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>hating on Ayn Rand >not embracing le Atlas man SHIGGY DIGGY

>>18313 This guy gets it.

>>18313 >>18314 >lainchan endorses video of a bunch of 14 year olds burning books for 14 year olds pretty sure this is some next gen level meta edginess

>>18315 someone has actually paid the guy in the video (the owner of this chan) to burn these books

>>18317 This is quite sad and disheartening.

>>18322 I thought it was funny. Instead of buying something he does not want, he get performances. How much money would be needed to get Kalix dancing on a pole?

She actually has a lot of nice and interesting things to say - All of which today are completely misconstrued by the radically retarded right wing that thinks they've adopted her. The goal is self actualization - The Fountainhead taught me to follow my dreams - The goal is a happy life. The only real difference between me and her is that she thinks the retarded masses should starve to death, whereas I think a much more affective approach to getting them out of the way is to house, feed, medicate, and entertain them. Ayn Rand turned me into an anticapitalist socioanarchistsomething - Not in defiance of what she argued, but because she's right, her goals are just and beautiful and human. Everyone gets wrapped up in her proposed methodologies - Which is stupid because those are directly tied to the spirit of her time, a time vastly different than anything we have going on today. It takes a strong mind to see past this to what she was actually arguing for: The opportunity for the few of us that are actually capable to attempt to be human.

>>18317 How much? 20$ for three shitty old books?

Anthem is great.

Ayn Rand is just Max Stirner, except not worth your time to read.

>>18322 it is isn't it?

>>18340 nah they're completely different

>>18340 nah they are completely different. >>18342 actually, they are the almost the same.

>>18340 Ayn Rand has very pretty prose, though.

>>18333 I'm somewhat similar, except I dislike socialism. But I also got the idea of self actualization out of the fountainhead. I like the idea that I'm in total control of myself and that all I have to do to realize my dreams is work. Makes you very self motivated.

>>18829 >Would rather believe what feels nice, disregarding any relation between the belief and the truth of the matter Seriously? I mean, I get that you like Rand, but that's just ridiculous. The truth matters more than any type of way you feel about the states of affairs in the world. Also, people who "dislike socialism" usually have very little knowledge of it; are you one of those people?

>>18830 Well I mean I do have total free will. I am in control of myself. If I wanted to jump off the building, I could. People would try to stop me, but I could. We don't, and shouldn't, have to ask permission to learn skills and create things. That both feels nice and is true. I've talked to a lot of people who grow up under communism, specifically Mao and Deng. I think they know better than I do, and so I believe them when they say that it's less than desirable. Ultimately I'm a utilitarian, though. If socialism had done better, I'd be a socialist. The only thing I'm really an absolutist on is free speech, and the ability to create. The idea of living under like, one of the Chinese dynasties, where poets were executed for disagreeing with the government, scares me more than Bernie Sanders, I just think he's wrong.

>>18340 Ayn Rand is a retarded classcucked version of Max Stirner. >"Oh we should all totally act in our own self-interest all the time" >"Except when it conflicts with the captains of industry" >muh virtuous job creator thank u for job >muh spooks >working class is actually obliged to absolutely not act at all in their own self-interest whatsoever as a result Nah, fuarrrk her. Her philosophy is not only universally ridiculed by anyone other than neckbeard lolbertardians, but her ideas themselves are wholly not in dialogue with literally any of the Western canon whatsoever. She at best gave a superficial reading of Nietzsche and Stirner and pulled her special snowflake philosophy out of her ass as a result of this. People who are interested in Rand at all would do well to reader Stirner and get de-spooked. >>18831 Free will insofar as we can talk about it practically (metaphysically speaking, free will is one of the stupidest and most confused topics in all of philosophy that only intro students care about) is in no way incompatible with socialism. The opposite is true in fact. >communism = Mao/Stalin/Deng/ No, no, no, no. None of them ever claimed to achieve communism. Communism is a very specific economic state of post-scarcity where the entire production process is automated. Socialism is the economic state of transition between capitalism and communism where the means of production are collectivized and managed by the workers, and arguably the majority of the so-called socialist/communist revolutions of the 20th century accomplished this. Catalonia and Free Territory Ukraine are anarchist exceptions to this that unfortunately made the mistake of thinking that the Bolsheviks were their allies. These leaders were all Marxists-Leninists, and they were all soykaf .

>>18843 >People who are interested in Rand at all would do well to reader Stirner and get de-spooked. I mean, I don't disagree.