Hong Kong - cyberpunk is real

Just gonna post photos of the current protest landscape.

Very kino.

Can you feel it now.

>4038 Some really beautiful/thought-provoking pictures in here, thanks for sharing. :)

Great pictures, takes me back to my younger days though it wasn't Hong Kong.

fuarrrk, I love chinks now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lGulxt2X-k

Welcome!

>>4065 Meant for >>4061 >>4062

>>4064 That's the Hong Kong spirit, Made in Hong Kong!

Thanks for the pictures man. Where do you get them from?

>>4084 Various media outlets and social media.

pure kino thread >>4042 fallout >>4039 the mandolorian >>4046 banksy >>4047 >>4051 >>4052 v for vendetta >>4075 blade runner >>4081 >>4090 >>4088 star wars >>4086 falling down >>4088 1st pic - captive state

thanks for posting these, lainon.

>>4101 No problem!

What's up with the brick arches everywhere?

>>4110 To stop police cars.

Kino indeed. The laser pointers look sick. I heard Chilean protestors used them to take out drones. Is that what the bows are for?

>>4115 Shootin' authoritarian pigs in the face

>>4115 The bows are for shooting at the police. Laser pens can be used to blur CCTV footage. >https://www.tctechsystems.com/will-a-laser-pointer-damage-a-security-camera/ >https://ilda.com/camera-sensor-damage.htm

>>4123 Don't reply, lainon. I've stopped counting the times I've seen the 'protests are CIA-instigated' trollpasta. Don't feed trolls, make them starve. I wouldn't like this nice thread to be turned into endless baiting, trolling and conspiracy theories.

it's a joke when you think about it. So embarrassing for everyone in the west. Look at how Hong Kongers handles their business. Whistleblowers in the west expose mass surveillance, citizens murdered in the streets by cops and nobody does soykaf. But yeah let's have a "wiminz march because Trump said something about pussies." "Lets stage a walkout from Google" which is a glorified, long lunch break. We're done, lying on our stomachs.

>>4127 100% agreed, protest in the US is utterly dickless and cowed.

>>4127 The only thing that glorifies HK protests is the brutal pushback of Chinese government. Without it the HKers would lay on their stomachs too. Having yourself put yourself in the shoes of villains your enemy wants you to be is never a good idea, even if you don't care. That makes HKers more determinate in their push for "independence". But real fact of why these protests are more effectively planned and stronger is because US government alongside companies want to have a crackdown of Chinese government as result of these protests.

>>4112 Let's have the first picture of this post as an example of well staged media propaganda. She is standing there and not fighting back. Why? Because she knows what will happen and why it will happen. She instigated the policeman to carry out his mission to get any of protestors weapons from them. Cop is just carrying his orders and woman is just plainly standing there and welcoming that reaction by just standing there in the middle of the street. (if you were to get punched would you react or just stand there for a photo shoot) Why did she do this? To get a good picture for the media to go "see how terrible the situation is out there, they grab that poor defenseless womans umbrella ;_;" picturesque political photos.

I don't like Hong Kongers, they're smug because they got rich off the real estate bubble. Mainlanders on the other hand work in factories and produce the goods I'm using.

>>4130 Why would the US want a crackdown on the Chinese government? It's because of mainland policies that their labor is exploitatively cheap enough to support our manufacturing and tech industry. That's the last thing the US would want to lose.

>>4132 So you don't like the people with some dignity of wealth that they got from economic vagaries (like you) and you'd like them to be destitute enough to work for no money and make you stuff. Alright at least it's honest.

>>4135 It's funny that they keep on doing that anyway, even after I wrote >to be turned into endless baiting, trolling and conspiracy theories

>>4133 >That's the last thing the US would want to lose. Explain that to certain Twitter man. >>4130 The Chinese government has always been brutal in their repression of civil movements. Nothing particularly new here. In fact, if the HK protestors didn't have internet to communicate with the outside world, they would all be dead by now.

>>4147 love that neon poster

>>4143 >The Chinese government has always been brutal in their repression of civil movements. Nothing particularly new here After cultural revolution the Chinese government got a little bit softer. Even when they were called out for brutally killing and harvesting organs from political prisoners of falun gong (and selling to westerners through jewish insurance companies) they immediately stopped. Mind you, China is trying little by little to brush off their brutal tactics and get "in" and "hip" with the new 21st century crowd but it's getting LIIIITTTLLLEEEE BY LITTTLLEEE. >if the HK protestors didn't have internet to communicate with the outside world, they would all be dead by now. I enjoy the show either way. No popcorns needed, so fun you can just bite your nails. Out right massacre to HKers? Naaahhhh. A military coup with curfew and even more brutal dictatorship? Oh hell yea.

Just gonna drop in to say "thanks for the read" to everyone who chipped in this thread. The internet has turned to such a steaming pile of skadoodle, that any such glimpse of (kinda-)proper discussion reminds of the days long past. Anyhow, my take is that regardless of propagandist motivation (both the west and china really not being too covert about their ulterior motives), human lives shouldn't be wasted like this. Really curios what the rest of the world will do if it'll (inevitably) turn into an all-out carnage.

>>4177 no no NO.

Why i don't see any pcv bows? The're very easy to do, especially if you have a gas stove to warm up the pipe before bending They may be worse than regular bows but it's better than none

>>4196 What kind of plastic would you need to make those?

>>4197 I think he meant PVC. The real question is why they would make PVC bows when they clearly have plenty of real bows.

What's happening in Hong Kong is a sneak peek at what's going to happen in the United States in a couple decades. Get ready.

>>4204 Hmm. I don't think the people in the US will stand up and fight. They're too cowed. Completely lost all class consciousness, both middle and lower, they all think they're just another couple years of hard, individualist work from being upper class and so they vote for those people's interests. And they think real protest is too violent for serious political change, despite the evidence of literally all of history. They think they can keep tweaking and massaging their obviously rigged election system and make change happen just by turning out to vote. They're sitting there pulling the lever on a broken slot machine while succumbing to an opiate nod. The US populace has been driven insane by media and are locked into the death drive now. They don't hope or dream of the future. They don't do anything rational and won't come out to fight even for their own lives. But they'll constantly come out and fight in some worthless proxy war in a totally unrelated country to prop up the petrodollar. It's an almost perfectly managed population. And the best part is they think they're free. They've fetishized and mythologized freedom until they don't even think about what it means anymore. It means whatever they are, apparently. They don't even notice. They're more insidiously pessimistic and shut-down than the post-soviet Russians. But they can't even admit that. They try and smile through it; that's how utterly housebroken common US citizens have become for their ruling class.

>>4205 As influenciable as thay are I wouldn't be surprised if some political group managed to make people angry at something they wouldn't even care in other circumstances, extremists are so easy to manipulate (both sides), and they have lots of guns. But yeah, I agree, they would just insult each other on twitter, fuarrrking burgers.

>>4206 Yeah, the guns are just a prop. A safety blanket. It's so weird. Like they harp on and on about the second amendment without.. really.. thinking about why it's a thing. It rarely occurs to them why it exists. Obviously the implication is that it's for destroying their own government when it gets out of control. But they never will. They think it's just a hobby or for home defense or something banal like that.

>>4225 It doesn't make sense as an actual position. They are dependent on mainland China for water, electricity, food, and industry. Even if they were "liberated" they would still be functionally subservient unless the population of HK mass migrated to a place where they could actually sustain themselves.

>>4227 This is a very interesting point. An uninformed guess would point out that as an independent nation, HK could obtain those resources by trade, but I wonder, does China actually need anything HK can offer them when they have Shenzhen? Another thing to ponder is about the meaning of making China comply with the five demands. Sure it would be a big blow to China's ego, but the clock would just keeps tickling towards 2047, and that's when everything ends for HK.

i think a lot of people missunderstand these protests. People really want to view it in black and white. Yes China authoritarian and bad. Yes protesters fighting against this is obviously good. Yes American and imperialist powers want to use this is a proxy war. Of course they do! The age of the True grassroots revolution is long dead. In the spectacle, even rebellion is comodified. This thread is very clearly an example of this in action. It is impossible to seperate from the spectacle, the images become our reality. It doesn't really matter if the protests are real or whatever because we never experience the reality. All we can see is the image of the protest. The helmets and gass masks. The neon, the smoke. Anyone has to admit that a good amount of interest in this uprising in particular (as opposed to chile, haiti, iran, france, all of which have similar events) is because it LOOKS LIKE BLADE RUNNER. We have a pre-established cultural precedent for this story, from cyberpunk media and films. The aesthetics already have a social context through fiction. Don't missunderstand, I'm not insulting people for posting images. I'm not saying "heh, I'm above all of you only i have read debord". I'm saying it is IMPOSSIBLE for ANYONE to escape this. It's not a moral issue. The narrative pushed is that we should all be asking the question "which side is Right?" How do I understand revolt in relation to my identity? THAT is the power of the spectacle. Because our identity under spectacle, capitalism, modernity, whatever name you want to call it is intrinsically linked to the media and comodities we consume. There can't be a real revolution because everything gets turned into a series of images. If you want my opinion, any form of uprising against the state is good, the US may want to play the oportunist and twist it to their advantage but I don't know that mass movements are easily predictable like that. Also important to note that the protestors are not one homogenous group, there's a lot of people who probably have completely different philosophical or political motivations to protest. You could use the example that some right wing people dislike China because they think it's a communist country, and some left wing people dislike China because they think it's NOT a communist country. Even though there's a common enemy, the logic behind it is different. The spectacle doesn't allow for that sort of nuance since it isn't easy to turn into a story. The only people who can into these stories are essentially autists. The sort who like really complicated political narratives, something like a fan of Horizon on the middle of nowhere, or ledgend of the galactic heroes not for the main story line but just for the intricate political drama. Thus the autist becomes the new revolutionary subject. Anyway that's just a tangent. What i'm saying is we live in a society, don't trust anything, consider that political unrest has value in itself other than just as a means to an end.

>>4234 I mostly agree with you but >The age of the True grassroots revolution is long dead. I don't think thats a good characterization of what's happened. The American revolution was bankrolled by the French as a proxy war against the British empire. It was a convergence of grassroots rebellion and outside meddling. Powerful nations using revolution against their political adversaries is far from a new development.

>>4234 >There can't be a real revolution because everything gets turned into a series of images. what would you consider a REAL revolution? why does the fact that observers find the aesthetics of the protests conform to an easy narrative make it less of a real revolution?

>>4234 >The age of the True grassroots revolution is long dead. In the spectacle, even rebellion is comodified. I think you're interpreting and/or applying Guy Debord wrong here. Spectacle doesn't somehow delegitimize or abstract the protests into a state of non-existence, not on their end. Rather only at our end - i.e. those of us who are informed of them through images via the Wired and video via TV. To us, they are part of a "pseudo-world" of which we cannot and/or are not meant to take part in. To us the protests appear as something straight out of Blade Runner. While I can agree to an extent on your premise that the protests are turned into a simple story void of nuances, I can't see how or why this would prohibit us from revolting. If you meant it in the sense that it fosters or enhances the false-consciousness, then I might agree with you, but this isn't really a guarantee for it. Also, Baudrillard said that the Spectacle died a long time ago. Now it's the hyperreality, baby!

Here are some pics with protests and lasers so we can stay on topic https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2019/11/photos-lasers-discontent/602263/ There's already a thread of why everyone but you is a robot out there, feel free to make another one to discuss why posting Hitler with anime girls is supposed to be funny.

>>4252 Very nice!

>>4242 If we follow what Debord brought with the Spectacle, we also have to take into account what he said in the Commentaries that got published 30 years after the Society. An particularly the part where he explains that, whereas there were the concentrated spectacle (the East) and the diffused one (the West), they have since rejoined in what he calls the integrated Spectacle where the leading point of decision is most of the time hidden, but where all aspects of life and reality are influenced by the spectacle, in a even more totalitarian way than before. To put it simply, there is no "outside of the spectacle" anymore. And to paraphrase Tiqqun, "we can only escape inside the situation". The HK protests, as well as many others worlwide atm illustrate this extraordinarly well. You have in the same countries, the same cities, extremely engaged riots and a relentless pursuit by the police and its state of anyone not only guilty but even suspected of having sympathies for the riots ; and people/institutions able to vote and speak relatively freely about what they wish. From this point of view, the condition to apprehend properly these ruptures in the "normal course of things" without having the spectale commodifying it for us is to be ourselves part of a similar movement, and have ourselves a coherence between our discourse and our praxis.

HK is probably the second most cyberpunk place after Bangkok. But this is starting to seem kind of like propaganda eh

Shit is getting crazy man. Hong kong will collapse to anarchy soon.

>>4257 Oh soykaf, that would be cyberpunkest. John Carpenter's Escape from HK

Please keep on topic. If your post isn't providing visual media or isn't commenting on the visual media and instead discussing civil war, China or Hong Kong being better or any other political topic, then it doesn't belong in this thread. Some side discussion is fine, but it needs to be about the imagery and not politics or random opinions about the supposed suitability of the human condition the imagery expresses. Other rules in this thread that have been broken and have resulted in posts being deleted include Do not call for mods, or announce reports in a thread. Always argue in good faith and avoid using personal attacks. You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf. Don't respond with aggression to perceived flames or trolls (or at all.) Do not whine and cry about 8chan, lainchan.jp, "quality", "invasions", "new users", mods, bans, or kalyx outside of /q/. Do not spam or advertise unrelated content.

>>4038 They were talking about protesters hiding/moving around in the sewers because of the streets not being safe and all that came to mind was some kind of cyberpunk version of jin roh

>>4243 It's this stuff that makes the CIA stories plausible. Like how the hell are they that much better equipped than every other protest movement including those in wealthy nations? If you look at the Yellow Vest or BLM then at HK it is night and day. The whole thing just feels off and you have to question where the money that produces the constant photo ops and pro quality media\equipment is coming from.

>>4279 the CIA has a long history of doing this kind of thing. Note that this doesn't mean that the protests are somehow invalid or fake. Generally they try to amplify and aid existing sentiments. It's really hard to create fake opposition in another country, but really easy to help existing opposition.

>>4279 In what ways are the HK protesters better equipped?

>>4279 Yeah they are extremely well equipped. But that comes from a) a huge base willing to go fight or support those who clash with the police 2) a highly technological nation that uses the web to organize, and better than just fb/twitter 3) cheap access to most of the materials that compose their equipment You quoted the yellow vests. They are far less people involved in this movement, they do not battle the police where they live, and there has been over the last year entire areas of cities under police control that prevented most of this equipment to simply be brought. So far, french police is worse than the HK one, in term of violence as well as in term of social control and preventive control (like there has been thousands of preventive arrests and even prison sentences based on the suspicion of taking part of a group in which people might have wanted to take part in rioting). tl;dr they're better equipped because they're better organised, more numerous and fight on their ground. I don't think the CIA played any significant role in this.

>>4282 Just look at the pictures. Hunting bows, full mask, helmets\hardhats, full body padding, and backpacks with most things excluding the hunting bows appearing on hundreds of people. That's before you get the basic stuff like the signs and printing and judging by the photo quality at least a few decent DSLRs to get these stable night time high movement shots. It also appears most of them are teens\students. I'm just saying anybody who has tried to organize this type of thing knows how crazy expensive it can get very fast even for a very basic protest. What's happening in HK is basically unheard of. There is no way this is grassroots.

>>4284 It's also been going on for a number of months. They've had time to organize.

>>4284 You've obviously never been to a campus during student council elections. My college had to enforce spending limits on campaigns, with reporting requirements, because the students would spend tens of thousands on signage, and chalk up entire walkways.

>>4285 The time span is actually part of what convinces me this isn't grass roots. For example during the US civil rights movement they cycled the kids of the protesters in and out so the protest could continue without the parents bankrupting themselves and so the kids could still get an education. That doesn't seem to be what's happening here, it's all super young people all the time with no obvious income supporting all this. The cost only go up over time and if you look at the photos their equipment and clothes look brand new over a span of months.

>>4286 Consider what you just said for a second. Tens of thousands to do nothing more than chalk and sign a few small areas for a meaningless campus election.

>>4287 Sure it is. Did you expect them to go in work uniforms?

>>4288 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did while typing that, mate.

>>4290 Then think of how that would scale if you tried to do it to entire city blocks for months at a time in a much more ambitious and active movement. It doesn't make sense.

>>4288 Exactly my point. If they're willing to spend this much to get on the council (do note, getting on the council is a paid position. It's a paltry sum though, you're looking at ~$30,000 if you're the Treasurer), but you think they're going to be frugal when their very freedoms and way of life come under attack, then you need to reassess your position.

>>4289 Well, there is kind of a reason photos from all the other major protest movements over the last century largely show people in street clothes or work clothes.

>>4292 It's not a matter of frugality. It's just that the vast majority of people who carry out this type of protest don't have an infinite money well to draw from.

>>4294 Yes, I'm sure you can tell where any protester works at a glance in any other major protest. And I'm sure the anonymity has nothing at all to do with the ubiquitous facial recognition implements. Nothing at all.

>>4295 I doubt that very much. Somalians rolled around in technicals. I think a few students, able to afford university in Hong Kong, one of the most expensive cities on the planet, can definitely afford some gas masks and bows and arrows.

>>4297 Wait, do you think the people protesting are the wealthy in HK? The wealthy have been begging the CCCP to clean it up and get their tourism back. None of the extradition stuff even effects them.

This beautiful thread is bleeding...

>>4284 The bows were stolen from university archery clubs.

>>4315 Incredible photos, what camera do you use?

>>4317 KC501 camera, a rather nice camera for the price and captures really nicely those low lighting shots you see in the street lights and from others protestors lighting Shame how they had only pink version when I went to buy it so I had to wait for blue one

I visited HK a few months before the protests started....all these pictures are so bizarre

>>4205 This is probably the best portrait of the US I've ever read, as well as much of the Western world. I think we need to prepare to deal with this sort of stuff and not even that far from now. >>4206 The West is going to soykaf either way. It will either run into the ground thanks to everyone's compliance or what you said will happen and we'll end up with actual Nazis at the helm. There's a lot of extremism brewing because the West is just censoring and sweeping everything under the rug instead of doing serious politics. You can't do politics on fuarrrking Twitter forever. It just doesn't work.

>>4234 I think a key reason to people's interest is that China is involved here, and China is a very big player unlike the other protests. Yes it's true that this is gathering interest because it looks like a cyberpunk movie, but I'd take people becoming interested in HK because it looks like Blade Runner than the normal people IRL I tried to talk to about this event having a laugh and saying "why the masks, they all rook same". I'm sorry but you are being way too optimistic by thinking real interest and the spectacle are intertwined. There is only the spectacle because people, at large, don't really care, as sadly everything is entertainment to Westerners and entertainment will be until something ugly will happen at their doorstep. The protesters are incredibly well organized and equipped. The photos look like organized guerrilla. I have seen photos where they take down the facial recognition poles, can someone shed some information on those? What kind of tech is China using, and who is providing them with the data? Sorry about the slightly off topic commentary but it's hard not to think about this situation coming to the West in the future.

>>4038 Thanks for the thread op it is great.

>>4546 Welcome!

>>4580 What's up with the frog? Why are they using it?

>>4582 Don't question it. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/10/03/hong-kong-protesters-transform-alt-right-pepe-frog-pro-democracy-symbol/

>>4583 >alt-right Pepe Huh? Is it? I mean infinity was far right, 4 is probably too, but I've never thought the frog is political at all. Maybe because my country is generally right wing, so chans were left wing - memes were anti-religious, etc. >Don't question it. I'm just wondering why did this happen.

>>4584 Its because of 4chan and the 2016 US election. Pepe was the hot meme and the news ran with it as a way to gaslight the public that there are "nefarious dark web chat rooms" that are threatening democracy by using an innocuous image to spread a message that isnt approved by CNN. Along with its refusal to die as a meme Pepe has become a grassroots symbol for peacefully demonstrating against a tyrannical state in one form or another.

>>4585 Funny how 4chan went full-retard in 2014-2016. Almost like someone used 4chan for political propaganda. A few years back and we were Occupying Wall Street, funny. Funny how you can see p0l rising just after Moot stepped down, on google trends. >Pepe was the hot meme and the news ran with it as a way to gaslight the public that there are "nefarious dark web chat rooms" that are threatening democracy by using an innocuous image to spread a message that isnt approved by CNN If you were around before 2014 you would remember it was always the case. Remember the exploding van scene from fox news? Medias (not just CNN lol) always represented imageboards as bad/edgy/dark/dangerous. Now that they did it people who joined after were people who saw 4chan on TV and think it's a site dedicated to being bad or trolling. You all see pepe as something new (and to be honest it was heavily used by alt right so they were not really wrong about it) but it's just what medias always did. Right or left winged. I guess it's mainstream to point CNN without pointing other channels who are doing the same thing. 乁( ･ 〰 ･ )ㄏ

>>4586 Ill have you know, lain, that I am an original product of the internet hate machine. The consequence were never the same after 10/1/2003

>>4586 >Almost like someone used 4chan for political propaganda. If anything, black propaganda. People don't realize that on imageboards, it's easy as hell to pretend you're someone you're not, to sockpuppet, and to play the strawman. If you can make an anonymous board the home of an ideology you dislike, you've won; all you have to do now is astroturf stupid ideas there. The dumbest people among them will take those ideas to heart, and you can then go and screencap them and be all "haha look at the people-i-don't-agree-with who believe this dumb thing".

>>4589 There are 2 interesting ideas to it. 1. is once you start a movement, others will hop on and keep it running without you 2. is for every movement there will be a counter-movement and they will radicalize each other further. larping as the enemy is recruiting for yourself. No matter which side you feed, you fan the conflict and push both sides simultaneously.

Just so a few more people know, and because it came up here, Pepe goes back to 2005: >Pepe's creator has expressed his dismay at Pepe being used as a hate symbol and has sued organisations for doing so.[11] >Hong Kong protestors began to use depictions of Pepe the Frog as a symbol of liberty and resistance against the extradition bill and police brutality in the 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests. New images of Pepe the Frog surfaced showing Pepe with an injured eye after a young female first aider got her eye gouged by a projectile thrown by police and spurred a new protest campaign called "An eye for an eye". A sign with Pepe with an injured eye held by a young nurse with one eye covered gained international media attention.[96] Furie responded in an email with a protester, stating "This is great news! Pepe for the people!".[97][98] In the Hong Kong context, Pepe the Frog is not perceived as being connected with right-wing ideology.[96][99] Hong Kongers are generally unaware of the connotations of Pepe the Frog in the United States.[100]

>>4593 Had a late night laugh at "Pepe is for the people", glad the HKers have taste in memes. I never understood edgy Pepe.

>>4593 wow...feels good man is pushing for greatest meme of all time

This is a pretty old one of one of the first days of protest. It isn't quite an image, it also doesn't quite have that cyberpunk vibe. But it is honestly one of the most amazing videos of the protest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCyrJTmUpNQ

Shit is still crazy over there... Found a good documentary that came out recently about the protests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tufv4Zpm0JU

>>4611 Nice!

https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10933-what_the_world_can_learn_from_hongkong some strategies of the hong kong protestors outlined in a very informative talk at c3 (90 min)

>>4205 >>4543 >This is probably the best portrait of the US I've ever read ditto

>>4252 this is top notch

>>4264 Gravity is a big fuarrrking problem for the cyberpunk vision. Moving upwards requires energy as constrained by physics. Gravitational potential is expensive to gain and wasteful to waste, so transportation should mostly occur in a same gravitational potential level. This (safety aside) this imposes great limitations to the practicality of jetpack and flycars technology. Also to structure building. As a consequence, cities consist on a single relatively leveled horizontal transportation space, and localized mini-levels in buildings (for mostly stationary purposes). The underground level has maintenance-tier capacity for transportation. Cities are also organized and built in times of social rest, when there's little motive to even think outside of this optimal scheme (not to mention city planners are not going to account for help for protesters) Peace-time accounting for drone services and messaging is the only thing I could imagine could introduce new levels and air-ways into city planning.

>>4240 >I have nothing to loose >I have no stake in the society This hit so close to home, though probably not meant that way

>>4679 >that first pic A chink, scared enough, opens his eyes

Are there more pictures but with infographics about tactics and equipment?

Beautiful pictures of a carefully instigated and instrumentalized protest. Weaponized dissent is truly cyberpunk.

It's the epitome of cyberpunk. 100% aesthetic with no potential for material change where the apex of any given effort is just to act as a condom when some oligarch decides to fuarrrk over another. Whole thing is such a goddamn farce.

>>4814 POTTERY

>>4818 P-pepe? Why are they using it even?

>>4818 Holy crap. Where can I buy those protestor action figures?

wth is going on with the protests, and why the pepe thing involved?

>>4819 >>4821 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/world/asia/hong-kong-protest-pepe-frog.html Not the best source but it's one of the first results, Pepe is used as a mascot/symbol for HK protestors. I don't think they really know or care for it's usage in western politics, probably just picked it because it's the funny face internet frog.

>>4822 It's a statement about recovering the good things anonymous stood for, in a context of a government eager to destroy the concept of anonymity.

>>4820 https://www.hongkongfp.com/2020/01/05/cockroach-goods-hong-kong-figurine-store-brings-protest-scenes-life/ https://www.kghobby.com/made-in-hong-kong-mihk-001-1-6-hongkongers-action-figure/

Umbrella Revolution? It's the Umbrella Corporation Revolution now. Corona-chan has escaped from a Chinese bio-weapons lab.

>>4822 pepe, doesn't have the same connotation with the alt-right that it does in the west. It's a pro democracy symbol in hongkong

"Free Hong Kong! ^_^" chanted Corona-Chan as she visited Taipei on the mainland.

>>4862

HKFP Lens: ‘Cyberpunk is not Dead’ – photographer Michael Kistler explores Hong Kong’s after-dark neon glow >https://www.hongkongfp.com/2020/01/24/hkfp-lens-cyberpunk-not-dead-photographer-michael-kistler-explores-hong-kongs-dark-neon-glow/

>>4862 Kind of how a certain cartoon bear in a running pose wasn't necessarily a pedophile when he was originally conceived of in Japanese forums, despite the name English speaking users gave him.

>>4939 Kinda amusing it keeps happening in a more mature internet and globalization process. Feel like if I would try to make viral a similar change of meaning of a foreign think it wouldn't catch on and I would just get quickly corrected.

>>4586 From before 2014 here. I started using 4chan constantly back in 2009 and while they always loved drama the pepe/wojak meme is so dry that it's just a reflection of how the site can only spam itself. 4chan hates pepe/wojak. Ergo they post it because newglitterboys WILL bump the thread. They don't even check the replies, they just watch the bait threads go up and down on the catalog feeling powerful. I've studied such behavior on modern chans. The OP won't even respond to the posters and only makes threads but never comments. Like a BOT. Suddenly they BOT posting became seemingly right winger bait tier when the US presidency allowed it's more powerful side to take control, the right wingers. They are all cops, and now majority power in politics, so a BOT spread the meme. No OP would be that childish as to NEVER respond. If you want attention why wouldn't you click into your own threads? It's because the OP can't respond because the OP is not human. It was part of the political PR campaigns. They used psychology to get people to childishly vote for right wingers just to piss off black people for all the black bait that was being posted, numale memes, etc. It tires to get the normal 4chan user, as in newglitterboy ignorant masses, to want to hate left winger tier personality. It forces them to vote right. They did this because no everyone watches the news nor participates in normalglitterboy sheep sites but it is common knowledge that 4chan has it's own influences over the Internet. Political owned bots forced pepe right winger.

>>5167 These are recent photos, right? So despite the looming thread of corona, they still keep going with their protesting?

>>5169 >go allll the way onto lainchan >people still spout normalfaggy drama Corona isn't even that bad and hardly anyone has died from it. Stop it already. I'm getting sick of block elementing every time the Internet trolls me with this kinda soykaf. No one with sense cares.

>>5170 >spout normalfaggy drama I fail to see what makes my question "normalfaggy drama" when it was a genuine question. I havent heard any news from the HK protests in 2-3 months now, so I've been wondering that perhaps it had something to do with the threat of corona virus in China.

>>5173 You're wasting your time here! I'm not going to report this or anything you say to my peers. From the news or TV, or anybody. You're not going to get infectious!

>>4128 The real problem with the US, is that the citizens are extremely well armed, and the police know it. Because of the military training the police receive, the cops in the US will draw their guns first, and start asking questions later. This leaves protesters with only two options. 1.Get hit by tear gas and rubber bullets, tasers, maybe even a shoulder shot from a real gun, then get arrested, and put in jail for YEARS, (not having done anything to hurt anyone) OR 2.Citizens pull our their guns when the cops do, it will inevitably become an absolute bloodbath. There will be no turning back. When a flashpoint comes, and cops start firing on groups of armed OR unarmed Americans, it will be fuarrrking full blown civil war in a week or two. Tens of thousands of deaths in the first month.

>>5169 Yes, these are recent.

>>5177 Why so mad?

be prepared to stand wherever you are

>>5216 What do you mean with stand? Stand against something?

>>5221 I believe that lainon just likes standing a lot and is recommending it to everyone, even to protestors in Hong Kong.

>>5222 Yeah, but he said it as kind of a cryptic warning, which is kinda edgy.

Hong Kong has the spirit necessary to overthrow the evil Chinese empire, at least in their neck of the woods. I spend a fair amount of time in mainland China, and there's a lot of rumbling. People are becoming dissatisfied with the status quo, given all the oppression. I think it's likely we'll see an overturning of the regime in the next decade. It'll be painful and bloody, but they're very capable people who will restate the rights of the individual and make a better broader society.

>>5225 honestly i have much more faith in the Chinese to get things fuarrrking done, than I do in Americans. We've been trained into complacency and isolation. The Chinese have retained their make-it-fuarrrking-work spirit. They understand struggle and the power of the collective in a way that Americans(and many Europeans) do not..

>>5226 >>5225 This is naive. Chinese communist party has the most potent, pervasive, and capable totalitarianism ever conceived. Any rablerousers quickly get the kebash.

>>5227 and yet they can't hold back the Hong Kong riots.

>>5203 cuz media exploitation can end a meme war irl if we spread those memes, true or not here... we weaken our cause by depending on external establishments for biological radiological or chemical threat assessment. ... wen dey can simply lie.

take health threats seriously in fact.. more seriously than normal people have more extreme feelings about health and safety violations that said careful what you stop mindful who told you what which made you want to stop

>>5228 Hong Kong isn't completely under their control.

you stop being funny

>>5203 >>5235 to explain >>5177 's mentality... they worry about market manipulation

Are these protests still going on? Did corona chan put an end to them?

>>5763 They are. But covid is making it much easyer for the police to crack down on these protests. They can now arrest people under covid laws, and their crackdowns can be much more violent since media attention is focussed on something else now.

>>5763 most of the bloc's core members went to other countries because of the police getting more and more close to arresting all of them. That was mostly after PolyU, because there were many injuries at this battle if you're interested, a few telegram channels : some exiled bloc members run this : https://t.me/BlackBlocHongKong lots of protest news here : https://t.me/canigosomeplacefun

>>5758

>>5810 That's hilarious if they're really using telegram as a way of communicating.