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VPNs and Proxies
Otacon · 2021-10-08 01:47
Is there anyway to get a Proxy and/or VPN service that one wouldn't have to pay for, or one that you do but get free as in freedom? Most of the paid for services out there have terms and services against Piracy and whatnot, so you'll have your subscription terminated.
If I set up my own I face a similar problem, the re-routed traffic still goes out under my ISP. Solutions?
Random · 2021-10-08 03:11
The traffic will always go through your ISP but it gets encrypted. That's the point. All ISP sees is packets from you to VPN which they can't inspect. I don't like to tell plebs about the lesser known vpn services but start with something like CryptoStorm or 143VPN (terrible now but was good a few years ago, just look for similar services). To get one for free one could hypothetically pwn a server or find one to setup on with a script like this https://github.com/superswan/Pirate-VPS. Hypothetical of course
Apoc · 2021-10-08 21:53
Tor and I2p for being free as in freedom, and distributed / not centralized.
Free as in free beer, then you have calyx and riseup, both companies offer a free bitmask vpn.
All options will obfuscate traffic from your ISP, and they will likely have no idea what youre actually doing.
Tequila · 2021-10-08 23:23
>>17585
Does calyx and riseup support p2p without problems with ip leaking? I've been interested in trying them out but was hesitant due to affiliation with antifa, etc.
Marly Krushkhova · 2021-10-08 23:57
>>17588
Do you want to RISE UP or not fuarrrko?
Anamika · 2021-10-09 08:19
>>17577
Use throwaway sim, not the onlinesim thing but what you can buy. don't use the same OS, hardware, and dongle for a long time, t h r o w a w a y. It's a much safer model than having to trust a point of failure e.g, VPN
>paid
Don't fall for it, they all have legal compliance as the (vpn) service is just renting from the high level host/internet provider which is some ISP built atop some country's soil in which case the ISP also comply with the local and government laws and chances are if you triggered some official or something on a chatroom in this "wonderful society" you might just get the same treatment:
web.archive.org/web/20211009081416/https://ca.news.yahoo.com/cambodia-autistic-teenager-jailed-over-234038210.html
>>17578
The ISP can correlate logs even if it's unreadable.
If your ISP is partnered or is one of the big tech, they can use correlation techniques and it's much worse if it's an exit node, I don't use tor or whatever but I do recommend it ONLY if you use a throwaway internet- if you fail that step you're as good as transparent.
The Oracle · 2021-10-09 22:04
>>17577
Tor/i2P is probably your best bet for stuff like this.
John Doe · 2021-10-10 08:29
>>17589
You didn't exactly answer the core question here.
Otacon · 2021-10-19 01:56
I've been thinking, and while the VPN would encrypt traffic between systems, wouldn't it still (the server side) be an unencrypted exit node? If the server were say, on my home network, I could look access sites through it encrypted anywhere. But the server itself would be making requests as usual, unencrypted and right in front of the ISP's nose.
TL;DR: If I were to pirate something, through a "home-server VPN", wouldn't the traffic be the exact same and my internet still be throttled by AT&T?
Unless my understanding is just completely wrong lmfao
Zero Cool · 2021-10-19 03:06
Have you looked at AirVPN or Cryptostorm?
Joe Bloggs · 2021-10-19 05:00
>>17577
A. Rent a VPN/Proxy from VPN company that says they don't care about torrenting.
B. Rent a VPS from datacenter that says they don't care about torrenting. Install whatever server software you want: VPN, proxy, shadowsocks, always on bittorrent client, your own imageboard.
C. Rent a "seedbox". It comes as a web interface to bittorrent client and ftp/file directory for downloads.
>>17711
No, "home VPN" = encrypted tunnel between your computer device outside home and your home (private) network where your other computers might be. It makes sense to use it as exit for all traffic only when you trust your home network and household ISP more than you trust an ISP random free wifi outside your home. Or when you have a file server you need to access from anywhere else. In some cases an always powered on home file server can do torrents at home if your jurisdiction allows, while you on smartphone or laptop outside can not due to intermittent power supply.
Anamika · 2021-10-19 09:02
>>17711
Your ISP will know how much data passes but not what it is. Some ISPs throttle specific websites and any torrenting in which case it may get around it. You also can slightly reduce data if it's one that blocks ads.
Cypher · 2021-10-19 10:05
>>17712
Is cryptostorm good? It's a fairly minor VPN so I can't find much about it. Most negative things I have found are complaining about some zoo user who was tangentially related to its founding and the reviewer complaining because he was too retarded to figure out how to run a VPN without shiny GUIs.
The $250 lifetime Black Friday deal looks pretty tempting, especially since you can use any crypto to pay (assuming they do that again).
Shogun · 2021-10-23 11:06
>>17719
>pay using crypto
>connect with your own ip
if you're just looking for a VPN to hide your own IP from torrent swarms you might as well go for any fast provider that has servers in Spain and connect to those
Nemissa · 2021-10-23 18:10
>>17748
Why Spain though?
Naomi Nascimento · 2021-10-23 21:11
>>17754
If I'm correct, torrenting for personal use with no intended profit is totally legal in Spain. The same with Switzerland too
AnPsi · 2021-10-29 07:09
ive heard that protonvpn doesnt care what u use their services for
according to them its cause they cant see what u do but who knows if thats true
plus they have a free plan thats not terribly slow
Mentat · 2021-10-29 07:13
>>17711
if you could reroute the traffic through a well-known service like cloudflare or cloudfront IP address it might not be throttled but I think your isp will still know that you are torrenting if your router bundles DPI in and somehow its qos settings tries to know your torrent packets which means you should avoid that but I think a vpn on top of it should prevent that but I think DPI is much more sophisticated now -in which case at&t will still know about your data usage and throttle you however that's dumb, don't know how burger internet does their stuff but I think that's just absurd if they allow unlimited netflix and throttle anything else -consider using another provider and just look into the forums or ask which isp is best for piracy on your country as it's differen't everywhere.
Fred Nurk · 2022-02-23 16:34
Bumping because this is the only related thread I've found.
Can someone recommend me a good free alternative to scrapbox? For proxy harvesting and checking. I will use it to test combolists.
Cowboy · 2022-03-03 13:38
>>17577
You can actually make your own VPN if you have the right know how, these vids might help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxpX_mubz2A&ab_channel=Wolfgang'sChannel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x1BJCKwqpI&ab_channel=AllThingsSecured
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk_v6Q0YsNo&t=515s&ab_channel=MentalOutlaw
John Titor · 2022-03-06 09:42
>>17577
I created new Proton VPN accounts to use the premium VPN trial. The free version was blocking P2P traffic a few years ago
Mullvad cost's the same as a small coke and a bag of chips :)
Neuromancer · 2022-03-06 22:53
>>17781
How does Protonvpn's free plan measure up against VPNs you have to pay for? Are there guarantees that their not just selling user data?
Ender · 2022-03-07 13:55
>>17585
>>17596
>>17716
This.
>>18898
>>18899
>Proton VPN
Confirmed for being glowed.
>Mullvad
Only VPN company that isn't confirmed that it glows.
Marly Krushkhova · 2022-03-12 09:48
>>18902
>Confirmed for being glowed.
source?
The Oracle · 2022-03-13 07:50
>>18923
Proton has sent emails to authorities in various countries. Lainon is probably referring to the more recent case out of France.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2022-03-14 16:57
>>18923
>>18926
All VPNs advertised by your favourite soytubers mine user data. They're ok for torrenting perhaps if your ISP (which most likely also datamines) sends you nigerian letters on every such occasion, or when you found nothing cheaper. But probably soon there will be very cheap Russian VPNs exactly for that.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200611161820/https://vpnscam.com/tesonet-data-mining-company-owns-nordvpn-protonmail-protonvpn/
Yuki Nagato · 2022-03-23 16:16
You can't scrape together $6 a month for Mullvad? Any free tech service is either runs on donations, is set up on your own hardware, or gets it's profits from your data.