Colleges

Hey /tech/ What are some good colleges for pursuing a network security/pentesting career?

MIT

>>14122 LOL I don't nearly have the money/grades to go to MIT. Besides I thought it was all about math/algebra.

That soykaf is selftaught breh.

>>14123 not really. Most of it is knowledge of assembly, general UNIX skills that any decent sysadmin has, and patience. Behind software engineering it's probably one of the least math-heavy computer-related degrees you can get, unless you go into crypto.

yeah crypto is crazy math. Any Tech place that can give you a respectable CS degree should be considered. Truth is, degrees look good on a resume, but you won't last long if you can't do soykaf . Start getting certs and degrees, but never forget that ability is the real goal.

>>14130 Any particular certs you recommend? I'm already working towards CEH. Not OP btw.

>>14157 CEH is terrible. Only get your CEH if you're planning on taking the ECSA/LPT course. Overall; I'd recommend getting your OSCP/OSCE. Here's how the chain works(Best/Most profitable to less profitable) OSCE, OSCP, ECSA/LPT, CISSP, CEH, Any CompTIA

>>14120 I could not help but notice your png was not optimized lainon. I have optimized your png. Your png is now optimized.

>>14187 Thank you good sir. -tips top hat-

I start the OSCP in January. I'll be getting my Network+ next month. CEH is nothing but a resume filler.

>>14192 Good man. Get your OSCE after.

I'm planning on doing all three of OffSec's online courses. People hold them in a high regard and they have been awesome in answering my questions during the registration process.

>>14200 If you already have lots of experience in WiFi hacking, I wouldn't suggest WiFu. Basically WiFu is 75% Cracking WEP, and 25% WPA/WPA2

>>14200 WiFu 3.0(Current) still uses BackTrack 5

Is there anywhere to pirate the offensive-security stuff?

>>14209 I haven't seen PWK at all. However PWB 3.2, WiFu 3.0, CTP, and AWE are accessable. However I have been able to get the PWK pdf, just need the videos.

Off-Sec materials aren't what sets them apart. It's their labs. I'll happily pay to get my hands dirty while I learn. Their program is the best. It's worth the money. Pic not related. (But who cares, tits make everything better!)

DSU is one of the best if your going to the midwest

>>14206 my schools online labs still do too.

>>14220 What makes OffSec stand out is how challenging and hands-on the class is.

>>14223 Damn out of state. But looks good, will check it out. Thanks anon

>>14228 i personally wouldn't recommend going to college if you don't have too. about 40% of people working in tech don't have a degree, i would study on for certs that being said if you still want to go to college the national brewing soykaf agency has a big list of their recommended courses, but when it comes to finding jobs and making money your best bet would be going military.

>>14272 Newfag here, what is soykaf?

>>14274 It's the language enhancer replacement for the S H word.

>>14123 You don't need to actually enroll in it. They make all their course material available online for free, and you don't really need a degree to be able to get a job in the field.

>>14282 I've seen/done their online netsec courses. Nothing new to me, I could've taught a lot more.

If you are in the area of the Balkans go to the University of applied sciences in Zagreb(a.k.a. TVZ in Croatian).

I am pretty new to the IT world here also. I really want to find a job as a security engineer or become a pen tester. Is it really necessary to go to college for that? I feel like 80% of the classes wont actually help me in the future...

>>14325 Good point I feel the same, and was thinking in same directions or working with linux based systems. But today you need papers for everything

College really helps you get your foot in the door, but ability is what will get you a career. Become the person who knows exactly what they are doing; not the dude with resume filler who looks lost everyday. The best made names for themselves through their ability, not their certifications. I'm going for my OSCP. I'm doing it because I truly want to learn the stuff. I'd gladly trade away their certificate for the chance to say I learned more than any other student.

>>14356 Have you been enjoying the course so far? Can you give some insight as to what the course material is? OSCP is something I have been looking into for awhile also. Would you recommend having a Net+ or any other experience prior to starting OSCP?

>>14379 OSCP is extremely hands-on oriented. It would be immensely wise of you to have a solid foundation of TCP/IP protocols, OSI Model, as well as programming(Python, C, Assembly), as there are lots of areas where buffer overflows are covered and other various programming-skill is needed. It's challenging but extremely fun.

>>14356 Agreed. A lot of jobs won't even consider you without at least a B.S in some sort of CS Education

>>14481 What about someone who has a degree in an unrelated field plus certs?