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Do any of you knows were to find a subtitle track that covers only the japanese-written panels in Lain? I like my language's dubbing, but without subtitles i can't read all of those parts.

>>7368 Perhaps not all dubs are as bad as the English-language ones tend to be.

>>7372 English being the largest language would imply that this larger market could finance better translations. Dubs from smaller language pools are often one guy reading the entire script, as in every character, over the original audio.

>>7373 If one autistic is passionate enough about an anime to do that, his exuberance alone could make it worth watching. Better a devoted amateur than an indifferent professional.

>>7373 No lol, for many historical reasons some languages and countries have great dubs, often much better than the english ones. Market and USA are not everything you silly burger, pliz compare this (italian dub for the FLCL opening scene) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZBZmU9vATQ to this (english one) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W0dzScK4Jw . I picked up flcl cause is my favourite anime, but you can do it with almost all anime and the italian dub will usually be better than the english one. I know also latino dubs are said to be good, while russian ones instead are known to be terrible, but it's a matter of every single language and every single dub, your generalization that "poors dunno how to dub lol" is very stupid.

>>7661 >for many historical reasons some languages and countries have great dubs that's interesting. is it because these countries have a small (compared to hollywood) domestic film industry? if this were the case, i'd imagine there would be local demand for talented voice actors to dub american movies.. actors who could easily use their experience to dub for any language. watching foreign films is very niche in america (perhaps even more so than watching anime) so i can see why there isn't enough money in it to produce much real talent.

>>7667 It's mainly, but not only, what you said. Dubbing and acting are not exactly the same thing. Most of Hollywood actors base their performance on Strasberg's acting system, which is derived from Stanislavsky's one, which is based on the fact that the actor needs to really feel the same emotion of the character, and not just imitate his reactions. This is obtained through a series of emotional triggers, many of which are in the head of the actor, but many are also in the external environment. This means that when an hollywood actor is dubbing a character, it is often difficult for that actor to be intense and emotionally involved as the character, cause in reality he or she is in a dark registration room with no scenography and often no other actors or external stimulation at all. Since U.S. colonized the world economically (and in some cases also military), every nation, even when their film industry is not so small, has to import their cultural products. This favourishes the creation of a dubbing method which is not only a "voice-only" recycling of the acting one, but is specifically made for the necessities of dubbing foreign films. Here in Italy, where i live and where there is a pretty good school of dubbing, actors are almost never also well-known dubbers. The two professional figures are almost completely separeted. Also there can be more other historical reasons, like the pre-existence of an acting tradition or method based specifically on the voice (here in Italy there was Ronconi's one), or of a Stanislavskian method derivation which relies on internal triggers more than on external ones, or of a totally different acting method based more on perfect imitation than on feeling, and so on. Also it can make the difference if the country had a nationalistic ideological setting and so translates everything, or a xenophile one and so used to leave everything in the original language with subtitles and such things. So there is not a single cause which makes a country's dubbing tradition good or bad, but, in general, the more people focused on dubbing itself instead of "acting with voice" and on adapt instead of simply translate, the more the dubbings which come out of that country are usually good ones.

>>7387 I understand your point because for instance anime fansubs were often better than official, professional ones (I haven't seen an anime in years that wasn't officially subtitled though). What I was talking about is one audio track, one monotone voice, reading all the speaking parts over the original audio which is turned down. It's kind of horrible.