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Yamaoto Toshi · 2024-10-15 16:16
In the past, if you dropped your car keys in a parking lot or facility, the person who picked them up wouldn't know which car they were driving. With today's remote-controlled or smart keys, if someone with malicious intent picks them up, the car will respond when they press a button, so isn't it like asking them to steal it? I think security has decreased, but what do you think?
Naomi Nascimento · 2024-10-16 00:47
I don't know how many but some manufacturers when you get them give you a spare that isn't an electronic remote or smartkey if it can use just ordinary locks
Donna Hawthorne · 2024-10-16 02:07
I think it’s more or less the same. Old keys were finite in their variations. Car manufacturers didn’t give every car an unique lock, would’ve been hella expensive. This scene from le samoerai illustrates how car thieves used to operate https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=eAIj412aeQA
Dozer · 2024-10-17 03:55
>>24970 I think most manufacturers have stopped this practice and now only give out smart keys
Case · 2024-10-17 13:12
>>24969 Keyless entry is definitely a decrease in security since somebody doesn't even need to have the fob they just need to be close enough to relay the RF signal to the car and start the engine. The problem with the old-old keys in your pic is that they don't have immobilizers, somebody can just pick the lock or clone your key based on the shape or bypass the ignition system all together with hotwiring. Newer keys have RFID inside them so when you insert the key and twist it is also sending a code to the immobilizer to let it start the engine. You can't just snap off the metal part and twist it in the ignition it will refuse to start. That's also why hotwiring is not a thing anymore.
The Oracle · 2024-10-17 16:47
>>24969 It's a wash. We've traded one type of car thief for another type of car thief, but key replacements are now much more expensive. In a way, that makes you a victim to car dealership thievery.
Spooky · 2024-10-18 04:26
Pops used to work in the repair shop for car thieves. They'd bring in stolen cars (usually hot wired) and the boss would buy them before stripping away any identification and re-selling it or scrapping them for parts. As the smart keys and FOBs came into widespread use, the old veteran car thieves have been put out to pasture and slowly replaced with younger guys who are more tech savvy but there are less of them. I kinda miss the old heads, they were a different breed of criminal and its fun hearing their stories.