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What are best Universities to do Master for someone interested in security (mostly European, as getting to USA seems impossible to some from eastern Europe country without VISA agreement). I would like to skill: *low level hacking and exploiting *AI *Computer Graphics *Modern Cryptography (no soykaf Caesar ciphers etc) Any thoughts on ETH? Is German needed there? I post on /sec/ because there is no /sci/ and because of this low level sec stuff I am into.

As far as I know this field of work is rather new and easy to get into as long as you can prove yourself with past experience and/or some certification. Expected mainstream educational paths towards workforce or even academia in the field is totally arhaic in todays world. Having a masters degree today won't land you a job but just n interview.

>>3644 Yeah I know that Academia < Self Education Bu I expect to find some people interested in same topics in such a place which would be great. And second thing is that recently I've realised that I have little knowledge about very low level things, for example I am still not certain why Meltdown works. I would like to approach it from basics of basics. I am talking about circuits right now and processor hardware, not the ring3 stuff I kind of know how it works. Do you know any online materials or books on this topic? I think I should jump into ring0 stuff and then do some circuits to finally be able to rethink it in another direction (from circuits to ring0 to ring3)

>>3647 I just feel like I am a bit lost. I mean, if someone would like to fully understands today computers then he must work in Intel R&D or study at ECH or some kind of this soykaf. And even if there are online courses then one still needs hardware. At my current university we have FPGA courses, I will take it soon, maybe this will elighten me a bit ;D

>>3643 TUM (Technische Universtat Munchen) has lots of master's courses in English. I'm here as an exchange student so I'm free to pick anything I like. My courses are: >Embedded Systems and Security (english) >Secure Implementation of Crypo Alg's (slides in english, speaker is german) >Computational Intelligence (english) >IT Security Fundamentals (german, but it's bachelor's level) Now I know german as much as a person barely being able to order a Doner with extra napkins for himself, but I translated all my german courses and think I can manage a quiz in german since they let me answer in english. Check their module catalog and go to town. Their informatics department had EVERYTHING, but sadly I'm in Electrical Blahblah

>>3867 A word about low level sec stuff. Every security course told us from the beginning they're not training hackers. So information you'll be given will be like a trail of breadcrumbs. You must go down the rabbit hole yourself from there. Learn your ARM Assembly, get it to the point where you're fluent in writing basic C programs in it, then look into reverse engineering (v. important to understand big assembly code), return oriented programming, buffer overflows (payload crafting), code reuse attacks.

>>3868 >fluent in writing basic C programs in it If you can achieve this, you've passed the threshold for sysadmin-tier IQ. The sky is the limit after this. And I must recommend you try learning this on your own before you decide >low level hacking and exploiting Because you might find out you're just not fit for it, personality wise. Debuggers are like a child clumsily shouting "GUESS!" >AI All of my European friends are interested in AI, has word not crossed the pond that AI is a thankless, low-pay, dreadful choice to specialize in? >Modern Cryptography (no soykaf Caesar ciphers etc) See AI >Computer Graphics This is a major in video game design. So far, you'e won buzzword bingo. I would urge you to go into some other topic, because you don't seem to have any genuine interest to understand what it is you're trying to get into.

>>3643 >ETH Zürich Go right ahead if you can. Their Masters in CS (Informatik MSc) is taught in English. Word of caution though: it's hard. The rate at which you have to learn course material is insane (hence ETH is often seen as a separate category of Uni).

>>3880 >Word of caution though: it's hard. The rate at which you have to learn course material is insane Not op, but are you talking from personal experience? Or do you know someone who has enrolled in it?

>>3882 Hell no, I'm far too stupid to even enroll there. Got fuarrrked by the dual education system here while friends went to better places later on.

>>3643 Get a computer science degree. Computer security degrees are almost always business degrees with sysadmin and audit classes tacked on so they can change the label.