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Sleep Paralysis

Chani · 2017-04-23 11:39
Anyone ever experience this? Do you find it to be annoying/negative or interesting? I get it a lot now, i used to like it but now it gets annoying. It is just really uncomfortable, you need to slowly "unstick" yourself and can only move in small motions at a time. when you get an arm partly unstuck you focus on your leg then your arm gets stuck again. Then sometimes i give up because it is too uncomfortable and fall back to sleep. Basically 90% of the time i then have a dream that i am in sleep paralysis, finally get unstuck and roll off of the bed, then wake up from that dream in REAL sleep paralysis. This loop can go on for like 10 or more cycles sometimes, it only takes like a minute per though. Eventually you just "pop it" and your body can instantly move as normal. Take this chance to leave the bed, don't even think about getting 15 more minutes of sleep or you will be back in a time loop. Here are some tips: >Loud alarm clock >Sleep with a partner >Blink while trying to un-stick yourself >Bite lip >Make enough noise from your mouth so somebody can hear you and shake you (tough to do)
Random · 2017-04-23 15:24
In many games when you get stoneturned/ensnared protagonist wiggles torso and breaks free. Unconsciously, I do the same - shake, or rather try to, torso and shoulders from side to side. It takes around 6-7 shakes to get it off, after that I wake up. Since sleep paralysis and most of nightmare conditions happen because of lack of oxygen, stimulating ribcage for better ventilation is actually a good idea. Lack of oxygen can be caused by a bad posture. For example, when I lay hands on my chest, it obstructs breathing and after a long sleep I get nightmares. If you get it often, sleep in different pose, making sure nothing is pressing on shoulders or ribcage and neck is not bent in a weird way.
Los Ingobernables · 2017-04-23 15:36
Yeah, I've been getting it on and off for years. I just try to relax and focus on moving my fingers when it happens. Even after having it for years and knowing what to expect the hallucinations I get when i have it still creep me out for a bit so I just try to ignore them and focus on moving my fingers. Usually once I can get my fingers wiggling everything else kinda snaps back into being under my control again.
Lain Iwakura · 2017-04-23 15:52
I get it every time I get a nightmare. And I wake up in panic, and start screaming louder and louder, and as I scream the body starts moving. Don't mind it tho, it brings some diversity into my routine life.
Ein · 2017-04-23 16:18
>Here are some tips: >Sleep with a partner How do I acheive this?
Ivan Petrov · 2017-04-23 20:15
>>66 >"hey I usually get sleep paralysis and hallucinations when I wake up, it really creeps me out as I feel that the devilish creatures that come from my dreams are coming to kill me. Wanna sleep together so when I start screaming in fear you can help me?"
Cutter · 2017-04-23 20:16
>>67 OK that is the worst pick up line I've ever heard.
Terzibashjian · 2017-04-23 20:37
>>66 >>67 Basically what i want to say to a woman. If it gets to that point i will hire hookers to actually sleep with me, not to have the sex. Anyone else get caught in a "loop" like i do sometimes? It is like kicking dead whales down the beach.
Y.T · 2017-04-23 20:46
>>69 > girl, I've had some kinky tricks pick me up before and even some dudes who just wanted to cuddle and cry on me but this guy last night? Didn't want sex or nuthin'. He just lay there asleep and every now and then would start screaming. The sheets were soaked with sweat by morning. I didn't sleep a wink but he paid well for it.
Apoc · 2017-04-23 23:43
>>60 This happens to me a lot but I'm usually way too sleep deprived to care enough. I just let it happen and then go back to sleep.
Cypher · 2017-04-24 10:57
Happens to me a few times a year I would say, sometimes more often. I hate it when it happens, its terrifying. I wake up and often I vomit and then I'm too scared to go back to sleep. The most frustrating thing is no one else understands how bad it is unless they've been through it themselves. It's more than a 'bad dream' you feel like you are dying. I make sure not to fall asleep in the 'sarcophagus' position these days in an attempt to reduce it. Interesting however I rarely (if ever) have supernatural hallucinations. Often they're people I know, I'm screaming at them to help me but no sound or air comes out of my mouth and they just sit still in the corner of the room.
Koos van der Merwe · 2017-04-25 20:59
Yes, you just have to know that it's a dream and chill out. The scary stuff will cease (Shadowman started giving me a back massage once) and you'll fall asleep again.
Lady Jessica · 2017-04-27 10:22
>>66 -go to school and try to understand peoples behaviour by spending time with them. This is called "relating to people" Sometimes its not talking, but doing stuff together, this brings new offers. -practice a non-solitaire sport. -play music -go to uni -enroll in a hobbie club, reading, boardgames, the 3$ beer pub, w/e. Remember its not about the talking, its about doing. You dont make friends talking, least a gf. -drink a lot of water, and try to do some exercise: not for being fit, just for the endorphines and other chemical stuff thats good for the brainy. -listen to new music and read new books. Loving yourself is necessary. -pay an escort. They are cheap in vietnam
Void · 2017-04-27 13:12
>>109 that sounds like a lot of work. I think I'll just stay in bed.
Anamika · 2017-05-04 22:16
>>111 >get sleep paralysis >cycle repeats
Motoko Kusanagi · 2017-07-09 03:10
>>60 The scariest part about it to me is that I can't make a noise even though Im Screaming
Sipho Nkosi · 2017-07-09 03:26
>>361
Joey · 2017-08-22 21:59
I've only ever experienced sleep paralysis once, when I was very young (willing to guess around 4 or 5 years old). Nothing particularly spooky happened other than the immense fear I experienced due to the blackness that welcomed me due to the inability to open my eyes as well as move. Not being able to see was the scariest thing. It took me a few months until I could sleep again with the lights off + door closed.
Ivan Petrov · 2017-08-29 11:57
>>60 I get sleep paralysis too. It feels as if a sound is being constantly repeated into my ears for a few minutes. It is also usually accompanied by a feeling of shaking.
Agent Jones · 2017-08-29 16:25
I have it probably once every few months, but it's a lot more common in the summer when I don't have a good sleep schedule. Only hallucinated once, but that's more because I sleep on my stomach. Even though that's not fun, it's ten times better than seeing a shadow of something flailing outside my window on the door. It's a helluva lot easier to snap out of it once I realize what's going on, though. First time it happened it felt like it took a few minutes to start moving again and I didn't sleep for a few hours afterwards, but now it just takes five-ten seconds and I'm usually asleep within the hour. On the other hand I apparently am locked down way more than you guys- I can't consciously blink, let alone bite my lip or scream.
Meddler · 2017-08-29 16:51
>>109 I made a joke post off the cuff months ago and come back to find Chad here has written a dissertation on how to win friends and score bitchz.
Koos van der Merwe · 2017-09-03 05:32
I did. That's it really.
Nobody important · 2017-09-06 14:42
Yup, it's annoying but in my case, I'm generally able to "unstick" myself in less than 2 minutes. I did get stuck for 5 minutes once though. I just try my best at moving and all of a sudden, my body will spasm and then I'm able to move again.
Shogun · 2017-09-10 19:37
3rd time having sleep paralysis, during the day i was very tired, and have listened to music and sound all day, when i got to sleep, first i was traveling in a car, and then suddenly my head had that feeling of spinning, like a turbine, the sound was the same, and then i woke up, i couldn't move, this last about 3 minutes, then i could move my finger.
Agent Richard Gill · 2017-09-10 21:39
What helps me is I try calling on the name of Jesus Christ. I usually struggle but if I focus on the name I usually snap out of it thank God. It helps for nightmares too.
Dozer · 2017-09-13 20:08
yeah, but how do i GET sleep paralysis ??
H.R. Giger · 2017-09-13 21:57
burn sage
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-09-13 22:39
So there is a theory that people reporting alien abductions have actually just had sleep paralysis. Some different people see similar things so these people stick together and start support groups and so on. The more people they meet the more they convince each other.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2017-09-13 22:40
>Sleep with a partner haha yeah totally
Boris Grishenko · 2017-09-23 00:05
Just do not open your eyes. You might feel a presence in your room but it's definitely not as scary as seeing one that's for sure. Keep your eyes closed and keep moving your body. Try to remind yourself that this has happened before and it will pass. Yes it is scary, yes you feel like you're gonna fuarrrking die, but just remind yourself that it's not a big of a deal.
Unsigned · 2017-09-26 19:33
There was a time when i used to have 3 or 4 episode per month. Sometimes two in a row. That lasted for about a year. Usually happened right after i became aware that i was dreaming. I never get used to it.
Ivan Petrov · 2017-09-26 21:04
>>545 Lack of sleep,inconsistent sleep pattern and lot of stress are a good start. Not something you would want to try though.
John Rain · 2017-10-01 19:25
>>60 Sleep paralysis is annoying because regardless of how many times you experience it, the ability to control the "flight or fight" impulse, that is, keep yourself from freaking out, is so impaired as it catches you by surprise. I used to get it quite often and I read it happens most often when you sleep on your back (which was the case for me). I wish I could cope with it, sit there and examine it, but I'm just to neurotic in daily life to see a black blob walking towards me and not panic lol.
Meddler · 2018-01-12 21:22
I had it last night. I had a nightmare i don't remember very well, but i remember a black fog all around me and feel of dread. Then i felt like im waking up, i opened my eyes and i couldn't move, felt like im on the edge of getting fully woken up, but some invisible sheet holds me firmly and i cant move and do anything, just stare, i felt and saw someone standing next to my bed, black figure, looking at me, feel of extreme dread and panic, felt my breath getting faster, then it stopped, i could move again, nightmare disappeared. It was in the middle of the night so i went to sleep later anyway, but needed a drink of water. Happened to me maybe twice before. What can i say, its rly scary when it happens, but after all, not much happens in my life, so its pretty interesting, some change from a boring life
XERXES · 2018-01-23 00:40
Yes, twice. The first time it was kind of boring, the second time it was absolutely terrifying. Basically, I saw a devil. Female demon, white, pale, zombie-like skin, red eyes, gross yellow teeth, long, inhuman tongue, sitting on my chest, threatening and screaming at me. I don't know what it said though, couldn't make it out. It ended pretty quickly. If I believed in anything the whole thing would probably freak me out. When I woke up properly my heart was beating like crazy, adrenaline rush and everything. All in all, would not recommend.
Saliva · 2018-01-23 19:29
Sleep paralysis is awful. It is almost always accompanied with a sense of dread, and any hallucinations you have only amplify it. Any methods of trying to prepare for it don't really work when you wake up in the middle of the night in a panic and don't know what's going on. I get intense dreams often, and I wake up in the middle of the night in paralysis maybe once a month or so. Never has it been pleasant. But it seems to be the price you pay when you try to take control of your dreams and lucid dream.
Boris Grishenko · 2018-04-19 00:45
Most of the times I've had it happen to me, it has been when I've fallen asleep due to exhaustion while trying to stay awake. My spookiest instance of it was the second time I got hit by it. I slept with my face towards the wall. I couldn't see anything, but I could hear an animal/beastly grunting moving up alongside my bed. I recognized the sensation, "knew" it was sleep paralysis, and remained relatively cool until it neared my waist area. The entity slowly slid its hand - or whatever was attached to its arm - over my body. I did not expect this to happen, and was struck by panic. Eventually I awoke with a scream, at this point it had reached my head and I could feel it breathing into my ear. Absolutely terrifying, never experienced anything like it since.
Hitomi · 2018-04-23 18:12
>>60 I occasionally get this while staring at a shadow in my room. It's as if someone is staring at me from the shadown and as I try to escape it's gaze I'm stuck. Tried screaming or moving but all I can really do is watch. I tend to wake up after an hour or so after this occuring either covered in sweat or feeling exstremely cold. But always the gap between dream and awake is blurry at those times.
Gyula Kovacs · 2018-04-23 22:34
>>981 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ixKWmYux8
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2018-05-02 10:30
>>545 Close your eyes and remain completely inmobile while focusing on your breath, it might take some practice but you can do it eventually. It also helps to have a sleep schedule consisting of small naps, I usually have the most success at inducing sleep paralysis right about 10 to 20 minutes after waking up from a nap.
Crazy Jake · 2018-05-06 05:41
I get it so often I don't experience this sense of terror or dread u guys talk about. I want to get out of it but I rarely am freaking out, I usually just breathe as intensely as possible because that seems to return my bodies control to me. I never have freaky hallucinations, usually I just see my roomate getting up from his bed and doing stuff when he isn't. One time I tried to call to him and I saw him walk out of my field of vision and I felt my body being shaken and I thought he thought I was dead and was shaking me but he wasn't there. But yeah I can even go to sleep in that state, I'm always very tired when it's happening, but I like try with all my might to fight off the urge to sleep because I always worry i'm going to go unconscious. I keep wanting to try falling back asleep because I heard it's what can cause lucid dreaming but again i'm too scared.
Netrunner · 2018-05-22 00:28
>>1007 >I just see my roomate getting up from his bed and doing stuff when he isn't Yeah I don't get it too often, but most of the time it's this kind of thing. Last time I hallucinated my landlord coming in to fix something. I was trying to yell at him and ask him exactly what the fuarrrk he was doing in my apartment at 5 in the morning... but i couldn't... and then i realized it was sleep paralysis and felt really dumb. I think I had a scary one a couple years ago but I don't remember much besides vague shadow hallucinations and the feeling of something breathing near my ear.
Anamika · 2018-05-22 00:50
>>1045 oh yeah, i also used to be able to induce it without even falling asleep. this was when i was like 15 or so. i'd just lay down on my back and close my eyes with some quite, trippy music playing in my headphones (echoes by pink floyd was the usual choice.. i was a pleb). the trick is to really pay attention to your breathing. that and (obviously) don't move. you'll really want to, but don't. i heard from some new-agey youtube video that this is your brain's way of checking to see if you're conscious before putting your body to sleep. no idea if that's true. you know when you repeat a word to yourself over and over again until it just sounds like a weird guttural noise? you kind of do that with your breathing. eventually "breath in" and "breath out" start to lose context. it's hard to explain... i'd know it was working when my breaths started to feel like they were being forced into my lungs and sucked out, as if i weren't the one doing it. eventually this happens to your whole body. the heat of your breath feels like the heat of someone else breathing in front of your mouth. the hair on your legs and arms brushing against the sheets feels like someone else's body brushing against your skin. it's really weird. at this point you can safely open your eyes, but it's probably best not to... for reasons that should be obvious from the rest of this thread. i'd usually let it go until i got bored then just fuarrrk with my breathing pattern until i "woke up". sleep paralysis is actually nice and pleasantly trippy if you do it to yourself deliberately instead of waking up to it.
Elliot Alderson · 2018-06-10 14:11
I understand how people find it horrifying or uncomfortable but i can't get over the fact that it has to be kind of interesting to be in such a "trans". At least for me when i experience Sleep Paralysis i find it quite peasant because i am no longer in control of my body and to some extent my mind, Which is at times quite relaxing. Might have something to do with my regular use of psychedelics
Just another Random Lainon · 2018-06-21 23:15
I heard about this technique to induce an out-of-body experience from a sleep paralysis. It makes use of a certain buzzing you supposedly hear during SP (I don't remember hearing it, but next time I'll pay attention to it). You must try to consciously raise the frequency of the buzzing (make it faster and raise the pitch) until you can float out of your body. Here's the source, it includes an audio file with a sample of what the buzzing sounds like. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread421574/pg1
Hacker · 2018-06-27 20:54
>>60 Used to have these a lot back in the university. Here are some pro tips to avoid it: Try to sleep on your belly. Try to regulate your sleep and avoid continuous nights with short term sleep, achieved by reducing your caffeine and exercising regularly. Try to avoid alcohol before bed. This one messed me up personally.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2018-07-16 09:11
>>60 > sleep paralysis Oh, lucky you! You're a natural conjurer and just haven't been properly trained. A pitty the state of our education systems these days. C'est la vie! To master sleep, one must also master the waking; Then you'll have transmuted your leaded lower self into a golden higher self. As always, one quests for a union of opposites. I'll not select for you a reference manual, you must seek to find. Instead I'll mention the process and let you search after whatever Silver Keys that catch your attention. Having sleep paralysis means you're naturally ahead of the curve so you might be able to skip ahead, but a more methodical approach might be helpful. Imagination is powerful, and rulers do not want to empower their serifs. This is why they focus the workers onto their system and discourage day dreaming. Begin training yourself to dream about a subject or environment at night. Begin thinking about it 90min before you sleep. Be prepared for bed and at 30min before sleep meditate on the subject / place / event, but don't lay down, leave a light on. Then turn off the bright lights, lay down, and fall asleep while concentrating on / imagining the subject – day dream yourself to sleep. Do not be discouraged if you don't remember your dreams. You'll need to maintain a neutral acid balance and take your vitamins, including potassium (eating foods is better than supplements). Keep a dream log, if you remember a dream about the subject, write it down. Most people only remember the dreams they wake up from or the lasts dream of the night. Your goal is to wake up from a dream in the morning with what you focused on still influencing the last dream before morning. Your imagination will be growing very strong and during day dreams they should feel more vivid, able to tune out background easier. Next proceed to lucid dreaming. You should also practice focused imagination and visualization during the day. Open one's mind with meditation but rather than dispel the thoughts that come to one's mind, latch onto ones that go in the direction you wish: To solve a problem focus on it, to escape latch onto more fanciful daydreams. These should get more pronounced with practice of unifying both nightly and daily mental states. Once lucidity has been unified with the subconscious while both sleeping and awake, you've been initiated into the practice of dream magic. Stay at this level if you like. Your sleeping mind does various things, it plays out scenarios to practice them, it commits short term practice to long term memory, helps create muscle memory. The spiritual conscious mind is largely a spectator there, looming over the lower beastly body, witnessing from afar the confusing subconscious shell sort itself out, and playing among the dreams this process produces. Becoming conscious of how dreams affect your life night and day will raise your level of awareness. You'll be shielded by your ego, so it's important not to have experienced ego death if you do not wish to proceed. Beware that in such a chaotic open dream state there are other forces grazing the aether that can influence you. If they notice you noticing them you may have to defend yourself. So, it's best not to proceed further until you've learned to dispel dreams and wake yourself immediately from the sleep cycle at will. This will be very handy later. The next stage is to create a familiar. This will be a thought form to help you in your dreams. It needs to be something or someone you like, but do not love. An angel or demon has traditionally been used as it's both likable and warns the mind it is dangerous / powerful, not to be trifled with. My brother uses an imaginary robot, which he enjoys programming, destroying and rebuilding rather than making separate thought forms. Your goal is to create a mental guardian, that which can defend you while you sleep. You may want to focus on scaring yourself with a movie or game, summoning that monster in your (day and night) dreams so that your guardian can practice destroying them. This is essential because next you may deal with monsters you did not summon yourself. Now comes the crucible of fire where you must stress and break bits of yourself to transmute yourself from a lower leaden Saturnian state into a Sunny Golden enlightened self. This is scary and best done with a partner or other IRL support. Now you will learn to induce sleep paralysis. Sleep deprivation (and optionally stimulants, caffeine, cocaine, crystal meth, etc. be careful but these are not absolutely required). A mild psychoactive drug may also help, the weed + coffee is common. When you have a weekend off, try not sleep starting Friday night. Sleep deprivation widens the gulf between awake and asleep and makes your day/night dreaming even more potent. Keep going for longer and longer without sleep. The goal is to induce sleep paralysis through insomnia. While very tired yet awake and unable (or unwilling) to sleep lay down, go through the physical motions of preparing to sleep but keep the mind engaged and hyperactive. You should feel brief pulsing waves accompanied by a rushing sound while slipping into paralysis. you're experiencing delta waves while your consciousness remains aware of itself. Proceed and create auditory and visual hallucinations this way. Time your REM pattern and use an alarm clock to wake you from your dream, a single loud clap, pop or bell is better than a recurrent ringing or alarm tone, but you'll have to engineer a contraption if you have no partner to help. The goal is to induce sleep paralysis while waking as well as going to sleep. During the time of sleep deprivation your day dreams may slip into brief dreams that last a few moments. You may nod off for seconds at a time in the middle of a task, do not drive or operate heavy machinery. Now you must learn how to control the sleep paralysis, to dispel it. You'll need to have your familiar trained to wake you from it at your command. Next you need to become so familiar with entering the sleep paralysis that you can go into the trance state at your will. Now your day dreams will be so powerful you can dream about anything. The sleep paralysis will allow you to see dreams overlaid into your wakeful vision. Your dream companion will be able to move about on its own. You risk possession and insanity if unprepared. To master the dream magic you will learn to build an interface to your subconscious, to link various thought forms to specific tasks. You'll be able to harness and command your physical body in ways others only dream of. A physical discipline that requires full body precision is helpful, dance or martial arts. You will be able to break the paralysis while still seeing the waking dreams. You'll trace sigils in thin air and see them and their magics carried out. No more "I've lost my keys", you'll be able to summon a sprite to fetch them for you. The aether and your subconscious record where you left them, the spectral being will flit over to where they are immediately, guiding you to the lost item with ease. Now you'll have mastered the dream magic. Next is to master the local aether. This will allow you to gain conscious control over the world beyond your physical body. Most witches will move to the woods or a secluded area unpolluted by interference from man and other people's technology. They will often make their own buildings, machines, paper, inks, cups, etc. The more things shaped by your physical self the more influence you have over them. Fear will activate your hyper vigilant state, it's important to still have fear to summon the forces you must battle if you want to dominate your local aethereal plane. If your mortal fears and basic phobias have been dispelled you may find it difficult to proceed, it's more dangerous to induce fear via risking your immortal being. Now you will actively confront and do battle with the local forces of nature and spirit. Be ware of any thing or being you did not create yourself, no alliance is permanent. Once you have concqured and dominated the local aethereal and physical forces your day dreams will be so powerful they influence others. With nothing impeding you locally you'll become a path of least resistance to much magical energy. Bits of the future will slip through you before becoming reality resulting in clairvoyance. I'm sure you can see where this is going. From there you can either seek to become one with the universe, or create a new one in your image.
ハバネロ · 2018-09-11 08:54
When I was younger I got sleep paralysis a couple of times. It usually triggered anytime I fell asleep on my back rather than my side (I to my knowledge have never slept on my stomach). It, to me, is horrific to wake up and being unable to move. I never got into a lucid dream state from that unfortunately. All I wanted to after waking in to sleep paralysis was to get out of it.
Void · 2018-09-11 13:56
>>1248 That sounds highly interesting and oddly enough im having a synchronicity kind of thing so i dont find this hard to believe. But im curious if you have any more solid advice or somehow could elaborate more on the possible outcomes of such practive.
Morpheus · 2018-09-15 08:53
>>60 I get re-occurring sleep paralysis every time I deploy. It's terrifying. Usually, it comes right after a bad dream that involves someone close to me dying and coming back for me.
Lunch · 2018-09-15 14:12
>>1549 another military lainon? I knew someone who said he had sleep paralysis and saw someone in an old fashioned uniform standing over him and he was unable to move which he thought was weird but he brushed it off as SP... he was coincidentally also sleeping in the same bed as someone who died a horrible death there some years before, he was unaware of the history of the bed he was in, which freaked him out even more. on a somewhat related note, are you familiar with the people who brought back ghosts to the barracks in japan?
Cereal Killer · 2018-09-15 14:19
>>1248 why does this sound exactly like a wicca guide to meditation? also why do Americans not sleep on their sides/bellies?
Elliot Alderson · 2018-09-15 15:26
>>1551 why do you think it's just an American thing? Most people sleep in different ways.
Lunch · 2018-09-15 16:13
>>1550 >saw someone standing over him Sorry, no. That wasn't me. >japan Sorry again. Never been to East Asia. I've had some interesting experiences with "gin" in N. Africa, though.
Nemissa · 2019-12-19 10:40
this dood i know has a rare (genetic?) disease related to how the brain regulates sleep or whatever so the docs went through the motions of trying the usual medicines for just generic sleep disorders and prescribed him like the strongest soykaf they had because all of them just dont work in his case he ended up having a REALLY bad night of sleep paralysis for like, a couple hours or something luckily his psyche did not get damaged in the process i dont think
Delilah · 2019-12-23 01:26
>>2695 >a couple hours or something 20 minutes is bad enough. Antipsychotics are the root cause of mine but the alternative is worse, so I'm stuck with it around once per week. Trying to sit up or roll over, it feels like I'm moving very heavily, then I "snap" back into place. Screaming does nothing. It's best to just close my eyes and try waking again later, but I will try the tips itt.
Jane Doe · 2019-12-23 01:30
I've had a sleep paralysis episode where a bunch of hands were holding me down. It was terrifying and I ended up hearing weird noises similar to static.
Hagbard Celine · 2020-03-02 05:11
>>60 Inceptions do happen sometimes, like you thought you woke up but it was a dream. [Sleep Paralysis] is a good training in order to wake up from [Lucid Dreaming] and theoretically [Astral Projection]. First you should develop resistance to the fear of paralysis and darkness. If you can "snap out" of SP you can go to the next step which is LD. My bail or snap out method would be finger, hand, feet movement, or upperbody going upright with full force. LD would require you to enter the SP state first but willfully and have intention to do so (to LD). SP state is complete darkness, if you succumbed into the fear then the imagery will be haunting, ghosts/ayy pick your poison. Don't panic, it's just dark and weird. You can conjure whatever you want and you have total control, you can even conjure your waifu~, your mind is awake and it is an amazing state but I think it burns through stored DMT so it's not gonna last long enough. Now after this, you can jump into the next step which is theoretically to AP outside of the world you conjured, It might even be possible to conjure the outside world in or just noclip out of the conjuring room and as claims say you are now projected back into reality or you can even choose your own but I've no idea how many of those exist. If your LD state had presets like theme, setting, characters then it's not exactly LD but an Interactive Dream. Sometimes these are just inceptions within a dream that you entered into LD state but it's not exactly LD but a simulation of LD within a common dream state.
Acid Burn · 2020-03-02 05:23
>>2946 Also, the best advice is to cover your eyes with some hankerchief (just covering not tightened) while doing so. If you SP while your eyes are open it will be weird, like you will see entities or ghosts. Make sure everything is comfortable, the position of sleep, background noise, enjoy.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2020-03-04 15:29
I encounter sleep paralysis a few times a year 1-3 for the last 3 years now. All the times the same things happend and they were all after a night of heavy drinking. I sleep in complete darkness (can't see anything at all) with a locked door. I always have the feeling something is on the other side of the door but it can't get in. After a while of trying to move and failing I try to scream but I can't hear a sound. After that I wake up terrified by knocking on my door because someone heard me scream. How can it be that I can't hear my own scream?
Unspecified · 2020-03-07 13:07
>Be Me >Meet witch who kisses me >one night I have SP and shes in the room (as a spirit) leaning over me remarking how Im mouth breathing as I sleep >another night I sense a presence and wake up hitting my headboard. >she wont answer my messages irl >Eventually she does but is mean, I call her a silly witch >I see her in a vision talking about me to a friend, I say her name and we meet in that limbo, dark place where you can feel everything, she punches me in the neck and I feel it as I wake up >on the night of valentines I have another vision, we are in what is meant to be my home, she has her back to me and tells me two of her friends are coming to visit >I say that she should have asked me first >I then have sleep paralysis and there's a big cat like a jaguar in the bed on top of me, growling like its about to slash me up >I call angelic names and wake up instantly Someone posted the book protection and reversal magick here and in that it literally says that having a dream that somebody has their back turned to you is a sign that magick is being worked against you. I read this after these events. Im not making this up, SP is related to the spirit world and must be treated as such.
Yu-ichi · 2020-03-17 16:51
i never used to dream or have any sort of interesting things related to sleep, but ever since i did md in like 2018 i now have multiple extremely vivid dreams every night. a side effect of that is that in like 1/3rd of these dreams, i *dream* that i have sleep paralysis, inside my dreams. its almost an inception tier thing where i will realise i am dreaming, try to wake up and push through a weird sleep paralysis thing, flopping my unresponsive limbs around trying to wake myself up, waking up, then realising im actually just in another dream and beginning the cycle again. im fortunate enough not to feel fear during these dreams, but after waking up its always very disconcerting and scary and it makes me hesitant to go to sleep again.
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2020-03-18 14:16
>>2971 u should pet the cat
Hans · 2020-03-26 01:20
>>1248 You've piqued my interest, I'd love to learn more from you.
Spike Spiegel · 2020-03-26 01:38
Sometimes when I have sleep paralysis, I hallucinate some being under my blankets and feel something rubbing my cock. After what feels like hours, I cum. Shortly thereafter, the paralysis subsides, and I discover I have indeed ejaculated. It would be awesome except it is always fuarrrking terrifying.
Vasya Pupkin · 2020-03-26 06:26
i recently got into lucid dreaming, i usually do the WILD technique wich gets me in sleep paralysis quite often before i'm able to enter e real dream. the first times i often saw shadow figures standing, running around the room and coming towards me but i havent had those in quite some time. i find i rather anoying to unstuck myself, just randomly ttying to move every bodypart seems to work best for me
Nguoi La · 2020-08-03 19:59
>>1114 I've had sleep paralysis several dozen times in my life and never heard any static whatsoever. the only things I hear are either voices or screaming and shouting. or just nothing.
Yu-ichi · 2020-08-03 20:28
sometimes yeah. A few times it has been truly terrifying, like I thought I was really going to die in some gruesome manner. One time I watched a man come up to my window, pull out a gun, and shoot me. Usually I just hallucinate someone's voice, like they're in the next room talking to someone else, but it's always the voice of someone I know, and they're always talking about me. Those always feel completely real, even when I wake up. What else... a few times I've hallucinated that I was transforming into a werewolf or something. It feels *really* good but when I wake up from it it's hard to go back to sleep. Other times I feel a 'presence' or a weight on my chest but nothing else.
Vasya Pupkin · 2020-08-04 05:39
Is this a real, documented thing or is it one of those LARP things like tulpas? Do you actually see a person made of darkness strangling you or any kind of humanoid shaped presence literally in your room? How do you not die of fright?
William Holtzer · 2020-08-04 14:46
>>3444 yes, it is just as real as any other nightmare.
Bobby Newmark · 2020-08-21 20:19
>>3444 I've actually had it happen to me plenty of times but I never see things walking around the room. most of the time I just "see" an "invisible hand" drawing things in mid-air like it's kid pix and maybe some really creepy voices. sometimes I've heard voices in my head try to talk to me in a with a really creepy, rapey intonation, or I've heard things behind me yelling at the top of their lungs as if they got maimed or something, and see a muzzle flash from behind me. and yes it's extremely scary. not LARP soykaf at all. I have to deal with it all the time and it feels awful. but after it's done it's fun to reminisce about it and share it because it's something unique not a lot of people experience. maybe some people ITT are LARPing, it's very possible, but this is a very real historically recorded thing.
Cereal Killer · 2020-08-22 00:10
>>3470 No wonder people believed in spirits.
The Oracle · 2020-08-24 21:06
Last few times I got sleep paralysis it seemed pretty plain. Annoying, kinda, but not frightening for sure. This is what I think happens (or how I perceive it to be). I wake up, but I'm still sleeping. Does that make sense? I'm asleep, my body is asleep, but my consciousness is kind of dreaming the room. It really does feel like I'm looking at the room from within a dream, kind of just reconstructing it from memory. And so I try to move but I'm really still sleeping so I cannot move, my body prevemts me from moving in my sleep (for survival I guess). I have to actually wake up in order to move, and it all looks slightly different. But it takes a while to actually wake up because I'm already convinced I'm awake and should be able to move. I've been wondering, if this were true, could it be possible to induce astral projection this way? Sort of actually sitting up.... in my astral body (assuming this is real)? And how would one then detach from the bodily idea of the self to achieve this?
Pulse · 2020-10-03 22:29
My last paralysis was yesterday and I was in a weird position so my first instinct was to lay on my back. I still didn't realize I couldn't move so as I saw myself slowly falling from my bed and I couldn't feel myself touch the floor so I got spooked and snaped back. All you have to do though is take a really deep breath and this should do the trick
Guthrie · 2020-10-04 22:56
What I like to do to tackle sleep paralysis is concentrate all my focus on a part of my body (in most cases my right dominant hand index finger) and try to get it moving, only I manage to budge it just a little all sleep paralysis goes away like flipping a switch
Drifter · 2020-10-04 22:57
>>3475 You're not to off, as far as I know, your muscles are still "sleeping" but your mind is already awake
John Doe · 2020-12-23 23:48
>Basically 90% of the time i then have a dream that i am in sleep paralysis, finally get unstuck and roll off of the bed, then wake up from that dream in REAL sleep paralysis. This loop can go on for like 10 or more cycles Holy fuarrrking soykaf, are you me? I get sleep paralysis constantly, sometimes accompanied by hypnagogic hallucinations. I'll have dreams that I think are real where I've gotten up out of bed and escape sleep paralysis, going about the motions of my every-day routine, before realizing I have actually been asleep, and am still in sleep paralysis, this entire time, and that will happen 10+ times. I can not go back to bed right away when I get sleep paralysis, or I'll get stuck in that fuarrrking "loop", like my mind is torturing me. I also get weird Incubus hallucinations.
Drifter · 2020-12-24 00:47
>>581 This is good advice. Sometimes I mentally tell the presence to fuarrrk off because I want to sleep. It really does help to imagine it as a struggle between you and some kind of entity, even if you don't believe in that kind of thing. >>1087 Maybe -- I used to smoke high-THC weed right before bed because I liked the hypnagogic state it would induce, but like anything to do with psychedelics it can go badly. I don't like when I get paralyzed instead of sleeping. Sometimes I go in and out for what feels like hours and I get so very tired and I just want to be unconscious.
Armitage · 2020-12-24 01:33
One time a spidey friend crawled on my neck and woke me out of a particularly spooky one but I freaked out and squished him. :( RIP spidey friend.
Turner · 2021-09-14 03:24
This might seem a bit weird but I'd like to learn how to induce sleep paralysis on myself. I think I experienced it once years before, and would like to return to this strange half-dream state. If anyone has any ideas or tips on how to induce it then please do tell, thanks.
Nguoi La · 2021-10-03 14:36
It has only happened to me once. I tried moving my arms and felt a very strong 'pins and needles' feeling, without actually moving at all. I had read about sleep paralysis before so I knew what was going on. In the end I just went back to sleep because I was still tired and it was the weekend.
chin · 2021-10-05 07:57
i used to have this but now i just stick with sleep deprivation as possible to avoid
Nanashi No Gombe · 2021-10-06 18:18
>>60 Worst hallucinations ever. One time in bed, can tell I'm "awake" but stuck in bed, I thought I then herd the tornado siren and then saw 3 tornado coming toward my house. Brother says he saw the whole thing, said my eyes were open and I just looked freaked out. Happens a lot actually now that I think about it... It happens more often if I am not sleeping at a regular time.
The Plague · 2022-02-22 08:18
I've been getting it once every two or three days for the last few months, probably due to stress and sleep deprivation. It's terrifying still every time, although I find it interesting in retrospective after waking up. I usually unstick myself by breathing with my mouth open, moving my hands to scratch myself, and generally making noise. Sleep paralysis demons are a 'meme' but they still feel sentient and malicious every single time.
Debbie Charteris · 2022-02-23 17:22
>>1553 like muslim djin? Those are just disgruntled spirit entities IIRC
Spooky · 2022-05-11 19:59
I haven't gotten one of those in a while now but the last time I did it was something really similar to what you described. Namely dreaming of myself being in a sleep paralysis and then "waking up" to a real one later on, except that in my case I had to go through multiple layers of "dream paralyses" before finally reaching the real one. I don't tend to see spooky stuff during these but the thought that things could appear scares me. And I've never had anyone or anything forcibly pull me out of a sleep paralysis, sounds like it could be an interesting experience though.
Agent Jones · 2022-05-12 12:53
>>3475 >Annoying, kinda, but not frightening for sure. I had one like this a few weeks ago. I kept "waking up" only not waking up. The room I saw was laid out like mine but with additional things like a door that wasn't there, and people and cats. I went through about 15 false wake ups like this. In some I remembered what was happening, and in others I didn't, but I remembered them all when I finally woke up. In some of these layers I was physically forcing my eyes open, trying to shake my head, but I couldn't break out. In one there was a laptop I was cradling like a teddy bear. Only I couldn't get rid of it, put it on the desk. It weighed too much and here we see a classic manifestation of the weight on one's chest like OP's pic and many, many old drawings and paintings. In another, I was standing in the room and there was the shredded innards of a foam cushion, like a couch cushion. I knew only one creature was likely to cause that and I found one. A little cat sitting right where my chest would be if I were still lying down. It didn't look anything like my own cat. He was surveying the mess and said "wasn't me" and I realized, lainjammit, I'm still dreaming aren't I? He repeated himself like it was the only thing he was capable of saying.
Koichiro · 2022-05-18 15:32
>>4974 >Worst hallucinations ever. I agree. >>60 It only happened once in my life. That day I was having troubles to sleep, I didn't knew a bit that I was dreaming at the point I thaught that there were someone hiding behind the sligthly open door in my room. So then, in my highest peak of despair, I've became fiercely assaulted by a paramilitary-like squad. I was a kid when that happened. I woke up screaming that day.
Jet Black · 2022-06-26 10:12
I hate it. One time I thought I died in my sleep. I could not move and found it hard to breathe, I was immersed in this dark void and was sinking into it, then I woke up, that scared me the most. The most recent time I just had these peculiar vague visions, it seemed demonic to me, then I broke free and sat in bed for a while. The last sleep paralysis experience I had was months ago, I typically get it when laying on my back. I can always break loose, I am not sure how to describe doing such, I try to move and cannot, realize I am paralyzed then just will myself to move, it takes about 10-15 seconds to break out, typically before spooky things happen in regards to hallucinations.
Donna Hawthorne · 2022-09-11 18:02
I started taking 2 mg prazosin for nightmares. It helps a lot, but this morning I got the worst sleep paralysis or hallucination combo I've had in a while. I was trying to sleep, when I feel my hair pulled back, and my crotch grabbed at the same time. I hear ragged breathing. My boyfriend is in the other room. I couldn't move or scream until i felt like whatever "grabbed" me was gone. I really hate sleeping so much. It's probably just my ptsd in tandem with my schizo and occasional sleep paralysis. What do you think, lainon?
Bob Arctor · 2022-09-12 00:05
>>60 All of my sleep paralysis demons are usually toys or game characters. Nothing actually scary, just a bit odd. Only has happened twice. Its weird shifting from day timeto immediately night or early morning because your brain isn't completely sure what time it is.
Hitomi · 2022-09-22 17:27
>>5762 My only advice is don't sleep on your back
Jane Doe · 2022-09-23 16:36
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