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I don't think this is the best place to ask, but this is the only place I know that MAYBE I can ask (and I only know two sites, basically). I kind of have this goal of being a special security agent or something like this, but I don't think this opportunity is really available at the moment for me and I don't know where to start or where to look. Would any of you happen to know? Any books? Any website, maybe? Pic unrelated

>>4795 College is a good place to start. I recommend learning about computer architecture (let's be honest, most lainons know a little of this already), IT, and some high level languages and webdev. IT especially is pretty important, make sure you're really solid with networking. Make friends with your professors. If college isn't an option, well, you're probably in the soykaf bin. The job market is highly competitive and you won't get a job without a degree.

>>4796 I don't mean this kind of security. I'm sorry for not being very clear. I feel kind of silly talking about it because I must sound like a wannabe.

>>4797 Well if you mean physical security, then how to get into it. Start off first by getting in shape, and start learning at least one martial art. Go to college yes, but stick to martial arts. There are plenty of opportunities to be a body guard etc. You have to reach out and ask them how they got there- and then try and do what they did. dolph lungren started out as a bouncer

>>4797 become a detective in a big city, solve cyber crime.

>>4797 Are you talking about "secret service" type work (or whatever your country's equivalent is)? In America at least those guys are usually ex military, or at least they came up through the cop/detective/FBI career path. Basically you have to be an über-pig to qualify.

I see. Thanks, everyone. Just like everything else, secret service is boring. I don't know what to do, but I hope to find it

>>4795 Military or law enforcement is the first stop man. Recommend mil over LE. Yes you will be mentally conditioned or "brainwashed" to react in combat during training, albeit with varying results. No it doesn't make you a mindless warslave -- the conditioning, repetition, and blind order following build an incredibly useful tool called discipline. Simply put, discipline is your ability to carry out an action regardless of fear, exhaustion, or laziness. In the beginning discipline is cultivated by following orders and obeying the will of others, but this is just conditioning you to tune out pain, fatigue and fear. The end state of this conditioning is control is given back to you, and you find that your body and mind obey your will, not the other way around. This handing back of control can be seen as you progress through the NCO ranks; if a junior soldier fuarrrks up it is his leader's fault, but when you fuarrrk up at the NCO level you are responsible, because at that point you are in charge of your actions. Discipline (or it's real name, self-discipline) is a pretty crucial skill to learn where you're headed, and I recommend military because 1) you spend more time cultivating it and 2) you have more time to cultivate it before you start having power over people, which is why I think LE is a bad starting place. Power over people is dangerous, and I think LE is more likely to abuse it because they have less time to learn how to control themselves before controlling others. Granted, there are exceptions, and the military has its own host of problems, but you definitely need to pick up self-discipline before moving on. Try to get an MOS with a clearance, because you are more likely to work near or in an agency building (preferably FBI or CIA; NSA is for nerds), and you will be able to make contacts which is a huge requirement for landing a special security job. Spend a couple of years in, cultivate self-discipline and self-reliance, and get an MOS that gets you working around secure areas. Make some friends, talk to some people in those spaces, and you will know what to do and where to go. >>4796 >The job market is highly competitive and you won't get a job without a degree. This is not true. There is not enough people in the field, and experience is what really matters. I get called into a lot of interview panels for my org, and I've learned that degrees are hit or miss; checking an applicant's practical knowledge or watching them at the keyboard is the only real way to find out what they're worth. Focus more on actually learning how to do things, and less on certs and degrees. Knowledge is useless if you can't demonstrate it.

>>4795 Most states PI's need to be licensed. In most, but not all, PI's are almost necessarily former police officers. The reason is that many PI license exams require you to have several years past experience in "investigations." Usually the implication is that you need to have achieved rank of "detective" in the Police before you are allowed to be a private detective. There are jobs that circumvent that loop. If you just want to be like, a security guard, you don't need a PI license. Many states do need licenses for that type of work too. Depends on that state, but you don't necessarily need to be ex-mil/cop to be a wackenhut style guard. It definitely helps to be big dude. Some places require firearms experience and training. Now if what you mean is being a blackwater style military contractor, then I would say you must be ex-mil and even ex-spec-ops. In all cases I would start getting in the gym soon. If you aren't naturally huge, then you are going to want to look physically imposing. Good cardio is also practical if you plan on chasing people while wearing body armor.

>>4818 >and I think LE is more likely to abuse it because they have less time to learn how to control themselves before controlling others. True that. Also, I would add LE has lower standards of behavior in general. From what I understand, there is a shortage of LEO's in most states, so they put up with people failing at just about every single task. Not to mention, a lot of departments are way behind the times technologically.

"Hey, you're a Secret Service man aren't ya? Huh?"

>>4823 Just keep in mind when you read these, most states have strict laws for PI work. You can get in very big trouble if you are not licensed. FWIW the pinkerton detective agency still exists, and you can try and join if you like.

>>4796 This is not true. I work in cyber security and I've got a BS in psychology. I took a boot camp in webdev, too. Having the education definitely got me in the door, but it was more about the fact that I was teachable and intellectually curious (demonstrated by my degree) than anything else. Once you've got an in, you're in. You can get a better job and just keep moving. >>4818 I think this guy is correct. I'm a nerd, so I decided not to become a LEO/soldier to reach my goals. But if you wanna become an intelligence operative, CIA is the way to go. FBI works too. What's important is knowing the difference. The CIA is an org that operates only outside the US, so their agents are tracking intelligence, assets, and resources outside the country. CIA agents do a lot of traveling (mostly to soykafholes). FBI operates within our borders. They're more like police than James Bond (that'd be more CIA). But they're police that catch the bad guys that are too big for regular cops. If I were you, I'd look into Homeland. They're always hiring and you're still a full special agent

>>4795 >special security agent Define that are you trying to become a private investigator? a body guard? or just that fat guy in cargo pants who goes around setting cameras and alarm systems in rich peoples' houses? what exactly?

>>4799 >>4802 >>4803 Being a "secret agent man" or whatever of ten is more of a personality thing than actual skill. most agents only have a rudimentary understanding of a subject, but have a very diversified skillset. THough marital arts is often helful, especially in the operational fields. AN example would be the united states CIA clandestine operations officers, who typically have a 4 degree in law enforcement, and though some military experience is preferred, there is an emphasis on a few things >the ability to blend with others (i.e. social skills/social engineering) >the ability to speak languages >the ability to operate independently, or with a team to accomplish goals and write reports. Predominantly, people work out of consulates doing "diplomatic" work, but unless you are in some first word country with an interest in meddling with/ reporting on other countries internal affairs, there is a low chance that you will end up as a "secret agent man" as for skills, learn a few more languages, live abroad, and aquire outdoors skills like map navigation, outdoor survival, and if possible, firearms handling. there are also technical jobs that focus on interpreting, gathering, and making reports on intelligence. look around on here for the essence of what intelligence is https://dodcertpmo.defense.gov/ As others have suggested, private investigators and bodyguards do some of the same things, and there are schools to learn to be a body guard/PI/private security, but most of the time, you will only be able to get jobs as a gate guard for a while.

lainchan thinks im spamming, so here is part 2, security/intelligence jobs may pay well in some cases, but you are really just a glorified human shield, and looking over your back in the other. With clearances, you will likely be tasked with being told to do things that you will be forced to take to your grave, and having other people in your life is not advised. many agents are even told to lie to their family about their work, and for hiring, you are not supposed to let people you associate with know that you even want to be an agent. If you just want the title of being in a security agency, look at the lesser known GEOINT field, or get an engineering degree and work as a technician.

>>5703 >marital arts

>>5706 now this is funny...hahaha

>>4795 > I kind of have this goal of being a special security agent Are you a wizard? If not you will gain only a mundane "security clearance" at best, and never attain the rank or knowledge of agent in the realm of security. What if I told you the old gods are real and that there is no need for computer security because we can currently read the minds of men from afar? If your stance is that this is absurd, then you will never attain your goal. If you entertain my statements as plausible then you are on you path to becoming a very special agent... My advice to you is that if you are not born of the ranks to which such knowledge is revealed, then join a secret society. Divorce yourself from atheism, for man has always dwelt among the gods, and it it from them we derive our actual security. May the God of Light and Air, of Invisibility and Hidden Powers be made known to you. Amen: http://archive.is/cRBwN#selection-615.19-627.36

>special security agent Could you try telling us a little bit more? What kind of agent? What kind of collection or analyst? Here is some advice I can recommend if your an American wanting to be three-letter-agency-(TM) In most countries the best way it to just apply online, especially if your a college student. Expect to wait because the microscopic chance you get picked will take years to vet you. Most agencies you apply to will teach you everything you need to know, The best thing you can do is have a college degree with 3.0 in one of the fields they recommend and stay away from pot (and other drugs), even if it's legal in your state. You wont be considered if you smoked within the past 1-3 years depending on where you apply. if you meet the requirements apply online at their website and DON'T TELL ANYONE. If you do, you will get canned don't follow any agency online, don't retweet, don't like on fakebook, heart on intstagram, nothing. >inb4 spook.

>>5714 >t. butthurt contractor with TS-SCI who never made agent but still works for a 3 lettre

>>5711 Lainon, have you taken your medication? >>5719 I don't know how butthurt that dude is gonna be with a clearance once they move to a contractor and make pretty good money. Everyone I've known that had a clearance made really good money for the industry. Sure, you could be a developer somewhere else and make much, much more, but once you get a clearance you really have to fuarrrk up to lose that job security. No pun intended.

>>5714 >The best thing you can do is have a college degree with 3.0 in one of the fields they recommend They'll take a B average? Pathetic, considering what grade inflation has done to the meaning of a B. >and stay away from pot (and other drugs), even if it's legal in your state. You wont be considered if you smoked within the past 1-3 years depending on where you apply. It doesn't matter how long ago the drug use was if it's considered "habitual use". That's disqualifying. >if you meet the requirements apply online at their website and DON'T TELL ANYONE. Ooh, spoopy. Big secret. You know, the cat's going to be out of the bag when the FBI calls everyone he knows for the background checks.