Weird Dream

>Guy I know that fuarrrked me over a long time ago sees me walking to the bathroom >Gets all chummy saying how it must be hard to be gay in my part of the world >I say I'm not gay, enter the restroom >He keeps saying "I know it must be really difficult. I can sympathize" or something to that effect. >I say "look dude, I'm not gay" and walk towards a urinal >As soon as I turn my back towards him, I feel a sudden jolt around my neck like he is assaulting me and going to rape me I jolted out of a deep sleep and sat up in my bed. I think I had a bad night terror. I thought I would share that with you. I could not go back to sleep even though it was early in the morning.

It seems that OP is gay

>>1594 Hey OP, it's cool, we don't judge here. If you want to get gay raped in a bathroom stall more power to you.

Dreams while sleeping is just a live feed from your brainbox's /dev/random/ So i'd better not judge so strict

Sodomy dreams. Maybe you're a sodomite?

I've had stranger dreams. Since you're not gay, perhaps this is just a night terror about the prevalence of homosexuality in modern society and also how you don't want to get raped. Just be careful in bathrooms, I suppose. You already should be.

I had a similar nightmare back when I had a gay roommate, except I didn't jolt awake, it was horrible

OP do you get off to weird stuff like that? It is also suspiciously similar to that one scene in 13 reasons why minus the mop, have you been watching it?

>>2918 lol honestly glad it has this effect on you. That's pretty hilarious OP: dreams don't really have any deeper meaning. They're just random storms in the brain to keep your head from dropping below optimal body temperature while you're sleeping and activity is otherwise low. It's like other intrusive thoughts; they don't reveal anything about you or the world, there's just a part of your brain tasked with creating basically random responses to stimulus. But it's not in control in any way whatsoever. Don't worry about it too much.

>>2913 >>2932 Basically what that guy up top said

Maybe your dream is actually about an intuition that the other guy fuarrrked you over because he wanted to literally fuarrrk you and didn't know how to express it? The subtext of his words/behaviors there seems to be a "why can't you take a hint you sexy idiot" sort of thing. Or maybe the same theme as that, but not even actually about sex, just using sexuality as a more straightforward metaphor for platonic feelings, trying to understand his actions somehow.

>>2934 Seriously, it's a fool's errand to try and interpret dreams and the "unconscious." It's good fun and all. But it's basically like reading tea leaves or chicken entrails. It's all mysticism and pop psychology and pseudoscience. But if you want to use it like Tarot cards and just make use of random variance to spur your own thoughtfulness and creativity, it's definitely good for that. Idk about rape dreams though.

>>2935 Are you suggesting the unconscious isn't even a real thing? Honestly I think the idea that the set of comprehensible concepts that appear to compose the conscious mind are a complete and accurate picture, is a little ridiculous. Our brains evolved piece by piece based on what worked in the moment into a collection of tens of billions of cells sending chemicals and electrical signals between them. We are spaghetti code, a complex chaos that pretends at simple order only so far as it must do so to exist. So yeah, a codified approach to dream interpretation that aspires to be a 'science' probably cannot be rational. But what you seem to be saying is that there is a firm dividing barrier between the structures of your waking mind and the structures of your dreams, and that's definitely wrong. If you put more effort into noticing and remembering the emotions and logic of your dreams, you can see clear connections to waking thoughts and feelings. And it makes sense that such connections would exist, because we know that REM sleep plays a critical role in things like learning and skill development. Probably what I'm suggesting is completely off and has nothing to do with what was really going on in OP's dream, I have no way of knowing. But if an idea about a dream triggers a concept or feeling you were already considering on some level, that's something real. It doesn't have to be information with a framework of external context and ideas in order to be a genuine connection to a structure in your mind, it doesn't have to be totally objective to be something you can use. Anything that happens in your mind is fair game to observe and interact with, and dreams can be a way to get at stuff that's otherwise hard to get a handle on.

>>2935 >fool's errand to try and interpret dreams and the "unconscious." This. The prevailing theory in psychology is that random firing in the brain is then interpreted by the brain due to a lack of stimulus. You see things pertaining to your surroundings and context due to these things being at the fore of your conscious experience (and unconscious). The bizarre occurrences are due to the prefrontal cortex being effectively "switched off", so you're uncritical of the ongoings of those events. >>2936 >isn't even a real thing I believe the lain was saying it in terms of being irrelevant. The unconscious affects our lives in weird ways, but to claim it is articulate and possible to articulate is severely optimistic.

>>2932 Imagine being this unaware of Freud, Jung and psychology in general

>>2936 It's a real thing, but ascribing meaning to its output is about the same as doing a tarot reading. Just because it exists doesn't mean it's deeply meaningful. You're leaping over a lot of middle ground. The brain is first and foremost an organ to discern meaning in patterns. It absolutely will create a narrative around random signals, be it from external stimulus (even when conscious) or internal noise. That's not ridiculous, that's literally what brains are best at doing. The spaghetti code and chaotic connections are a big part of why we get such complex pareidolia out of random nonsense. It's also why we have to watch out for bias while exploring science and carefully control our experiments. It's definitely far more realistic than dreams revealing deep truths about yourself and the universe like some kind of vague and esoteric inner psychotherapist. That's the absurd idea here. There's actually still quite a bit of uncertainty as to whether REM sleep plays a critical role in learning or consolidation of short-term memories. That's mostly pop psychology at this point. Your post-hoc conscious interpretation of dreams probably does reveal something about your psychology, I guess that's a valid point—but probably no more so than your subjective interpretation of any events or knowledge. >>2938 Imagine being unaware that Freud and Jung were pre-scientific psychologists, that their work was important for formalizing the field but is largely discredited and studied really just for historical context. If you were even a little aware of the current field of psychology you'd know that these early 20th century figures were not relevant for their actual theories and didn't do any formal or rigorous study at all. They did prodigious amounts of cocaine and made up just-so stories and reasonings by analogy and basically used classical methods of ruminating on what they think should make sense and saying "thus it is so." That's not science. Psychologists today know perfectly well that's not real. Those figures are very popular among armchair psychologists, however.

>>2938 Imagine being this unaware of modern scientific consensus. This. >The prevailing theory in psychology is that random firing in the brain is then interpreted by the brain due to a lack of stimulus. You see things pertaining to your surroundings and context due to these things being at the fore of your conscious experience (and unconscious). The bizarre occurrences are due to the prefrontal cortex being effectively "switched off", so you're uncritical of the ongoings of those events.

>>2939 >You're leaping over a lot of middle ground It only seems like that because you're making assumptions about what I'm saying. Not at all claiming anything about 'deep truths about yourself and the universe'. Let me break this down so it's less ambiguous: 1. A dream can be about something without your being aware. By 'about' I'm not saying deeper meaning or comprehensive explanation, I'm saying a thing the dream happened to feature. Here's an example. I once had a dream in which I was tinkering with a machine using a dry strand of spaghetti. I worried about the fragility of the spaghetti, and that I did not understand the machine or how it was meant to be used, but kept going anyway because I believed I could accomplish my goal this way with the least effort. This dream was 'about' my work. I KNOW that it was about my work, because immediately after waking I took time to recall various features of the dream, and they balanced more towards abstract concepts and emotions than visual and tactile sensations. The concepts, the emotional signature of my dream, was a direct match with those same things experienced with my work while awake, in the same way the spaghetti was a direct match with actual spaghetti. But even if I had jumped awake and only managed to remember the basic literal events of the dream, I would have been able to make a very educated guess that those more ephemeral elements of the dream had been present. This is because I'm familiar with myself, what I am preoccupied with, and the kinds of associations I tend to make. The literal elements of the dream were a sensible analogy that naturally worked with the actual meat of it, and this is often the case for me. That's not to say that everyone would make the same sorts of analogies, or even necessarily any, but maybe they could still, being familiar with themselves, find ways to link easy to remember things with hard to remember things. 2. Hard to remember aspects of dreams are nice to know. Maybe you want to think of your dreams as being separate from yourself, but they obviously aren't. Your brain is doing this stuff. You are indistinguishable from your brain. Self awareness is generally useful, even the kind that is intuitive or otherwise cannot be precise or objective. If dreams were the result of some kind of neuron white noise generator or otherwise simple, impersonal mechanical process, maybe you could argue some kind of conceptual separation, but there's no evidence of that, and it doesn't make sense that it would be true. If complex improvements weren't being performed on our brains and minds while we sleep, we would have evolved to sleep less. Again, there is plenty of sound research connecting sleep and learning, see the basis for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_and_learning.

>>1594 That's a cool ass picture where'd you get it from?

>bought a house >third night sleeping in it >have a dream where I begin levitating above my bed >see figure standing by my door from the moonlight in my room >start floating towards the floor face down by my bed >have another figure crawl out from under my and attempt to molest me while I'm down on the floor >remember having the feelong I can over power whatever is on top of me >proceed to mount ghost >I start hovering back to my bed and fall into it >wake up as I face plant my pillow Did I rape a ghost?