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Lunch · 2018-03-11 18:27
Seems like there have been more and more "asian" child grooming and raping groups.
https://archive.is/CXveN
What are your thoughts about these "asian" communities? Do you think there is some kind of correlation between influx of immigrants and these type of criminal activities?
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2018-03-11 19:57
Its angering, sad, and not going to be properly punished.
That said take it 8ch/mewch/endchan, lainchan is not a political board.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2018-03-12 07:05
...but they are from countries located in asia
John Rain · 2018-03-12 19:14
I would like a better source than a literal tabloid that makes money off of twisting or even fabricating news stories to reaffirm the beliefs of idiots.
This isn't [certain political board who's utterance causes the spam filter to throw up], we expect more evidence then 'It's true because it says the bad people are doing something bad', and we tend to apply more scrutiny then 'Here's an example of people in (x group) doing a bad thing, therefore all people in (x group) are bad and all people in (some other group) are good'.
Zero Cool · 2018-03-12 20:24
>>7144
This guy gets it,
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28934963
Ein · 2018-03-13 07:14
They are just assimilating into upper class british tradition and culture
Dr. X · 2018-03-13 13:16
>>7144
I bet you give that much scrutiny to all of your political opponents and those who don't think like you
But if John Oliver goes "Bazinga" you laugh and say "truuuu dat xD"
Cereal Killer · 2018-03-13 15:20
>>7152
I think this is what the kids online refer to as "projecting". No one with an IQ above room temperature takes those tabloids at face value, regardless of their political stripe.
Void · 2018-03-13 16:39
>>7154
so both BBC and breitbart are lying and everyone thinks like you?
That's what I would call pressumptive
Morpheus · 2018-03-13 16:43
> Do you think there is some kind of correlation between influx of immigrants and these type of criminal activities?
Nah, the probability of a migrant being a horrific criminal is roughly the same as a naturalized citizen being a horrific criminal.
Terzibashjian · 2018-03-13 18:01
>>7152
and when sean hannity goes on fox and spews conspiracy bullsoykaf 'bout liberals you eat it up with a smile.
Anamika · 2018-03-13 18:21
>>7156
If you're not being ironic, why do crime statistics say otherwise? Swedish authorities had to start omitting ethnicity in their official crime statistics because non-Swedes were over represented and this has been the case in other countries as well.
I don't get how lefties can proudly support this diversity "we are all equal" soykaf when it's pushed by both massive corporations AND neoliberal governments, because their end goal is a universal consumer.
Yet Another Lainon · 2018-03-13 18:28
>>7156
Really? Where's your source for that claim? Because virtually every country with a nigger/sand-nigger minority has their crime statistics showing the exact opposite.
Mentat · 2018-03-13 18:41
>>7159
Here's a source from the right that the attached image is from: https://www.cato.org/publications/immigration-reform-bulletin/criminal-immigrants-their-numbers-demographics-countries
>>7160
> nigger/sand-nigger
Careful dude, you might cut yourself on that edge.
The Phantom Phreak · 2018-03-13 19:00
>>7162
>Illegal immigrant incarceration rates are not well studied
>If ICE suspected the arrestee of being an illegal immigrant, then ICE would issue a detainer to hold the arrestee until ICE could pick them up. The Obama administration ended SCOMM in 2014
So the article you linked limited to data in 2014, the year in which Obama artificially lowered immigrant incarceration rates, is what you're going to use to explain away the fact that if you approach the statistics by race it shows that niggers, spics, and sand-niggers all cause a disproportionate amount of crime in many countries? You couldn't possibly be more disingenuous if you tried. Did you even read what you linked or did you just take the first jewgle link you found and thought that would constitute as an argument?
It's already been concluded by most people in the conversation (including "" scientists"") that soykaf-skins often commit more crime, the only debate still being had is why. Feel free to cherry pick some more studies to support a claim that even commies have abandoned.
Boris Grishenko · 2018-03-13 19:15
>>7144
Perfectly healthy skepticism. The Mirror is an utter rag and you'd be retarded to take anything it said at face value.
That said, this is true. It was big news in England at the time. Well, it's mostly true anyway. I did a lot of research into it at the time because the whole "We were scared of looking racist" thing didn't ring true to me. Nobody is gonna call you a racist because you went after human traffickers and police tackle ethnic gangs all the time. Sure, SJWs were a thing but they were never "I, as an LEO, am so scared I'm going to ignore the 12 year old telling me she was violently raped" especially in England. It's ridiculous. Looking at the evidence I came to the conclusion that they were simply on the take. The whole racism thing was just an excuse they used after they got caught.
Thing is, that kinda scuppers the whole "it's the evil Asians" idea. They managed to do what they did entirely because they had the help of white British cops. More than that, there's plenty of cultural arguments that people will have trouble adjusting to British society (which have mostly panned out to be junk) but that's not what we saw here. These people weren't acting within the culture of a third world nation. They were organised experienced people traffickers with sophistication and knowledge of how to work in states like ours. For instance, they weren't solely a Rotherham gang, in fact they did relatively little actual pimping there because they preferred to move the girls to other cities before putting them out to work (a common tactic, but one that implies they knew they were safer in Rotherham, usually they'll turn people out all over).
So yeah, big whoop. Most gangs run along ethnic lines, if not explicitly then because of families. These people had been operating since the 80's at least, before all the immigration stuff kicked off, had experience in the field even then and did nothing that isn't also done by white gangs (i.e. Gypsies or chavs) in the country.
Lady Jessica · 2018-03-13 19:28
>>7163
I await your pre-2014 studies showing migrant crime rates to be significantly higher than native rates warmly.
Bobby Newmark · 2018-03-13 19:40
>>7163
You won't convince him or any spectators if you're going to be shamelessly vulgar. Seriously, fuarrrk off to politically incorrect with that soykaf.
>>7162
What the guy I'm replying to said, and also "Natives" include African Americans who are grossly over represented in crime statistics. Hispanics of any race and "Other" are over represented as well, while Asians and Whites have the lowest incarceration rates.It's literally in the PDF that's in that article you sent me, pic related.
I also brought up Sweden earlier for exactly this reason, conducting a study involving anything "native and immigrant" in the USA and in Europe are going to have vastly different results when compared, for example https://archive.is/DIstA
And, if you coincidentally also happen to believe that blacks are over represented in crime stats due to racial discrimination, doesn't that fact invalidate your assertion anyways, since in reality a large amount of incarcerated blacks are innocent?
This is actually good material to make the civic nationalist trumptards who post black people with American flags reconsider their position though.
Void · 2018-03-13 19:45
>>7166
>migrant
There it is again. The concept of migrant crime is used to manipulate the numbers in favor of an illegitimate idea. Replace it with the raw source (race), and you'll see that spics are overrepresented in prisons.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=2200
You are a dishonest kike arguing in bad faith, or you're just a fuarrrking retard who can't into basic soykaf. Either way fuarrrk off.
Dujour · 2018-03-13 20:16
>>7169
Well, if you have no pieces of evidence to contradict the post that started this discussion (>>7156), I will go ahead and continue to believe it. Have a blessed day.
Yet Another Lainon · 2018-03-13 20:19
>>7168
>And, if you coincidentally also happen to believe that blacks are over represented in crime stats due to racial discrimination
That's not a plausible reason for the statistics. It's certainly part of it. Racism is a thing but nowhere near the whole of it.
>doesn't that fact invalidate your assertion anyways,
No. Nothing you've said invalidates their assertion because their assertion (>>7156) was about migrants.
>in reality a large amount of incarcerated blacks are innocent?
I don't think there's many who actually believe that. It's not a reasonable explanation of the evidence. There are plenty of reasonable explanations though.
>civic nationalist trumptards who post black people with American flags reconsider their position though.
Why would they want to? Regardless of statistics that black guy with an American flag is an individual. Even if the crimes rates were way higher there'd be an overwhelming likelihood that he's in the majority who aren't criminals. These trumptard's interest is in supporting Trump, they'd be fools to push away aid based on demographics statistics.
>>7169
>Guy comes in and makes a statement about migrants.
>But that isn't what I wanted to talk about.
>Better call him a kike and a retard.
You know what can be very misleading? Raw statistics. If you fail to normalise, you're going to be left with all sorts of contamination. Pic related is a good example. By your argument this proves that pirates help prevent global temperature rise. In reality, just like with pirates, there are a host of other factors at play here.
Batou · 2018-03-13 20:52
>>7151
Wtf you talking about?
The white man did some cultural appropriation that is mkay?
Mohammed raped little girls before the whites ever got an inklin for diklin little girls
Agent Smith · 2018-03-13 20:59
>>7172
Don't talk about my prophet you infidel.
Your cultural marxist secular governors take sandniggers and niggers to your country.
You have butthurt because your sisters wifes daughters fuarrrking with them.
Don't blame islam because theyre whores>>7172
Special Agent Bob · 2018-03-13 21:23
>>7173
Who said anything of your prophet you crazy mudslime?
It's not my problem every fuarrrker from your religion has the name of the prophet
isn't that kind of blasphemous?
Splicer · 2018-03-13 21:45
this thread shows how Applefuck has failed lainchan
Netrunner · 2018-03-13 21:49
>>7176
That's unfair as fuarrrk. Do you remember /civ/? This soykaf is just a part of the internet. Report it and move on.
Technician · 2018-03-13 21:59
>>7176
>>7177
They know they can't fight it, so they allow it to spill over
They tried containing it with /civ/, it failed
They tried banning it and deleting the threads, it failed
They are trying to ignore it, maybe it will go away? ;)
Do you guys think actually it will stop?
Crazy Jake · 2018-03-13 22:12
>>7176
I stopped going to 4chan's politics board exactly because of this soykaf. Multiple years of these same exact arguments will get on your fuarrrking nerves eventually. The other side will never listen and it just eats away at your sanity. I don't understand why does this soykaf have to be brought here when there are so many places online for mundane arguing like this.
And of course there are the guys who derive great pleasure from writing how they love cracking fascist skulls in gory detail, and the guys who love to mention Germans and niggers 10 times in one post.
I don't remember soykaf being like this before ~2015 and I want to go back.
Agent Richard Gill · 2018-03-13 23:09
>>7179
Damn this chan is filled with whiners
Waaaahhhhh waaahhhh, dumb fuarrrko lol
Ivan Petrov · 2018-03-13 23:10
>>7178
>>7179
Getting it to stop probably isn't possible. In some ways it's not even desirable. Challenging ideas are good and an outright ban requires mods with all their biases or worse AI to start drawing arbitrary lines around what's acceptable. The real question is making it manageable and there are two sides to that. On the personal side "hide this thread" is your friend but half the rules are about not letting people just soykafpost that stuff. If they want to post it and have it stay up they have to actually put effort into it.
It has gotten a lot worse in recent years. The internet is serious business these days and nation states are putting a lot of money into manipulating discourse. I doubt much of that has filtered our way. They'll probably be focused on the few big sites that dominate the net but it creates a normality of going out and wage slaving for your cause. The world is changing.
The big sites get by on basically being an echo chamber. Even if the site as a whole isn't you'll usually only see the posts of the people who agree with you, though they all have different mechanisms for how they do this (rl for facebook, votes/sectioning for reddit, following for twitter).
As for our options who can say? This is new territory for everyone. Filtering things yourself seems the best option for not getting incredibly tired of soykaf while still keeping control over what you see. Try to give things a chance though. Sometimes threads turn around.
Appleman1234 · 2018-03-14 00:14
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