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Discuss (good) films and such. Lately I have seen Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive and Jacob's Ladder. Mulholland had a dreamlike atmosphere, and had some really nice bloom. Now it seems Lynch will never disclouse the intended symbolism or thoughts, but as usual leaving it for the audience to decide, though I believe it to be some schizo stuff. The other Lynch was quite different though, Blue Velvet ran more like some hero, coming of age film, but still good with that damn catchy song. Yesterday: Jacob's Ladder had these really christian motives, but fell flat to me as he had been dead, or unconcious the hole time. Though it was nice with the angel leading him up. Overall it had themes of schizo-paranoia with a government conspiracy, good movie. What have you seen lately?

>>519 Watched Blue Velvet with a friend a few days ago, not a mindblowing experience or anything, but a good watch. Felt quite tame at points by today's standards, not that it would've necessarily benefited from added shock factor or anything. The song(s) were indeed catchy and I find myself (trying to) sing Blue Velvet every now and then. Been somewhat longer since I saw Mulholland Drive or Jacob's Ladder, but I have to say I liked Jacob's Ladder a bit better generally speaking. Might be just me remembering the movie wrong, but I remember feeling that Mulholland Drive was about a movie being filmed inside a movie, what with the characters having different names etc. Or was it outright stated in the movie? Also watched Naked Lunch and Brazil not too long ago and liked both. Alejandro Jodorowsky's Endless Poetry is probably the best movie I've recently seen though, and I wholeheartedly recommend his entire filmography (although I've yet to see a few of the earlier films). Another recent watch was Vertigo and while it is pretty much universally praised I was hugely disappointed by it, to the point of me wanting to just turn the movie off halfway trough. The characters felt paper thin and unreal, the pacing didn't feel good (the first hour seemed to drag on for forever) and the ending left me in disbelief as to how anyone could take the movie seriously.

Mulholland Drive has been thoroughly analyzed. You can find some pretty good articles about it. See, Mulholland Dr. is the road leading up to Hollywood, and riding up there in a limo is a symbol for "having made it" and completing your dreams of stardom. The movie is about these youthful dreams falling apart. I did find a pretty lengthy article about the movie but I didn't agree with all of its conclusions. Some scenes and symbols, I believe, are basically just revenge fantasies come to life and they don't need to be analyzed much further than that.

>>521 Yeah, not hard to find actually. They shed -some- light on a couple of things, but still, there are many loose ends, though it's not a bad thing in my book. That description of the limo was an 'aha' for me. >>520 You should read the book Naked Lunch, a fun trip. I agree on Vertigo about how 'meh' it was compared to the praise it got. Having seen half of El Topo and some of The holy mountain, and not getting a thing of its bizarre visuals, it kind of feels a bit above my head in terms of enjoyment. Maybe some day they will be played once more. It is only Kenneth Angers movies that are way above, but having great visuals paired with fitting music, that I can feel something that keeps me hanging around for more, though they are short and with no spoken dialogue. Not hard to see how he helped create the 'music videos'.

>>519 I agree with you on Jacob's Ladder. I remember becoming less and less captivated as it came to a close and then being let down by the ending. One recent movie that stuck out to me was Buffalo '66. It had a very graceful sense of being, with visual experimentations that, for the most part, felt very natural, allowing it to remain grounded in its characters and plot. I found the movie looking through Christina Ricci's filmography and then became interested in Vincent Gallo and picked up a cheap DVD copy of "Get Well Soon", but it was bland indie dribble. I want to see The Brown Bunny but the Chloe Sevigny blowjob meme lights up in my brain whenever I think of it. I also read about how much of a dick the guy is, but I can't help loving his natural energy/talent. I also saw Go!, which I think is vastly underappreciated and by far Doug Liman's best work. I love Sarah Polley and this is my favorite role she has done. It got a lot of comparison to Pulp Fiction when it came out, and it does follow a narrative structure in a similar style, but I don't think that's a just reason to write it off.

>>529 There's a deleted scene from Jacob's Ladder that blows most other scenes out of the water. No idea why they cut it out. I personally thought the ending was okay in its eventual form, yet I'm pretty sure it could have been more powerful with more of this footage. Scariest Jacob's Ladder Deleted Scene or something on yubtub.

The film Robinson Crusoe on Mars, seemed to be okay just skimming wikipedia, but actually watching it, felt stupid. More like actors in space than astronauts with training. And a fuarrrking revolver, in space? Though it was only for twenty minutes, bad rendering on soykafty device. Jean-Luc Godards Breathless was a good one. Really had a style reflecting the production, improvised. >>529 That Gallo seems to have some interesting art. Buffalo '66 looks like it's worth a shot.

>>570 > And a fuarrrking revolver, in space? Why not?

Couldn't watch Mulholland Drive. Very bad movie, in my opinion. Everyone seems to like Lynch works, but I don't think he's that genial. >What have you seen lately? The thin red line (1998) and Arrival. Both good movies. Can't suggest more the work of Lars von Trier (especially Dogville and Dancer in the Dark) and also the Tarkovisky ones (Stalker). I like also the Christopher Nolan movies, like Inception and Interstellar.

Just watched Mulholland Dr, it was pretty good. There's this really good french movie up on Netflix right now called Cosmos, based on the Gombrowicz book. I don't even remember how I ended up finding it but I thought it was pretty damn good.

>>571 Actually, I would imagine this being a requirement as discharging brass could pose as a hazard in a delicate environment, such as a cockpit in near-zero gravity. Though, looking into Air Marshal requirements which is the closest I can think of in real-world, they carry SIG Sauer P229 and SIG Sauer P239 (and I suspect this will change to the new P320). I thought the ammunition they use is a special frangible type to mitigate fuselage puncture, but they stopped using that in the 80's allegedly and use regular ammo now. Oddly, I found that US astronauts carried space machetes, switchblades, and a cool Emerson pocket knife.

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>>571 That actually makes sense, the things stopping guns from working in vacuum would be lubricant freezing, and metal parts shrinking and expanding and jamming, so you'd want the least moving parts possible. Like, a Colt Single-Action Army made out of the hyperalloys they build scramjet spikes from. >>603 Cosmonauts used to carry the TP-82, which was a crazy triple-barrelled pistol with two 40-gauge barrels, and one 5.45×39mm, and a stock that doubled as a machete. But then the ammunition it used expired, so they went back to a semi-auto.

I just saw The Mist today. At first I thought it was kind of boring until about halfway as the situation in the market begins to progress for the worst. The zealot was so annoying, and I thought the CGI was pretty dated, but it didn't detract much from the mystery of the monsters much. But goodness that ending. I had heard good things about the ending but never spoiled it for myself and I am so glad I didn't. I didn't see it coming until it was just about to happen and even then I was hoping I was wrong. Overall I really enjoyed it. I saw it in color and read online the B&W version gives it a better feel.

The Double (2013) - Fantastic movie (ignore the ratings). Great lighting, great camera work, great actors. Very dystopian vibe. I recommend anyone who plans to watch this to avoid reading the description for the film. Just trust me on this one. It's not super abstract and it's not boring. This is currently my favourite movie. Holy Motors - Weird French film. Probably the weirdest film I've watched in a long time, maybe ever. If you liked the way Primer (another great movie) didn't spoonfeed you the plot, you'll love Holy Motors. However this movie is quite artsy/weird. Best not to watch with your family or with anyone for that matter. Also, DON'T look up the plot or read the summary for this movie. I know I said it above but this applies twice as much for Holy Motors. Not even the IMBD description. Pi - The most cyberpunk movie out of all three. Shot in B&W, it's also a pretty weird movie. If you're the type of person who knows a lot about maths then prepare to cringe a bit to all the "muh golden spiral" and fibonacci stuff. Other than that it's pretty great. Think Mr. Robot but actually decent :v) Someone watch any or all of these three films and then recommend me one (similar/relevant to the one you watched) >>519 I haven't watched any of these but I might check out Mulholland Dr. since it sound the best. >>606 Yeah the CGI threw me off and made me stop watching as soon as the tentacles appeared so I didn't get very far in the movie. I might try watching it again in B&W though.

>>603 Air Marshal's have the most retarded weapon selection of any federal agency; I should know, I used to be federal LE and went through the special course to be allowed to carry on a plane. And have never set foot on a commercial flight. The Sig P229 is fine; I carried one myself for a while. But they chose .357 Sig for the caliber, on the basis that it gets excellent penetration. But then they decided it got TOO MUCH penetration and went with frangible ammunition to avoid over-penetration. They're not worried about puncturing the hull and depressurizing the aircraft (it would take a bomb to make a big enough hole), they're worried about shooting a bad guy and having the bullet pass through and hit a passenger behind him. Frangible bullets, while far less effective on bad guys than a simple hollowpoint, also won't ricochet off a hard surface and potentially hit a nearby innocent. The selection of .357 Sig as the caliber of choice was stupid for more than just the "oops, it penetrates too much, let's use a less effective bullet to compensate" nonsense; the caliber itself is problematic. Performance-wise, it doesn't do anything a properly-designed 9mm +P or +P+ wouldn't do equally well, and the larger case (it's a .40 S&W necked down to hold a 9mm bullet) reduces magazine capacity. .357 Sig also has snappier recoil, brighter muzzle flash, and the angle of the neck on the case is such that bullet setback is a serious issue. Chambering a round repeatedly, such as many people do when they don't shoot a gun for extended periods of time but clean and maintain it, can push the bullet further and further back into the case, which increases the pressure inside the case, which increases the pressure in the chamber, which can damage or destroy the gun. It's a gimmick caliber, and you'll notice the only law enforcement agencies that use it are the ones who jumped on the bandwagon when it first came out and are now stuck using it because switching to a different caliber would be too expensive. And the Air Marshals are still using frangible ammunition. Regular hollowpoints are also available, but standard issue ammo is frangible. >>605 >Colt SAA >Least moving parts possible You DO realize that automatic pistols are mechanically simpler and have far fewer moving parts than a revolver, right? You also don't have to worry so much about the lubricant freezing as having it boil away in the vacuum. There are ways around this, such as using graphite lubricant... except graphite is a major no-no in a spacecraft because it gets everywhere and conducts electricity; exactly the sort of stuff you don't want floating into delicate electronic components (or your lungs). You can use an unlubricated automatic pistol in space and have it work just fine, so long as it's broken in and the slide rails are nice and polished; you would probably want nickel-plated cartridges since they have less friction and would extract more reliably in an unlubricated gun. Building the gun out of steel super alloys isn't necessary; modern firearm steels, particularly with a nitride finish and chrome-lined bore, would be able to handle extremes of cold and heat just fine. The only thing you'd want to avoid is stainless steel, since it can be brittle at low temperatures and has a higher friction coefficient, which can make them unreliable without lubrication (fun fact: stainless steel handguns actually have the slide made of a different steel than the frame to prevent galling. This is also why you can't make the gun out of titanium; titanium is BAD about galling. The temperature differences in space, going from cold shadow to hot, direct sunlight, can be mitigated the same way they handle direct sunlight on spacecraft, spacesuits, etc.: paint it white. The main issue is going to be waste heat from firing the gun; there's no air to conduct the heat to, so you're relying solely on conducting heat into the palm of the spacesuit holding the gun, and radiation, which is far slower. Using a high-grade steel with a nitride finish, lining the bore with hard chrome, and using a thick, fluted barrel (to increase surface area for radiation/conduction and to provide more metal to absorb heat) should keep it manageable; you're not going to be doing a lot of shooting in a space environment, after all. The whole purpose of bringing a gun into space is to use it if you crashland in the wilderness and get stranded. As for ejecting brass in the cockpit, while this would be a concern (easily handled by putting a brass catcher on the gun), the main concern would be the BULLETS flying in the cockpit. If you're firing a gun in the cockpit of a spacecraft, you're either suicidally stupid or things have gotten REALLY bad. Also, the TP-82 was actually 32-gauge, not 40. The Russian's could easily just produce more ammo for it (it also doubled as a flare gun), but because cosmonauts aren't landing in the Siberian wilderness and fighting off bears and wolves anymore, they decided the Makarov was a sufficient survival weapon.

>>611 The gyrojet would be the most logical weapon for astronauts to use. Lightweight, the rocket-propelled bullets produce almost no recoil, there's no spent brass to worry about, and the only moving parts are the trigger, sear, and hammer. Since the waste heat produced by firing the gun is expelled as rocket exhaust, no issues with the gun overheating. And shooting a .50-caliber rocket bullet is just awesome.

>>607 I had read one of the advantages to the b&w version was that the CGI didn't look as bad. It's supposed to give it a 50s monster B-movie type of feel as well.

>>611 The soviets had some sort of funky flashbulb laser pistol didn't they?

>>614 Yes, they did. Each shot was powered by a flash cube (cylinder, in this case) that had to be manually loaded and ejected. It wasn't powerful enough to do any damage, the intent was to temporarily blind the cameras on a satellite or space station so cosmonauts could board and take over. It wasn't very good even for that, so they ditched it. A modern laser pointer is more powerful.

Watched There Will Be Blood last night. Was really well-done and Day-Lewis' performance was monstrous.

>>628 I heard somewhere that when they blew up the well, they were filming The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford nearby and they had to stop for a couple of days until the smoke cleared.

>>527 the irony of a lynch movie is it's use of symbolism inspires the viewer to dig deeper for answers, but it's dreamscape production means many ends will remain loose - closure will often be lacking. Dreams end abruptly, imagery is often arbitrary, etc. So Lynch does something many other great artists do, he incorporates strange imagery and happenings, idiosyncratic activity on screen, to draw you into conclusions, when in reality there may never be any. And the "may never", that ambiguity, is where his cult arises, where the effectiveness of his work is truly seen. Ultimately Mulholland becomes as deep or shallow as you're willing to make it. I believe the movie was intended to be a pilot, was killed mid production, and Lynch recut it into what we got. What I read it as was a girl living out her fantasy in her last moments of dying, where she killed her because her life was so unlike what she imagined it would be. It was an idealized version of what she experienced, details altered to protect her ego and love. It's spiritual in this way, metaphysical even. Similar to Enter the Void with it's Out of Body experience. I picture the movie as flashing for an instant when Naomi Watts killed herself, but the metaphysical nature of her soul let her experience the entire life she was yearning for.

>>527 Also, Holy Mountain is worth finishing, because it gets hilarious in it's second half. Intentionally funny, that is

>>636 I never thought I was funny for someone... It's actually very deep. The ending was so fuarrrking unexpected to me, that was shocking. The usage of metalanguage is very good in this movie.

Mute films. First I was a bit hesitant to watch them, because they seemed obscure, but the emotions, they're much stronger and better performed when there's no audio (except music). Körkarlen (The Phantom Carriage) (1921) Quite good music, so-so story. Adapted from a book by Selma Lagerlöf it takes you through a mans life of miserable choices and it's consequences on him, and his family. Also it inspired Ingmar Bergman heavily on his films, mostly seen in The Seventh Seal, and Kubrick's The Shining aswell. Dr. Caligari's Cabinet (1920) Really interesting art, with dreamlike twistedness. I mean it was really something unmatched, looked and felt like a play on a scene but larger. Plot twist is eye opening and explains most of the bizarre. Metropolis (1927) A part of the german expressionism era in cinema, so was the one above, with unique 'large-scale' shots of the beautiful art déco city. Sometimes a bit cliché plot, and that wild robo-dance irked me the wrong way but the beauty! First sci-fi film. Fellini's Satyricon (1969) Not a mute film, instead a surreal gay roman bro adventure. Ascyltius! recommends. >>607 Watched Pi and The Double, but not Holy Motors, even though it lays on the harddrive. Pi was really fuarrrking good, the conspiracy vibes man, with a sling of constant paranoia. Looked real good too. Can't really think of anything that similar, except Blow Up by Michelangelo, it's only vaguely resembling but a good watch none the less. As for The Double, it was a real miserable guy, but then soykaf started creep up on me with this 'worthlessness', until I read it was based on Dostoevsky's literature. Visuals were good here, the environment really felt hostile to the poor man. Recommendation: Taxi Driver? maybe Welcome to the NHK, even though it's an anime. As for the revolver in space, it mostly looked weird and I had not thought about the physics, a slip of the shallow mind.

>>874 >>874 Thanks for watching them!! Glad someone actually took my recommendations. And yes, the best part about The Double is the lighting and setting. They nailed that so well. I'll check out Taxi Driver. I've only watched Metropolis out of those three, and I really enjoyed that one too (the dancing was hilarious tho)

>>874 Are these movies available on public trackers?

>>890 Well, I wouldn't consider Taxi Driver that similar, but it shares some themes. Like Drive perhaps, though the plot imo was too bland, comes with a half redeemeing great soundtrack on the other hand real homan bean. Taxi Driver is much darker, heavier (as The Double), with great camera work and colour. >>891 Yes they are, can take some time though with low seed and bluray size.

>>641 call it very deep if you'd like, I'm sure there's a lot I didn't understand, but once the movie gets into describing the tarot characters, it's jokes all the way through. Reminds me of Lynch a lot actually, someone who's projects on the outside seem obscure and complex, but once you start watching them you spend more time laughing than anything. Lynch has a very good sense of humor, he's even had an arc on Louie.

>>891 These aren't some rare, forgotten films Lain. You'll find them anywhere. They should actually be considered public domain by now anyway, probably streaming somewhere perfectly legal.

>>519 Heathers? The movie, I mean. I'm going to check out the movies posted in this thread though and possibly watch them. I'll be back.

I just watched tron for the first time since I was a kid and it seemed so much better than I remember. I guess its cause I know the cyberpunk themes going through it. and more technical things about computers but It also seemed to have an almost AI story to it. >Create AI that can rewrite itself >Eventually rewrites other programs >Makes other AI's for better security and proccessing. Especially how the IO ports seem to be "old" AI I would expect it would do that first. Then the best logic code is in flynn's video games so it adopts that "architecture". It feels like it's almost got something but got rewritten by some hollywood suit.

Tetsuo - The iron man Shot in b & w in 1989. Has some real bizarre sequences with demon anal rape and Cronenberg like techno bodyhorror. Photography seemed mostly to be hand held, shaky type, though good non the less. The sound though is the best in this film, the scratching on metal, metal to metal and of course the soundtrack. Supposed to be one of the first Japanese cyberpunk defining movies, even though Akira comes before. But I really saw some liknesses to, our, much beloved Lain series. A must watch for cyberpunk likers. Blade Runner 2049 Okay sequel, t'was good, not perfect but not bad either. Felt like some characters were a bit to similair to earlier roles, like Gosling reminded me of himself in Drive while Ford had some not-too-unlike-him jokes. And fuarrrking Zimmerman the ruiner made the music that was SO unique. >>909 Dunno about it, describe what you think it makes good. Also, has anyone here used Filmstruck?

>>573 I honestly think you have pretty bad taste

>>1129 Blade runner definitely had a few issues, most of which I'm hoping will be fixed by the post-theater release similar to the original's final/director's cuts as it definitely felt tampered with somehow. But what a fuarrrking vibe it was... I could easily overlook all its flaws for how well the world was constructed. Sure the CGI was good but it was the concepts and the detailwork that I found so fascinating. Doesn't make it perfect. Just makes it worth seeing. I've already seen it twice, and I'll probably go a third before it leaves theaters.

>>1129 >heathers other anon. You know teen highschool movies like breakfast club etc? Heathers is like 2000 deconstruction of that type of movies, only it was made in like 1988. Also it injects very dark comedy into all of that. And how media sensationalises teen-suicide. Clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Z1pZhUYDc

I just rewatched Avalon, The sound track (kenji kawaii) is probably one of my favorite things about the movie, paired with the cyberpunk atmosphere of grungy uneventful lives being contrasted with the glory of digital combat in a matrix-esqe immersion video game, and the philosophy of what is real. Stalker is another great movie, but it can be slow at times, tarkovsky made the movie do the book (roadside picknic) justice in my opinion, even though many of the cast died from being poisoned by chemicals from a chemical plant that was near the film set.

>>1213 Avalon was released 16 years ago and i'm still baffled how Oshii just decided to shoot a movie in my soykafty homeland and cast a melodrama starlet as a main character makes me wanna watch it again

>>1215 tbqh i thought it was a fitting role, mainly because of the confusion induced by "is this the real life" mind set that the game induces to an extent that playing the game is how they get money for food, like a job, which goes deeper into the meaning of when does a game become a job or vice versa, also I think that the location is just a unique and individual setting which is better than recycled tokyo / NY or other big city

I'm considering watching The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari tonight, but I also feel like I need something more light-hearted and easier to watch. Last few movies I've watched have been a little abstract and intense (The Killing of a Sacred Deer on Thursday and The Mirror by Tarkovsky a day or two ago)

>>1213 Avalon's use of music is really special. Particularly the climax, where it's not just a score; there really is a philharmonic orchestra playing inside the hall while the confrontation happens outside.

I actually watched it a few months ago, but a film podcast I listen to mentioned A Ghost Story, and it got me thinking about it a lot again. What an experience.

I'm gonna resurrect this thread for one good reason >Sorry to bother you It's fantastic. You can watch the trailer because it only shows stuff from the 1st third but don't go in expecting the trailer to cover even 50% of the movie. I had a hard time at first because the trailer makes it seem like a completely different movie than it actually is and I went in with different expectations. Basically about unions, workers rights, wage slavery and how messed up capitalistic society can be.

>Taxi Driver Not quite cyb but it touches heavily on what a lot of people seem to be going through nowadays. Definitely worth a watch. >>2499 Thanks for resurrecting.

>>2501 I really love taxi driver I wasn't sure I "got it" when i first watched it. now a days though it seems to be more poignant. Really fits what I feel is going on for the majority of people.

>>570 Breathless was stunning to me. So exciting, just wasn't what I expected at all going in. Other Goddard films have been disappointing for me. Its been a few years since I've seen it and I'm worried I might not like it quite so much as I did.

Been on a war film binge recently, watched Patton, FMJ, We Were Soldiers and ended it with Stukas According to Wikipedia, Stukas is universally accepted as being very poor, yet I very much liked it. I saw it almost as a prototype to the sort of 'feel' given by Hamburger Hill, one of my personal favourites, albeit with an overall more positive tone than HH. Anyone else who's seen it who can confirm if it really is as poor as the critics say? Anyone interested in watching it can find it on archive.org

>>2499 lasted in my local theaters for maybe a week or two? I've been following it for fuarrrking forever cause I like Boots Riley and was super pumped to see it but it was gone before I even had a chance. Gonna have to wait for it to come out on DVD or some soykaf I guess.

I wanna open this up to movies because I've been watching a lot of horror for Halloween. >The Witch You've probably heard about it before it was big when it came out. It's a lot better than I thought it would be. It paces correctly and allows for character development. Really well rounded film I also watched Jacobs Ladder I agree with >>519 on it having really good ideas. It didn't fall flat but I was watching it more for entertainment and less for deeper meaning. It's good for that.

While not a film I did just finish my second watch of Twin Peaks S1+2 with some friends. Going to start watching The Return with them soonish, although I'm not sure they will enjoy it anywhere near as much as I did (they're not the biggest fans of the "heavy lynchian moments"). Watched Caligula a little while ago, McDowell is always a joy to see act.

>>2499 Think I'm gonna see it next week in our local cinema. Have taken an interest in asian films lately, for example Wong Kar-wai's Godard-like "Chungking Express", "2046", "In the mood for love", "Fallen Angels". They are quick and nice looking with unfulfilled loves left and right, he is great with emotions. Or Edward Yang's beautiful "The Terrorizers" and "Taipei Stories" among others. Both directors usually have multiple plots or plot persons which it follows, can be a bit distracting but still make a up for a good whole picture. Can also recommend "Memories of Murder" while in Asia. Other recommendations: "Ikarie XB-1", a nice eastern sci-fi film. Sometimes a bit too vintage looking but still impressive for its time being before all the space hype. "Performance" with sexy Mick Jagger in a mesmerising act of drugs. "Altered States" very interesting premise, though loses the magic by the end imo. Still worth a watch as it is above the usual sci-fi.

Alrighty, lets do this, I recently watched ``I Heart Huckabees'' the reviews don't make it look good, the trailer doesn't make it look good, but I really enjoyed the actual film. I'd suggest it strongly if you've ever been a very moral person confused if anything matters at all and looking for a laugh. I also recently watched ``Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind'' which turned out to be one of my favorite Ghibli films, all the positive vibes Ghibli films always have but a extra degree of /comfy/ with the Shangrala village and enviromental message. I also went on a bit of a foreign film rampage over the last few months, a few that stood out were ``Breathless'' ``The Battle of Algiers'' ``Tokyo Story'' ``In the Mood for Love'' and ``Yi Yi'' the last three being wonderful slice of life films, and the first two being more actiony. Lastly I watched ``The Double'' at the suggestion of this thread and really enjoyed it so thanks lain.

>>2795 I forgot, I also watched ``Stalker'' and ``Solaris'' by Tarkovsky amazing amazing films, about faith and reality amoung other things.

>>2796 You should add Andre Rublev to the list, speaking of Tarkovsky and themes of faith. It's no short ride (3.5 hours) but most people are sitting on the edge of their seats during the last minutes... I know I was, literally.

>>2797 I intend on watching his entire filmography eventually (7 films). with a review like that I'll have to make sure to watch that one next though. cheers lain.

>>2798 He made some student films before those which I have not seen. I have a feeling they aren't hard to find though.

>>2799 that's interesting, I've never really considered watching the student-films of directors I like.

>>2798 Tarkovski has been called the soviet counterpart to kubrik, I have noticed that some of their movies explore the same things, but tarkovskies usually focus more on movie adaptations of books that have deep introspective themes. Those carry over into his films as monologues and musings about mankind (i.e. long panning scenes with the protagonist in context of his surroundings like in Offret) Some of Kubriks films that I liked were Full Metal jacket, Dr. Strangelove (political satire), and Paths of Glory. Dr. Strangelove also got kubrik in trouble because he replicated the bomber cockpit scenes from a national geographic picture, but the government thought someone leaked blueprints

>>2810 Sorry for the delay, I've enjoyed many of Kubrik's films, but I struggle to see this parrallel other than in Solaris, and 2001, would you mind giving a few examples of this?

>>519 I watched Only Lovers Left Alive (2013) recently. Pretty great. But IMO It's one of those "nothing" films where by the end nothing i accomplished, which isn't to say it didn't have an interesting plot. A bit of a plot-hole: If they're supposed to be what they are then why does facetime work? don't cameras make use of mirrors?

>>2825 I don't see the similarity either, even between Solaris and 2001. Tarkovsky reportedly was disappointed by 2001 which he saw as bland and sterile. I don't know if he thought Solaris was some kind of response to it but I suspect during the cold war / space race, the Soviet government sponsoring his films likely wanted to one-up the yankees in making a space film.

I watched code 46... The premise of the movie is really stupid and technically implies incest/momcest As a work of art, the best way to describe it would be a cyberpunk interpretation of the famous Antonini 1975 movie "the passenger" staring Jack Nicholson (would also highly recommend). The movie is cyberpunk because >Gene modification/cloning >absolute world control by a mysterious organization (corporation?) >Identity/document forgery is a central theme >Using performance enhancing drugs/GMO "viruses" to increase physical ability >Code 46 is a love story set in a Brave New World-type near-future where cities are heavily controlled and only accessible through checkpoints. People cannot travel unless they have "papeles" (papers in Spanish; words and sentences in many languages, especially Spanish, French and Chinese are mixed with English in this new world), a special travel permit issued by the totalitarian government, the "Sphinx". Outside these cities, the desert has taken over and shanty towns are jammed with non-citizens - people without IDs forced to live primitive lives.

>>3253 Mostly similar themes in their works, side by side comparison of similar scenes in their movies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJiDSbbfk8U

I am looking for small cyberpunk movies. Try to keep it relatively low in special effects (I don’t like movies where cyberpunk = stuff that looks like matrix) and if possible with some philosophical implications, just because that’s what i’m into right now. Sorry for my poor English.

>>3279 Ones that have already been mentioned are good, also look at >Equals - In an emotionless utopia, two people fall in love when they regain their feelings from a mysterious disease, causing tensions between them and their society. (This is a more adult version of "The giver," which is also mildly cyberpunk/scifi, both of which resemble Ayn rands "Anthem" story about individuality in a forced homogeneous world) >Gattaga - A genetically inferior man assumes the identity of a superior one in order to pursue his lifelong dream of space travel. >Repo men- Set in the near future when artificial organs can be bought on credit, it revolves around a man who struggles to make the payments on a heart he has purchased. He must therefore go on the run before said ticker is repossessed. >A.I. Artificial intelligence - A highly advanced robotic boy longs to become "real" so that he can regain the love of his human mother. >Automata - Jacq Vaucan is an insurance agent of ROC robotics corporation who investigates cases of robots violating their primary protocols against altering themselves. What he discovers will have profound consequences for the future of humanity. The Zero Theorem - A hugely talented but socially isolated computer operator is tasked by Management to prove the Zero Theorem: that the universe ends as nothing, rendering life meaningless. But meaning is what he already craves. More matrix like (action, guns, absurd special combat sequences/special effects) >Equilibrium - In an oppressive future where all forms of feeling are illegal, a man in charge of enforcing the law rises to overthrow the system and state. >Gamer - In a future mind-controlling game, death row convicts are forced to battle in a 'Doom'-type environment. Convict Kable, controlled by Simon, a skilled teenage gamer, must survive thirty sessions in order to be set free. Or won't he? >Elysium - In the year 2154, the very wealthy live on a man-made space station while the rest of the population resides on a ruined Earth. A man takes on a mission that could bring equality to the polarized worlds. >Johnny Mnemonic - Inspired by a gibson story (he also helped direct the film) A data courier, literally carrying a data package inside his head, must deliver it before he dies from the burden or is killed by the Yakuza. >Ex Machina - (more of a scifi/romance) A young programmer is selected to participate in a ground-breaking experiment in synthetic intelligence by evaluating the human qualities of a highly advanced humanoid A.I. >Immortal - (more big on merging CG/special effects, very artistic and creative, but the special effects are dated) In the distant future, Earth is occupied by ancient gods and genetically altered humans. When a god is sentenced to death he seeks a new human host and a woman to bear his child.

>>3280 Thank you!! I will take the time to dig those.

>>3279 >>3280 I'd add Escape from New York (1981) Manhattan has been turned into a maximum security prison. When Air Force One crashes on the island, an ex-special forces convicted criminal has a bomb implanted in his neck and is given 24 hours to rescue the president. Repo Man (1984) A punk rocker turned repo agent finds a car with alien corpses in the boot, and is pursued by government agents and other repo men. Nemesis (1992) A burned-out, drug addicted cyborg cop turned hustler is forcibly re-recruited by the LAPD for a suicide mission against a terrorist leader, but starts questioning his loyalties. Hardware (1990) An artist's astronaut boyfriend buys her a broken, disassembled military robot for her metalwork, but it reactivates and pursues her endlessly through her apartment. Mad Max (1979) On the edges of a dystopian Australia falling into anarchy, highway patrolmen duel with nomad bikers. Sons of Steel (1988) Post apocalyptic time travel rock musical. A bit like Terminator meets The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Max Headroom: 20 Minutes into the Future (1985) A journalist investigating a lethal form of advertising is injured and left for dead trying to escape his own television station, and his employers use his brain scans to try and create an AI with his face to make it look as if he's still on the air. Death Machine (1994) The new chief executive of a corporation secretly involved in weapons design is trapped in her building after hours with a crew of peace activists trying to blow up her vault, and they are all pursued by a "front line morale destroyer" that homes in on fear pheromones, built by a sociopathic weapons engineer.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1298554/ Set in 2041, the 30-something protagonist is a genius at designing emotion software for intelligent robots. He takes on a job at the university in his old hometown after a 10-year absence. He finds out his old lover has a 10-year-old daughter... and his brother is the father. His job is a research project to design a robotic boy with perfectly accurate human emotions. He decides to use his precocious and energetic niece as the emotional model. Then things start to go very very wrong.

>>3283 These are way closer to what Lain requested. Paranoia: 1.0 s a great one too Lance Henriksen is in it. >>3280 ...and these are more high budget glossy. Also note that Repo Man and Repo Men are very very different but there is some confusion over the name at times.

>>3313 Never seen this one. Looks like what Chappie could/should've been.

>>3313 >Never seen this one. Looks like what Chappie could/should've been. Not exactly... but it is very good. Just go into it cold. Don't read *anything* about it before watching it. Don't even watch the trailer. It's much more rewarding and impactful that way.