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Downgrading Windows

Void · 2023-03-02 06:08
Anyone got advice on this? >get gaming laptop(nvidia) >has win 11 >partition drive >try installing older versions windows >disable secure boot >Tried installing different versions of 8 >none work >keep getting error 0xc0000001 >go for broke and try installing windows 7 >it freezes i just want to downgrade,lainons
Gyula Kovacs · 2023-03-02 07:43
>>21101 Just use the Q&A thread next time. Basically it's hard to downgrade to Win7 or Windoze 8. There most likely aren't drivers for new HW. If you are trying to evade the botnet, there is probably very little point, since Windows is proprietary software and it has automatic updates (HOWEVER, I'm not saying that automatic updates are a bad feature on it's own!). Instead, I highly recommend that you dual-boot Botnet 10 or Botnet 11 and GNU/Linux (like Xubuntu or Linux Mint). If you want to be extra careful, you could get another HDD for Linux (but you can just use Botnet 10/Botnet 11 disk management tools to shrink a partition and then just point the Linux installer to the free space). If (re)boot times matter to you, just get 2 SSDs (like Crucial MX500).
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2023-03-02 08:41
The spyware features from 10 were quickly backported to 7 and 8 because they're central to Microsoft's development model. Lrn2wine. If you must run Windows 7, do it on old hardware.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2023-03-02 08:45
>>21101 If you want to downgrade you'll have to do a fresh install of an older version. As >>21102 points out, driver support is lackluster, and if you're thinking of privacy you'll either have to go back to XP or use a DNS sinkhole in your home (like the pihole [1]) Take the plunge. Switch to linux mint [2] with XFCE. If you have any programs you "have" to run on windows, both wine emulation and VM performance with qemu+virt-manager have been getting really good lately. [1] https://pi-hole.net/ [2] https://linuxmint.com/
Gyula Kovacs · 2023-03-03 03:12
>>21102 >Just use the Q&A thread next time. will do >trying to evade the botnet That is part of it, have tried linux multiple times before (mostly mint) and usually went back to windows since most programs were EXEs. Ended up using linux more as a curiosity and simple browsing. >Instead, I highly recommend that you dual-boot Botnet 10 or Botnet 11 and GNU/Linux May try debian this time >>21103 >The spyware features from 10 were quickly backported to 7 and 8 because they're central to Microsoft's development model. Lrn2wine. If you must run Windows 7, do it on old hardware. Damn, how is linux when it comes to compatibility with gpu/nvidia type of hardware? >>21104 >you want to downgrade you'll have to do a fresh install of an older version. have tried using older versions of windows isos from internet archive. results only get a frozen screen and blue screen of death(error) Anyone trusted site for older windows OSs?
Sabo Engle · 2023-03-03 04:26
>>21108 >Damn, how is linux when it comes to compatibility with gpu/nvidia type of hardware? Pretty good with nvidia, just make sure you install the propriety drivers. I use void with my 3090 with great success. If you want a linux noob freindly distro I'd check out pop os!. It has an image with the propriety nvidia drivers preinstalled.
Miho Iwakura · 2023-03-03 06:22
>>21108 >>21109 There is also nouveau, the open-source alternative to nvidia drivers, that works well for workloads that don't include gaming, and they have better support for hardware decoding APIs (VAAPI, VDPAU). The proprietary NVIDIA drivers do not support these APIs (they implement their own, NVDEC, which is only supported by very few Linux applications). The reason nouveau does not work very well for games is because the firmware that controls the Power Management Unit of NVIDIA cards is a closely guarded industry secret, so nouveau is locked to the lowest power state of most NVIDIA cards. This is part of the reason you hear a lot of contempt from the Linux userbase towards NVIDIA. In terms of graphics libraries, both alternatives support OpenGL, GLES, EGL and Vulkan, nouveau through Mesa and the proprietary drivers through their own implementations, but since nouveau can only use a fraction of your GPU capacity, playing modern games with it is unfeasible. Most distros will come with nouveau by default and it will be up to you to install the proprietary version (through your system's package manager).
Ein · 2023-03-03 07:39
>>21108 >Damn, how is linux when it comes to compatibility with gpu/nvidia type of hardware? If you have nvidia GPU, you need to use the proprietary drivers. But how easy this will be depends on your distro. On Arch, Gentoo and Void it's pretty easy. I haven't used Debian with Nvidia GPU but you probably can get it working if you use the installation iso that contains the non-free firmware: >https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ You most likely need to install some additional packages after installing Debian (install nvidia-driver firmware-misc-nonfree and firmware-linux (you probably want amd64-microcode or intel-microcode as well)). On Arch, Gentoo and Void, you can follow the docs that these distros provide.
Case · 2023-03-06 15:55
>>21108 >usually went back to windows since most programs were EXEs. github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles