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Does anyone of you use OpenBSD in a daily use scenario? I know it is kinda of a masochistic thing, I just want to know if anyone of you have tried it.

I ran it for a few months around 8 years ago. I remember it being pleasant. I switched back to Linux because some software I needed wasn't ported to it. You should try it. It's nice. Maybe I'll give it another try, too.

>>21697 OpenBSD is generally best suited for servers and those stuff so I've never heard of someone using it like they would use Lainux.

>>21696 I still maintain that OpenBSD is the best Unix-like I have ever used, I still daily drive it on one of my machines. It is extremely well documented via man pages, and the userspace is very consistent as a whole. The primary downsides are limited hardware support (compared to Linux), and the system generally operating a little slower due to security features they have in place. But if you have a machine with supported hardware, I'd highly recommend giving it a try.

>>21696 it absolutely isnt masochistic, i am running openbsd as my only OS and it works just fine, can recommend to try it out yourself.

>>21701 OpenBased (and Lainpilled).

>>21696 I tried OpenBSD, and as the other anons have said, as a plain-ol unix userspace, it's quite pleasant. Unfortunately, my work requires "modern" software like KiCad, which I'd have to install through the OpenBSD ports collection, which I dislike. I use NixOS now because I really appreciate its declarative nature, and resulting reproducibility and binary caching. If someone could make a declarative "version" of OpenBSD, I'd be all over that.

The nix package manager appears to work on openbsd, at least based on a closed issue on their github about getting it to work on openbsd from 2017. You could possibly just run openbsd with it and whatever other tools make nixos appealing to you

I tried it out. It wasn't hard at all to install and there's a surprising amount of software available in the ports. What got me is that it performs a lot worse than linux in general. Firefox was kind of slow and made the fans on my computer spin a lot compared to linux.

>>21703 It's odd that there isn't a binary package for kicad.

We need to create an OpenBSD for kids

>>21718 For me then. I never managed to get network to function

Dont really use it anymore but it works well depending on the software that you need to run. If you want to play any games at all then dont go openbsd. If you have a problem with X then also dont. Probably best to use it in a VM to try it out.

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>>21725 signing your posts on an anonymous imageboard is cringe

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>I know it is kinda of a masochistic thing, I just want to know if anyone of you have tried it. i don't think it is masochistic, it is comparable to using a fsf approved linux distro or using musl libc. >>21726 it is tripfagging but done right, it is part of imageboard culture also who gives a soykaf about being le cringe when you are anonymous

>>21696 I run OpenBSD on all but one of my servers and run it on my primary laptop. It's a very simple operating system without a lot of nonsense. Ports break occasionally, debugging is harder, and it can be somewhat slow at times. Read the FAQ and man pages because they document almost everything. The only reason I still use linux is because I have not had a good enough reason to replace existing installations.

>>21729 >tripfagging is gay too.

I started learning to use OpenBSD since OpenBSD 7.0 as i am still confused to use Linux as server at the time. It turned out easy to do stuffs here than i thought. Since then started using it as daily use on Server & Desktop (I switched from Linux to OpenBSD) after i am somewhat mastered on how to do stuffs here. I have stuffs working well in my laptop for OpenBSD. Wifi, Audio, and Graphic is working fine as usual. My requirement is not quite special. I have 105 GB of HDD installed into this laptop (May plan to replace it in the future if possible ™), 2 GB of RAM, and Intel Dual Core 1.66 GHz Processor. I did not really doing much on my laptop. So my set up for the desktop is quite minimal. Only using cwm as the window manager, openbsd-wallpapers (available in OpenBSD ports) for wallpaper, libreoffice for documents, and firefox as main browser. > What got me is that it performs a lot worse than linux in general. Firefox was kind of slow and made the fans on my computer spin a lot compared to linux. Yes. For some reason browser is slow here. No idea what was causing it, So there it goes. But because i've using this OS for long now, I guess i am getting used to this behavior. After all, i only use browser to retrieve some informations.

>>21696 Just try using OpenBSD if you are curious! I ran it for a week or two. in a VM but I tried to do thing that I regularly do on my computer. The OpenBSD package repo has everything I need. You can use these 2 websites for searching packages/ports: >http://ports.su >https://openports.pl I do not know how reliable these 2 sites are, however. It's best to install OpenBSD in a VM and use pkg_info -Q foobar OpenBSD as a desktop OS is actually very comfy, if you are okay with the performance. There are some people who even play games on it (#openbsd-gaming @ Libera.Chat). The main #openbsd IRC channel is also active and helpful. There are also very active mailing lists if you prefer those. Also, always read the relevant FAQ item at https://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html (They are very well-written). Tips: * Read this man-page if you are new to OpenBSD: https://man.openbsd.org/amd64/afterboot * do not build packages from source, unless you need to. * do not use -current if you are new. * install all package sets during installation * practise making dual-boot setup in a VM before you do it on your disk! The OpenBSD fdisk is very different than GNU/Linux fdisk! * OpenBSD doesn't have sudo, instead they have doas which has much smaller codebase and it accomplishes the same thing as sudo. * OpenBSD uses LibreSSL (https://www.libressl.org), they forked OpenSSL after HeartBleed bug (https://heartbleed.com). LibreSSL also comes with very handy libtls library! * OpenBSD uses Clang compiler (there is nothing wrong with GCC, imo ) * Instead of ALSA/OSS, OpenBSD uses sndiod(8) * fetch/update firmware blobs (for wifi, etc.) with fw_update(1) -- it's very easy! * Also, see syspatch(8) and sysupgrade(8) for upgrading your OS. -- it's very easy! * Default package management: OpenBSD's ports and pkg_* tools. * Read these 2 man-pages if you are a programmer: https://man.openbsd.org/pledge.2 and https://man.openbsd.org/unveil.2 Other guides: * OpenBSD Journal: https://undeadly.org * OpenBSD zine: https://webzine.puffy.cafe/ * Unofficial OpenBSD quick start: https://www.openbsdjumpstart.org * https://www.c0ffee.net/blog/openbsd-on-a-laptop

I was thinking that using openbsd might be a good idea, just to get a simple system that's more easily understandable than common linux distributions. The issue is some time ago I read some stuff like this https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/comments/vgqcke/math_errors_in_openbsd/ which made me stop looking into it, now I admit I could have just tried it myself and see if there actually was something wrong with it, but I'm not having much free time lately as I'm focused on my studies and would like to keep my setup (just a basic xfce desktop with neovim+latex and some python for dirty stuff). I study math and nobody else I know uses a BSD system, most of them use either windows or ubuntu. Maybe I shouldn't even bother with it and try other distributions (like, I don't know, void?) with simple window manager like dwm or openbox or something. XFCE isn't bad at all but it's pretty big, or at least the compositor and the file manager are, I would like to not depend on them in case they stop being reliable in the future (with the linux desktop eventually forced to move to wayland and everything else possibly being treated as a second class citizen) I maybe sound like I'm talking nonsense, I'm not good at talking, hopefully someone understands what I'm saying.

>>22704 I forgot https://www.openbsdhandbook.com I don't remember how up-to-date it is. It's similar project like the Slackbook is for Slackware.

>>22705 Void Linux definitely has a bit less complexity than Ubuntu because it uses Runit instead of SystemD and the base system is much smaller (you need to install the packages that you need). The Void repos have pretty much everything and they provide good docs for making your own packages for Void Linux: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md Also, the good thing about Void Linux/XBPS packages is that they contain more "sugar" than Arch Linux PKGBUILD scripts (i.e. Void packages contain less boilerplate code) but they both are very readable and easy to write. >OpenBox As far as I know, it's not maintained anymore. IceWM is a good alternative that's very similar to OpenBox (but it comes with a bar and a clock). If you want a tiling WM, I suggest trying i3 first before trying DWM.

>>21718 We have one, its called FreeBSD :p >>21696 I use OpenBSD daily on my main laptop, as a means for me to connect to my servers and some light coding. All other distros I tried just didn't want to work with such an old 32bit machine, however all hardware works right out of the box. I can imagine on newer hardware it might be fiddly, but if you want some new life in old kit I'd recommend OpenBSD. You'll definitely learn to love the man pages.

I'm using it and so far i like it very much, especially the security built-in stuff and the excellent firewall (pf). Also the man pages are very well written. As >>22937 said it runs well on old hardware because apparently the devs work on older machines on purpose to not only support this hardware, but also make everything as efficient as possible in the newer architectures. I'm curious to see if someone here has managed to run openbsd on unusual hardware, like smartphones or consoles. I know the ps4 runs a custom version of a bsd.

I have used it for a while on an old laptop, but even though I enjoyed it, its only filesystem (FFSv2) is borderline unusable on physical machines. A single error, data corruption event or a power loss WILL delete random files off your hard drive.

>>23362 I wonder how hard it would be to change the filesystem to ext4/2 t. never done os programming

>>23363 You would have to do a clean-room reimplementation of ext4 because the GPL and BSD licenses are not compatible. OTOH, maybe they can import HAMMER2 into the OpenBSD kernel. It is far more robust and advanced than ext4.

I wish I could use it but my hardware isn't compatible (T__T) so I just use FreeBSD instead.

>>21696 I used OpenBSD for two years. If you want "netbook" experience (web browsing, multimedia, text editing), then it's just enough. Repos are full of software. Default window manager (CWM) is pleasant enough. Full disk encryption is straightforward.