lainchan / sec

A Curious Question...

Lady Jessica · 2017-12-02 05:15
I've been wondering this for a long time, for various reasons. I don't do anything illegal, but I've been paranoid for some time that people might find what I've said online to be offensive to PC culture, and either I'd get into a huge mess or that they'd just straight up put me in a prison and throw away the key. I know that I come off as paranoid, but such things are happening at an increasing rate and I feel that it may not be safe to be on the internet anymore. As such, is it even safe to go online anymore? I don't really tow anyone's party line and I call bullsoykaf when I see it, and nobody really likes that kind of person. I don't think that using a VPN or a proxy works because people in the higher ups can still find out who you are, and using one would make you all the more suspicious. I don't do anything wrong, I just say politically incorrect things and I'm just really afraid that I'm going to be in serious trouble for something that I shouldn't even be in any trouble for. And even if I didn't say anything like that again, they could just go and look at what I said earlier and use that against me, even if it was several years ago. It all just scares me.
Cereal Killer · 2017-12-02 07:05
>>3309 Chan funposting: NO they will probably not find it unless you got doxxed like a retard by engaging in some way that leaks information (posting photos, engaging in extended discussion) in a way somehow linkable to the spicy things you said Facebook commenting: YES This is your meatspace identity If you said anything here, consider it not only permanently archived but also supremely indexed+searchable by the Powers That Be Anything in between: MAYBE Consider them able to find out any forum/similar accounts you have unless you've taken particular pains to separate it from your main identity But you have to remember that before you even go into "but what if I use VPN" there is so much more important stuff below that on the hierarchy that, if you're even asking about a VPN, I can probably bet you haven't convered
Cat Mother · 2017-12-02 09:01
Lurk only in places that could be questionable and use the proper browser based protections (ad blocking and all that) and you should be more or less fine. Journalists view questionable content all the time as part of their job and generally do not get into trouble unless they live in a real soykafhole of a country. All else fails you could just say you are a beginner freelance journalist. Using a VPN does not work because there is nobody auditing them to make sure they actually do what they say they do. They may say they do not keep logs but they might keep track of users some other way. Even if the Feds do not get to them, their database could always be compromised, containing whatever information they choose to store on their users. Tor (despite its flaws and government associations/funding) is your best bet if you are paranoid. At this point I would not even trust running your own VPN on a VPS somewhere, as the VPS provider could also be logging without your consent. >>3310 You could go further and say that ANYTHING mainstream that you post on could be used against you. Twitter, Youtube, Reddit, Instagram, Twitch, Discord, pretty much everything on mobile, and anything else that requires a login to post.
Liet Kynes · 2017-12-02 09:21
you're probably paranoid. please explain your fears so we can tell you it doesn't make sense.
Cutter · 2017-12-02 10:48
Get yourself behind seven proxies, i.e. Tor, use short-living pseudonymous personalities, if you need one long-living, don't insult people with it, post everything else anonymously on chans. Never connect your pseudonyms to your real persona, never ever. Be it your nickname, password choice, favorite movies, books or music, websites you visit non-anonymously or discussing general area where you live. Also consider changing your writing style manually or via software. One VPN probably won't save you but 2 in a row will ensure your ISP won't know where you post and website where you post won't know what your ISP is when they send a lazy abuse request to hoster.
Cypher · 2017-12-02 14:37
> I'd get into a huge mess or that they'd just straight up put me in a prison and throw away the key. assuming your an American, if being a Nazi can't get you put in prison you shouldn't worry. Chan's are especially good because they cannot get linked to an account. If you were on a forum that had an account to use. They found out what your username was they could find all your posts, i'd start worrying then. >I don't think that using a VPN or a proxy works because people in the higher ups can still find out who you are, and using one would make you all the more suspicious VPN's are common place anymore all they could see is you connecting to them (except the VPN), check their logging policy. all in all, if you use proper OPSEC and proxy/vpn you should be fine. If 10 year old can say nigger and glitterboy 24/7 on the internet it's unlikely you will.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2017-12-02 16:17
Basically, just use the Tor Browser Bundle (with the security slider to the max) and you should be fine. At that point, you won't be able to use sites that require javascript to work, but most sites worth brewing soykaf on will work none-the-less (chans, reddit, ...). You can still use a normal browser for normal person stuff like youtube or what-have-you. > to be offensive to PC culture > I feel that it may not be safe to be on the internet anymore Maybe you just need a safe space?
Bob Arctor · 2017-12-02 18:58
Do you know which anime is that my goyim? Sage for off topic.
Joe Bloggs · 2017-12-02 19:40
>>3316 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Purpose_Cultural_Cat_Girl_Nuku_Nuku
Nanashi No Gombe · 2017-12-02 23:50
>>3310 I'm not stupid enough to use Facebook for anything other than being in occasional contact with relatives and distant friends. It would never be used as a "platform" of any sort. I barely go on there anyway. >>3311 I don't really go anywhere like that but I don't know about the browser-based protections at all. I knew that VPN was too good to be true and that simply using it would automatically make me suspicious. >>3312 I don't look at anything illegal at this time (like CP or loli, because I'm not a creep) but my fears are more political, because sometimes I say stuff out of outrage on Reddit or something like that due to my mental illness. I've had similar episodes on Livejournal several years ago, but I stopped using it years ago. The whole SJW thing has gotten to me quite a bit and one real life event really made me extremely paranoid; a former friend for years ratted me out for some benign comment and I had the cops show up at my door a few days later, having me sign a paper so that I couldn't go to the local university for a whole year. A few years ago, this would have been unheard of. The comment? That I simply said that when I was eight years old, I went to a Native American pow-wow with men dancing in loincloths and I thought that I saw their penises. I shouldn't have gotten in trouble for that at all, especially since no children were around. There was also a time when I was at a bar and made another small comment, and the bartender was like "That isn't appropriate at the bar." I mean, what? I live out in the boonies; people are just pretending to be like that out of their own narcissism. Fortunately I was able to find another bar that doesn't give a soykaf. It must be said that this has been the only time I've been derezzed from any place at all. It was a place where I got a degree in the 00s and worked in the 10s, too. And still had friends there. I even donated books to the library, one that I actually wrote and self-published. I didn't deserve it. >>3313 I'm just afraid that it would make me look too suspicious. I don't look at illegal porn, like I've said before, anyway. >>3314 Yeah, I'm in America.
Trinity · 2017-12-03 01:23
>>3320 Tor is today lazy man's VPN or proxy, everyone uses it, around 0,1% of US citizens if I recall correctly. That's a lot and this percent is stable across different countries. If you are that afraid to use bareback Tor even with obfuscation, fire up an normal VPN as first hop. Why? Because fuarrrk your ISP that sells browsing data to advertisers, that's why. Finally, you have to admit and understand, if when a tool does not protect disgusting pedophiles or terrorists, it wont protect you, dear wrongthinker. It is fine to share your opinion on certain topics, but you should judge your situation accordingly and not spill soykaf youknowhatimsayin. Don't walk on streets calling people what they are, humans usually don't like that. You have all rights to do it anonymously and you should explore them. As I mentioned before, software utilizing Tor network is suitable for your task. Read on how it works and how you should alter your browsing habits. Most imageboards besides four-chan allow posting through Tor, not really sure about reddit, I don't use it. Some sites won't allow you post from Tor exits, therefore you will need a VPN not connected to your identity as a last hop or a bit of woodoo magic to obtain "clean" exits. Do not forget to sanitize your accounts, you don't want Big Brother see you logging in to forum from home and then from tor. Here is a guide for starters on how to be anonymous: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/DoNot
HELIOS · 2017-12-04 23:00
>>3320 Did you use the same username on the accounts you post offinsive content? If so, you might want to do a little clean up and come up different names online lol
Joe Bloggs · 2017-12-05 06:31
>PC culture >prison what? Unless you live in China or Venezuela or something, nobody is being imprisoned yet for their political beliefs, least of all for offending SJWs.(if anything, the best way to paint a target on your back in the US is to be a radical leftist). Anyway, the biggest way doxxing happens is when people cross-contaminate pseudonyms. Don't leak your pseudonyms under other pseudonyms, don't link them in any way, and for the love of god don't reveal personal info online anywhere. >I don't think that using a VPN or a proxy works because people in the higher ups can still find out who you are, and using one would make you all the more suspicious. it obfuscates the information significantly, especially if you put it in other countries. Nobody is going to go through the trouble of a full-blown traffic correlation attack(or, more likely, forcing a proxy provider to hand over logs) unless they have a *lot* of resources and you *really* pissed them off, i.e. by making death threats or doing something very illegal.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2017-12-19 09:51
>>3334 This. Also, not what this discussion is about, but radical leftist here.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-12-19 10:30
>used discord when it was new >said a bunch of dumb soykaf >will probably come back to bite me in 10 years That's what I get for having a mental breakdown hahahaha
Project 2501 · 2017-12-19 16:28
>>3334 >Unless you live in China or Venezuela or something, nobody is being imprisoned yet for their political beliefs, least of all for offending SJWs. Or the UK. If you say the wrong soykaf online you'll get 6 months in jail or a 5k fine. Don't get me wrong I'm not one to harp on about SJWs but the concept of free speech is being slowly eroded.
Nguoi La · 2017-12-19 18:10
In Italy the biggest right-party has come out with a law for wich if you have a forum you must store >name>surname>dateofbirth of the people posting. Chans would obviously be derezzed. Fortunately the vast majority knows how retarded the fascist are so we just laugh at them
Special Agent Bob · 2017-12-19 19:26
>>3472 >Or the UK. If you say the wrong soykaf online you'll get 6 months in jail or a 5k fine. What is this supposed to be a reference to? I remember during the London riots some people went on Facebook (under their real fuarrrking names) and tried to get kick things off in whatever non-city cow and chicken town they lived in and got in trouble. I thought the courts were just overreacting because those riots were pretty bad by England standards. Is there an actual law though?
John Rain · 2017-12-19 22:34
>>3472 Can you source that? It's not that I don't believe you, I just feel there should be legal repercussions for legit death and rape threats (though proportionate to the crime, I which I admittedly don't really trust the court system,) and I want to know context to react appropriately. >>3471 I'm bipolar, I very much relate. >>3474 Yeah, fuarrrk that. All in all: protect yourself if you're going to be a soykafhead. One mooore thing: I'm the radical leftist guy, but to be clear I'm not very reactionary, so don't feel like you have to tip-toe.
Jens Hansen · 2017-12-23 10:04
>>3476 >>3478 Probably referring to soykaf like this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-viewers-of-online-terrorist-material-face-15-years-in-jail >I want to make sure those who view despicable terrorist content online, including jihadi websites, far-right propaganda and bomb-making instructions, face the full force of the law >This is an increasingly common means by which material is accessed online for criminal purposes and is a particularly prevalent means of viewing extremist material such as videos and web pages General intro, we have many laws which extend from here and cover a wide range of speech: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom Look into the Public Order Act 1986, Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, and the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006. These laws are all rather broad and vague, and are sometimes used in conjunction with other broad laws to get an arrest to begin with. Some examples below. >candidate in the South East European elections has been arrested after making a speech quoting from a book by Winston Churchill about Islam http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-27186573 This is fairly infamous by now. The guy's guys trial keeps being pushed back but I think it's set for January. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/nazi-pug-man-arrested-after-teaching-girlfriends-dog-to-perform/
Nameless · 2017-12-23 10:13
>>3505 I should clarify I tried to find some examples of "far left" speech resulting in legal action, in the interest of keeping things politically neutral, but had a hard time finding anything from a reliable source. Not trying to push an agenda other than, yes the UK gov dictates what speech is and is not acceptable.
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2017-12-23 11:01
>>3506 Well imagine my shock!
Netrunner · 2017-12-23 11:22
>>3505 >This is an increasingly common means by which material is accessed online for criminal purposes and is a particularly prevalent means of viewing extremist material such as videos and web pages Retards don't realize that terrorists running people over in trucks and stabbing people with kitchen knives is actually much much better than fuarrrking buildings and trains blowing up. It's a sign of how utterly helpless Muslims are now compared to 10 years ago. But politicians always need to *appear* to be doing something or they won't get voted again. It's sad. >>3506 >Not trying to push an agenda other than, yes the UK gov dictates what speech is and is not acceptable. That's fair enough, thanks.