Free and Secure Laptop

Hi everyone, I'm looking for a thin and long battery life laptop which is compatible with Tail and Tor use, where Qubes can be installed, meaning that it needs 16G of RAM and LibreBoot (to get rid of the backdoors). The issue here is that no Libreboot laptop can get 16G of RAM, so I have to choose: getting a laptop with Qubes but no Libreboot (welcomebackdoors.bat) or getting a Libreboot laptop without compartmentalization. I've spent a lot of time searching for such a laptop so I'm wondering which laptop you'll suggest. Thanks.

go for qubes, it will protect you much more than libreboot.

>>6343 OP here, for me using qubes without Libreboot is like building a castle on sand

I suggest Libreboot + a secure OS like OpenBSD.

>>6345 If I can't find a suitable laptop that's I'll do: get a x200 thinkpad and install libreboot and a secure OS. However I do not know so much about secure OS so Imight try OpenBSD.

You are forgetting the endless stream of spectre attacks rolling out monthly. c2d are all vulnerable with no patches. Even if you found something with 16geebees, qubes is useless because of it.

>>6347 > c2d What do you mean by that ? Core 2 Duo ?

>>6348 Not that lain but I'll assume he does mean Core 2 Duo, all Libreboot compatible x86_64 laptops are Core 2 Duos.

Can't you just disable multi-threading in the BIOS?

>>6344 and using libreboot without qubes is like building a sand castle on a very strong rock. It's not like libreboot can defend you against hardware backdoors anyway.

>>6352 I don't think so

>>6349 But by installing Libreboot the c2d are patched, right ?

>>6355 nope intel didn't patch c2d and even if they did, libreboot wouldn't accept them as binaries, only source

>>6352 spectre/meltdown are due to speculative execution, not threads. You need a chip that doesn't do specexec at all. Like A53 ARM cores in a RK3328 Rock64 with open source bootloader and microcode.

>>6357 But I don't need a Raspberry Pi like, I need a laptop ^^ Although I can build a "secure system" with RK3328 Rock64 and an OS operating system and access it via a secure way (SSH ?) on a laptop ? God I'm lost ^^

>>6358 Then get a Samsung Chromebook Plus. That is RK3399, but you can disable the two A72 cores if you like. The older C201 cb from Acer has libreboot. There's a diy laptop from olimex and acer R13 chromebook, but I'm not sure on their microcode. Might be closed.

>>6342 Go with OpenBSD. Getting it working will force you to become good at computers. Qubes is training wheels. You can install Gnome or KDE on OpenBSD to make it easier to use. If your new to Linux/Unix, then use a mainstream Linux distro like Fedora for a few months before trying OpenBSD.

>>6342 dont get a Intel laptop, they have the Intel ME thing

>>6361 I'm current using Debian, I never installed OpenBSD but I'll !

>>6364 Also, the Lumina desktop with OpenBSD is worth a try. It's very lightweight and was designed for FreeBSD, so it works well with OpenBSD. It's similar to Windows in that it has a taskbar and start menu. I've been using it since yesterday, but I can't tell how good it is because I installed KDE and Gnome first and all of their dependences and changes to the filesystem are interfering with Lumina. I'll do a clean install with Lumina in a few days and report back if the results are interesting.

>>6367 > Lumina desktop It's gorgeous !

https://puri.sm/products/