Disappear

Which is the best way to disappear from the Internet?

>>12153 Don't be an attention whore and make quality content.

Don’t use it and you’ll disappear soon enough. You should assume that anything on the Internet will stay there until it rots - therefore the only way to disappear is to stop adding new content and let old content disappear over time. This could take many years and isn’t guaranteed to work - content likely won’t actually disappear, but it won’t be indexed as readily.

Find all information on you and see if you can delete it in some way. Delete accounts that you don't use and for the ones you do consider using a new Email address. The only data that will have a chance to stay around on the internet is any data that can be sold to advertisement firms or data brokers.

>>12157 "ones you do /keep/ consider using a new Email address" I need to get my vision check. I keep making typos

>>12157 >that one cringe post you made in 2008 on a large unsinkable site and that you will never be able to take down

>>12159 I have one or two cringe Blogger comments from 10 years ago attached to my uncommon real name + last name. They are the first results you get when you look it up on any search engine. I know that feel.

>>12153 use public or hacked wifi. spoof your MAC. get a username and password generator script to create accounts with. never use the same user name or password on more tham on site or service. avoid honeypot "anonymity" software like Tor (financed by US DoD) and I2P (Written in java) and Freenet (confirmed honeypot) or any other network that claims to be "Anonymous", they are all completely full of soykaf and every single last one of the devs are on the governments payroll.

>>12170 >avoid honeypot "anonymity" software like Tor (financed by US DoD) and I2P (Written in java) and Freenet (confirmed honeypot) or any other network that claims to be "Anonymous", they are all completely full of soykaf and every single last one of the devs are on the governments payroll. those are some mighty big claims, got anything to back them up?

>>12171 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network) >The bulk of the funding for Tor's development has come from the federal government of the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2P >Written in: Java Not sure how being written in Java makes it a honeypot, and I can find nothing about Freenet.

>>12172 >engineered by NSA >psyop moment when Snowden announced "hey the NSA is spying on you" Holy ѕһіt no joke? No Such Agency is spying on the American public? Omfglol >Snowden's prescription: use tor If you don't think it's a honeypot, have fun. >But it's open source and crypto! Do you understand how to suss out cryptography flaws? Have you read the source? Do you know what obfuscated code is? Do you know how much money the three letter agencies spend scalping high-level infosec talent from all over the world? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG These were physical encryption machines. Doesn't get much more open-source than that. One could just take it apart, and the encryption scheme was published and well-known worldwide. Yet it was a honeypot propagated by the CIA—intended to convince actors around the world (both private and national) that they were sending secure communiques. But they weren't. It wasn't detected for decades. Maybe tor is secure. I know the rationale: that it is meant to cover lots of random individuals as a way of truly covering deep cover US intelligence agents around the world, like needles in a haystack. But I also know how everything has a good reason and a real reason. The fact that they admit anything is highly suspect. Maybe it's okay? But are you seriously going to take these people at their word? Come on, don't be a useful idiot. Their track record is more than clear at this point. If you're not doing any particularly suspicious actions, fine. Have a blast. But if you're doing anything real... Please don't have a false sense of security. Just don't be too complacent. I don't know or care what it is, but if it's remotely political in nature, expect the van. Just know that if you ever believe a channel is a sure thing, it's almost definitely not a sure thing. Use your animal instincts. If you have none? Stay out. You're being exploited—it's assured. I can prove nothing. But can you? On your own work? I can raise clear and alarming possibilities. Understand how risk assessment works at these levels and act accordingly. That's all I can recommend.

>>12172 >>12173 And I realize you are raising essentially the same concerns. Don't take this as a personal attack aimed at you by any means—I am only pointing out uncertainties in addition to yours for the sake of onlookers.

>>12173 You use something like SSL or TLS, maybe OTR or GPG?

>>12170 Tor indeed has a lot of well-known weaknesses, which may not always be obvious, but >I2P (Written in java) this is just spilling the soykaf. I2P is well-documented, with a whole page dedicated for enlisting possible attacks. They are transparent about this, so you can use their solution safely. https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/threat-model Although the implementation language should not be considered a weakness, let me point you to the alternative C++ implementation. https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd Obviously you didn't do your research nor did you put in enough effort to compose an argument. If you still stand by your statement, please elaborate. >and Freenet (confirmed honeypot) A portion of freenet was run by Canadian law enforcement, as wikipedia phrases it - in the hope of determining who is requesting illegal material. They knew what the information they were looking for looked like. Their method of interception was based on a false premise, though. Details are available here: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/oncj/doc/2017/2017oncj729/2017oncj729.html Decide for youself whether presence of some malicious nodes on a decentralized network makes it a honeypot. Not necessarily a concern, but it's something Lain should be aware of. Anyway, the wiki sheds more light at Freenet's shortcomings. https://github.com/freenet/wiki/wiki I suggest reading it for anyone investigating freenet as an option. It is still valid for many purposes.

>>12173 >Have you read the source? Do you know what obfuscated code is? I have, and Tor's source is easily the most well-organized and readable C code I've ever seen. Maybe you should focus on the known attacks that are inherent with Tor's low-latency nature. I am aware of such things and I would never assume that Tor is impregnible. But I've also seen no evidence that it is actually a honeypot.

How do you even delete e-mail accounts?

>>12177 I'm not defending don't use Tor because muh guvoment or don't use i2p because muh jawa but... > let me point you to the alternative C++ implementation. Which is written by people who don't actual know C++ and is full of memory corruption bugs https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/issues?q=buffer+overflow+is%3Aissue (ironically the exact type of people who Java was invented for) Would not recommend at all if you care about security. Just use the proper Java implementation. >Their method of interception was based on a false premise, though. Details are available here: Freenet's design is more fundamentally flawed than that. If enough of your immediate neighbors collaborate they can track which files are going into your node but not coming out again i.e. what files you're downloading. That's why the project itself admits that Freenet is completely broken without "darknet" mode which basically just means only connect to nodes you 100% trust. But that defeats the whole fuarrrking point of an anonymity network. https://github.com/freenet/wiki/wiki/Darknet >>12170 >use public or hacked wifi. spoof your MAC You should learn a thing or two about dhcp if you want to do that. MAC address is not the only thing you need to worry about. >avoid honeypot "anonymity" software That's dumb. Even if they don't work as well as you want, anything that lengthens the time before your activity is traced back to the physical wifi network is better for you because there will be less evidence of you actually being there (e.g. cctv, cellular logs, witnesses actually remembering you etc.).

I assume when you say "dissapear", you mean you want to become "dox proof" (lmao skid term). To do this, conduct an OSINT investigation on yourself and see what comes up. Start deleting old accounts and/or fill them with fake data. Never use personal info anywhere, use encryption, use an VPN/VPS, use either a live boot distro like Tails, or use a VM inside a veracrypt container. Use a secure DNS server and spoof your MAC address, spoff your browser useragent and so on. Another good trick is to file DMCA takedown requests on amy websites or data that has any of your personal information. Only works if the data is hosted in the USA, but still worth a shot.

>>12154 This hit the feels so hard. What have we become?

There's a great author called Michael Bazzell who writes books on this subject. He's basically the authority on both cyberstalking and and disappearing after someone cyberstalks you Disappearing from both from the Internet and real life, I soykaf you not, he wrote a whole book about making yourself an IRL man of mystery called Extreme Privacy: What it takes to Disappear in America I've read all three of his books and they are all really good and worth buying The one you want is Hiding fro m the Internet: Eliminating Personal Online Information

>>12319 I am forever grateful to my parents for giving me one of the most generic real names in the english-speaking world. I'm basically ungoogleable, even if someone includes my middle name, profession, and home city. They gave me a 21st century superpower.

>>12328 I always used nicknames because my name is super lame, so as of today my vanity searches give no results. And I've built up a completely irrational paranoia about cyberstalking so this was a real blessing in retrospect. If I had lots of public stuff online I would have gone insane.

>>12328 I got married and changed my last name to a last name from another ethnicity. If you Google me there's 1 page of results, and they're all garbage like those pages with lists of 10,000 phone numbers and fake names. If you DuckDuckGo me there's literally 1 result, also garbage. I don't exist. I hope it stays that way.

>>12333 The flip side of this is that once you are on there, you'll be easy to find. Much better to have a name like Jose Garcia.

>What is the best way to disappear from the Internet? Step 1: Ensure your private data never touched the internet. What? You mean you put out some private data? Good luck. You can try learning all the systems that any your emitted data touched (you did record all your activity, didn't you?) to figure out how to remove them. Don't forget: offline copies. Can you alter them?

>>12153 Fake death. Though your problem would be you are now landlocked.

>>12153 >tfw first results for my full name on gewgle are a court case

>>12434 >Anon Smith >1 results >Court case regarding the rape of an 11 year old girl at knife point Sounds like someone we should hire

>>12184 >You should learn a thing or two about dhcp if you want to do that. >MAC address is not the only thing you need to worry about. Pretty familiar with it, having run multiple DHCP servers over the years. Not sure what you're getting at.

Just use Tor and never any persistent pseudonyms. New identity every time, no repeated patterns.

Not OP, but I just want to completely abandon my current internet identity and go entirely under a new identity, however there are so many things stopping me from doing that. And even if I were to successfully switch identities, it will backfire eventually and the past will come back to haunt me. I'm not so sure what to do nowadays especially when I feel absolutely exiled from the non-anonymous communites (for example Discord, IRC, XMPP, etc.) I used to be in due to my actions.

>>12651 What's keeping you from getting a new irc nick? Hell you could even switch servers, there's endless exploration on almost all of them.

>>12651 >however there are so many things stopping me from doing that. And even if I were to successfully switch identities, it will backfire eventually and the past will come back to haunt me. There is nothing stopping you. It's the easiest thing in the world. You don't even have to kill your old identities off to start new ones. Roll up a character and have fun. Just don't try to connect with people you know under your current identity with your new identity unless you plan on living with that lie for as long as you know them. Better to start completely fresh.

is it even possible if you were obligated to be registered in several government structures

close your laptop nigga lol