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>ctrl+f 'fashion' >no result We need to get a fashion general up in this bitch. I think we'll have a lot of overlap with aesthetics and inspiration. Post whatever fits you like, either irl or from media. Don't know the first thing about fashion bc ur a NEET? Just ask for some advice, we all start somewhere

Techwear is nice to look at, but expensive and almost always needlessly overengineered. Aesthetic signaling ought to reflect more than just taste in shapes in textures, but also taste in personal values. For this reason I've been favoring olive green over all black lately. And besides. Can you really be a foo-punk if you make an effort to stand out in a crowd? You can't be doing anything too interesting if you're comfortable being seen.

I'm a fashion expert with decades of experience, AMA.

Are there any good alternatives to backpacks? I usually don't need to carry much more than laptop, maybe some groceries. I just find that meanwhile backpacks ruin a fit of a jacket (I live in a cold climate) and all alternatives don't seem to look good to me. Anyone here uses a shoulder bag?

>>9816 why is it all so garbage why cant they just like wear sensible things

>>9803 I do agree that a lot of techwear is overpriced and can be a more cosplay than fashion, but techwear is also a school of thought of having clothing that is very functional. You don't have to spend 1k on mid cargos from acronym, you can cop a cool pair for less than $100 usd without looking to hard. I'm not even a big techwear guy, I just like some of the cargos. >Can you really be a foo-punk if you make an effort to stand out in a crowd? Yes. Obviously don't wear avant-garde soykaf, but when I go to get the bread I get it with style. Then again I do most of my soykaf in the city, so I kinda have to to an extent.

>>9819 Tote bags or crossbody bags are probably what ur looking for.

>>9803 >>9821 How about the fact that techwear is all coated in toxic, non-degradable PFAS and/or is made of plastic. The really patrician choice is clothing made of completely organic fabrics. Wool, cotton, linen, straw, etc.

>>9823 >wool based. I'm a fan of the patagucci brand fleeces myself. >>9821 >cargo pants can't go wrong with carhartt Living in a tropical climate means I basically just wear a ratty pair of swim trunks and flip-flops and nobody gives a soykaf. If I wore techwear I would become a living swamp.

>>9824 >I basically just wear a ratty pair of swim trunks and flip-flops and nobody gives a soykaf. If I wore techwear I would become a living swamp. If techwear means anything, it means wearing clothing that is highly adapted to your body and environment. In a hot, humid climate, breathable clothes in styles that help your body cool off are the ultimate """techwear.""" Swim trunks and flip-flops are pretty lousy and unfashionable unless you're at the beach though. I'd recommend getting some hiking sandals and good looking shorts, or breathable, loose-fitting pants

>>9825 Hmm, you mean something like these? I never got in to them myself but I have a buddy who swears by them. He's weird though.

>>9826 Yes, Teva is one such brand. Though I find only their "Original" style of sandals to be aesthetic.

>>9816 How achievable would it be for robots to cut people's clothes to their specific dimentions? Could we replace most laces with webbing and buckles like how backpacks do it to allow both sizing adjustment and quick don/doff? Seems like a better system to me than tying laces or Velcro that can get soiled.

>>9832 not him but here goes >How achievable would it be for robots to cut people's clothes to their specific dimentions? Not achievable at current pricepoints for entry level clothes, but entierly acheivable technically. Pattern making is and has been for a long time quite programmatic, I'd wonder whether a robot would cut it cheaper than a malaysian though. >Could we replace most laces with webbing and buckles like how backpacks do it to allow both sizing adjustment and quick don&doff my personal experience is that laces give a bit better control than the buckle system I've seen on backpacks. But I see quite little lacing done anywhere but on shoes these days, and thats perhaps the main place such fine control is warranted. I think you overestimate how useful resizing is on clothes, any real resizing probably should be done with needle and thread. Even children don't change size so quickly that that becomes untennable. What resizing is needed is just that for donning and doffing, and a single belt frankly suffices for that for the most part. Buttons/zippers on i.e. coats and jackets could probably be so replaced, and I've seen belts on such garments in the style of backpack fasteners. Seems reasonable to me. Not a revolution though, not faster to don&doff than someone who ties a good knot either. Buckles are bulkier than buttons, less effective at sealing than zippers. Not sure what you see in them. Have seen velcro on i.e. cuffs of again especially outerwear and this is a bit of a bother. Cuffs can get dirty and a lot of wear and velcro is a bit sensative to these things. On the other hand there's a big perk that velcro offers: its ease of use. Cant easily close one of those buckles with one hand. But velcro doesnt even need a hand, you can just do it with your wrist and a semi hard surface like your torso. A seperate adjusteable belt to control the size of the cuff might be nice but I think buckling it is ordinarily going to be a hassel.

>>9823 Unfortunately most common used fabric dyes also are petrol products. Would be nice if Alpaca wool was more common. It's the most sustainable form of wool I've heard. Hemp is stronger than linen so that's another good option in materials. Silk also is a good material and can be biosythesized these days.

Anyone know where I can get a shirt and tie like Deckard?

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>>9866 JC penny/ross/macy's big box stores on the sale rack... nobody wears them, and it makes sense that you wear corpo trash in a cyb dystopia i'm over techwear, it's too niche. I usually wear dark colored suits for work, or casually cargo pants with a riggers belt and a hoodie with a tshirt, and combat boots, or swap the cargo pants with jeans. I lost my interest in fashion when everything turned to imitating influencer trends. Runway shows are old school, and dressing with actual culture makes you either too trad, a homo, or an old person. pic related is where i'ts at tho

>>9868 soykaf, this is exactly what I've been wearing for years now. Huh, i didn't know i was stylish.

So uh lets say there is an individual who wears gym shorts and a tee shirt every day with a backpack. How bad would this be fashion wise?

>>9873 If you are tall and muscular, great. If you are out of shape and short, terrible.

>>9873 describe footwear, sounds absolutely normal person tier

>>9873 It's not fashionable unless the shorts or shirt are very unusual looking. However, if you're fit you'll look fine, if you're not fit you'll look like a slob.

>>9876 can confirm, this was me for the longest time, then i started getting fat and swapped to jeans and t shirt default

>>9840 >Unfortunately most common used fabric dyes also are petrol products. would be nice if there was more undyed clothing around I guess. weird that there isnt. maybe its just been a while since i looked. >Would be nice if Alpaca wool was more common. It's the most sustainable form of wool I've heard. all wool is sustainable if you eat lamb. much of the world has a surplus of wool, fleeces going unused. use all the wool u can dont feel bad about it. >hemp v. linen no comment.

>>9886 I've seen some undyed stuff as well as natural dyed but it's still pretty rare. Mushroom dyes sound nice from what I read about them which is probably cheaper than something like indigo for example. Alpaca have lower methane emissions and land use than sheep or something if i recall right. That is what i meant by sustainable.

>>9887 there's a whole lot of vegetable dyes too not just mushrooms. Madder root and beet and tumeric and yadda yadda. Nother big thing to think about is mordants and all, can also be 'natural' whaddever da fug that means but its another dimension that out to be considered. >>9887 >Alpaca have lower methane emissions and land use than sheep or something This reeks of globomonoculturalist overoptimization. Different animals & breeds do better in different climates, with different local flora/faunas et certra. Too many axis both in desired products (meat, leather, wool, horns), and regional details for a one size fits all solution to make sense. tldr dont dis all our other wooly friends plz

>>9888 I really just meant more eco friendly when i said natural. There really should bbe a better term for it. It doesnt have to be something from nature, could be like bioegineered dyes would be useful or engineering the colour of "natural" fibres at their source so no additional dying process is needed. Yes different environments different animals can be more suitable because it's not just land use, methane emmisions but also transport where something local will be best but i think the stuff that said alpaca was more sustainable was talking about specific regions possibly. Though technically it should be possible to grow wool without the animal with the right genetic engineering then it can be like the wool of any animal even endangered ones.

This thread is far too hipster, to be honest carimg about the environment is cool and all, but cyb is about techwear and reusing materials. Making clothes can be cyb, why not try using mylar, plastic bags, nylon, and gor-tex

>>9898 Bioelogically engineered materials that are eco and bio compatible is as cyb as it gets.

>>9825 Speaking of this, is there any recommended techwear for warm weather? I don't want my aesthetics to be seasonal.

>>9898 >Mylar >Potato chip bags >Nylon >Cyberpunk Stealing Goodwill's wifi while you wear other people's clothes is as cyberpunk as you can get without just being a technomillenial tryhard.

>>9911 rainjackets and aerospace moisture wicking/flame retardimg materials are pretty techwear.

>>9898 Has the term "hipster" changed yet again? I'm still going by the definition where they don't care about the environment or anything else besides reputation and social status derived from shallow, superficial appearance and the constant one-upping of each other through demonstrations of cynical detachment.

>>9911 What i say will deviate from Techwear but still have basically same look. Avoid cotton and cheaply produced polyester claiming to be moisture wicking which is hard to find any that actually work as claimed. Wear merino wool as your closer fitting base layer will keep you cooler than cotton and protects you from the sun better but when gets cold will keep you warmer. Just pick correct micron size for your sensitivity to ichiness but most people wont have much issue below 18 microns There even is t shirts made out of merino. Lyocel is the latest form of rayon and is good to keep cooler and doesnt use toxic materials like other forms in production. Any outer layer if a synthetic fabric will need to have good air flow so loose enough especially good if you have air vents on it.

>>9797 Anyone have some shirt recommendations? I almost exclusively wear black T-Shirts, either band-/convention prints or blank. I'd like something different. Unique cuts, materials, maybe even functionality? And a bonus question, any ideas on un-bootlickering milsurp stuff beside patches?

Marigold Shadows is cheap. It's mostly women's stuff, but some of it is unisex. The jackets can be really interesting. >>10283 >un-bootlickering Fag. Just wear it idiot, your actions determine whether you lick boots or not (you probably do)

>>10284 Okay friend, I'll make it more obvious what I meant. Any ideas on modifying military surplus clothing to lessen/remove the connotations that originating from a strict hirachical system subservient to the government brings? Activities would include: Removing the shoulder straps (epaulettes) or sewing on punk, metal, anarchist, etc patches.

>>10285 first of all most of the people I see who wear milsurp clothes are punk-types if they're not /k/ommandos or other tacticool types and I think its easy to avoid that look if you try. Do no excercise and cultivate a slightly yellow waxy pallour and you're good to go. IDK man I think patches are more often than not ugly and generally all just show your taste in boots. Consider some light embroidery work, or reenforcement/adjustments (especially with unusual thread colours). A lot of military clothes are made cheaply and generically and a little tailoring and can make it more unique while also improving it. obviously depends on the garment how feasible/easy this is

>>10289 my advice would be to look over on varustelka, remember that 9/10th's of it you dont want and the 10% you do won't look nice on your body

>>9797 >Don't know the first thing about fashion bc ur a NEET? Yeah, pretty much. I used to be a loner/hikki type until I started venturing outside for that paycheck. I don't know how to dress and just wear random soykaf. So how do I develop good fashion sense/find my style? >>10285 Like this idea, but it seems wrong to just stick on random punk/metal or anarchist patches if your not into those scenes. I'd love to make/recycle my own clothes, but I have a lot on my plate already and don't have time to learn new skills.

>>10322 The key is understanding color... Fit should accent you as a person, but that comes more to confidence, if you look insecure in your fashion, it makes you look out of place in your clothes. Classic styles are like uniforms for your clique, each with its own nuances. I won't even go into style for a beginner, at a certain point you will just understand what looks good or not. the right fit can mean the clothes don't look too big or small, but there are aesthetic trends that wear exactly that. The best recommendation I have is to make sure your shoulders fit your shirt, and your waist fits your pants, everything else you can play with.

### 10 top tips for lain fa noobs ### Stand up straight. Drink only water/coffee/alcohol. Get a haircut. Buy a very nice pair of sunglasses. How the clothes fit you is the most important thing. DO NOT wear clothes with words, graphics or brands on them. Wear a maximum of 4 colours. Never use the lowest button on a suit jacket. Aesthetics or 'looks' are for people who know what they are doing. Remember to have fun with it.

I am absolutely desperate to find full epub scans of a&f quarterly catalogs online. Its crazy that one of the most popular catalogs are not online in full. Yet, I can find sears or whatever. They are like impossible to find, it was truly perfect minimalist fashion. fuarrrk.

>>10352 Would add on the use of perfume. Some people also utilize pheromone additives (pretty /cyb/ imo if they work) That's a whole 'nother territory. Consider also jewelry and accessories. Cybergoth was an impractical but aesthetic fit from a former era. Actually a lot of the things that came from the cold war punk/grunge/electronic/metal scene were pretty /cyb/

>>10283 I used to have a few tech wool ultra thin-high thermal reflection undershirts made for hiking. You could spend a lot and get niche undergarment t-shirts like nomex/ dri-fire which are meant for firefighting and pilots. Milsurp from the loosing side is pretty schway and anti establishment. Literally rebel against the status quo by definition. East German uniform parts. USSR special military equipment was also designed for practicality not safety, and some of it was mad max tier. >>10285 >>10289 >>10321 Putting patches is a delicate balance. A lot of fast fashion derives from old school punk, and your patches have to send the right message or it will look like you are a tryhard normal person or hippie. The patches also cant be autistic or mainstream. Flight jackets are a good fashion piece, but some milsurp is specifically associated with groups like bikers, stoners, or left/right wing extremism. Patches can signal to fellow enthusiasts of your choice. I usually wear GITS or SEL patches on my gear. I also wear 40 year old milsurp with other "tactical" clothing so I look like a /k/ autist/matrix larper in my spare time. My normal day job I dress in business attire. A well made dress suit is pretty comfy to be honest.

>>10605 Based advice. But where the fuarrrk do you find good GITS/Lain patches? Alixpress and hope they don't fall apart instantly? A friend gifted me some from dustrial, they're pretty schway but cost too much. Not sure if I'd spend that much of my own money. I also have a cool pin from hello void online, they apparently went out of buisness though.

>>10607 Kommandostore used to make a lot of anime patches, they tend to be reliable, except the owner has been accused of some questionable advertising practices, and also that time he turned customer lists to the feds after accidentally selling fake explosives that like 1% weren't actually so fake. Primary customer base was always 4 and 8 /k/ You can also try etsy, but double check to make sure they aren't just reselling alibaba patches. If you want to be /cyb/ then just go to a local tailor or print shop and see if they do embroidery.

Call me a glitterboy all you want. Buck-Tick's fashion has always interested me.