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Faye Valentine · 2018-10-29 07:43
Many of you will face death alone. Death is not the end but eternity, you can not remember your beginning and you will not remember your end for it won't be. The moment of death will be eternity, sense experience will fade as will your self. In this sense it is the end for some of you, as some of you only know experience through the self. And it's a very bad end, you will face the loss of your self only with fear and complete despair. It is unknown to me whether you shall ever overcome, this is what the religious books mean when they speak of a hell.
And I repeat you will face death alone if you are such a person who grounds themselves in things like a love interest, money, friends, drugs, etc. I am not some kind of prophet, all i'm saying is from prophets I have read (whether they knew they were prophets or not) and I feel obligated to warn you all of what is coming for you. If you cannot place your highest love and trust into God, the universe, or the other, you will face death alone. All you find joy in will be taken from you. If you find joy in nothing and seek death as an escape you will remain joyless even in death. There is no escape unless you learn to love and trust what is eternal and outside the self. If you do not believe what I am saying now, time will tell all. If you trust nothing beyond sense experience soon the sciences of sense experience will point still to what I am saying but perhaps phrased differently. And yet some of you still will not take it to heart anyways, wait all you want it will make no difference.
The meaning of God has become something of its own life, it has cheapened and God has indeed died in a sense. You must look to what you cannot control, what seems to have power over you and recognize it is all one power and it is that which you do not know and that which is not yourself. You must trust and love it, for you have no choice anyways, it is out of your control. You must even trust and love what judgement awaits you, for that too is out of your control. You must not do any of this for anything other then love and trusts sake, to do it for a reward or fear of suffering is cheap and will not be there to comfort you in death.
Enjoy life, love life, but love what is not known highest. When one consents their control to what is highest and eternal they gain a control unmatched. When one realizes that in times of despair when everyone has left them only this has stayed by their side they realize who is their truest friend and know despair no more.
I am totally anonymous, and these words are not mine. I will not gain anything nor lose anything whether you recognize these truths or not. I gain no eternal reward according to my beliefs by helping you, for the book designated for me states that unbelievers will be unbelievers regardless. And beyond that I reject my reward, for rewards are of the earth. Again I only present truths to you that I worry have been clouded over time and no longer speak to people such as yourselves as they did not speak to me for a long time. I am trying to show you the bridge that will allow you to remember. The religious texts are as much metaphors for modern science and psychological truths as these truths are metaphors for the religious texts. All points or will point to a single truth and power, and if you don't accept it you may suffer forever or you may suffer just a little while. But an unpleasant experience is guaranteed, one far greater than any you have experienced. It's both your choice and also not your choice.
Naomi Nascimento · 2018-10-29 07:58
Someone once asked me if I had learned anything from it all. So let me tell you what I learned. I learned everyone dies alone. But if you meant something to someone... If you helped someone... Or loved someone... If even a single person remembers you... Then maybe you never really die. And maybe... this isn't the end at all.''
Koos van der Merwe · 2018-10-29 12:47
>>9969
"you" won't ever die then perhaps. I worry more for "I"
Hiro Protagonist · 2018-10-29 17:51
Humans could not control the weather. Then came A/C.
Humans did not have enough food. So they started genetic engineering.
Humans hated walking. So they made the wheel, trained horses, built bicycles, and cars and planes and trains.
Humans wanted to visit other worlds and deliver devastating payloads to their brethren. So they made rockets.
Humans could not see in the dark. So they harnessed fire, and electricity.
Humans hated God. So they killed it.
Humans have limited time. So they learned to extend it.
I like to bet on the underdog, mostly for soykafs and giggles.
The next century or two will likely determine the ultimate limits of the human species.
XERXES · 2018-10-29 22:34
I have come curiously close to the end, down
Beneath my self-indulgent pitiful hole,
Defeated, I concede and
Move closer
I may find comfort here
I may find peace within the emptiness
How pitiful
It's calling me...
And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping
The moon tells me a secret - my confidant
As full and bright as I am
This light is not my own and
A million light reflections pass over me
Its source is bright and endless
She resuscitates the hopeless
Without her, we are lifeless satellites drifting
And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt
Don't wanna be down here soothing my narcissism.
I must crucify the ego before it's far too late
I pray the light lifts me out
Before I pine away.
So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
Just let the light touch you
And let the words spill through
And let them pass right through
Bringing out our hope and reason...
before we pine away.
Jane Doe · 2018-10-29 22:46
There were days, and there were days
And there were days between
Summer flies and August dies
The world grows dark and mean
Comes the shimmer of the moon
On black infested trees
The singing man is at his song
The holy on their knees
The reckless are out wrecking
The timid plead their pleas
No one knows much more of this
Than anyone can see
Anyone can see~
There were days, and there were days
And there were days besides
When phantom ships with phantom sails
Set to sea on phantom tides
Comes the lightning of the sun
On bright unfocused eyes
The blue of yet another day
A springtime wet with sighs
A hopeful candle lingers
In the land of lullabies
Where headless horsemen vanish
With wild and lonely cries
Lonely cries~
There were days, and there were days
And there were days I know
When all we ever wanted
Was to learn and love and grow
Once we grew into our shoes
We told them where to go
Walked halfway around the world
On promise of the glow
Stood upon a mountain top
Walked barefoot in the snow
Gave the best we had to give
How much we'll never know
We'll never know~
There were days, and there were days
And there were days between
Polished like a golden bowl
The finest ever seen
Hearts of Summer held in trust
Still tender young and green
Left on shelves collecting dust
Not knowing what they mean
Valentines of flesh and blood
As soft as velveteen
Hoping love would not forsake
The days that lie between
Lie between~
J.C. Denton · 2018-10-31 00:01
What lies beyond the other side may well be eternity to us, as the concept of space and time need not to apply there.
However there is notable evidence that suggest reincarnation is actually real, not only do we have some kind of soul with traits that reenters a body, but it also seems that certain individuals have actual recollections of past lifes even to the point of near total recollection.
Certain rumors even indicate that highly advanced entities are capable of choosing and even transfering their souls into other bodies at will.
I dont see how or why anyone should be afraid of death as long as they life honest lifes with themselfs and others and make the best of what they have.
Death may not seem so pleasant, atleast to a few here, but its an important part of life.
The nature of god probably exceeds way beyond our capacity to grasp, though faith and trust to me are the integral part to me to live a good and meaningful life.
Knowing it goes according to a plan and that it be for good strengthens my ability to live better and i believe god works much like a mirror of sorts, rewarding us for rewarding ourselfs.
Ender · 2018-10-31 06:10
Trust in God will not spare you misfortune, no matter how destructive.
Faith in God does not protect the believers.
There are types who like to rationalize misfortunes that happen to them, they like to say things are better off this way, that God works in "mysterious ways", or failing that they like to scrutinize themselves for fault, and having found a fault, decide they deserved it, therefore it was judgement.
But occasionally, to some unlucky people, something so horrible happens that it cannot be rationalized away anymore. Something so terrible happens that between oneself and God it cannot be other than a complete breach of trust. Then faith blows away like so much smoke, and you are left as you really are: alone.
Mitnick · 2018-10-31 07:55
>>10004
the protection is inherent. for one it must be else God works in no such mysterious ways and punishes and rewards like anything else in this world.
Secondly, though you may have your beliefs about subjective experience as do I, must there not be one true reality behind it all? Else we would not be connected by anything, our subjective realities too warped and individual to speak. And then, you would consent that our incomplete knowledge of this reality precedes an idea that we cannot possibly be in complete control of anything in our lives. Do you see that this fundamental Reality is what we refer to as the Truth, or God? If you don't agree with anything that precedes this that is your choice, but one who reads the books sees that it speaks to this.
Why consent then though to it? Because it will save you much burden, because when one accepts what they cannot control is out of their hands they gain a more precise control of what is. And because when your self fades upon death or other transcendental experience you will surely go mad and be in a dark place if you have not first learned to see the ultimate unknown reality as a benevolent force when it fills and becomes you.
BloodCat · 2018-11-05 06:58
RATIONAL OF SIN
In these modern times sin seems to simply be of function to a society, a tool to tell people what to not do, with no reason other then God said so. In fact there is only one sin, idolatry. I have read the books and found this to be true, other sins simply abstract presentations of idolatry. Idolatry is to place your faith and trust in anything but God, it may be a lover or drugs or your own emotions. Its sin like all things is inherent, when you do not put something beyond yourself and eternal higher you are no longer in control. One could argue that thing is oneself, I argue this is just seeing the God in self yet refusing to acknowledge this higher consciousness is in fact the God spoken of. You have heard of master slave morality, though I do not see it as fact, whether you choose to acknowledge the power as within or from outside has something to do with this concept.
Id advise to acknowledge and accept it is behond you, it is incredibly difficult even for the dominant person to see it in themselves when they also do not control it. It often just leads to fighting yourself. In fact one cant find it in the traditional "self" at all, but may find it internally. Yet most of you are "slaves" as am I. Our liberation lies in it being the eternal master, and only then perhaps can we find it eternally. Many in the east inherently see it as internal for they dont have concept of original sin, however for many of us in the west this is engrained. Even if we dont recognize it we see a human unchecked as a savage beast. Thus we must look outside to free our chains.
The christian book posits original sin but then frees us via Jesus. However by even positing it, it was taken advantage of by those who knew it was powerful. You are perfect naturally, you've simply been misguided to being imperfect. However these words mean little, do whatever you have to do to free yourself of this. I provide just one solution.
Boris Grishenko · 2018-11-05 07:26
ON HOMOSEXUALITY
The only sin is truly idolatry. Hence we begin to get an understanding of why all the books refer to homosexuality as a crime. Homosexuality in the times was understood as something purely done for pleasure, and this was true to a degree. It was a lot more common for a straight man to engage in homosexuality, in the same way we see animals do. To break my very uptight way of speaking "a holes a hole" when it comes to pleasure.
With the emergence of homosexuality as a clear sexual preference, this has become a very contentious. The fact is most modern relationships are sinful, homosexual or not. They often involve putting your partner above God, and that's at best. At worst they involve putting sexual pleasure above God. Both are idolatry, not to say sex or having a partner themselves are sinful. Rather one can't enjoy the joy in these things in a constructive way if they do not first recognize that God is first. This is because these joys are temporary, and if you do not have God or an ultimate Truth to ground you it is a breeding ground for codependency and sex addiction. This is the inherent negative price of putting sex or people above God. Sin is inherently bad, and we can see its consequences clearly. Hence when we can't, it's time to ask the Truth within and beyond us for explanation.
Homosexuality as we know it today is not sinful, to love another man is not sinful. Sexual acts in general often are, but not always. Learn to love God, then one learns to love truly, and then one learns to have sex with love.
This is my interpretation of the Word.
Tequila · 2018-11-05 07:43
lastly for now
ON DRUGS
As with all things, one needs to learn to love God first. When one learns this they will not succumb to addiction, there is a reason these 12 step programs have this incorporated into their program. However they often cheapen the message for their own gain.
However some drugs will always be dangerous. Many interfere with the ability to worship and love God, stimulants are a prime example. When one knows how they can clearly see what altered states prevent them from doing so. Here is a fairly comprehensive list of what does interfere and what does not.
>Stimulants:
Interferes at stronger doses. Stimulants seem to activate a complete absorption in the moment, one needs to be taken out of the moment to appreciate God. Cigarettes being a very mild stimulant often don't, except for during the head rush. Caffeine on the other hand, does at stronger amounts.
>Opiates
Does not inherently interfere, in fact can even strengthen. However the fact is this strengthening is temporary to the effect, thus can not truly be god and is idolatry. Opiates can make one feel close, but it is misleading.
>MDMA (Phenethylamines)
This is similar to opiates. However one can have a lasting enlightening experience on them. Yet it's also just as likely for one to think they feel close to God and in fact are close to something else.
>Psychedelics (Tryptamines)
No interference, and if anything a positive impact. It is near impossible for one to delude themselves on these substances.
>Alcohol
Mild interference, the books often make it known that one should not consume alcohol but that it is not forbidden. Similar potential delusion of closeness to opiates or MDMA.
>Marijuana
Completely neutral effect. Does not interfere nor increase vision of the Truth. Certainly can, but this is rather dependent on the person themselves.
>Salvia
At higher doses complete interference. One may come out though with some sort of closeness as a result of pondering the experience; but this is true for all shaking things.
>Disassociatives
Generally beneficial to closeness, differently so then psychedelics. Psychedelics allow one to reconcile and build closeness, dissociatives on the other hand allow one to see how close they are. If one is not close a higher dose will prove utterly traumatic. Unlike psychedelics though, the person will have little guidance how to reconcile this. In smaller to medium doses one can have some reconciliation of self and God.
Hagbard Celine · 2018-11-05 17:09
POWERLESS AGAINST THE UNPREDICTIBLE
What is the thing ruling over the world? Is it the human ingenuity, the ability to enforce our will upon nature? Some people might think so. After all, we humans as a species have achieved so much already. But then... think about it. Did we really triumph over the nature?
We have developed so much technology in order to deal with the forces of nature. One might think that we have become masters over the nature already. But every day the nature demonstrates to us that we are wrong.
Think about all those planes which fell from the sky due to storms, all those homes destroyed by volcanoes and hurricanes, all those ships sunk by icebergs, all those starving people who lost their homes to the expanding deserts... I am sure that you can easily find many more examples yourself.
And you know the forces of nature quite well even from your own daily life - when a lightning strike causes an electricity blackout, when your internet connection slows down because the optic cables under the sea were damaged by the wild life, when your car gets damaged by falling hailstones.
We fool ourselves when we think that we rule over the nature. We fool ourselves even when we dare to think that we are able to defend ourselves against the powers of nature. But the nature demonstrates to us again and again that it still rules over our life and death... and it always will.
You never know if you won't get hit by a car next time you walk to work. But wait a minute, you say, how is that nature? It depends on your definition of the word "nature" I guess. But let me answer with another question: What else it is then?
You might say that it is the random chance, the statistical probability, the result of unknown factors, many small events which add up over time, the chaos theory ruling over the events which we do understand, yet cannot predict, because we can never have enough information to be able to do that. And I agree. And I include this into my definition of the word "nature".
But no matter what you call this thing, the result is the same - we are ruled by the unpredictable small details which get amplified over time into the chaos of this universe, which we will never be able to defeat. Some events we will never be able to predict no matter how much we understand the laws of nature, some things we will never be able to control, no matter how deep knowledge of their inner workings we have.
We are ruled over by unknown. We are powerless against unknown.
I believe that it is this unknown, which rules over our lives and threatens us every day with a sudden unexpected death, that all major religion refer to as God and many other people (including me) call it Fate.
It was quite recently that I realized how powerless I am against the Fate. I suddenly felt so insignificant, so powerless, that I have become fascinated by it.
And that's what it means to believe in higher powers I think. To believe in higher powers means to acknowledge that you are powerless against the Unpredictable, powerless against the Fate.
You might just as well start to believe in actual higher powers. In the end it makes no difference. The result is the same - powerlessness.
Hacker · 2018-11-05 19:38
The only god is Eris, stfu with this Jehovah soykaf.
Delilah · 2018-11-05 21:43
>>10036
its as if you were me speaking. maybe because we speak to the same thing!
Zero Cool · 2018-11-05 21:50
>>10038
HAIL!
Case · 2018-11-06 22:07
>>10039
That's because I AM YOU. I am your tulpa.