lainchan / sec
Misuse of Israeli Surveillance Tech for Massive Violation of Human Rights
Gyula Kovacs · 2021-01-16 14:24
There is a criminal organization in Brazil using NSO Group's Pegasus to infect devices for hack for hire, to incite terrorism, blackmail people, produce illegal pornography and assist in assassinations. They also have other advanced malware, like UEFI implants and even persistent implants for Kindle and Raspberry Pi. Plus face/voice recognition on every camera and microphone they can get into, in public or private places.
Brazil won't do anything to stop them. Only the FBI, CIA and NSA can stop them.
There is also the possibility that they were engaged on the hack of Bezos' smartphone.
If you know of any security researcher who wants to reverse engineer the exploits they are using, I am more than willing to help them.
If you want a story about how they operate, I am willing to work with you to expose them.
Tyrell Wellick · 2021-01-16 15:35
>>14055
why would you risk your own life by assisting anyone trying to stop these guys? If they've been going at it for some time now and FBI & any other international policing agencies haven't stopped them yet. They probably know what they're doing, if they're assisting in assassinations as you've said why wouldn't they, say, assassinate anyone who comes any close to hindering their efforts?
Morpheus · 2021-01-16 15:39
>>14055
Seems like a larp, but then again people have whistleblown on 4chan and soykaf in the past.
I would be interested to know more or see some background since this could be big if true.
Masami Eiri · 2021-01-16 15:55
>>14055
Is there any possibility its actually a state actor masquerading as a criminal organisation? Its happened before and governments sometimes like to use shell entities to grant themselves plausible deniability.
Crash Override · 2021-01-16 15:59
>>14057
>larp
I don't get why this is replacing the term "roleplay". I mean, if someone is lying on the internet, that means he's not doing it in real life ("live-action").
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2021-01-16 16:09
>>14058
This is highly possible, but the concern here is not state actors pretending to be criminals (yet), it is criminals pretending to be state actors. The worst that a state could do is conduct espionage and try to blame it on criminals, but there would be skepticism since criminals seldom have strategic or international national level objectives. There were reports of NSO Pegasus being used by mexican cartel moles in the government to abuse software privileges. The governments that use it are ironically easy to identify, because they use specific targeting of individuals, and the dots can be connected to paint a picture of who would care about a select group of people.
>>14059
Its become internet slang. I just use it in the same way as young people these days do. Yes, I know it isn't the right word meaning, but words adapt new meaning with different use.
Acacius · 2021-01-16 17:04
>>14055
I heard Saudi Arabia was responsible for hacking into Bezos phone through WhatsApp? There's criminal organizations everywhere that are doing things like this. Leave it to the respective countries law enforcement to deal with...we're not your personal army. Also why do you think only the US will help? Do you think Brazil has no other allies?
Haruyoshi · 2021-01-16 17:16
>>14062
Google and Facebook have taken the lead on this, because it huts their business model of them keeping all your data safe. If people don't trust google or facebook with their data because their systems are compromised by bad actors, then their sales go down.
Hiro Protagonist · 2021-01-16 18:00
Take the steps required to keep yourself safe as much as possible - get Tor set up, make a new email address, set up PGP - first. Then go to https://securedrop.org/ and get in touch with people who can help you get this story out. SecureDrop is run by the Freedom of the Press Foundation.
Yeoja Aideul · 2021-01-17 05:22
>>14055
"""Israel""" and """Misuse""" hmm it seems to be a (((Coincidence)))
Ein · 2021-01-17 06:35
>>14079
>(((implying)))
Israel has been at the forefront of cyberweapons for decades. Their military industrial complex is based off of what they can sustainably produce. Many of their conventional weapons are not designed or built for export like their software industry. On the other hand, their cyberweapons created by people who spent their military service being paid to infiltrate and destroy targets via offensive penetration, or to conduct internal monitoring via ridiculously overreaching security measures are frequently sold as lucrative commercial products. Skills don't disappear after you stop working for a government that spends millions of dollars training you to do a thing, especially if you were conscripted and made to learn it.
The difference is where countries have a legal (in the international sense) obligation to play fair or else face consequences and be shunned by other nations, a private business will often only face problems if it takes action that could get it in legal trouble in its host nation.
The misuses alleged go back almost a decade, and the problems stated are that a company claims to have an ethical review process that is shrouded in mystery. this is not some conspiracy, it's just business. Heh, nothing personal kid.
Ivan Petrov · 2021-01-17 17:57
this guy does a lot of coverage of NSO
https://lorenzofb.com/
he has a ton of ways to contact him.
or you could always hit up Phineas.
Special Agent Bob · 2021-01-17 19:27
>>14055
>Brazil won't do anything to stop them.
>>14058
>Is there any possibility its actually a state actor masquerading as a criminal organization?
I don't know if that's true, but the fact that the government won't do anything seems consistent to me, and they probably never will. Brazil would have invested billions to have control over our internet like the US does if all of our politicians weren't technologically illiterate. Because of this I also don't think that this organization is a state actor (at least not for our government), because again, our politicians are too incompetent for that.
>>14062
>Do you think Brazil has no other allies?
We don't, at least not to the level of getting help for the investigation of criminal activity that doesn't impact them that much.
Miho Iwakura · 2021-01-17 22:25
>>14055
>There is a criminal organization in Brazil using NSO Group's Pegasus
Do you got any source on that, lainon? It can be a brazilian site.
Lain Iwakura · 2021-01-18 03:09
>>14083
I don't think the person you're replying to was implying anything that disagrees with what you've just said.
I thought what they were saying was that, "misuse" is a convenient word used for a state that's been known to violate human rights massively in the past.
Ivan Horvat · 2021-01-18 21:00
>>14055
hey nanon, nice too see you here.
So, i'm brazillian, how does it affect me?
Can you give more insight, some links?
I want to see more to decide on which side i want to be one, because if the objective is to cause havock on this nesse país de merda I'm with them
Haruyoshi · 2021-01-18 21:04
>>14102
agreed
>>14110
same
John Titor · 2021-01-18 23:40
>>14127
Baseado para caralho. But I think he's full of soykaf. I haven't heard anything about a hacker group in bruhzil with such capabilities in a long while.
>>14128
>Do you think Brazil has no other allies?
>We don't...
Maybe we don't, the thing is, if a group is THAT powerful, other countries will act in concern for the possible spread of such acts and methods in fear it could one day affect them. But then again, there is a high chance it could just be related to the government, either with them or against them. (wouldn't be the first time in Brazil hackers try to mess with arround with politicians and government).
We need some sauce, proof... literally ANYTHING, parceiro.
Hiro Protagonist · 2021-01-18 23:42
>>14128
>>14131
tagged the wrong post, meant to tag the one you replied to.
Roy Batty · 2021-01-21 02:52
>>14055
This is about the TI program, right?
Just the thread I was looking for because it's time to strike back.
Dox · 2021-02-02 08:23
>>14191
The TI program?
Dox · 2021-02-03 18:52
>>14397
Texas Instruments. Those dastardly bastards are masterly gangsters!
Leto Atreides I · 2021-02-11 09:07
>>14055
NYPA
also I don't like how you have a suspect and certain with it through the way you wrote it out which looked like journalist clickbait.
I think a "country" isn't representative of a few bad individuals.
You could be just someone who wants to freeload off of someone's reverse engineered code and sell it for your own gain or government. You should know better.
Ender · 2021-02-11 18:14
>>14493
One red flag here is this in my opinion:
>If you know of any security researcher who wants to reverse engineer the exploits they are using, I am more than willing to help them.
Reminds me of the recent North Korean social engineering campaign targeting researchers.
Cowboy · 2021-02-11 19:14
OP is just bullshitting, common now. Easy to spot fake news.
Ender · 2021-03-09 03:07
OP is just your typical semi-literate Brazilian glowie, embarassed by his own incompetence. This idiot spammed every technology board he could find. Why the human rights charade? Zero fuarrrks to your "criminal organization", pal. Just delete yourself.
Switch · 2021-04-16 02:23
Just give me their name... I’m not a cop ( ° ʖ °)
Special Agent Bob · 2021-05-06 00:47
>>14057
It's not larp.
Pretty common for exploits like the kind of Pegasus or UFED to be in the hands of the wrong people.
>big if true
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