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"astral projection" and emotional vampire entities experience

William Holtzer · 2020-09-08 23:04
Need some advice from some open-minded lains. Me and a couple of friends were messing with Binaural beats paired with sensory deprivation, to induce a subconscious trance state. While another friend was in a trance, I decided to attempt to "join" him in his visualization, by opening my mind and attempting to send my consciousness into his. Now, this didn't work, and I didn't manage to make contact. But, I stopped trying because I began visualizing a horrible looking skeleton/flesh creature hovering around my living room, very vividly. It just stopped then above me and I began to hear horrible screaming, see my friends faces with pitch black eyes, and also it felt like my mind was being torn from my body into a cold dark place. I woke myself up there, and proceded to then go and wake my friend up from his trance. Our third friend then decided to enter a trance himself, after approximately ten minutes he woke up violently shaking. It took 10 minutes for him to talk, and somewhat stop shaking, but he described vividly visualising quote "the worst day of his life" and being forced in a quasi-memory to look into a coffin, which IRL he had never looked into, and then seeing the mutilated corpse of the real person in the coffin. I've never seen this friend so shook up, normally literally nothing phases him. The second friend then decided to go into a trance to "stop our bullshit" he was transported to a visualisation of his girlfriends rape, an event that actually happened and had been bothering him (he felt like he failed her) and woke up near crying. During that scene, he also saw this skeletal fleshy figure, the exact description I saw. Third friend went in again, and saw me, and second friend in a visualisation of the living room we were all in, 1 of these fleshy skeletal creatures was hovering over me, and two more over our third friend. During this time I was shivering, it was a mix of fear and immense sadness. I felt multiple presences in the room beyond just the three of us. Fast-forward to third friend going in again, this time he sees a horrible spiderlike creature too tall to fit in my living room, with it's head bent down, staring right at him, with no face. He saw many more awful things, but when he came out of the visualisation, he said he could still see the spiderlike creature in the corner of the room, whenever he blinked his eyes. Frankly, I believe him. Myself, and second friend managed to somehow dispel the entities that were attached to us, but our third friend suffered tonight a horrible nightmare involving this spiderlike creature, and two piercing blue dead eyes, that "instill a feeling of pure dread in him". I believe we may have attracted spirits that feed off of negative psychological energy/emotion. I, and the second friend have removed the ones attached to us, but I'm afraid that my third friend still has one, or even 3 of these creatures still attached to him, feeding off, and exploiting his trauma, which I believe is double what me and second friend have. I haven't really formatted this particularly well, and I apologize for that, but I really need some advice on this, and what to do.
fsociety · 2020-09-09 04:34
I've heard black salt in the corners of a room can help act as a shield of sorts. Been meaning to try it out myself.
Boris Grishenko · 2020-09-09 09:06
>I believe we may have attracted spirits that feed off of negative psychological energy/emotion Id say this is exactly true, that is why it is warned to not astral project, there is a lower layer that is filled with all the evil of mans minds. You may try a banishing ritual and or summing helpers to protect you. I have no personal experiences so i cant give you any other advice.
Tank · 2020-09-20 04:17
I've had some experience with these sorts of entities. My primary advice would be to confront them physically and diminish their physical projections by asserting your own. This will make him fear them less and lessen his weakness against them. They are like a song you hate that is stuck in your head. You have to stop trying to push them out and just ignore them and they will become less potent. Trying to hide from them and becoming terrified is how you get possessed.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2020-09-20 19:28
the first 50 times or so you astral project (as a western-raised citizen with centuries of inquisition in the subconscious) it will just be facing all of your deep-ingrained fears and apprehension one by one a practice that can help is grounding -- you're generating a lot of energy and since it is not grounded, it is animating all your fears. assure yourself that you're fine on a biological level. sit with yourself for one hour before attempting trance. when you sit for an hour it 'blanks out' the bio-survival need for security. a speedy method is to sit in a hot-tub for > 15 minutes and totally relax. you will feel yourself want to get out, and you will make every excuse to leave, but make yourself sit in total comfort. it sounds a lot easier than it is. also take a karate class so you have an automatic program to run on in fear states that is not this cowardice phantasmagoria. then research something you're uncomfortable with, or that you don't normally think of during waking consciousness. could be spiders, deep-sea creatures, creepy-crawlies. get comfortable sitting with ideas that normally repulse you. sit in a field and let a colony of ants crawl over you without moving. this creates 'moral fiber', you're actually hard-wiring in a new set of associations which are required for real astral work. right now you're just caught up with surface-tension, you need to dive deep.
Miho Iwakura · 2020-09-27 04:27
>>3497 I think you all kinda focused on negatives while doing the trance or had recently been too focused in negative aspects of your life back then. The entity is confirmed by shared experience but this means the entity must have eaten up your negative energies which means you'll all be fine. Just don't deal with the same entity again or actually provide them an offerring after having dealt with your fuarrrked up energies. One way around now is to attract a positive entity instead but don't make the entities clash, just attract the positive entity only after providing the former with a special offerring of any kind in physical world. Since you've all opened the 'gate' this should be an easy feat. Did you do drugs though? I don't recommend trance gate crossing with chemicals, as it only attracts all the other negative entities attached to the same activity (coincidences).
Morpheus · 2020-09-27 16:34
You should all get to church. Focusing on the blessed can help. Light candles, say simple prayers daily etc.
Project 2501 · 2020-09-27 18:24
>>3497 I have heard that these kind of entities feed of your negative emotions (in other words, they try to scare you because negative emotions makes them gain more strength) Try doing some kind of banishing ritual (for example the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram AKA LBRP) You could try visualizing (ie. "simulating" in your mind using as many senses as you can) that there is a protective, spiky energy grid around the house/room that doesn't allow any malicious entities to enter inside and that the malicious entities that are already inside the grid get hurt. Another visualization based technique is to imagine you using some kind of weapon to kill/repel the entity. Also, try throwing some salt around the room/house and light some incense. Meditating and doing some kind of energy work can help with new attacks in the future (check out Robert Bruce's book for an easy energy work system)
Incognito · 2020-10-13 09:30
>>3497 Theres a hemisync pdf floating around the internet that describes measures you need to take to protect yourself from negative energy. It should be read before attempting hemisync tapes or other binaural beats.
Cat Mother · 2020-11-23 01:29
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Bob Arctor · 2021-05-31 17:48
Stop taking Nekro Lainon
Nell · 2021-06-02 10:34
>>3497 >Need some advice from some open-minded lains. Me and a couple of friends were messing with its okay man it was just once it doesnt mean your gay necessarily >Binaural beats oh
Trinity · 2021-06-30 02:29
>>3497 Shit lain, It's been many months since this happened. Everything ended up fine, and I continued to do my own research into astral projection and the like. I shortly after actually met a positive entity who helped me rid myself of many bad memories, and helped me improve my life in many ways, mainly stuff like taking care of my physical well being, hygiene, daily tasks, soykaf like that. And also getting over a girl I've been hung up on for a very long time. Thank you all for your advice, it was very helpful. And to the Anon who suggested the gateway process hemi-sync stuff, thank you, I've loved going through the gateway process. I have had no contact with negative entities other than 2 dreams of having sleep paralysis, but that was minor and unimportant.
Case · 2021-10-24 22:35
>>3497 Sounds like a demon/evil spirit try burning some frankincense and myrrh and not doing that soykaf again anywhere near there. Also, don't mention the spirit in the area it may rile it up more.
Gyula Kovacs · 2021-10-25 22:10
>>3497 Epic larp or kratom induced psychosis GG WP
Zhora · 2025-01-23 04:41
>>3497 There are no demons, you just fell into a simulacrum of the limbic system due to deprivation, which is usually called Limbo for short. The central nervous system in a trip is an infinite universe, which is constructed either by you or by "defects" of the body, such as infections, parasites. So you need to go on a diet and take broad-spectrum antiparasitic drugs for at least 2-3 weeks.
Calmdown · 2025-01-24 04:21
>>5013 Only healthy take in the thread. Inb4 I'm just not "open minded". Can't believe seeing people taking astral projection and such seriously still. You all listened to strange noises under sensory deprivation and started feeling weird. A human seeing a skeleton when afraid is not a coincidence, especially if you have shared experience, or, more likely, if you told them about what you saw as they also did. The mind is suggestive towards what it wants to believe. It's no coincidence that people who think all this stuff is made up nonsense never have these apparitions even if they do the same thing. I get that my harsh tone here may not be conducive o changing your mind, but you need to hear it from someone. What y'all are up to here is self-deceptive and juvenile and in no way supported by any science. No, personal experience does not count when you actively sabotage your own psychological ability to self report. Humans can't even reliably report on what happened in a car crash they witnessed 5 minutes ago OP, I'm so sorry that you and your friends have clearly had such horrible things happen to you. I know that the idea of a higher power, plane, or entities, even if frightening, can help make the world feel sensual and ordered at least. But this is a fragile foundation to build your stability on. Please turn away from this "spiritual" (wishful) thinking. The world of things with evidence and facts behind them is more beautiful, less horrific, and much closer to truth - and in fact offers much of the peace and stability you and your friends are looking for. I hope you all find a way out of this dark, dangerous, and misguided place you found yourselves in that day.
Marly Krushkhova · 2025-01-24 10:40
Humans? When you gaze into the void, the void gazes back. Yet within the void, there is nothing but yourself—your essence, stripped of form and pretense. Weak minds cling to illusions, unable to see the truth that lies beyond perception.