Books for Lains : Little Brother

Alice, have you ever read Corry Doctrow's Little Brother? Although published in 2008 , its almost the perfect book for young lains to get a broad and useful introduction to the kind of California Counter Culture that underlies Hacker Politics. Through the format of a young adult story, things like meshnets, darknets, gait recognition, biometrics, pervasive mass surveillance, RFID tags, linux, Tor and other things are introduced. The book plays out arguments about the effectiveness of mass surveillance, of secret police, and discuss the meaning of terrorism. I feel like the book is perhaps a perfect introduction for a Young Adult to politics that pervade the wired. Perhaps most amazing, the book is Creative Commons, meaning you are free to share it legally - this concept is also explained by the book. The book has been called too subversive and dark for children. The book is an extraordinarily easy read, and I think there is little reason that any lainnon shouldn't read and share it. What does Alice think?

>>12178 Download Here: https://craphound.com/littlebrother/download/

There is second part as well, is it any good from story line standpoint? https://libgen.lc/search.php?req=Little+Brother+Cory+Doctorow&open=0&res=100&view=detailed&phrase=1&column=def I'm afraid modern Californian 17 year-olds don't care about anything above Tik Tok, Snapchat and Belarusian Lives Matter protests advertised by their flavor of influencer celebrity.

>>12178 >Hacker Politics >Hacker >Politics No.

>>12181 If you would like to read more about hacker Politics checkout Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias - Peter Ludlow from MIT Press and Levy's Crypto Wars .

>>12188 >muh crypto Never gonna happen. Doesn't matter how decentralized your soykaf is when ultimately it has to pass through the physical realm controlled by the state.

>>12178 >>12181 >Cory Doctorow That's exactly why I haven't read it.

>>12189 >muh crypto Well neither of those books are about Cryptocurrency. Crypto by Levy is a history of Cryptography and Research in the US and details the story about how The Electronic Frontier Foundation, The Cyperpunks, colleges and hackers fought and won. Ludlow's work is a collection of manifesto's and journal articles that surround the politics of hacking. Perhaps politics is the wrong word.. Hacker "Politics" focus on direct action and independently developed solutions. Works like the CyberPunk Manifesto don't ask you to vote, but the do express a coherent ideology that many would call "Political". Are works like Guerilla Open Access Manifesto apolitical?

>>12180 The story isn't bad. It follows a youth falsely arrested in the after math of a terrorist attack, who leads a grass roots resistance. Its written for Young Adults , and parts of the story are over the top. I liked it.

its a good book, its definitely for young adults i read the first two.

>>12189 the whole point of crypto is so it cant be MITM attacked.

>>12188 There's no such thing as "hacker politics". Technology is just a tool. If someone tells you you need certain politics to be a "real" hacker or something then you're just getting scammed, kid.

>>12196 Hacker politics = being independent and/or communalist opposite to relying on corporations and being good consoomer. Clearly the kid whose city fracks him in the ass has to rely on oneself and his close peers, not the valley corporations or government.

I'm wondering whether this book will be more like 90's cyberpunk novels Snowcrash/Headcrash or modern exploitation crap like Ready PlayerOne.

>>12199 Its hard to call "LIttle Brother" a cyberpunk novel. Although it does future a protagonist "on the run" from the government core cyberpunk features are missing: Society has decayed beyond Authoritarian America and San Francisco normally. There are no real "hackers" in the sense of computer intrusions. There is no human body modifications / transhumanism. The book has been called 1984 for kids. Its the arguments we needed about mass surveillance and authoritarianism in 2008. The book also introduces a bunch of real technology like Tor to the reader. Reading the book isn't going to be equivalent to reading privacy threads here, but it does introduce hacker *culture* broadly and /sec/ tools along with political arguments relevant to anti-authoritarian hackers.

>>12200 Hmmm I might pick it up then, I remember when I was around 12 my father gave me his copy of 1984 and told me to read the whole thing, but at the time I was more interested in sci-fi so I thought it was pretty boring. I also disagree that hackers are political, Hacking =/= Hactivism which I think is an important point to make even though that line is often blurred in modern society. Plenty of other books also reference hacker tools and culture from the eyes of children. Atwood Oryx and Crake pretty much starts as kids adventures on the darkweb. There are plenty of young adult books that are also cyberpunk that I have not bothered to read because the stories seem to simple to me, some of which went pretty mainstream.

Fortunate fiction only discourages, satisfies the 'if' so you do nothing about the nearing reality it imitates.

>>12214 I agree that inaction is an issue with cyber boards. People let perfect be the enemy of the good. I think less time arguing and more time producing is good. However, I also think there is a place for literature to inspire us. Little Brother is the book I wish I read as a child.

An onion router is an Internet site that takes requests for web-pages and passes them onto other onion routers, and on to other onion routers, until one of them finally decides to fetch the page and pass it back through the layers of the onion until it reaches you. The traffic to the onion-routers is encrypted, which means that the school can't see what you're asking for, and the layers of the onion don't know who they're working for. There are millions of nodes — the program was set up by the US Office of Naval Research to help their people get around the censorware in countries like Syria and China, which means that it's perfectly designed for operating in the confines of an average American high school. TOR works because the school has a finite blacklist of naughty addresses we aren't allowed to visit, and the addresses of the nodes change all the time — no way could the school keep track of them all. The whole plot is built around very loose and weak strawmen, it's not a 1984 for kids, it's a bunch of 80's school movie cliches and outright carbon copied situations sprinkled with technobabble about modern surveillance technology. Maybe it should be called "1984, 10th anniversary edition, rewritten and reduced by the MinRed (Ministry of Reddit)". For those who do not want to fill their heads with useless adolescent fiction, I recommend starting with Thomas More's Utopia, it's a rather light reading with zero ideology, just a concept of perfect society form early Renaissance era, gives light introduction to some societal ideas still controversial up to day, then follow the 20th century ascension: "We", "Alexei Gastev and the Soviet Controversy over Taylorism 1918-1924" to understand it, "Brave New World", then you should have a basic understanding of class divisions in British society at the turn of the century, and only then you should read 1984. Spoler: no, 1984 is not about ebul totalitarian government who tries to keep us down.

Drink every time a Unitedstatian author mentions brand name in his book. Chapter 2 This chapter is dedicated to Amazon.com, the largest Internet bookseller in the world. Amazon is amazing — a "store" where you can get prac- tically any book ever published (along with practically everything else, from laptops to cheese-graters), where they've elevated recommendations to a high art, where they allow customers to directly communicate with each other, where they are constantly invented new and better ways of connecting books with readers. Amazon has always treated me like gold — the founder, Jeff Bezos, even posted a reader-review for my first nov- el! — and I shop there like crazy (looking at my spreadsheets, it appears that I buy something from Amazon approximately every six days). Amazon's in the process of reinventing what it means to be a bookstore in the twenty-first century and I can't think of a better group of people to be facing down that thorny set of problems.

>>12218 Did you read the book? The book is free as in gratis and libre, its creative commons and even legally allows derivatives. You can go to the authors official homepage and download it, which is apparently what you or some one did. In the book the author explains he is going to dedicate each chapter to a book store, and details his experiences with the store and why. If you don't like this content, you can remove it, derivatives are allowed. The author claims that he wasn't sponosored but that he is listing places that you can buy his book. If a creative commons book is too commercial for you, then remove the content, derivatives are allowed, and he explained in the beginning what it is and why its there. I am hard pressed to call a creative commons DRM free ebook that allows derivatives excessively commercial.

>>12217 This book isn't a textbook. It doesn't explain the difference between Web sites and routers, or how a TCP/IP stack works. Its written for you adults generally, not a necessarily aspiring IT. I think teaching teenagers and young adults about Tor, is a pretty radical idea, and possibly one of the only ways to bring about the culture change that /cyber/ boards seem to want.

>>12198 >Hacker politics = being independent and/or communalist opposite to relying on corporations and being good consoomer. That's just politics. It's got nothing to do with hacking. Don't let yourself get brainwashed by people adding politics to your hobbies (pic related).

>>12232 Its understandable that a guy posting MAGA imagery would object to Doctrow play down the long standing politics implicit in hacking. Hackers have a longstanding tradition of writing political manifestos that advocate strong for a certain commonality of things including Freedom of Information and the right to privacy. If you think Little Brother is a book about convincing kids to accept transexuals, homosexuals, minorities or w/e its not. The book is focused on surveillance and access to information but hacker culture is pretty clear on this: >Wikipedia on Hacker Culture Hackers should be judged by their hacking, not bogus criteria such as degrees, age, race, or position.

>>12196 I think it just happens that people with certain political opinions don't become hackers. People who are not interested in challenging the consumerist know-nothing lifestyle would have no reason to run counter to it, which is the essence of hacking. People who challenge the consumerist know-nothing lifestyle(which is the "default" in most industrial nation-states) tend to have political views outside the mainstream.

>>12240 >guy posting MAGA imagery Don't let yourself get brainwashed by people adding politics to your hobbies. Just because someone photoshopped a red hat on your favorite anime characters doesn't mean you have to support Trump. Just because a clique of hackers you admire write a manifesto or book on politics doesn't mean you need to read it like a bible. >Hackers have a longstanding tradition of writing political manifestos You mean some spergs who write political manifestos also happen to be hackers. >advocate strong for a certain commonality of things People with high trait Openness tend to like technology and progressive politics. That's where the overlap you're referring to comes from. Like how people who are highly open to same sex experiences also tend to be highly open to immigration. That doesn't mean there is a "Gay Politics" and open borders is part of it. There are plenty of people in tech running in the opposite direction, especially in infosec. New technology means untested code, bigger attack surface, more vulnerabilities. Keep everything as stable and minimal as possible. People who think along those lines are most likely to be conservative with their politics too. Someone who tries to convince you there is a "hacker politics" all hackers believe is just exploiting you. Like the anime girls with the MAGA hats. You want to be a real hacker don't you kid....? >Hackers should be judged by their hacking, not bogus criteria such as degrees, age, race, or position. That is correct. But I don't see what it's got to do with the rest of your post. Hacking is about hacking and nothing else, is pretty much my point.

>>12240 >Freedom of Information and the right to privacy Ok if you love freedom of information so much, remove your root passwd and forward port 22 through your NAT then. Make sure you respect my privacy by disabling syslog. No? How dare you call yourself a Real Hacker you pathetic larper.

doesn't this belong on /lit/?

>>12190 >>Cory Doctorow who?

>>12246 Little Brother suits /sec/ more than /lit/ lains, alice. The book is about a grass roots decentralized resistance to government surveillance, and includes mentions of real technology. >>12253 Sci-Fi writer who is mainstream despite having published his books as Creative Commons. >>12245 >Ok if you love freedom of information so much, remove your root passwd and forward port 22 through your NAT then. Disingenuous strawman is poor form alice. No one has ever suggested freedom of information means anything like that. >>12244 >Just because a clique of hackers you admire write a manifesto or book on politics doesn't mean you need to read it like a bible. Agreed lain. I don't think that Doctrow's ideas are religiously correct. I do think he is giving a teen oriented narrative on the kinda stuff you'd see at Defcon. I think that has value of /sec/-lains who are young. I think thats useful.

>>12258 >No one has ever suggested freedom of information means anything like that. So you agree that some information should be free. And some information needs to be private. "Freedom of Information" is a meaningless slogan then. Tell me again how deep and universal your "hacker politics" is. >lains who are young Not too young to read the rules I hope.

>>12244 hacker should be judged on intellect and hard work just like most other jobs

>>12260 >"Freedom of Information" is a meaningless slogan then. Presumably my data and people I like should be private and data of people I don't like should be free. Rules for thee but not for me, is the basis of pretty much all leftist politics.

>>12266 >>12260 You have to go back. Please don't fuarrrk up my lainchan because 8chan is fubar. There is still a hidden service.

>>12268 >3. Always argue in good faith and avoid using personal attacks. >6. Do not whine and cry about 8chan If you can't think of a valid response then face the fact that you're probably wrong.

>>12268 What is the criteria to separating freedom of information from privacy then? >inb4 you don't know you just wanted to attack someone who thinks differently That's not very hacker of you is it.

>>12260 >No one has ever suggested freedom of information means anything like that. >So you agree that some information should be free. >And some information needs to be private. >"Freedom of Information" is a meaningless slogan then. >Tell me again how deep and universal your "hacker politics" is. >>12266 >Presumably my data and people I like should be private and data of people I don't like should be free. Rules for thee but not for me, is the basis of pretty much all leftist politics. Privacy for the Weak. Transparency for the Powerful. - Julian Assange

>>12272 >Privacy for the Weak. >Transparency for the Powerful. Oh good, another oppression olympics. How do you decide who is privileged^W "powerful" and who is "weak"? Who decides?

>>12270 >What is the criteria to separating freedom of information from privacy then? >inb4 you don't know you just wanted to attack someone >who thinks differently >That's not very hacker of you is it. I actually just wanted to avoid getting into a long autistic argument with a guy who is arguing in bad faith anyway. This thread is not supposed to be about "Freedom of Information" or "if hackers have politics". Pro tip: They do. You can read any history of computing , try litterally any of Levy's works, and they will detail the connections of Left Leaning Libertarians (Crypto - Levy) and Counter Culture Movements in Computing ( Hackers : Heros of the Computer Revolution). You strawmanned my arugment by insisting that by accepting "Freedom of Information", I was implying that I should provide the world SSH credentials. Its just bad faith. You know it. Your pretending. But, I will give an argument in good faith: Freedom of Information is actually just Free Speech. Its the right to put what you want out into the world. According to the US constitution, Crypt-anarchists, libertarians, and actual, enlightenment liberals, this is the default condition. Few restrictions can be imposed on speech and are. Freedom of Information is the default. Very few types of speech ("providing information"), are actually limited. The most notable restriction is Copyright. Copyright was imposed original in Britian for the purpose of censoring free-speech to serve the government. The americans corrected this: In the US constitution congress is granted the ability to restrict free speech, imposing copyright only as much as it serves to "promote the useful arts and sciences". The original American copyright term was only 7 years. This has grown hyperexpansively as corporations have asserted there right to own our culture for profit and this has impeded "useful arts and sciences". Ironically, there was constitutional questions about what kind of material could be copyright written, but this was ultimately settled as "everything", clearly the founders intent. More about copyright can be read in Lawernce Lessigs "Free Culture". Outside of copyright, Freedom of Information has the right to uncensored media, and access government information, and the inability to limit what is said about you by others. Freedom of information is the default. What are you actually even disputing? Is your claim really just about copyright? Perhaps you want censored media? This thread is supposed to be about books for the younger crowd that come on here. What is your actual issue?

>>12274 >This thread is not supposed to be about "if hackers have politics" >>12178 >its almost the perfect book for young lains to get a broad and useful introduction to the kind of California Counter Culture that underlies Hacker Politics >You strawmanned my arugment by insisting that by accepting "Freedom of Information", I was implying that I should provide the world SSH credentials. Its just bad faith. I've already clarified this several times. The point was to show you that "Freedom of Information" is not as simple as you pretend it is and force you to think deeper about it. The way you continue to ignore my elaborations and stick to your first most uncharitable interpretation of my words is the real bad faith here. >Copyright was imposed original in Britian for the purpose of censoring free-speech to serve the government. Imagine you spend a year writing a book and the moment you publish it, someone else comes along, reprints it with his own machines and takes all the money. You obviously need a law to prevent that otherwise nobody would bother publishing any original work. That's what copyright actually is. So there is a strong argument copyright actually helps the flow of information. Also Britain has no constitution, the government can censor whatever they want, whenever they want. It doesn't make sense that they need to invent the concept of copyright and then hijack it for state censorship. Where do you get this story from? >Outside of copyright, Freedom of Information has the right to uncensored media, and access government information, and the inability to limit what is said about you by others. So now we're back to the question of where does freedom of information end and privacy start? Before you said transparency for the strong and privacy for the weak. Which just brings further questions >>12273 Now you're saying transparency only for the government? What are you actually even disputing? Is your claim really just about copyright? Perhaps you want censored media? You really should make more effort to understand other people's points before you cry so much about bad faith. What you've outlined here about copyright and censorship is just standard anti-government anarchy/libertarian stuff. The name "hacker politics" implies all hackers believe that or should believe that. Why? It seems to me someone is just for forcing their own personal politics onto a neutral hobby to try and get more converts. >>12232 Your hobby is not your identity and your identity is not your politics. >This thread is supposed to be about books for the younger crowd that come on here. 0. Do not post in or view any boards if you are under 18 years of age. >What is your actual issue? I'm trying to understand what is this "hacker politics" you are trying to brainwash children with.

>>12274 >Freedom of information is the default. Is your claim really just about copyright? Perhaps you want censored media? What about instructions on how to manufacture all the chemical and biological weapons the CDC keeps locked down. Should that be published? What about nuclear missiles? That information should be free too right? GPS coordinates of all soldiers? What about the algorithms used by jet fighters to evade radar? You can't censor math, right? What about elections? We should know who voted for who right? That's government information so shouldn't be censored right? Before you get on your fuarrrking high horse again I'm not "strawmanning" you. I'm inviting you to elaborate on your position. Are these absolute statements you're making? Or are there limits? How do you decide where those limits are? Who decides? It's almost as if real world politics is more complex and nuanced than the twitter hashtags you're used to. >I actually just wanted to avoid getting into a long autistic argument with a guy who is arguing in bad faith anyway. You mean you don't want to talk to anyone who disagrees with you. Here's a protip for you, if your ideas are so fragile that you can't defend them and throw soyfit instead then your ideas are probably wrong and need updating.

>>12279 Not the person you are quoting, but you are now going into edge case per case details instead of tying to find a general principle to be able to judge if that info is better open to the public or not. >What about instructions on how to manufacture all the chemical and biological weapons the CDC keeps locked down. Should that be published? Edge case. >What about nuclear missiles? That information should be free too right? Edge case. >GPS coordinates of all soldiers? Edge case. >What about the algorithms used by jet fighters to evade radar? You can't censor math, right? Edge case. >What about elections? We should know who voted for who right? That's government information so shouldn't be censored right? Edge case. Three of you points are weapon manufacturing One point is military strategy/tactics The last point is a case about democracy. To begin with the last point is obvious, if we do not want coercion during elections that information should remain private. I understood elections like public elections, USA president vote. In other cases like votes in an elected assembly (A senate, a parlament voting a law), those people represent people other then themselves and thus should have the vote visible (at least to the people they are representing) . The three cases about weapon manufacturing are hard to decide. On the one hand the general mechanic and the consequences of such products are known, but the exact manufacturing process is not. Perhaps some useful derivative process could be found by making such information public, but it's better not to due to foreign adversaries, and mad men. Those cases should be ruled each one after another, based on current technological understanding and the risks of that information being misused. If some knowledge allows you to build a super bomb in undetectable easy manner, then sure it's a no go. On the other hand if that process makes something barely better than widespread knowledge, hard to pull off and is very detectable then it should be published. The one about the GPS positions should remain private in the immediate and the short term until it is no longer tactically and strategically relevant. But on the other hands it's rather nice to know where your soldiers have been and what they have been doing there. Especially it the soldiers know that any bad behavior will have consequences. (Let's avoid having stuff for thousand of wiki-leak articles produced) Basically each of edge case have arguable solutions as long as you follow a guiding principle : The public's best interest. The hard part will be keeping that decision making neutral and timely.

>>12322 I am the person he is trying to argue with and I am not responding because the thread isn't about Freedom of Information., nor is his argument even. His politics/culture w/e isn't aligned with Traditional 'Hacker Culture' / Politics (IE. things like Cyberpunk Manfiesto, Hacker Manifesto, ..), and so he is trying to pretend that Hacking has always been apolitical and disintrested, ironically while posting MAGA images. This thread isn't about that. This thread is supposed to be about how young poeple could be educated about "Hacking Culture" by reading a novel. This is similiar the Jules Vernes or Andy Wier's "The Martian" which seek to incorperate real world details to educate the reader. Except, Doctrow , incorporates things of interest to cyber-anons like Tor, Arguments against mass surveillance, Linux, meshnets. Doctrow doesn't spend any time selling homosexual or transsexual acceptance, or leftist labour learning politics, or really *anything* accept No mass serveilance, secret police, and use of tech in punk way to resist. There is no reason even a right leaning cyberpunk shouldn't appreciate at least the idea of the book. I think his objections have more to do with 'canceling' Doctrow. For the record, I don't care for Doctrow's view on cryptocurrency. But, you can appreciate the book without embracing him.

>>12322 >Edge case. Edge case. Edge case. Edge case. Edge case. Basically anything defense needs to be confidential to be effective. Since national defense is basically the only thing libertarians want from the state, and anachists don't want a state at all, that makes a pretty big contradiction in this "hacker politics" you're making up. >The public's best interest. The journey so far: >information should be free >not MY information though >only the "powerful" >I guess "powerful" just means government >oops but not that or that or that or that..... >Whatever is the "public's best interest" then So we're back to where we started, how do you decide what's "public's best interest" and who decides? And more importantly for this thread, what makes you think that all "hackers" would vote the same way? Your hobby is not your identity and your identity is not your politics.

>>12323 You are maliciously misrepresenting my position out of anger and spite. It would be better for you to just walk away and develop your thoughts a bit more.

>>12323 >he is trying to pretend that Hacking has always been apolitical and disintrested, ironically while posting MAGA images. Why don't you quote the actual text of the post you're referring to ( >>12232 ) and see if your argument still makes sense? If it doesn't then that's you acting in very bad faith.

>>12178 I have read the book up to around 2/3th of it's volume, and have to say that at the moment when the MC took both his parents and they all drove to father of his disappeared friend I'd call this whole thing a huge load of bullcrap an a weak farce. Yes, there are a lot of munchkinisms and overblown misunderstandings of simple technologic concepts described by your regular "tech journalist" who reads more comic-books than manual pages for tools he describes, but this is a huge blow-off. Remember when, the spooks tell the kid they'll be watching his every step, and if it didn't mean literally setting up a targeted surveillance DDR Stasi style, but it would definitely mean tappinghis family phone lines at phone switching station level and Internet connection (not putting a lame physical keylogger from urban folklore about NSA, as if huge decrease in usage of keylogged laptop wouldn't indicate abnormal behavior and compromise, and the total overlook of school-issued already legally tapped devices by the law enforcement authorities seems improbable as well), tracking their mobile phones to the point when both parent's phone signals (I'm not talking about real license plate scanning cameras that would definitely be installed first in a totalitarian situation like this, instead of relying on those lame ass easily-skimmed RFID tags are just another example of overblown weak munchkin premise) appeared close to a house of MC's friend's father's house, a death squad would have arrived in 15 minutes tops. The fact that the kid freeroams city and indulges in numerous questionable contacts in such free fashion for the duration of the whole story despite total surveillance being installed everywhere at the beginning of the story is such a weak frivolous presumption that appears to be laughable in a world where a mild flu infection had caused a stricter travel control on populations in different nations even less technologically sophisticated than Bay Area USA. Maybe it's just 2008 and "next Saturday fiction". Man, those were the days, eh. Can someone explain me how their network of piggy-backed X-boxes survived more than a week? I'd say it's a 3/10 "wow, he's totally like me" kind of toilet reading fiction, so-so for tech-addicts lain alike, but it wouldn't push a regular middle school kid to become interested in technology and privacy this way, or so I understand, and it hardly convinces a technologically-literate person believe it's ridiculous munchkinisms, especially with such unnecessary pornographic and cliche descriptions of the filler scenes. And if you're looking for classic dystopia plot lines and understanding of totalitarianism, some frogposter above had mentioned a rough route to follow. By the way, wasn't San Francisco mentioned in the second part of Watch Dogs video game, is this an adaptation? >Hacker Marcus Holloway, punished for a crime he did not commit through ctOS 2.0 Ugh, seems like so. First part was definitely a mix of Assassin's Creed mechanics and Person of Interest TV show. Great fiction to build up paranoia, btw, all the stuff they described in 2011-2013 is real nowadays. Ironically, such games are made by Ubisoft. Also, the Little Brother nomen is usually used for sous-veillance/personal life-logging technology and societal models built around it, some journalists have called smartphones (in both user-restraining and liberating sense) this way. The book describes and encourages this sort of "grassroots" reverse-surveillance of the authorities and the government, and it's probably the cause why it have received a bunch of meme lolbertarian fiction awards.

I've read the first two books, is the third worth getting, I wasn't all that impressed with the second one.

>>12343 There's a third one? I've read Little Brother and Homeland, but there's another part to the series I'm unaware of?

>>12382 I was thinking about 2.5 i guess but they're 4 books https://www.goodreads.com/series/81824-little-brother

>>12383 Thanx for the link. I think I might really enjoy Attack Surface.

>>12273 Not him but a bit of mutualist ideology usually cuts through this. Understand that all information is naturally free but that is not necessarily good since individuals naturally also want privacy. The question is: How much do we want to restrict everyone's liberty to protect any individual privacy? Within the domain of the internet and computers: everyone ought have their personal data protected as their property with which they can give or sell access to as they please. However, this right is not transferrable and that not is an infringement on one's liberty since this right was to infringe on others liberty. Example: a internet artist can sell their works for a price and have their copyright on their works enforced. But the copyright cannot be sold. And this isn't an infringement on the artist's liberties since 'copyright' is inherently an infringement on other peoples liberty.

>>12178 Oh i remember this book, i think it really influenced my views on many things. I was like 14-15 when i read it, it is really easy to read and it is a great entry point to "hacker culture" or whatever. In retrospect it also got most of the technical stuff right. I see that others have an issue with the word "politics" but i dont think they understand the meaning of the word.

>>12178 Just finished the book. Author completely blows public key cryptography description continuously confusing message encryption with signing, he also overestimated power of a DNS tunnel calling it anonymous, he probably inserted it as a last cool thing in the plot very novel of the time of writing. Now to the plot: deus ex machina on deus ex machina, there are so many coincidences and over-the-head plot holes that this novel hardly becomes believable to my acquired taste of dystopia genre reader and experiencer of even worse reality. The whole situation of good State guys coming and pwning bad Fed guys off the premises, life liberty and pursuit for burger winning in the end is such an alien event to me. Seems plausible for 2006 walmartia, sounds like complete bullshit today. Maybe I'm judging from my perspective of a unitary nation state citizen where local government just ships riot police comprised of villagers from poorest region of the country who totally hate "Sodom and Gomorrah of users and atheists who deserve to rot in hell" of the city in question, to quote the text of the book, they don't hesitate beating children, pregnant women and pensioners into bloody pulp and throwing them in jail at least with leaders getting more prison time than murderers, at least they don't ship them to Syria (how many times did I tell you they ship ordinary children like you and me to Syria for interrogation, dear reader?). I give it 2 out of 7 for being a decent texploitation fiction, unlike a generic cyberpunk novel it shows things very raw, even pornogrpahic in detail with very little artistic element, I guess that's because author is a journalist, not a fiction writer by his trade. Bruce Schneier's epigraph is pretty cringe: "I develop all the surveillance technology described in this book, but it's OK to be ethical hacker, fellow kids, come be employed in corporations with ye hacker skills" Question is: is it good enough to interest young people in technology? I don't think so. All the techiespeak is delivered like I'm reading a current year Wired website article for people with IQ below room temperature (Celsius), every time I seen lines actually. technology X is breddy good, it works like this: "a bunch of made-up bullshit" I wanted to close the reader window and go out for a walk.