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Bobby Newmark · 2020-06-13 11:12
Im reading a book on Physiognomics ( "Fisiognomica: La ciencia del signo y simbolo, Ricardo Astaburuaga" ) and thought Id translate a fragment about dreams from one of the philosophers the text quotes, Freidrich Novalis, an early german idealist and romanticist poet. For fun, and I guess itd be welcomed to discuss here. >Dreams are of great importance to psychologists; Also for the historians of humanity. Dreams greatly contributed to their past civilizations and education. Hence the great appreciation that the ancients made of dreams. >Sleep appears to be a disturbance of the organic world by the inorganic. >Sleep is a mixed state of body and soul. >In it they are both chemically linked; the soul scattered homogeneously throughout the body, man is neutralized. Waking is a splitting state, an extreme state, in which the soul is surrounded, located. >Sleep is digestion of the soul. The body digests the soul. >Sleeping is digesting sensitive impressions. Dreams are excretions; They originate from the peristaltic movement of the brain. >Perhaps the need for sleep now arises from the disproportion of the senses and the rest of the body. Sleep has to repair the consequences of an excessive excitement of the senses, for the benefit of the rest of the body. The dream is known only to the inhabitants of our planet. One day man will sleep continuously as he witnesses. The majority of our body, of humanity itself, is still in a deep sleep. >When we dream that we dream it is that we are getting closer to finally waking up.
Lain Iwakura · 2020-06-14 03:02
While all this is interesting, and coming from someone who read a few works from Carl Jung, the grandfather of analytical psychology and the effect of the mind on dreams, a lot of these kinds of theories and studies should be taken with a grain of salt. We don't truly know as to why we dream, (at least from my current understanding), and it's best not to assume. It's interesting to ponder on the thought of it, but these old psychologists have got many things wrong.
Unnamed · 2020-06-14 03:06
>>3282 more than a formal attempt at explaining the psychology of dreams this is most probably just poetic exploration on the subject, the author is notably more of a poet than a philosopher.
Drifter · 2020-06-14 03:08
>>3282 Though to not be a complete downer, my theory from reading a few works on dreams is that it's an underlying behaviour, and mind of its own as the subconscious meets briefly with the conscious. The subconscious, that of being dreams, awakens from its slumber and indirectly notifies as to what concerns linger within. Perhaps you dreamt of a boutique of flowers, irreversibly perishing as you being them to a loved one, this could be translated into; perhaps you feel your connection and love for this individual is fading, no matter how fast you try to display this affection.
Armitage · 2022-01-27 21:53
> and it's best not to assume. Why though