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Hat Man

Sneed · 2022-04-22 08:15
Why the fuarrrk people see this shadow during sleep paralysis?
Bobby Newmark · 2022-04-22 09:08
People see it using stupid deliriants like benadryl and DXM as well. Given the nature of it I'd guess it's a subliminal fear related to sleeping in a safe place. Most people do not like to be watched while they sleep, a manifestation of the inherent vulnerability; Animals sleep in dens with their backs to walls, and only feel appropriate doing so in that context. Birds sleep in trees and only feel comfortable in that context. The specific manifestation is of imagining a potential predation event, and imagining is an important thing to note here. Because imagining while under the effects of deliriants such as sleepy brain chemicals or otherwise, you're dreaming of vulnerability to humans main predator: Humans. Understand that our brains are design to survive: In any animal, a brain which lies to it to gain an edge still has an edge over others. Such as arachnophobia, or as a meme an elephant being afraid of a mouse. That fear isn't substantial, it's an illusion, a genetically driven hallucination derived from evolved personality traits that gave us an edge. But/and when you tell a schizophrenic their brain is lying to them they take it as a license to spout their drivel.
Sneed · 2022-04-22 10:59
>>5365 But why do people see the same thing? It's in every fuarrrking culture from korea Joseung Saja to norse Odin. Also schizos think detectives are following and it looks like one i have made the connection to delirants and choline, but stories also show it appears near death experiences as if homeostasis stoping due to incoming death makes this "vision" appear. There is something more than muh predator tough it does cause a feeling of dread.
Dr. X · 2022-04-22 16:57
>>5366 I've been close to dying. Allergic reaction, dust on a construction yard, and heavy smoking. I wandered off to be alone, much like finding a place to sleep. Your question is like asking "why is more then one person afraid of spiders?" Because we're dealing with subliminal feedback, there's no way I can just point to answer your question. I can however try to help you to understand the most logical point of view. This is an album cover, and a common vision seen on different psychedelics around the world, typically described as a polychromatic cathedral of infinite faces as the collums. Mind you, it is an internal vision, not an external hallucination, but just the same it's experienced in multiple settings, cultures, and with variant chemicals as the psychedelic precursor. Assuming anything outside of the box, religious, profound, or provocative, is seeking fantasy instead of being realistic. I will explain; All humans have a tendency to recognize other human faces(and bodies), this is a very social thing. In our recognition thereof, naturally and sober, is pareidolia, like seeing a face on a tree or even just Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!. That is not a face. There is nothing about that that looks like a face. But our internal capacity to recognize facial features(or danger) is so profoundly developed that it can be loosely termed as a hallucination; It most certainly is your brain adapting the information, but it is not a hallucination purely because we consider it "working as intended." That, however, means that it is still your brain "adapting information" otherwise known as a lie. Or a skew. Or an alteration. Regardless of what word it takes to make us feel comfortable with it, the fact is that our brains capability and tendency to recognize patterns is useful, but objectively irrelevant when considering things from a relative standpoint; A camera views information entirely objectively. Humans view information exclusively through a filter. That's fine, but to assess objective information, it's something we all need to accept: Our brain is lying to us. As for my example? That's optical neurons misfiring, feeding back at latency, and substantially increased pareidolia causing some of our most basic visual filters(brain processing, not eyes) to come forefront into play. The feedback and latency causes a reciprocation of the image resulting in a feeling of infinity, and the "faces" are always at the occular boundaries i.e. in the middle, where brain processing merges images, and at the outsides, where brain processing is most sensitive to illusion. And the image is always circular because eyeballs, man.
Technician · 2022-04-22 19:26
never seen it t. been asleep & paralyzed several times a week for years
Sneed · 2022-04-23 03:39
>>5367 Im going to be honest when i saw it 2 years ago the experience was not just paredolia like. I knew something was looking at me before even noticing it also once i saw the feeling of dread can't even be described. I tough it may be an archetype of danger but still i can't get why old hag, hat man and other "archetypes" are universal to all cultures. Why not as danger archetype the gangster of next street appearing or a fuarrrking zombie, why a hat man or an old hag?
Cowboy · 2022-04-24 11:14
>>5363 My parents told me, that when I was very little, one night I couldn't sleep because in my words "there was a man in a hat and a trench coat on my balcony, watching me". They didn't see anyone, and not knowing what to do, just comforted me to sleep. There is no possibility any person would be on that balcony. And there is no reason for why my parents would make this story up.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2022-04-26 09:41
>>5363 I also saw "him" once during sleep paralysis. I just thought I was hallucinating "him" because of my black bath robe that was hanging on my door. Though I can't remember him wearing a hat. Wasn't aware that "he" is a common occurrence in that state and this reminds me of the short story "The Gernsback Continuum", in which a photographer sees stuff (though while being awake) related to his current art project and someone else describes it as "semiotic ghost": >“If you want a classier explanation, I’d say you saw a semiotic ghost. All these contactée stories, for instance, are framed in a kind of sci-fi imagery that permeates our culture. I could buy aliens, but not aliens that look like Fifties’ comic art. They’re semiotic phantoms, bits of deep cultural imagery that have split off and taken on a life of their own, like the Jules Verne airships that those old Kansas farmers were always seeing. But you saw a different kind of ghost, that’s all. That plane was part of the mass unconscious, once. You picked up on that, somehow. The important thing is not to worry about it.” https://web.archive.org/web/20070217183337/http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1988/1/1988_1_34.shtml
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2022-04-27 10:52
The Shadows... How much I know them? Schizophenic here, by the way. I think you might meet this guy- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep_1k-lOto8 Poor old detective from imperial hive world Lapis Theta, in perpetuum inquisitio, who never realised he got thrown out of his world? To be honest, I don't think anyone can say you what are beings called Shadow People, very often appearing in strong drug induced delirium (like after black henbane) or psychotic states; or in between waking and sleeping. This is a long topic and I think everyone who had the opportunity to contact them should investigate and give a report. My friends from the mental hospital even managed to talk to them, but I will not repeat what they found out (what appeared behind the hospital walls should stay behind them) - I think every person is able to find it themself, yet remember not to end up with a mental illness, like I had, as a result.
Emmanuel · 2022-04-27 10:55
>>5383 They don't always wear a hat, it's strongly dependent.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2023-01-05 22:06
>called hatman >but doesnt always wear a hat uhm. the hat is like basically the only distinct feature of this guy.
Dujour · 2023-01-24 21:36
>>5363 I was comforted when I saw him and going towards him got me out of my sleep paralysis.
Just another Random Lainon · 2023-01-25 03:20
My only experience with a shadow figure was during sleep paralysis. The second I spotted something it quickly approached me from where my door is to stand right next to my bed, looking over me. At first I thought it was someone I knew, only to realise in a second that there should be no one else in my room. Has anyone else experienced it move?
Dox · 2023-01-25 12:25
I just happened to come across this article today, perhaps its insightful. I have no personal encounters or know anyone who did have them https://crypticchroniclespodcast.com/entity-of-the-week-the-hat-man/
Cutter · 2023-01-28 07:49
That looks like me when I go out at night, lol. Fedora and a scarf is good for keeping warm during the winter
Zero Cool · 2023-01-30 09:47
My proverbial "sleep paralysis demon" was always the Cheese Heads mascot. fuarrrk if I know why, but ever since I was a kid and he showed up in a few nightmares, that mascot has been the bane of my existence.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2023-02-18 20:03
>>5365 dxm is a dissociative not a deliriant. most people don't see hallucinations on it unless they shut their eyes.
Roy Batty · 2023-02-24 03:22
>>6078 Well, that's mostly true for the third plateau and below.