RIP 4chan

Keeper of the timeline here. As the only other imageboard worth using, I think Lainchan should be first to get the final one. I'll miss that 4-leaf clover tab in ways no normal human being can understand. May Yotsuba feast on tendies in Elysium forever.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf.)

>>44746 Hope they will fix 4chan. It serves very well as a containment board. If It eventually dies some genuinely mentally ill niggas will just spread everywhere and cause massive chaos

>>44747 This got me wondering… What if some fugger somehow hacked into and deleted all of social media one day and the only way to communicate would be altchans, forums, IRC, XMPP, personal sites, phone numbers, … real life.

>>44749 Welcome back to 1998. You'll like it here...

>>44747 Hi anon, mentally ill user here. How do you do?

I just want somewhere to post food recipes, pictures of my dog, and images of funny monkeys all while calling other anons gay and retarded. Is that so much to ask for?

>>44749 Would be fire if all that was left to communicate with is ham radio.

>>44757 I'm thinking ANSI over a meshnet. It will be like the BBS days again, but cheaper and more portable.

>>44746 4chan is coming back, it's only a matter of time. The website is down because they have to write new code to fix the exploit responsible for this mess, I estimate weeks (probably) to maybe a couple months (doubtful) at most. This hack really forced the developers to do their fuarrrking job, so now they have work to do. If they don't fix anything and put 4chan online again, then it's just going to happen again, and there will be more chaos. But if it doesn't come back online, like the devs just give up and let it die, where will they all go? Reddit? lainchan? Maybe. Maybe someone will take up the responsibility to make a new website like 4chan, and then they will go to that place. I hope it comes back. When I think of this, I think of lainchan. The people here are different, and the quality of posts is much higher than 4chan, but this place is almost quiet like a ghost town. There is a fraction of a fraction of the amount of activity on lainchan than 4chan, it puts me off honestly, like no one is listening, and lack of activity is just boring.

>>44759 One of the things that emerged from the code being leaked is that Hiroshimoot has done no maintenance since he bought the site. It was still running on code from 2016. Even if they do fix it the trust of users with more than 5 brain cells will be completely gone. The only people left will be the absolute dregs. If you're looking for an optimistic prediction, just remember Eternal September forced everyone to make their own blogs and forums. Total final death of 4chan will probably inspire the best anons to create something instead of hanging around in the ashes of their former glory.

>>44747 > mentally ill are we all mentally ill ? I know no normal sane person using imageboards

>>44762 Unfortunately, I only use 4chan when my life is in the gutter, so for me that statement is kind of true.

>>44746 Hope they fix it. I barely used the site, but a few of the smaller vg threads were comfy to hang out in. p was cool to every now and then. And if not...who know maybe this is (yet another) first step in getting my internet addiction under control

>>44765 4chan is good because there's little gems in the pile of soykaf it is. it's all about finding a comfy board or general you can always come back to, or finding a thread you like on accident. >>44760 realistically no one cares about how well the site is maintained. if 4chan is back up people will use it just like before. maybe there will be more people calling hiro a retard, but that's about it.

>>44746 Sup lainchan, wandering pilgrim here. Been dropping in on all the old neighbors to say hi. I sincerely hope 4chan is dead for good, or at least nobody actually goes back there. It's been unusable for a while, we were mostly just hanging on out of spite. You guys are still a ways down the succession list tho. All the real old users are on 8kun. A few recent users went to 8moe instead but mostly just the /v/ crowd, nobody with any self respect wants to relocate to a mexican transvestite hotel. Some people hanging out at sharty of course watching it all happen in real time, but that's just a block party and nobody's seriously relocating there. So 8kun it is, and as the traditional helms deep of imageboards they deserve the honor or curse depending how you see it. At least until the server goes tits up from having the traffic increased a hundred fold.

>>44771 >8kun but that site isn't searchable with google.

>>44746 Personally I'm hoping the site doesn't recover from this and that maybe most of the better anons migrate to a new image board or any of the altchans. I'm tired of discussion stifled by jannies or the dregs that want to smear their soykaf everywhere and turn every conversation into a flamewar just so they can their little dopamine rush from (you)s.

>>44765 I don´t really know anywhere better to discuss vidya honestly. Even at it´s worst you could still see genuine gems being brought up way ahead of normal person websites, and you had good memes and OC once in a blue moon...

>>44771 >Some people hanging out at sharty of course Wilful traitors, all.

>>44777 I'm a refugee from 4chan. Can I get a qrd on laichan and its culture?

>>44781 did you watch serial experiments lain

>>44782 I have not seen it, no. Do you have a link?

>>44781 just be chill and post when youve done something worth sharing or have some well put together thoughts. Its slow, but quality. You only need to watch lain to get the aesthetic its not an IB strictly about lain or lain-related topics. I think we could use some generals to add variety, like Im working on a /fit/ thread OP. But tl;dr we're very laid back

>>44785 Thanks! I'm just checking out this place today.

Maybe, just maybe, the death of 4chan will bring the death of anonymous imageboards as a whole. The truth is that to users of 4chan what really matters is having a place of discussion that is active and scarcely moderated. Pseudonyms are good enough for anonimity's purposes, and they've been giving their email away for a while anyway. After all, what's the difference between answering to a twitter screen cap thread and posting on twitter directly? The generals will move to discord, where they can ban skizos and better cope with excessive offtopic brewing soykaf that has become a major problem. Then, there wouldn't be a new 4chan. Altchans would initially get a big boost in activity, but then they'd start to fizzle out. The truth is it's 4chan notoriety that drives new people into imageboards and it's the place where they find out altchans. Imageboards have long lost the claim of being the place where people can find OC, interesting discussion or witty banter online, so all that altchans can offer is a 4chan-lite experience with less toxicity. That has appeal to people burned out by 4chan, and little one else. It's only a matter of time until imageboards become a relic of the past, used only by a couple thousand enthusiasts worldwide, like gopher, and with a collective activity of less than 1 PPH

>>44787 For me, it's all about free speech and anonymity. If I use a handle or nickname, I become fixated on my e-personality and "fame". That's a problem with discord.

>>44767 >or finding a thread you like on accident That's pretty much gacha

>>44749 Do it, Hiro. You've already done something similar in the book.

>>44749 better yet, let's just go back to pen and paper. >>44755 >Is that so much to ask for? you are on lainchan, so yes, it is. please migrate elsewhere. >The people here are different, and the quality of posts is much higher than 4chan, but this place is almost quiet like a ghost town. >quiet like a ghost town >boring >>>threads getting a couple replies a day == ghost down please no. quality takes time. >>44781 >>44784 lainchan loves lain it is ideally 50% programming, 30% philosophy, 20% drugs OP's are supposed to be quality, soykafty one-liners usually (ideally) get deleted it is a s_l_o_w place if you are posting more than a 1-3 times a day, something is very wrong if you don't know how to program, don't do weird drugs, and don't read philosophy, it is probably better for you to migrate

>>44785 >like Im working on a /fit/ thread OP Don't forget to mention fiber and low-intensity exercise for fat loss.

>>44785 yeah new users from /a/ should definitely watch lain if you haven't especially if you like this site so far! >>44787 i don't think imageboards will die at all, people from altchans almost never find out about them from 4chan since we usually actively gatekeep. i think many like me found out about this chan from the lain wiki. 4chan just stole the spotlight, but if things stay this way, not only we will actively get less normal people and more good users (since they will have to do more work to find us out) but the norm will be 'do you frequent anything else beside socials' and not 'do you go on 4chan'. it's good to have more ibs with different interests.

>>44794 I actually tried doing the pen pal thing with distant friends but I had some issues with letters not arriving either at their place or mine, it's so annoying.

I'd like to find a decent /x/ place for schizotheorying, occult and esoteric discussion, and that one guy building submersibles to explore lake tahoe. There were still a few of us having a good time sliding around all the weirder soykaf and nobody generals, but esoterica/occult/gnostic soykaf is already such a niche hobby... does lainchan go for that?

>>44787 I think image boards still have a niche that other sites can't really fill which is being able to communicate not only through text but images and videos. It's a very simple format that's quick to use unlike traditional forums which were slow and clunky and required a ton of hoops to jump through just to use them. Websites like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, ect. are just terrible for having these long form discussions and don't really replace image boards. Discords are overly moderated and lack anonymity. I don't think anything will ever reach 4chan's popularity, but I'm certain an alternative website will fill the void. 8chan was semi successful as an alternative until they had their own drama so it shouldn't be too difficult for another successful image board to spring up if 4chan actually kicks the bucket.

>>44798 we occasionally get an esoteric/occult/etc thread, but usually with an emphasis on either philosophy/religion/technology, since that is what this place is all about check the catalogs, we probably still have an old occult thread floating around that could use a bump also, for all newfriends, please CHECK THE CATALOGS threads here live for 4+ years, so making a new one on a topic than is already alive is frowned upon >>44785 IIRC we might still have a /fit/ thread in the catalog, there was one that was semi-active a few years ago

>>44798 Youd have me to post in an /x/ thread. Why not bake an OP? Itd be just a general refugee board the first couple threads but over time itd prosper. I frequented /srg/, /ceg/, and random /x/ threads. If we could recreate 8chan's original /fringe/ Id love it

>>44798 i love and drink that soykaf and many others do. check the catalog for every board. lain in general is mostly about the occult+ technology, so watch the anime too. i know for a fact we have an esoteric books thread on /lit/ and recs about occult related media on /inter/ there's also a search page: lainchan(dot)org/search.php

It is like kicking dead whales down the beach there was a cool BlazBlue thread before the hack now where the hell am I supposed to blazbluepost???

>>44755 Same, same. I've been trying to browse reddit but the formating is too weird and I don't want to sign up to post. The soyjack board that contained the guy that hacked 4chan had even worse formating and was unreadable as well. It is funny to me I usually browsed my little generals and smaller boards and had no idea about the qa drama, I just ignored it the whole time and didn't really care either way. Oh well two weeks it'll be back.

>>44746 Obviously 4chan will be back online, but I feel like after this kind of accident, their already cratering user base will be going down even further, and in the near future Hiromoot will either try to sell it to someone (lol Elon) or close it down. It's been a shambling corpse since at least 2016, and pretending that 4chan is still relevant in the current mainstream Internet is baffling. Niche, small imageboards like Lainchain will still stay relevant as a niche thing. Maybe one day culture on the Internet will see a revolution, and imageboards will become the mainstream format of online discussion, but for now it is what it is.

>>44804 >now where the hell am I supposed to blazbluepost??? anywhere but here.

>>44809 >Obviously 4chan will be back online I don't know. This might be it. That'd make me sad as I had a lot of ritualposting frens there.

>>44812 It will come back even stronger. Hiro has a degree in cyber security now. All the problems will be fixed and the site will never be hacked again. Pic related

>>44816 What a clever clogs you are, lianon.

>>44809 >Maybe one day culture on the Internet will see a revolution I feel like a post-apocalyptic scenario would happen, when everything would be conducted in a "pre-historic" manner after too much technological advancement.

>>44810 so you don't like BlazBlue Understandable.. :(

On that topic, what are some comfy altchans? anon.cafe seems to be dead, no idea for how long. I used to lurk on dvach and sleepychan a while ago but don't really feel like going back to those two at the moment

>>44794 I mean you guys are great at being who you are, but you are far too neurotic and straight-laced to host the regular crowd. >>44775 >8kun >but that site isn't searchable with google. No but allchans is and maintains current links.

hey lainchan, been an on off lurker here for a few years, watching the chaos unfold i just thought id drop in. hope this place never goes the road of 4chan or /g/ and i hope most of them don't find this place

>>44826 I'm in your position. I've been on 4chan for years (not b) and I'm trying out lainchan now to see if I'm a good fit for this place.

>>44828 Thanks bro. Much obliged.

>>44826 I like Wizchan since it has its own culture, and there are a lot of relatable maladjusted individuals like myself. Unlike other places for lonely individuals, the crab in a bucket mentality is frowned upon. I've heard about some drama about the previous and current owners though, but I don't follow the site enough to really know the specifics.

Used to frequent lainchan when /g/ started filling with all the comsoomer threads and endless nvidia vs amd wars. Somehow last I saw /g/ it deteriorated even further with loads of AI and other generals. Saw the news yesterday >and just remembered about this site. Glad it exists and is same as I remember 8 years ago.

>>44809 >their already cratering user base The stats on some boards are truly crazy, /lit/ lost three quarters of its userbase since 2021

With the death of 4chan and it's /lit/ community, it would be good for us to share our memories of the site. So respond with what you loved, what you hated, the highs and the lows. Use this as a way to articulate the impact the board had on your own life.

It had a good run, it's just that it ran too long and could have used better stewarding after moot left.

>>44809 >Niche, small imageboards like Lainchain will still stay relevant as a niche thing. I am very old. My experience with listservs, newsgroups, BBSes, forums, chanboards and social media tells me in small numbers communities are fun, thriving things but metastasis of a population is what changes a grasshopper to a locust.

>>44846 >Somehow last I saw /g/ it deteriorated even further with loads of AI and other generals I'm sorry to say that I used to hang in those, but I don't know why they needed to have so many separate threads, when they were all just about posting some silly pictures. In general, my 4chan usage has pretty much settled into just following a handful of niche interests that you could almost just turn into some RSS feed. Ultimately that's the most annoying thing about incidents like this, it's not that a domain goes down but that people disperse to different sites, and for a while you feel like that Dopesmoker album cover trekking around trying to find a place to talk about that one interest you have >>44848 It felt like the average age has gone up significantly, a lot of imageboard users are 30/40+ who have just sticked around because imageboards are their preferred format, then gradually people stop visiting and at the same time not a whole lot of new users come in

>>44872 >lived through eternal september and all comparable events Have you learned anything that helps your predict where the next "nerve centre" will be? I've heard Usenet enjoyers say it's a matter of technological barriers to entry, but imageboards don't really require any special skills to use and they still had a period of absolute dominance in the late 2000s. Anarchists might point to freedom from corporate censorship as a factor, yet webrings of blogs and private forums already offer this and you don't see nearly as much broad cultural impact come out of them. Is there some factor I'm missing that moves the high impact core userbase to a new medium?

>>44828 >but you are far too neurotic and straight-laced to host the regular crowd. >newf4g who hasn't met circumcision-senpai or cl4mped-kun and doesn't know about the secret lain x uncle ted x terry davis love triangle >>44876 is it really you c1amped-sama? please info dump again some day. >>44822 i don't care about it, but lain doesn't love random-anime-brewing soykaf outside of the containment threads in /vis/ nice digits or something

For anyone who thinks 4chan is dead forever remember the exact same thing happened in 2013. Also OP's chart is gay.

>>44882 >yet webrings of blogs and private forums already offer this and you don't see nearly as much broad cultural impact come out of them Usernames probably have a lot to do with it, a lot of forums seem to become more about interpersonal stuff when people have recognizable names and can see each other's post history, and then you need to conduct yourself accordingly. Imageboards certainly have some recognizable posters as well, but most people are just an anonymous blob. There's probably been several times that two people are talking soykaf about each other in one thread, and at the same time they're both in another thread chatting or helping each other out with something but they have no idea

>>44765 I don't, and I say this as someone from 2005 who went on to janny 2 boards a decade ago. There's a measure of contempt for everyone associated with the things the boards supposedly want to talk about that's become the norm now, a sense of shrinking userbase, and death by a thousand cuts in the form of individually small decisions making the site less usable.

>>44888 I'm fairly sure a mod (that acted like an entity, a group) worked to doxx me a few years ago. Given their use of the "parallel construction" method, I don't know, but anyway they had to build a compelling case with plausibility deniability built in as to how they actually got the information they revealed. They proceeded to make veiled threads "you know, your state has red flag laws" and so on, going so far as going to a location I'd photographed and taking their own picture of it. If it wasn't someone who knew me (implausible, but possible) then it was someone who had access to the IP, and therefore could narrow the search space considerably. Not sure, I have a few suspicions there. Either way it was a good proof of concept. And yeah, board culture is soykaf. Nothin' fun about it. Lot of post-irony, lot of self deprecation. Just garbage. Like creator, like creation. Ugly, self contradictory, malformed.

>>44886 >the exact same thing happened in 2013. An Australian used the RSS feed for /j/ (which should not have existed) to get into unauthorized places but he made no changes to the site itself and he exfiltrated nothing. His net impact on 4chan was moot stripping EXIF off uploaded pictures because the dude's entire motivation was to harass a femanon on /int/ or /trv/ who'd been lying about where she was in her pictures. At the time, the board's PHP engine was still current, not 9 years behind.

Why is my 4chan thread watcher here?

>>44779 nah alot of jannies were abusing their power and felt untouchable, so watching it it's unfold was enjoyable. plus it confirmed my shizo suspicion, they use shadow banning and have private logs/notes on users and their IPs using aggressive browser fingerprints going back to at least 2016

>>45317 4chan was a cesspool. Or rather it is a cesspool. That place isn't going to die just because hiro took it down for a few days or even weeks. But, assuming it will be down for long enough to finally put the thing out of its misery, I will most miss /lit/. The poetry threads in particular. It was quite literally the one and only place on the internet, including private discords (other than Frater Asemlen's server), where people wrote metrical poetry. The very last keepers of the flame, as it were. I would say that such people will find a new home somewhere else, but they were universally lazy schizos that learned poetry out of luck, boredom, or isolation, and held no particular desire to discuss the art or to contribute to its proliferation -- it was just another hobby to them. Nonetheless, given that /lit/ represented the very last bastion of "community" (if you could so ennoble it) among the very last remnants of the metrical poets, its loss represents the truly last death knell of canonical verse in the Anglophone world, and the final victory of free verse and nihilism over poetry.

>>45318 maybe it was a cesspool, but it was our cesspool

>>45319 Something that deletes my soykaf and bans me constantly for going off script is not my anything, clearly and demonstrably so.

It was a ripe fermenting septic tank. I truly believe the toxic beliefs in display were being rendered down and tempered into a harmless or even beneficial form by being churned by critique.

>>45321 Lol, as if. 4chan was a controlled pressure release valve, and a sort of parallel virtual reality, but draining and refining it down to something beneficial? You have to be kidding. That is quite simply insane.

I'll miss /sffg/ bros. Where will Bakker bro go?

>>44809 Hiro is gonna ask for 4chan Gold™ to post, to “recoup server/code upgrade cost”. The little grubby bugman just can't help itself. This will mark the final nail in it's coffin. But it won't be till another 5 years until feds finally ahut it down, reevaluting it's usefulness as nerd radicalization chamber.

>>44908 Heh... to have lived to see the meme become reality. An odd irony.

>>[url=https://lainchan.org/lit/res/11212.html#q11212]11212[/url] To my comrades of /m/, Never kill yourself. Salute

>>45322 Manure is disgusting and blood and bone stinks but they promote fertility. Not all good things come from pretty sources. Soil is a festering war zone under the microscope. Nothing with keeping comes from purity. In fact I believe the current nightmare is caused by decades of trying to enforce a nice clean political landscape.

>>45325 You're oversimplifying. Yes, change requires both decay and renewal, destruction and creation. But it's occurring a much broader, overarching scale. This is part of it only indirectly, it's not part of anyone's plan and it's not even accidental. It is highly misleading to state otherwise.

>>45324 Sorry for that soykaf, still getting used to this place

Guys I’m kinda worried that everything I posted in high school is gonna be attached to my name somehow. Is this likely? Sounds irrational but I had a real emoincel phase during Covid and I abhor that part of my history now. I was just trapped inside and just lost my mind.

does anyone know where /jp/s /djt/migrated to? i miss those fuarrrkers.

>>44931 >young enough to have been an emo kid during covid You have many years ahead of you to go through phases and get doxxed for them. It's really not a big deal unless you actually planned a serious crime online.

>>44934 I know that, but still. I was a teenager who had no idea who the fuarrrk I was and of course during a lockdown trapped with my family as an angry teen I would get into Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson soykaf and use porn as an escape for not being able to talk to girls IRL. I just don’t want my real life identity associated with any of it. I’m afraid that some edgelord will doxx everyone and make like a wiki with every anon’s real identity and the soykaf they posted. Totally delusional but my mind is going crazy worrying about what if.

>>44796 Off-topic but, is this from a webcam? If yes - could you please share a link to it? I'll trade you a link to one in Hokkaido you can move around: http://nywebcam05.city.nayoro.hokkaido.jp/viewer/live/index.html?lang=ja

>>44935 Cmon bro how many other kids lose their way and start brewing soykaf on 4chan? Also for someone to expose every anon would take FBI level access to people’s ISP information which for the average hacker is impossible. All they wanted was to expose mods and put /qa/, not expose millions of anons.>>44935

>>44931 It depends: The sharty guy said he won't leak user data but i doubt he won't and 4chan is likely to be hacked again if it really gets up again in 3 weeks. Did you always had one ISP? Does your ISP give fixed IPs only? If yes to both, then whatever you do next (i.e. host a server or make posts) change your IP and maybe use something like Tor for good measure to not repeat the same mistake. The likely thing that is going to happen is that if whoever choses to do research on your persona and he has access to your IP info (like, say in the future you post on some forum and you are particularly bad, then that forum gets hacked and someone sees your IP connected with your account and he wants to doxx you), he's probably going to cross research with this leak first if user data gets leaked. Also please don't post those kind of memes, they're pretty annoying and pretty much no one likes them here.

>>44938 if i simply stop posting altogether am i safe? I honestly need to stop brewing soykaf anyway. Also im not really bothered about anyone having my IP since its public info anyway. Is IP all that can be extracted from 4chan? > Also please don't post those kind of memes, they're pretty annoying and pretty much no one likes them here. sorry, i guess i am half normal person after all

>>44936 no need to trade anything lainon lol, we have a thread about internet cameras and someone made me find out about insecam.org. definitely post some if you know any!! https://lainchan.org/vis/res/11909.html#q11909 I don't remember the link though but it's from the "popular" section of the website and you can also search by country so it shouldn't be hard

>>44938 also command prompt says DHCP enabled. So does that mean any IP linked to previous posts wont trace back to me?

>>44939 >Is IP all that can be extracted from 4chan? It's just a guess because he did post a page with someone's IP info and a catalog of all his posts and his bans (what seemed to be a janitor moderation page) while he had access. But to reiterate he said he will not leak user data, so right now there's no data to be extracted by any users. I'm just saying that user data getting leaked is a possibility but that's true for any forum and imageboard you frequent. The anonymous thing is pretty much an illusion that stays up as long as a website is not pwned. >I will just not post again I would tell you not to post there just for the terrible quality so yeah, but also it's probably going to be pretty hot as a target in the future and i wouldn't trust their moderation since it also requires cloudflare + captcha + JS + cookies and no VPNs and Tor. If you look through the source code they also kept info on your OS and had flags to make someone "suspicious" based by their OS only. >>44941 that's probably your local computer DHCP server for your LAN, i'm talking about the public IP for your router. it's an info that can be found only by asking your ISP or searching "does <my ISP> give fixed or dynamic IPs" or going to ipinfo.io and looking up your ip every week or so and see if it changes.

US glowies are planning something That's why they had to """shut it down"" It was run by them afterall

>>44942 >someone's IP info and a catalog of all his posts and his bans thats it? thats all there is? Also im living in a pretty dense student strata building so does IP even matter?

>>44940 Ahh I didn't know there was a thread. Thanks lainon, I'll check the thread out. I love webcams, especially at night. Makes you feel like a phantom observing the world. Most of the ones I know are from insecam too, except this controllable one from Hokkaido. Here's a funny pic from one I found in a farm.

>>44746 It's sometimes sad to see the end of the era. In my heart I'd always hoped that facebook / instagram / google would go dark before 4chan; that it would linger on as one of the last remnants of the old internet that I fell in love with back right before 08'.

>>44942 >so right now there's no data to be extracted by any users. what are some preventative measures i can take to protect myself? im in a pretty lefty yuppie circle now and i cant ever have them know i was a ben shapiro fan

>>44948 Bro just chill out no one can do soykaf with your IP except cops

>>44893 I knew the janitors were following my posts around and talking about me among themselves, we really were friends. All this time i could feel i wasn't alone.

>>44952 oh god it's retarded please, for the love of lain, if you don't know what you are saying don't say anything at all... >>44948 >im in a pretty lefty yuppie circle now and i cant ever have them know i was a ben shapiro fan 1) get better friends 2) get better philosophy you cannot un-leak your data, and you cannot erase the past.

>>44954 if its just my IP thats out there in the open thats fine. it changes periodically and people can find it if they want anyway easily. I just dont want my actual face/name associated with my posts. please tell me im safe from that.

>>44955 i can't promise you anything let's assume every post you made was archived along with IP/timing/other useful tracking data. it would be straightforward to group posts across IP-changes based on stylometry+timing analysis, unless you are using some sort of actual IP-obfuscation (guessing NO since 4chinz derezzed most of them) so assume they know everything you wrote, when you wrote it, and what IP you posted it from. Is that enough to get back to a name/face? depends on how retarded you were in sharing information, but it is certainly plausible. the real question is: did you piss anyone off enough or do you "look interesting enough" for anyone to give a soykaf and bother finding you? and again, seriously, get better friends...

>>44957 i never gave any other information and as far as hardware i phoneposted alot with an anonymous browser. I never made enemies with anyone and mainly just posted incel soykaf when i was 16

>>11213 I remember those. dw I'll make sure to let all the fluids flow, I won't vice.

>>44958 bro an index of all anons revealed is a ridiculous thing to be worried about. noone can be fuarrrked to do that. the posts will probably be archived a while then slowly trashed after people get sick of hosting them

Completely unrelated to anything at all. But I got nostalgic and remembered some old flashes, namely 0x40 hues. When did everyone stop creating cool soykaf?

Guys I used my real email for the email verification process What can I do to protect myself? I'm scared

>>44788 Why you posting your Colombian creep shots from Wednesday afternoon 3rd March 2025 taken by your iPad 5th generation front camera, Huehue? You think you're still on 4fedschan? Make : Apple Camera Model Name : iPad (5th generation) Orientation : Rotate 180 X Resolution : 72 Y Resolution : 72 Resolution Unit : inches Software : 16.7.10 Modify Date : 2025:03:05 13:48:36 Host Computer : iPad (5th generation) Exposure Time : 1/30 F Number : 2.4 Exposure Program : Program AE ISO : 80 ... Y Cb Cr Sub Sampling : YCbCr4:2:0 (2 2) Run Time Since Power Up : 6 days 23:10:35 Aperture : 2.4 Image Size : 1280x960 Megapixels : 1.2 Scale Factor To 35 mm Equivalent: 14.4 Shutter Speed : 1/30 Create Date : 2025:03:05 13:48:36.419-05:00 Date/Time Original : 2025:03:05 13:48:36.419-05:00 Modify Date : 2025:03:05 13:48:36-05:00 Date/Time Created : 2025:03:05 13:48:36 Digital Creation Date/Time : 2025:03:05 13:48:36 Circle Of Confusion : 0.002 mm ... RIP lainchan. By the time the fed honeypot re-opens any useful threads on this site will have been pushed off the back of the catalog. On 8chan we had to contain /refugees/ to their own board so they wouldn't trash the site. If you are a /refugee/ intending to hang around: 1. Watch the entire Lain series. 2. Don't make new threads. 3. Only post when you have additional knowledge to add that improves the quality of the thread (i.e. no brewing soykaf) I doubt 3 will happen which I why I already said RIP lainchan.

>>44970 I miss 8chan. Are there any archives floating around besides whats in the gnothi seauton compendiums? Got into it 2019 but stuck to tulpa threads and didnt get to explore it much before it went down.

>>44781 It's more like a slow forum, engaging in arguments in bad faith just for the sake of it is frowned upon as is being needlessly mean. It's not a replacement for 4chan if you still feel the desire for that almost any other altchan will do, but if your favorite times on 4chan were genuine discussion without the burden of identity, where the opinions are what mattered most because there's no point in having ego involved anonymously then lainchan is pretty good for that .

Hey lainons, just wondering where do I go to discuss /out/ stuff now? I'm pretty sure most channers who bothered to go to smaller chans never touch grass, but I also can't be the only one.

>>44882 I think one of the reasons is that if you open an imageboard for the first time it might feel a bit jarring, replies are numbers in the post that link to another post instead of a neatly organized column and they all mix together, another thing is that all boards are separate and have wierd names like /qa/, /v/, /inter/ and whatever. Instead of having the content come to you thanks to the algorithm you have to manually search for your interests yourself. I remember for example when I started using imageboards as a teenager and it took me a little bit to understand how they worked, I also introduced 4ch to a lot of friends of mine and saw their reaction as well. This plus the stuff the other lainon said makes me think that it's very unlikely that imageboards will ever become the center of internet discussion ever again. Also the newer generations are ironically less tech/internet savy than people born only 20 years ago, I can't see a future for imageboards outside of being niche, even though it's even easier to use them instead of any other plqatform because there are litterelly no barriers for entry, the worst thing you might get is a waiting timer on your first post.

>>44981 unrelated to that, I'm a new user, is it common courtesy to choose a name and use it on the thread or it doesn't really matter? I read the rules but besides saying that a random name gets generated there wasn't anything else (unless I missed it)

>>44983 it's just a randomizer of names from cyberpunk related media and real life people but no you're not supposed to pick one don't worry

if i change my IP address am i safe from the leaks?

>>44971 Yeah, infinitychan got derezzed shortly after we worked out feds were feeding each anon a different version of the website in real time. NSA have the best archives, but I'm not sure if China still give out browsing access. =Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

Hope you guys don't mind if I ramble here for a bit. I am a gen Zer who discovered 4chan way past its prime, but still used it extensively. Like I wasted an ungodly amount of my teenagehood on that website. I have this love/hate relationship for it that I've been struggling with for a long time. Before using 4chan, I was more of a normal person. I mean I guess I've always had the nerd/geek personality, so I had the "4chan personality type", but when I was younger I felt a little more in-tune with the mainstream and with my generation. Like the websites I used to use when I was younger were Vine, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Then I discovered 4chan when I was in high school and I started feeling more and more like an outcast. I generally agreed with the sentiment popular on 4chan that the old internet was better, that traditional forums are better than Reddit or social media, and I still kind of agree with it now, but because of that I basically stopped using the mainstream social media websites, which made me feel even more disconnected from my generation. To anyone who's older than me, you gotta understand that for us gen Zs, the internet is practically inseparable from real life (yes yes I know, this isn't a good thing, and also Lain predicted this), so not being on the big social networks got me a lot of odd stares. But of course, feeling like an outcast was part and parcel of being a 4chan user, so for a while I kinda just embraced it. I've surfed the web and stumbled upon countless of small communities and forums more than I think anyone my age has, and that's all been really cool, but I've never been able to shake-off this feeling that maybe it would've been better if I'd never ventured into the outsider internet, that I'd be far happier now if I just stayed in the normal person-sphere. These past two days with 4chan being down has made me really consider these thoughts. I feel like I'm way too emotionally attached to 4chan and to the outsider section of the internet as a whole, like to an unhealthy degree. It's got me thinking that maybe I should just take this as a sign that I should move on from 4chan, forums, imageboards, etc. and just give in and re-join the normal person internet, and basically try to become a normal person myself. But then I think about all the time I wasted on the outsider internet, and I think, was that all for nothing then? Like what did I even gain from that? Did I gain anything? I left the normal person-sphere, slightly ruining my teenage years in the process, and now I'm just going to come crawling back?

>>44988 1) You would be surprised at how much people as young as you are here (i'm one), so stop generalizing by generations ("For us genZ"), because it's immensely stupid and us being close in age does not make us similar or connect us to some even more stupid stereotype. Feeling an outcast also greatly depends on your real life surroundings. This infighting between young and old and feeling inferior because you are not "old enough" is only a thing in 4chan as most things that are born out of resentment in the internet and then were exported to social media. Personally i find the generation label thing to be a sign of great mediocrity whenever someone uses it. 2) You were basically still using social media by using 4chan. It's the closest thing to social media the internet has outside of the corporate bubble. As for why are you even here, i personally have my interests and beliefs and i find that many people here share most of those with me or at least the general attitude. You see, that's the difference with this or any other imageboard and that crap. Most people go on that crap because they want the quick dopamine and the soykafpost fix. So now they feel completely clueless, because guess what, the internet isn't for most people. I'm saying this in good faith, but if you can't even think of ONE reason not to go in the corporate ecosystem then you pretty much never even scratched the surface of the "outsider internet" as you call it. Someone here used to say that before posting on the internet you should make actual real life experiences or do real life things to be able to share something worthwile. I think he was right on that.

>>44988 >Like what did I even gain from that? Funnily enough i think it helped me in certain respects. Theres was some pretty fuarrrked up individuals on 4chan, but others who would just be brutally honest and tell it like it is. Ironically im less of an incel having been on 4chan for so long. I feel like a better, less bigoted, less young and dumb

>>44882 >Have you learned anything that helps your predict where the next "nerve centre" will be? Social media platform success comes from being in the right place at the right time, serving our adolescent primate communication need to feel heard and dominate others with minimum effort or personal risk; the early winners in this arena were small operations where the founders were only seeking to scratch a personal itch they couldn't find elsewhere. tl;dr: no

>>44990 This is true, especially for neurotypicals. There are so many hidden social truths that normal people do that never made sense to me until someone explained it on 4chan. Really showed me just how fake people and society are.

>>44993 I describe their motivations and behavior like they're a machine, often extending this to their inner world and self experience. They don't comprehend this, nor do they like it. They require that veil of self delusion to function.

>>45318 Have you seen the poetry thread here? I'm not a poet so I can't attest to the quality but it might be worth looking at: >>8

>>44893 >plus it confirmed my shizo suspicion, they use shadow banning Not an actual feature afaik > and have private logs/notes on users and their IPs The ban list always did but that's not visible to jannies > using aggressive browser fingerprints going back to at least 2016 It's not browser fingerprinting, it's the native extension's thread watcher. For the thread watcher and "(You)" to work, the extension keeps a list of the threads you've posted in inside your browser in a cookie-like object called localStorage. Before moot left, that's all TW was used for; when you made a post the server only checked your IP address against the ban list's IPs and you saw the B& message if it matched. After Hiro took over, the backend checked both the IP and the TW post list against the ban list's post numbers so changing your IP was not sufficient to evade a ban. However if you change your IP then post from another browser, that works. Fingerprinting is something different where a series of stable metrics on your browser and OS are collected and hashed fo form an ID. Extensions exist to fuzz this data which has led to a decline in fingerprinting's popularity.

>>44986 >after we worked out feds were feeding each anon a different version of the website in real time What? Really? Damn...

>>44996 >Not an actual feature afaik They can set your threads not to bump. >>44997 It wouldn't surprise me is this applied to the whole internet, but I have yet to prove it.

4chan was what got me interested in technology. I ended up on /b/ maybe 14 years ago when I was still in high school because a friend in class told me about it. It had that "sekret club" kinda vibe for me; I knew about something other people didn't. It got me interested in everything related to computers: I saved up money to build my own (budget) gaming PC, I learned about torrents and could get all the music and movies I wouldn't otherwise be able to get, and I started to learn programming too. It kinda changed the course of my entire life. I probably had a similar Highschool experience to a lot of the people here. I had acne and braces and was kinda lanky. I wasn't exactly bullied but I didn't really have many friends. When I discovered 4chan it was like finding where all the outsiders were. That's kinda stupid now considering what 4chan became in the last decade but for those first couple years it did give me a place where I felt like I belonged. It introduced me to anime at large: Cowboy Bebop, Evangelion, Lain, et al. For better or worse 4chan made me who I am. I can't say I'm disappointed in how my life has turned out. I have a cushy programming job, a (internet) culture where I feel like I belong, and real-life people I've met because of shared interests. The site became gradually less interesting and consisted more of actually awful people and frogposters with nothing interesting to say. The popular boards became unusable and the taint spread its tendrils. Any board you went on there's someone ready to call you 5 different slurs applied randomly. I still visited the smaller boards (/p/ and /an/ were nice), but the site was definitely not getting any better. It feels like putting Old Yeller down...

>>45330 Relateable, but far more autistic. I went to 4chan ~2008 and was perplexed. Their way of speaking, their almost recursive self imitation. And I even wrote a post on /b/, like "I figured it out guys. People go to other places and are modified by the social feedback loops present. This becomes their sense of identity, and they tailor their output accordingly. Isn't that weird? Why do they do that?" To this day I basically see people as robots, golem. Though these days I deprive of even that, they're closer to stampeding herd animals. The ones who don't stampede are fake people, who still tie themselves to the herd. Absolutely repulsive. 4chan was something to be used. I consider them all as being there for me, and the whole site existing for me. That is the purpose of their activity. But to indirect with them directly, to get them to output anything valuable by direct means? Never. They will never do it. You have to prompt them indirectly, or more often, you have to take their garbage half formed output and synthesize something of value from it yourself. The value was never in them, it was in me. I don't know why I cannot stop hating them so much. Cannot truly deal with them coldly. I hate them, it is pure disgust, contempt, hot anger. An infinite wellspring of pure rage buried below the surface. There are very few posters and interactions on that site I genuinely appreciated. Though there were some.

>>44998 Well, I can decide to believe what you think is true, or I can go with what I know from having janitored two boards AND what you can read on the leaked /j/ board threads. Janitors can at best request a mod set a thread to autosage but they have to do it in a channel, it's not even a checkmark in the report queue. If it were, you'd see a LOT more threads autosaging.

>>45000 Janitors have the ability to – Delete a post or just its attachment – Ban request on a post whether it's reported or not (which deletes the post from public view) – Verbally request from a mod that a thread be autosaged or ask if two posts came from the same user They are deliberately blocked from thread level operations or sensitive information; this is what makes them jannies not mods. Jizzmoppers, that's it.

>>44885 >i don't care about it, but lain doesn't love random-anime-brewing soykaf outside of the containment threads in /vis/ Ohh, I get it. I will be more cautious about posting stuff here, but thanks for pointing out /vis/. I just have nowhere to go, since, well.. 4chan's dead for now. I hope I won't be a bother for you guys, because I'll be here for a while. >nice digits or something thanks. Your digits are nice too :D

>>44969 If anything i read it somewhere that the emails used for verification in 4ch are "hashed" or something and the hackahs didnt really bother with those and only cared about the info of mods+jannies.

>>44997 >>44998 >It wouldn't surprise me is this applied to the whole internet, but I have yet to prove it. Even though we proved the Silo Internet is real, it isn't as bad as Echelon, and that been around for decades.

>>44995 Did you refer to the self delusion of entertaining an imaginary mind in the first place? I do not understand what you tried to get at in your pöst apart from some visible social angst, you made no effort to translate your personal thoughts for the benefit of communication with others. No personal attack here. I view social protocols as an interesting set of constructs and i think their function is to make something grand out of ourselves through systematization and engineering. Here's the machine element you've sensed in others. Dehumanize people all you want if that makes you feel good but homo-sapiens loves using tools. Praise the mechanical tool of civilization our salvation.

It's a fun place. I don't think that it needs to be serious. I enjoy the numerous Nietzsche soykafposts, group readings, small boards, flinging soykaf at others, random funny threads, etc. It's a fun place to kill time and experience.

>>45329 I've lurked there before actually :) I've been lurking on lainchan for... maybe about a year and a half. In short, there is some decent stuff there, but not much, and I kind of discounted it because of how dead it is. But maybe that'll change now that 4chan is gonezo.

People dehumanize themselves because engineered systems don't suffer from their own existence. They seek to become perfect, it's an attempt to rid themselves of uncontrolled complexities meaning impurity. How the fuarrrk do you even be? Real question.

4Chan will be back, but to entertain the notion: I can't remember the anons who brighten my day, much less the thrilling discussions I was part of that made the place worth visiting. I believe my presence there was due more to the fact that my life was in shambles every time I was visiting it, and I suspect I was not alone in this. I do hope I made some anons' lives a little less worse, even if for a brief moment, some certainly made my days better. Goodbye, space cowboys. Have sex.

>>44771 Nice successor you got here [spoiler]Jackass[/spoiler]

i heard they leaked IP addresses of all users. will it all come out in the garbage of the web or will my posts come back to haunt me?

In air of the hack I've made a /lit/ refuge site. Come pseud post /lit/bros. https://pseudboard.org/index.php

>>45335 So, you've made a registration-required forum for refugees from an anonymous imageboard. Anon I really hope you gave this at least a marginal amount of thought.

>>44981 I've been dreaming of a "modern" corporate 4chan alternative that's entirely made to suit normal people and mainstream. It would have a flat look, white background, beveled posts. a totally modern Ui. maybe even an algo. I know one anon posted about a single board catalogue where threads are tagged for easy search and filters. And It would be left as hell, really reddit. I'd astroturf it so that normal people feel welcomed. Racism is derezzed. I would create the gay democrat 4chan of the 21st century

i never expected 4chan to be down this long

>>45336 4chan will be back online sooner or later. I'd rather experiment and hopefully have something that'll survive 4chan's light turning back on.

>>45050 dear lord the cancer. anyone who wage slaves 8chans as successor to 4chan is a newf@g no matter what they tell you. that's the way it always was and always will be

>>45060 can we not say user here?

>>45052 if your IP is dynamic youre fine

>>45335 Way too many categories for a new forum. Should have 2-3 max, with content being heavily directed towards a /lit/ general. Also, it looks like some corposlop or generic Web 3.0 nodebb thing. Can’t say it makes me want to use it; it doesn’t exactly scream “/lit/“; it screams “corposlop” in aesthetic. I know that’s a harsh critique since your impetus is pure (enough), but the truth is that I’d rather shoot myself than register for a site that looks like that, regardless of who’s on it. I’m not some dumb old user with his head stuck willfully in the sand like an ostrich that insists everything has to be PhP (I’d rather a modern SSR framework like HTMX personally) but this… ain’t it, chief. “Tis not enough no harshness gives offence; The sound must seem an ECHO to the sense” Form is function. Aesthetics matter.

>>44988 as a fellow gen z, i read this and think u should just get off the internet as a whole. reconnect to the meatspace. its as hipster as u can get. 4chan is no underground. just another in-group

>>45060 8chan is dead and 8kun is using it's corpse to masquerade as the original. Different site ran by not even the same people

>>45335 i wanted to participate on it, but >you must log-in or register to post here it's not just about the inconvenience of making an account, but i personally use browsers with auto-deleting cookies and history so i'm not logging in every time i wanna reply to a thread, and even more so, from a different device each time (laptop, phone, desktop PC, smart fridge)

>>45339 I adjusted it so you can participate without an account. I'll leave it this way until issues start to appear. I have the same settings on my browser. Checkout pass, you can grab your passwords through dmenu it's brilliant. >>45338 Thanks for the feedback. I consolidated the categories. I'm working on re-theming it at the moment. It'll take some time though. Funnily enough it is mostly PHP.

>>45340 I won't lie though this motherfucker looks AWFUL at the moment.

>>45062 its a filter to discourage changing the culture here

>I don't know how to feel about that. I'm not registering that anything happened. It'll come back up, it's a long maintenance, will it look different once it returns? Threads will pick up right where they left off. I wished for 4chan's destruction many times but the way this went down lacks any sense of finality. >I don't know how to feel about that.

Did 4chan software log only IPs of poster or did it log the IPs of lurkers too? Someone said 4chan did use aggressive fingerprinting.

This will be my first ever post on this imageboard.. here goes nothing!

>>45112 testes reply. i love all of God's creatures.

2005 old user here. 4chan has honestly been dead since 2012 due to leddit invasion, but I only stopped regularly using 4chan around 2018 because the bots and astroturfing just made it fuarrrking insufferable. The only thing of value left was /wsg/.

>>45116 for me it was /vr/ and /k/. but I did lurk /uhg/ for the war updates because mainstream media had a defeatist and subtly pro zigger attitude. also too lazy to get on the proper telegrams

>>45115 Thank you for your support, but I'm an atheist. I'll see myself to Hell. Sorry for existing..

Testing konban wa minna san gambatte kudasai

>>44908 4chan Gold™makes sense only if you have users, tho. Assuming that 4chan's traffic and popularity will collapse even further after this accident, introducing paid posting will just scare away more users and thus will lead to even faster death. You say 5 years; I give Hiromoot two years at best. This is not massive social media giant with billions of dollars and Trumps good will to support it, it's a soykafty imageboard with dwindling traffic and owner that is a retard.

I've been enjoying the altchan experience. I just wish they weren't so dreadfully slow but maybe that's actually good because it kinda makes constant checking moot

>>45221 I get alerts about new posts fed straight to my retina albeit

>>45221 Honestly, I find it comfier and closer to how the old Internet worked. Traffic is slower, and people are (mostly) acting less retarded. It's more thought-friendly environment where people exchange opinions and ideas instead of throwing garbage at each other.

Hey, this is just a hopeless attempt on my part, but does anyone where the /vg/ communities went? I'm asking specifically for /fgog/ and /lcg/ (Fate Grand Order and Limbus Company generals). Threads were obviously hot garbage, but the live updates and data mining and the like were very good.

>>45227 This except hgg2d and calg

>>45227 I think most of the 4/vg/ cancer is on 8chan /gacha/, it's one of the fastest board with /v/

>>45229 thank you so much lainon, have a smooch *smooooooch*

Actually, since someone else asked where communities went.. does anyone know where /t/ might be? I love the comfy discovery based environment where I can find something new and unknown with a link to that content. /t/ was slow as is, so not holding out hope.

>>45104 why so much stress about IP in this thread? literally just switch ISPs, move house or use a VPN

>>44798 Yeah, same here. There's nothing quite like /x/ or /lit/. >>44787 I wouldn't say the death of imageboards as a whole, but rather the dissassociation of imageboards from the alt-right. Most of them are just retards who want to call others slurs. Twitter and Instagram fulfills that niche these days. >Imageboards have long lost the claim of being the place where people can find OC, interesting discussion or witty banter online It's not a simple as that. Some people use imageboards as they don't want to feel bound by an identity or a pseudonymous name. >>44791 Yeah.

>>45232 Seriously, this. After hearing about the hack I immediately got a divorce, sold the house, yeeted my dog, and moved to a different country. Really not a big deal.

>>45245 >being married in the first place soykaf opsec, you're literally keeping a bio-botnet around you.

>>44800 >threads here live for 4+ years 7chan still has threads up from almost 2 decades ago

>>45245 Residential IP addresses are largely dynamic and change. All a residential IP address actually provides after a few months is general location like city of x or y.

>>45227 100% chance that you all went back to your respective discords.

>>45226 not telling anyone, this is peaceful

>>45221 My ideal speed for an altchan like this would be akin to the slower boards on 4chan like /3dcg/. It would be nice to be able to get a response within the hour, but it doesn't have to be the very minute you post. I really like how Lainchan has boards that are essentially just multiple boards combined so you can browse multiple boards or the whole website at once. I feel like this something 4chan could have applied to let you browse similarly themed boards like all of the /v/ offshoots at once.

>>45258 Aren’t they deleted by ISPs after two years too? Or at least reassigned

>>45258 OK well tell that to my ex-wife cause I seriously fuarrrked up if so.

>>45298 Are you memeing or serious? All 4chan have on you is your old IP and a load of useless browser data if that

>>44970 If you were a real old user from 8 users, you'd know why Null left waaaaay back before the exodus.

>>45318 >I will most miss /lit/. How long ago have you been there last? Cause there's nothing to be missed on /lit/ or anywhere else on 4chan, it's all been straight up spam for years. Most boards I went to became unusable since COVID. Just spam spam spam spam spam. It was bad before but after COVID and the AI boom the whole site has been nothing but literal bots just spamming the catalog on every board, always in the same fashion, same type of posts, all getting bumped systematically over and over forever. It couldn't have been just one user, so it was either some really incessant raiding or more simply, bots. I couldn't even filter the image hashes any longer because bots would change the picture hashes every time. Moderators seemed to actively endorse and protect the bots/spammers because they'd ban you if you ever so mentioned the spam but they kept all the obvious spam threads up while they drowned everything else on the catalogs. I haven't posted any actual content on 4chan in years because I always felt I was just throwing my words into a machine learning playground. I just lurked and even that felt more and more depressing. Maybe it will come back up or maybe it won't but it's been completely utterly dead for years now, there's absolutely no difference. Did the doxx/source data give any insight about the botting that was going on? I'm curious about this. I'm sure that at least 70-80% of content was bots. Absolutely nothing looked organic. Also fuarrrk AI.

>>45343 >there's nothing to be missed on /lit/ or anywhere else on 4chan NTA, but I was one of the main /SIG/ posters on /pol/ - Trying to encourage people to take control of their lives. I also really liked the Evola threads. Not the /pol/tard Evola threads, the ones that discussed the actual Tradtionalist worldview. Even guenon user would show up. It was pleasant. Although, longer term, I also miss 2004 4chan, in general. It was new and interesting, all I did play play runescape + WoW and soykafpost.

Hi frens, i've been an hardcore lurker of 4chan chill side. Comfy threads on wg and wsg, Gondola threads and sometimes homeservergenerals thread on g or lit. Like Gondola, mainly observing without joining in, still feeling part of something... Lainchan always feelt more secluded and underground, pretty chill too. Is there anything around here like /comfy/ thread or similar?

rip ... I am sad that a place I used for over 10 years is gone .. now I am relased into the wild

>>45352 used to use this altchan years ago, but the /vent/ general is maybe what you're looking for, its on the humanity board.

Tired of seeing my posts disappear on here.

i found out some random posted old dating profile pics of me on 4ch*n. If i keep searching for them on pimeyes and having them removed should i be alright? pretty shocked by this

>>44760 > Lainchan > Doesn't realize AI will be the death of anonymous internet. How ironic. AI already so good you could all be AI and no one would be able to tell. It hasn't happened, yet. But the mere suspicion is poison. Why waste time talking to people that aren't even real. Why waste time teaching or informing someone when they aren't even real and will leave the thread no better off? Chan culture has maybe a couple years left - maximum. >>44791 Free speech. Yes that is valuable. But anonymity, no. It's no longer possible. Maybe you could meet up in real life wearing guy fawkes masks for old times sake.

>>45396 Pimeyes is a pretty deep search so yeah. Only problem is literally anyone can take your pics and post them anywhere in the first place.

>>45399 Stop sniffing copium, AI wage slave. Outside of very specific niches, AI is a failed technology. All the Saltmans and Musks reached the limits of what can be achieved in that sphere for a reasonable price months ago, and now they're just doing a silly dance in front of investors to milk the rest of their cash. The AI hype is over.

Well, this is a grim turn of events. Why can't they keep a few boards, the unmoderated ones, deactivated while they don't have the jannies to work on them? Feels like a good temporary compromise.

>>45405 i genuinely feel bad for the guys who got doxxed. Most of them seemed like random students who just wanted to be mods on vidya/meme boards. Now everyone thinks they're some incel kingpin. It's truly cruel.

>>45408 >incel >unironically using the NPC definition of the term incel means "involuntary celibate", as in someone like a disabled quadriplegic that women would never have sexual relationship with, but hey...why would MSM or (you) care? Every time I hear someone use the term wrongly it's like they're punching a disabled person, and don't give a damn. t. there when the term was birthed. Feministas and false flagging feds hijacked the term when it came out.

>>45405 Someone posted this on wapchan and said they didn't know if it was true. I highly doubt this is true, firstly because his own website users say he is an asshole and i doubt he would write something like "this amazing website", and secondly because his leaked mail was a @gmail.com and grapeape@4chan.org was for a "janitor test". Hiro is also more interested in japan's policy about cargo length on road right now, or that's what he's posting in his twitter these days. https://nitter.net/hirox246/status/1913028835593114085

>>45410 I was using it mockingly more in a way that normal people think 4chan is some kind of neo nazi meets misogynists youth brainwashing camp or something, instead of yknow.. a literal anime forum created by a teenager

Does anyone have any real info or realistic news about what can happen now? Will it come back? Can someone use the leaked source code and make other 4chan-type websites?

>>45415 IDK why you would want to use 4chan's source code when there are other opensource imageboard projects you can use right out of the box rather than having to wade through 4chans source code in an effort to update it. There is going to be a Cambrian Explosion of alt-chans should 4chan truly die on top of the already existing alts getting more traffic. This is the Golden Path.

>>45415 It's gone for good, same as when they took down 8chan. It will come back in a few months in some neutered even more than it was already form.

>>45399 >anonymity, no How is anonymity not valuable? Every other forum of communication on the internet is tied to identity - real, or a handle. In either case it becomes a popularity contest. Same thing was true back when forums were more popular. Some dude would have 12,000 posts and a million badges below his avatar and his word would be given more weight. Anonymity is the only way we can have an unbiased marketplace of ideas. The fact that tripcodes are socially discouraged on image boards is great and reflects this fact.

Why did they do it? I feel distressed..

>>45415 In a few weeks 4chan will be back online, but between their already dwindling user base losing trust in Hiromoot, some people getting used to living without 4chan, mockery of the masses, and sharties probably attacking them again, I assume that it will fail and die for good.

>>45418 Ah, but that's where you misunderstand me. I do think anonymity is very valuable. I do think we get a a popularity contest without it. I do think it's incredibly helpful for an unbiased marketplace of ideas. Those things will indeed be lost when AI makes anonymity impossible.

>>45423 That image... Memories of /vg/. Finally, we are truly ded. That's one of the few things I will miss if 4chan never comes back up, or if no users come back to the site at all

The end of 4-chan has been a blessing in disguise. I needed to get away from that place. Though I will miss some of the boards. Excited to discuss retro tech & cyberpunk stuff here though. Let's all love lain.

I miss /s4s/. Lainchan is nice, but I miss my home.

>>45417 I still remember how jim the pig siezed control of 8chan, gutted it and then let the feds finish it off after that polfreak shot up the mosque. Nobody even knows what im talking about when they say I miss 8chan, they just assume im being edgy. But I wouldn't be who I am today without that site.

>>44759 they would splinter among a dozen chans just like you're seeing now.

>>45433 >nanochan enters the chat

I don't intend to do much more than lurk here, but out of curiosity are there any filtered worlds like fam and to be honest were on 4chan for example?

>>45416 >4chan died so anon will live forever I hope you're right. As much as I want 4chan 4evar this would be the most poetic end. There isn't much left to preserve either, so a dignified death is probably best.

So why did /qa/ get shut down that led to them making the sharty and holding this grudge for so long? I never checked the board myself when it was alive so I always assumed it was just a place to talk to the mods or jannies, I had no idea about any of this until the 15th. Apologies in advance if this seems like I'm asking to be spoonfed, I just don't really trust what little I was able to find from my own searching and would rather hear it straight from another anon.

>>45440 Apparently people there were kind of extra soykafty and disruptive and were involved with a lot of raids on other boards, mostly focusing on (but not limiting to) /lgbt/. Basically, instead of its intended purpose, it became a breeding pit for cancer that was hurting the rest of 4chan... so admins in their infinite genius decided to close that containment board and turn people from there into their personal enemies.

>>45442 Interesting, thanks for the succinct reply. So it was basically commandeered into becoming a place dedicated to organizing raids. I've never had to run any sort of large community and have no plans to ever do so but at least from this small bit of information I can see why they thought that might have been the best course of action. What do you think they could or should have done instead that would have been more effective at dealing with them?

>>45438 A few. Mods here also delete threads on certain topics.

>>45352 I don't know what you're talking about exactly we've had gondola posters this whole time. there's no particular thread for them, but sometimes a gondola webm will be posted alongside goofy wisdom and a serene kind of vibe. one of the admins is a gondola poster too. as for specific comfy threads, /r/ has a couple of threads like that. there used to be one that just said "how did you create joy today? how will you create joy tomorrow?" with some lesbians that was really sweet. more content like that would be nice I think..

>>45439 >dignified death is probably best. What dignity is there in its demise after hacks, doxxing, a dwindling user base, and leaks suggesting its infrastructure was essentially abandoned following Hiro's acquisition? It seems more like a mercy killing.

>>45443 It's hard to tell what could be done to stop this from happening. The reality is that this was the result of long-term ignorance of admins and mods to the cancer that was growing and festering for years on 4chan. If moderators would do their soykaf properly and technical admins would regularly update the website, things would be different, but for that Hirojew would need to acknowledge that taking care of 4chan is in fact a serious job and just hire these people and pay them properly.

>>45456 Mercy not found. It was brad dourif stabbing saruman in the back from that one scene in the movies.

>>44759 >4chan is coming back, it's only a matter of time. 2 MORE WEEKS BRO

>>45411 No, this is exactly how he talks and has since the day he started there as the janitor for /b/ and /r9k/. Think about the guy who asked for those boards and was grateful to have them. I know because I started the same day. When he got promoted to mod that's when /b/ reports were sent to all the janitors' report queues because moot (correctly) decided there shouldn't be another /b/ janitor. He is trying his best to be moo2 without the technical knowledge, anime knowledge, or a number of things and I'm guessing he lost more than one mod. >19 janitors Shit, that's rough. The sheer amount of derision this year's April Fools prank laid on the users made me think "there's gonna be comeuppance" but I didn't expect it on this scale. It was just a hateful way to fuarrrk with anon and RA needs to learn from it or maybe let someone smarter take over.

>>44943 That screencap was faked and gayed

>>45405 Can someone post the full of this?

>>45440 For a long time, /qa/ was just a meta board. People would discuss the site and its happenings there, posting about things like the april fool's events and such. At some point, though, I would click on /qa/ and it was just wojak and soyjak variants, people quoting an entire post and attaching a soyjak image mocking the previous user with no added value, etc etc. I somewhat understand the humor in the absurdity of the average reply like that, but it didn't take long for it to flood the board, people getting fixated with the hanging trannyjak, and raiding /lgbt/, which led to it being shut down pretty swiftly. This soyjak era lasted only the better part of a year, but apparently it was long enough for it to become *the* definition of the /qa/ board on 4c

>>45488 I never saw that board up to anything interesting or heard about it, the soyjack trend probably missed most people

>>45509 Have you considered using 8kun as a 4chan alternative?

>>45509 The exploit was the boards allowing PDF uploads not actually checking the file type of the upload (a 1-line signature check) that permitted people to rename encapsulated PostScript files to .pdf before uploading – which was a vuln for the version of GhostScript on the server that handled PDF thumbnails. Unfortunately because the server OS hadn't been upgraded since 2014, the GS library couldn't be either. This was a known vulnerability but Hiro and RA had no interest in continuing to update any of the system moot left them.

>>45519 Ewww no. They require accounts now.

>>45524 Im not 100% on if gookmoot and grapeape are not the same person, but what I do know is the entire site is run by grapeape with like 3 other actual staff, everyone else being jannies and mods. Im not sure why they cant just update their server if that was the only issue. Did soyjacks destroy everything as well? I guess they would wanna check to see if they left any more backdoors.

>>45526 >Im not 100% on if gookmoot and grapeape are not the same person Rapeape has been manager since 2012 while hiro probably never used 4chan before meeting moot in 2014. >the entire site is run by grapeape with like 3 other actual staff Various side tasks appear to be assigned to some top-level mods, like yournamehere and ABIB being in charge of the IRC. Other mods probably had other tasks. >everyone else being jannies and mods Besides mods and jannies the leak also listed two admins (including hiro) and two mods as being devs.

4chan has been a walking corpse for some time, time to finally bury it

>>45574 Though slower chans are enjoyable in their own way, there is something very exhilarating about fast chans. That feeling of live event threads going so fast that thread bakers can't keep up. That excitement of hundreds of people reacting to the same thing. Even though it's shallow and milquetoast, I think a large imageboard like 4chan still has its place in the modern internet, and I hope they don't die.

>>45576 Slower is better for actual discussion and chill vibes, so long as not too slow where it feels boring waiting weeks or months for any comment worth reading.

>>45581 >Slower is better for actual discussion and chill vibes Yeah, but most don't really go to 4chan for discussions. It's mostly brewing soykaf galore outside of the generals with the occasional blink of lucidity and harmony. I'm an avid poster of /tv/ and /g/, sometimes /v/ and at the end of the day it's hard to have something to be proud of.

any idea where the /uhg/ guys went to? I just want my TZD content and most of the altchans are either complete reddit soykaf (8ch and derivatives) or chill and don't post about the issue like lainchan

>>45588 im sorry you have to find out this way anon. but they were all feds

>>45587 >Yeah, but most don't really go to 4chan for discussions. This sentiment is still a little wild to me. Like, I get it. I do. But having seen what even the larger hobby boards used to be before 4chan became leddit's dumpster, I'm not sure I'll ever be able to truly let get of my anger after reading a statement like this. There was a time where it actually was a place for discussions, for sharing information, for building up something fun and new with other. /tg/ used to be absolutely preem. /p/ actually taught me a ton. There was a time where /v/ was a haven for oc. God, even the original /r9k/ flood was wild and exhilarating. I have largely disengaged from it well before this death knell. Any return I had was more an addict still looking for some hit rather than anything truly rewarding. I am sure one could tell me about their cozy little corner that still existed in 2022 or 2018 that you remember fondly because you brewed some truly wondrous soykaf in a rare convergence of harmony. But the attitude that 4chan was built for brewing soykaf is the sentiment that killed any value it ever had. And that attitude has been there for a long, long time. Good riddance.

Kind of ironic I'm finally getting ride of one of the only social account I had because I thought I could blend in more easily in the various general threads across 4chan boards and this happens a few week later. I must say the post quality was already abysmal 10 years ago but in retrospect it was nothing compared to what it actually became the last few years on some boards. Just a rancid torrent of pepejak, tranny/black/whatever brought up rent free and unorganic meme soup. I disagree about 4chan "not being for discussions", it just became incredibly harder to find them because the catalogue is filled with trash. Flooding templated junk from current_year chan culture starter pack vs talking about stuffs while leaving out some brain farts and random funny pics is not the same for me.

>>45608 Part of what happened was Stormfront raided pol. They planned it going back in 2012 or so iirc. Then their bullshit took over the rest of the site and the rest of the internet.

>rip 4chan I wanted to like lainchan as it is the right vibe, but I can't help but notice how common simple grammar problems are as well as tons of midwit posts that appear to have been made by teenagers. Even in this thread, the anxiety about IPs being leaked betrays a clueless userbase of scaredy cat teenagers. What a shame the kids can't be forced to lurk instead of share their dumb opinions.

>>45614 alot of lainchan users are Russian or other nationality that don't have English as a first language. personally, I have a degree in literature but misspell or grammar because I think it's more expressive and cuter. this doesn't excuse the retards though

>>45581 Sometimes waiting for a reply is like old-school anticipation for a letter or a new episode of a show. Maybe not ideal for online communication, but it's nice to see threads up that haven't had a post for a few years. Necro posting is like talking to an old friend you haven't seen for a good while or picking up a magazine you haven't read for years.

I am getting a new screen today when I try to load a page. It says "Forbidden?" and when I close that I get an error that Cloudfare doesn't recognise the action. is this a step forward, trying to fix it, or is it getting worse?

>>45624 Tried it again now and it opens pages from the 14-15 of April. Are we back?

>>45624 I'd say at least a couple more days and past that i'd still recommend waiting a week in case there's another hack

>i did absolutely nothing but kill /f/ >get rid of some e-waste (didn't mention replacing it though lol) >upgraded the OS (lmao) >OH AND I DISABLED THE PDF HACK WE CANT GET HACKED ANYMORE HOORAY :) >what? >php update? database restructure? >all that soykaf is public and in the hands of the attackers? >lol nah we're good see you soon! Absolute theater, they're going to get owned again. Don't go back or you might get fuarrrked along with them, if you're a stockholm syndrome nigger you better fuarrrking VPN.

>>45667 fuarrrk orange reddit. it deserves to go.

Where did you find that update?

>>45669 Not them, and it looks to be an email to maggot@horsefucker.org.

>>45667 havent used 4chan in years, but big RIP to /f/. that was the board that got me into imageboards almost two decades ago.

>>45667 upgrading to vichan or some other maintained imageboard software would literally solve all of their issues, but i guess they don't care about that. >/f/ is gone that's a shame tbqh. >>45669 probably got leaked on the sharty or kiwifarms.

>>45667 /lit/ refugees need a place to go

If you zoom in you can see the font being different on their mail addresses, i also very much doubt that maggot@horsefucker.org would leak a mail sent to him, considering that it's part of the file of janitor addresses leaked by the hack and the janitor name is written on the side. Not very smart

>>45626 4chan is back. Refugees can be deported.

>>45679 >>45679 Pls i like it here

>>45679 I've visited this site on and off for years anyways so I'm sticking around. Post activity is probably gonna take a nosedive though which may be a good or bad thing depending on who you are.

>>45679 >4chan is back. for now, apparently rapeape outsourced most or all janny work to india. /qa/ got completely removed as well. >Refugees can be deported. they'll leave on their own >>45680 don't sweat it, you'll be fine if you're not obnoxious >>45681 >Post activity is probably gonna take a nosedive it'll probably be the same; personally i think a good chunk of people will end up sticking around or at least post here.

>>45683 >personally i think a good chunk of people will end up sticking around or at least post here. it's already bookmarked, baby! you guys were my only outlet for the past week and i will lurk around and give my obnoxious opinion on anything i can think of!

>>45683 What is wilboard? I wonder if underpaid Indians is going to be better than people who actively hated the site and its users. It might be better in some ways because at least they wont allow there to be like 4 of the same demoralization spam threads to be open at once because they are presumably getting paid and dont have a vendetta against people who use the site but at the same time they will all be normal people who will quickly get sick of the users

That's too fast for a complete code refactor plus hardware/software hardening, no way they're not getting invaded right now by anyone who has studied 4chins' code.

4chan is back but I am gonna stay here, I like you guys too much and this place is far more interesting. It's cool here

>>45687 >What is wilboard? no idea lain >I wonder if underpaid Indians is going to be better than people who actively hated the site and its users. doubt it, there were indian mods and jannies (rapeape is indian himself) already so it won't be much of an improvement (outside of jannies messing with specific users).

>>45689 Same. Before the exploit I've mainly lurked this site via an app, but I've recently checked so many altchans through the browser that I'm just realizing how beautiful lainchan can look its natural environment and CSS. I feel like I've been missing out and neglecting it by using an app. (Yeah I'm outing myself as a filthy phone poster, lol)

>>44746 4chan is back, but apparently they hired a bunch of Indians as new janitors and moderators. While I'm trying to not be racist in cases like this, it's hard to not notice a pattern of tech-related projects becoming much worse after hiring Indians. They already started banning people en masse for using typical 4chan speak. Fostering for years a certain kind of user base and then hiring moderation that is actively against your users is an absolutely retarded idea. Rest in piss, 4chan.

>>45703 That's kind of hilarious. Also we all get it, I am not sure it is that they are Indian per se but just the general issues that come with outsourcing and corporatization, a sort of heavy disconnect from users.

Their official statement about the hack: https://blog.4chan.org/post/781845918774394880/still-standing It's so funny that they are now LARPing as some always united and comfy community when their last blog post was 8 years ago and mods never interacted with users ever. Also, you don't need money to run freebsd-update, and with all the ads and the pass and the mods working for free if the users don't feel insulted by reading"we didn't have enough money" (for 13 years) nothing can save them.

>>45710 > One slow but much beloved board, /f/ - Flash, will not be returning however, as there is no realistic way to prevent similar exploits using .swf files Yes there is. lmao >No other website can replace it, or this community. lol! haha even Also have a throw back from 10 years ago: >As for any future leaks that may inevitably occur—frankly, I look forward to them. I’ve been amused by past leaks because they usually show just how mundane and even-keeled 4chan’s moderation team is.

>>45710 I wonder what would happen if they were reported to the IRS because clearly the money is just going into their pockets not the site or even their time.

>>45710 >We weren't able to update the software anytime in the last 10 years due to lacking man hours and money. >Anyway, with no revenue whatsoever we were able to update it all and bring it back online in 11 days >>45245 >gets hacked >gets rid of dog Be careful out there lainon

>>45713 >Anyway, with no revenue whatsoever we were able to update it all and bring it back online in 11 days What's funnier is how disabling /f/ and pdf uploads + salt and password change took that long in the first place. They are still using the same of everything so the software update should not have taken that long by themselves. I mean aren't there forks around already that are tweaked to run on updated php versions. They probably just took one of those and slapped it on a fresh freebsd install.

>>45717 >they i'm convinced it's just one guy and rapeape is doing all the social public work and hiro doesn't even know about this yet (he's posting about japan politics in his twitter since this happened). ffs, the git commits were just @desuwa for 13 years since moot left

>>45718 >the git commits were just @desuwa Should have known Desu was doing all the work.

>>45712 is 4chan registered as a company? how does that work in the states? isn't ownership technically japanese now?

>>45712 >reported to the IRS because clearly the money is just going into their pockets I'm sorry but by what logic would this be illegal lmao >>45720 "4chan LLC is incorporated in Delaware but has registered businesses in New York, Virginia, and Ohio. 4chan Community Support LLC, the company listed as the owner on the 4chan website, is similarly incorporated in Delaware. According to documents filed with the state of New York and the United States Patent and Trademark Office, 4chan’s American headquarters is listed as Los Angeles. Both limited liability companies report their address as a post office box in central Los Angeles. Nishimura has said he is based in Paris" https://www.wired.com/story/who-owns-4chan/

>>45726 Yea they also have archival history to michigan and often run on Canadian servers btw. But Id think the history part is moot era. Id second that LA or atleast cali location. I wont say exacty how I know this, but I will sort of say it...I was a real meanie one day and took advantage of who I guessed was a jannie trying to share a project (something I actually did like btw! If you are reading this) but i sent him an IP grabber in a way that I knew he'd click it, and it pinged to a los angeles IP. The guy was an indian or muslim fyi, for any of the soy injectors here in 2025 that are still stuck in the past on "heckin ebil nazi ra rah racists wah wah white supremacist!!¡!"

>>45703 Just decided to run a small test to see how fuarrrked 4chan is right now. I left a small hate message towards moderation with few anti-Indian slurs, just for fun and tests. Kid me not, I got derezzed (without even linking the offending message, weirdly) for "breaking the US law." I don't care about it, it's a dead website anyway. I'm just baffled how the moderator taking care of it was so butthurt that they forgot to link the damn message and pulled the "muh US law" bullshit for calling moderation "street-soykafting Indians."

I am going to stay here, I like this place better and feel more comfortable here. 4chan is a toxic dump, has been a dump and it's taken me this long to realize I should not return there. Any other new lainons doing the same?

Guys, can someone please explain to me without insulting me what happened to 4chan?

>>45742 TL;DR is that someone on soyjak.party hacked 4chan via a malicious PDF since the software that they use is dated back to 2012 and the site went down for a while. Mod/jannie emails got leaked and some of them were using their college emails to moderate the site And it came back /thread

>>45743 Can you hide soykafs on pdf and jpeg files? Was it like a link in the pdf's text? Did it get enabled by opening the pdf?

>>45221 Yeah, sure, this is "dreadfully slow"... You're just used to the hyper speed of 4chud akin to the 10 second tik tok shorts that fry your brain after 2 weeks. This is the right speed. This was originally a site where "people went out, touched grass, then came back and talked about the experience. Rinse and repeat". It's supposed to be this speed because people are supposed to have a life outside the chan

>>45745 Lainchan would be perfect if it didn't constantly delete my posts. eg: https://lainchan.org/q/res/13348.html https://lainchan.org/q/res/12915.html

>>44746 Why is that soykafhole back up, I thought I was free, for once. God, it's over isn't it. I'll never be free of anything.

How will it not just get hacked again? The source code that leaked had loads of vulnerabilities I thought, surely they didn't rewrite the whole thing that fast?

The hilarious part is that RapeGape did absolutely nothing. Turning off PDF upload, closing /f/, fuarrrking updating their OS after almost 10 years of being unsupported, and turning off a few PHP bullshit is a joke of a security update. And it took them a whopping 11 days to do this barebones update. 4chan is still a broken mess and will be hacked in the future.

>>45762 Watch better anime. Then you'll never be tempted back to the cesspool again.

>>45744 iirc the pdf was "opened" by the server to generate a thumbnail, using an outdated version of ghostscript, which had a vulnerability enabling RCE

>>45804 It's a cunning trick. Well it's back now so we are alright. But going back after this break made me realize that it's a bit soykaf. I miss the 2007-2011 era.

>>45806 We had some fun leading up to the eclipse on /x/. Vague posters and all, despite them usually being intolerable. If you know, you know. Wink wink. You're getting closer.

>>45808 /x/ was fun. Now it's all new age bullshit, wiccan spells, butthurt about Jesus and lucid sex dreams with succubi. Nothing actually spooky /x/ stuff like we used to have.

false. there was new user cancer then just polniggers

>>44746 fuarrrk 4chan I got derezzed for no reason

>>45810 Yeah, the content and vibe is polarized towards esoterica and theology. The new age is laced in in the form of vague posters and people just repeating things. "This is how it is" vibe coupled with "if you know you know" vibe. Sucks.

>>45740 >>45703 Im never going back to that website, they got rid of one of the only boards i go on