can in your little dark lucid room conjure anything that you would sense. Touch, smell, visual. You can even have thoughts which I think has extreme clarity than our waking thoughts so use it wisely according to intent. But if you wanna do the extreme just try to zoom out of your little lucid room and explore further (wink wink). You can lucid dream after two or three attempts or if lucky you can do it just once as long as you follow the instructions above. Some "monks" try to do this and fail, some need 'le adrenochrome' or whatever cryptic stuff or medication/drugs/zinc, I think that's just cope unless it's for prolonging the projection. Here's a breakdown: >intent >journal >hijack >explore

>>6213 This method may work for you in inducing dreams consistently, which is a step towards lucid dreaming. Go to sleep, but set alarms like two/three hours before you're supposed to wake up. Wake up, let yourself fall back to sleep. When I do this, I almost always have dreams, sometimes multiple, in that time. I don't aim for lucidity though. I just let them happen. In fact, I had a period where I dreamed every night for a week. It was annoying me because it felt like I was just awake all the time.

>>6213 >>6214 yes, keeping a diary helps, just short key words about your dream on a note on your phone is enough but for me what helps the most is counting, in a dream, counting doesnt make sense. So if you make it a habit to count your own fingers of one hand a few times a day, eventually you'll do it in a dream as well and you'll count 4 fingers while you see 5, or see 5 and count 7, something like that. The hard part is to stay dreaming, the first few times the realization will wake you up Also don't count your fingers when you're doing nothing. No one is dreaming about sitting in a chair in front of your pc. You do it during a conversation with someone, while you're driving, while you're doing something in the supermarket etc

How do I start lucid dreaming? I’ve tried everything—well half tried—but still. I have gotten close. I remember one time I made it, but chickened out and woke back up. In that dream, I realized I was dreaming by noticing how the terrain changed every time I looked at it again. Should I try that same route? As in trying to question stuff irl so next time I’m dreaming I automatically look back or pay more attention to something and realize something is off? I’ve tried MILD and it worked (what I just described) but it never works now. Also, every time I try WILD I just mess up and end up drifting back to sleep and I can’t psychically maintain a dream journal because I’m too lazy. So, any advice? Specific things I should try? Etc.

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