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I'm moving into my first apartment soon. To protect a notebook, a small amount of cash, a pistol, and possibly other valuable items, I am purchasing a safe. Do you fine lainons have any reccomendations?

yeah make the code 0000 also where do you live?

>>20694 Safes are fake and gay. Having good physical security is better than a safe, someone can just throw it out the window and pick up the goodies when it shatters all over your front yard. Also fireproof is a meme. Maybe leave your valuables with your family if you are so worried, or just take them with you wherever you go?

Yeah, decoy safe with less important stuff in the bedroom (the gun probably, can be replaced with money and the first place scumbags look). The real safe with financial documents, any backup drives, and family photos store in something boring like the christmas decorations boxes or a waterproof solution in the toilet tank or something.

I think a safe is just ok. But if you cannot hide the safe, forget it. You could also just hide your belongings in plain sight, there is a plethora of false, hollow items to hide things in, like a hollow book or coke can, false bottoms in drawers, etc. Just try to harness a modicum of creativity, you can hide precious items for a much lower price. The one issue is they won't be protected from fire, whereas you could purchase a fireproof safe. Of course you could store the precious valuables in a fireproof container and hide it.

if its your first appartment there's a good chance there'll be a second soon and maybe a third before long. good anit burglary safes are neccisarily heavy or built into the house, or otherwise made such that they cannot be easily removed. If you plan to move, and don't own the house both of these are big pains to install and remove when you leave. You may want your pistol on the outside for obvious reasons, and cash is easily concealed anywhere. Alternately if you're a DIY type guy you could lay some concrete with rebar in a box in the garage and weld a small iron box onto it, and cut the box when you're leaving. Make it look really soykafty too so it just looks like some dumb trash. >>20702 >leave ur valubles w/ ur fam, fam solid advice especially if they're close by and you won't need them soon. not putting all your eggs in one basket generally is also just wise.

>>20695 kek >>20702 I was thinking, since other people will be going into my apartment, I don't want them reading things I write. My land lord/lady will have a key to my apartment, and I don't want him/her to take my things. >>20705 I will hide my safe, that way nobody can steal the physical safe. >>20706 Thank you, wise sage!

>>20716 many places its illegal for your landlord to enter the flat without your permission, some they have to give advance notice. you could also ask to put a note in the lease to this effect if it would make you happyer. obviously basically anyone can get in if they have time...

>>20702 >someone can just throw it out the window and pick up the goodies when it shatters all over your front yard. It's not about perfect security, rather increasing the time it takes for someone to get access to valuables, but I wholeheartedly agree with your first point. Having good physical security is going to give you better peace of mind in general, too. That being said there are a lot of bad small safes out there that can be bypassed trivially. OP should watch lockpickinglawyer's reviews. >>20706 >You could also just hide your belongings in plain sight This is also a good idea

>>20720 From a noob: what do you mean when you say "physical security"? I.e, measures to prevent an intruder getting as far as the safe in the first place?

>>20721 Correct. This also encompasses all parts of potential points of entry. Good door locks, window locks, cameras, alarm systems (if applicable), etc. If you want to be neurotic about it I'm sure someone out there has a good list of secure garage door opener, too. My only experience in physical security is performing physical red team events against commercial buildings so my knowledge of home physical security is very limited. I'm sure others can contribute much better information ITT.

>>20725 If you can, OP, there is a good starter kit that sparrow lockpicks sells that includes picks and a door shim so you can try it on some dummy locks and see how it all works. I would definitely check out the lockpicking subreddit as well, and check to see threads for well-rated deadbolts. I'm also retarded and just realized OP said APARTMENT and not house. In that case you're kinda soykaf outta luck when it comes to setting up your own deadbolt but you may be able to install one so long as you give your landlord a copy of the key. I'd ask them about it first. Make sure there is no room under your front door to stick something under, and make sure your doorknobs are the round kind, and not the flap style. Aside from that I wish you the best of luck. Entry to the common area is usually "safeguarded" by dogshit bulk-purchase locks with huge tolerances in the crappy front door for shimming or under the door attacks. I personally use a bar-style door wedge when I'm home. It won't stop someone completely but it'll buy you time.

>>20721 Apartments are tricky. The landlord does not want the liability of a soykafty tenant, but tenants also don't want a soykafty landlord. Both sides usually act in their self interest. Landlords want access, so denying access to the landlord is usually prohibitive or illegal. That being said, other lains are correct. In most places (not all) they need to give you 24hours notice, sometimes written before entering the apartment. Sometimes they actually prohibit firearms in the rental agreement (lol, lmao even) and there are limitations to safes, assuming floor weight capacity is an issue. Safes themselves have their own issues, but to be honest a $100 lock box may be more advantageous than a $600 safe of the same capacity, simply because it is more mobile, and if you have regular house guests, they probably wont know the difference or attempt to open it . In some cases your rights as a renter are protected so far as the landlord can enter your house (for emergencies/maintenance and such, but they are not allowed to open closets, drawers, or cabinets and look inside your soykaf. Honestly a lockable file cabinet may be another good route to look into. Like other lains said, do your research and don't be gay. Everything is different if you live in a pleasant neighborhood with well to do people who would never break into your home. I would also encourage you to do research on your surroundings. Get to know your potential or actual new neighbors, but you don't need to let them know who you are, what you do, or what you have. Just be a nice person and ask about their day 'n sheit and you can get added community security. The best security is not being a target.

>>20694 get a cheap gun safe, drill holes in the back and bolt to the studs with large lag screws in a closet. stack boxes next to it and/or cover it with a tarp/blanket. The reason I say cheap gun safe is anything heavier is a pain to move into apartments. When you leave apartment, just get some spackle to cover the holes.