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why is everything so simplified? Eversince 2018 or 2016 it's been going downhill with the internet, google is fuarrrked up and no this isn't some "dead internet theory" bullshit, but more "it's easy to do x or y so everyone uses it". from the time i gain consciousness at the end of 2016 or since Terry Davis died god spit at us and left. AND I BLAME THE END OF FLASH SUPPORT.

90% of the people just want either to watch some funny videos or jerk off. Not many are concerned how it will be done and trough what. Also, phones. thanks for listening to my ted talk

>>42311 You can’t even use search operators anymore

Most of the population are genuinely retarded and have never needed to operate anything more complicated than a mobile phone in their lives.

Because many decades of psyop media propaganda from multiple ideological, political, religious, and commercial sources finally effectively lobotomized much of the public. Even many of the ones who aren't physically retarded are rationally retarded now. Add to that the fact that ever increasing anxiety causes people to cling ever more tightly to absurd belief-systems as their security blankets. This will all continue to worsen until there is a major reduction in global human population resulting in a collapse of civilization similar to the bronze age collapse or the dark ages. Then, assuming humankind avoids extinction from climate change, there will be another "renaissance" and the whole cycle will repeat. Ho-hum.

People choose easy, convenient, fun and simple over right, moral, true, real, whatever. And they do it every time. There's no conspiracy, it's not necessary, people don't care about your niche field of interest, they just want convenience without thinking. They just don't care that you hate it, they don't care if someone dies in a sweatshop, they got their McThing from BRAND and it was convenient and easy. As soon as it stops being that they toss it and get the next thing. Simple as.

i'm too stupid to understand OP. what is he yapping about? What made him splerge this thread?

>>42318 move to toddler ui design. I think win8 was a key player in it. Lots of people complained then but that didnt stop the march towards "clean" ui. In general society overall went minimalistic in design. 90s products vs now is a massive contrast.

I dont think it has much to do with Flash support. It more is the use of algorithms gearing more toward advertising. The growth of Google taking over the entire internet. This lead to politicians getting involved with the internet and meddling with it treating it like it is their property because of the corporate interest involved.

It was called surfing in the internet because you went from a website to another, never knowing where you would end or what you would see. Flash support was dumped because early Iphones couldn't run it and they had to make animations/game for the deadbrains with deep pockets who use them. Plus it was unsafe. My point is: those people killed the net. We should have an internet for phoneposters and an actual internet.

>We should have an internet for phoneposters and an actual internet. we kinda already do

>>42311 >and no this isn't some "dead internet theory" bullshit You're part of the problem, for me.

This thread topic is rephrased and reposted at least twice a month. Not to disavow the point of these threads but its always just "muh better days" in the end. What do you wanna do to bring back the old, better days? Link your website OP or tell us about a text board you like or something something actual effort to conserve the old internet ways not just for a better online experience but for the soul of it. Later today I'll be back to post some cool pages when I'm not phonefagging.

>>42316 >neurosuggesting pre internet average normal person cattle were less retarded, they simply had no access to spread their filthyness. We had the same type of soykaf pre internet but on paper, somehow it all got forgotten and certain bad mouths accuse the internet and associated to be responsible for the deciline of man, yet conviently forget to mention the internet holds almost all the knowledge known yet most people chose to get addicted to facebook.

>>42794 >second image I genuinely don't care about what gays and vegans do, I support liberties. I truly believe that the downfall of the internet started after smartphones became mainstream, and it became apparent that it was no longer the original soulful internet of our youth after the early 2010s.

>>42812 this. textboard.org (& .net) is enough & it's a SchemeBBS, which means it is written enterely in Scheme which is a dialect of Lisp. But Functional Programming is just a mathy catchy red herring to distract you from real problems of ( Computer ) Science. but I don't think we need a list of fancy web2.0 neocities template pages. or list of null boards. >>42316 this. human instrumentality project is underway. no one need to depopulate Earth, there is a lot of empty space everywhere. And whom you going to send to Mars? Robots? With current trend of population decline even in 'developing' countries, global warming. We began to import population (not even in West). >>42311 pasta bean reposted at every chan. you chasing the dopamine of your golden ages. An hyperfixation. It is became your identity? Touch grass @ make friends. Build a house or RV or boat. Travel z world. (ah sorry, you can't due pandemic or visa restrictions or war) won't be able to run unsigned unverified ShockWaveFlash Macromedia on trusted computing module device. When growing up, I had a book about Flash Animations, that I bought. in 3rd world, with 3rd world saved money, was one of my hopes to make Flash Games. And I had a friend who worked in a Studio Company which sole purpose was to create Flash websites. Tech standarts, browser specs changed so quick, no one asked us, the globe, in a democratic referendum, Search results containing { flash, forums, web1.0 } deprecated in favour of Angular SPA. Same for java applets. They say Flash was proprietary tech of Adobe, but at that time there was already Open standart of Flash. But look, hey, you have heyspace now & webgl with glorious web3. Try it, go play some web3 games that became replacement of flash games, or make your own. or don't use web. You can say same about downfall of usenet, irc, punk rock. such unproducktive threads push us quiet quitting gosh....! I feel something... something moving... something changing... ARRggghhh!!11 What have you done to me OP!? I hear.... I hear and feel Jordan Pietiersohn silver hair and Ickeonic jacket ... an craving & desire to get my life together, find a wife, start big family, have infinite amount of descendants Peace x0x0

>>42315 >Most of the population are genuinely retarded Base reason for everything wrong in the world, among them the Internet's increasingly centralized, spied upon, censored, streamlined state. Generally, anti-consumer companies, social media, politics, wars, pollution, corruption is enabled by simpletons. Why does Google exist? Because their ads sell. Who are the ads force fed to? Retard useds, can't set up adblock or "ad rape feels good actually" cope. >>43058 Clean your room.

>>42311 The Internet is the 13th floor. Simulation in Simulation, overloading the original Matrix. People are only puppets in the simulation. The Elite is a gaming community of puppets to support the simulation Visitors [Gamers]. Simulation dies because it is overloaded. There is no planet, there is no space. Science is the same gaming lore as religion. The problem is only in the fenced elite and stupid puppets.

>>42311 Most people are stupid and don't care about anything besides convenience. It's a really sad state we're in, but it is what it is. You don't have to give any of it value.

>>42311 Because we get out what we put in, they simplify the things we use, we get weak from easy comforts and standards drop and people become docile and ignorant and complacent, bestial, childish, and covetous. >>42315 This. We are all willing victims by design in this regard though. Its the vampire effect, only with retardation, we only become retarded because we are trained to be glad to invite in our own tendency towards it. >>42316 How many resets came before us and will come after us? Its really interesting stuff to consider the cyclic nature of it all. >>42317 This. The absolute state of modernity. >>42808 The real Web 1.0 sites are mostly "dead" and are full of AI, bots, sheells, and the like mostly >>42812 I fully agree with this. Unironically we just have to make the best of it and not lose the magic by falling into the delusion that its the externals that determine everything. Web 1.0 is within us, without us it doesnt exist, the idea they can take it from us is just silly, thus there are really no muh better days and the fallacy of it all really is evident. >>43059 >Base reason for everything wrong in the world You forgot to add the part about how they are gladly made so by the will of a small minority. Only a handful of people WANT everyone to be that way, but only a minority of the populace are not willingly glad to become that way when ushered so as to be. >>43843 This. Do no value it and stand against it within yourself. Sometimes we can stand against it with some outward expression, but mostly the stand against it comes from our inner selves.

>>42311 Because you and I and everyone else asked for it, but we never thought about the ramification of leaving all the power in the hands of faceless, corporate entities. The monkey in the zoo gets free bananas in exchange for its freedom, too!

There have been a lot of mentions ITT of the normal masses being cattle that choose convenience, have no morals, etc. but njthat's an oversimplification. I mean do you get ethically sourced food, or better yet, make/grow your own? What about your clothes? Are you protesting this or that important cause? Because these are the issues that these normal people will make these exact same arguments about on their psyopped javascript-laden dumpsterfires. "Convenient" in this context is just a derogatory way to say "effective", or, per Ellul, "technical". And effectiveness often requires sacrifices of other, more human, more moral values; or to put it another way, morals are expensive to maintain, and each person can only afford so many. From the outside it looks like people are just flocking to the easiest thing, but that's just the aggregate. I think most people try very hard to be moral, and end up focusing on a couple areas, and then handling the rest as effectively as possible. When aggregated across everyone this results in each category having nearly everyone making the most effective choice, with a small minority of moralists going against the grain.

>>45715 some examples of effectiveness vs morality in the tech privacy area: - add cloudflare: less malicious activity - ban tor: less malicious activity - sell user data: more profitable website - track users' browsing and target ads: better conversion rates

>>45714 The "we all voted with our wallets" argument seems like unconvincing victim blaming to me. I consider myself a technical person and I'm fully aware I couldn't keep track of all the brands in the market and their practices, even within my field of expertise. There is a limit to how much you can know and keep track of, and companies exploit this to increase their profits. In a society where everyone was omniscient the "democracy of wallets" argument would make sense, but what is actually happening is a "dictatorship of the cognitive load", to put it in fancy terms. I don't want my life to depend on me keeping track of which food producers have poisoned people in the recent past, this is why regulations exist. Imagine if every time you bought paint you had to take it to a lab to make sure it doesn't contain lead, but then you had to audit whatever lab you chose to conduct the tests, and so on. People don't have to do this with anything else, so why should they have to do it with tech and content platforms.

>>45715 Convenient isn't derogatory, it's just another point of view, and unrelated to effectiveness. Creating captive audiences and network effects (when the use of something depends on other people also using it) might be effective for a social media platform, but it is inconvenient for the user because it makes it harder for them to consider alternatives. But you are right in your prognosis that individual consumer habits are not a realistic solution nor the correct approach to the problem.

>>45715 >I mean do you get ethically sourced food, or better yet, make/grow your own? What about your clothes? Are you protesting this or that important cause? I tend to agree with this. Most people don't have the time or the financial resources to act either morally or even for what would be in their own best interest long term. I know many lainons are NEETs, but imagine that you're a construction worker and just worked 40+ hours a week of hard labor and need to feed your kids. Are you going to doublecheck that the food at Walmart was ethically produced and/or meets certain requirements for pesticides? Do you even know what pesticide practices are best? Apply this with whatever other pet cause you care for, clothing, websites, cars etc. In reality, the argument of "voting with your wallet" is reserved for the privileged.

>>45714 Nope, there is no we. I have i fact believed in collective punishment, but never deluded myself into thinking there is a we. I didn't ask for any of this, directly or indirectly. fuarrrk off with that nonsense. >>45721 "vote with your wallet bro" is nonsense to anyone remotely paying attention. It's entry-level thinking. Things are so tied together that the only way to vote with your wallet is complete opt out and to create and maintain your own replacement.

>>42794 I understood the first comment in the image you posted without any issue. The 'dumbed down' explanation of the comment was way too many words for my attention span to handle.

>>45715 'morals' is a loaded term, but research on altruism finds that around 15% of people have broad-reaching altruism (have a consistent, genuine desire to help others - even strangers - even when there is no personal benefit to doing so) while the other 85% mostly lack this (will assist others only if there's some sort of personal gain, whether material or psychological, only experience genuine altruism in very limited contexts such as towards close family or friends). So no, except for a minority of genuinely very good-natured people, most people aren't even trying to be moral

>>42312 Thats bullshit because you need the internet for everything now. Bills, jobs, it is all online and most people are retards so it has to be dumbed doen

>>45730 1. what research? 2. it isn't black and white the same person can be selflessly altruistic in one context and indifferent in the other. any study or research portraying this as a dichotomy rather than a spectrum influenced by context can't be taken seriously. for example, if someone asked you here to explain a very complex subject you would probably dismiss them because they may be simply wasting your time, you have no way of telling if they are actually interested in your explanation. but if the same poster asked you, in person, I'm sure you would be more willing to help them

>>45732 It's research from Daniel Batson. There's one gene expression that doubles charitable giving when active, some things are basically categorical, not always a neat spectrum.

>>45734 >It's research from Daniel Batson. that's not an answer, the guy wrote a bunch of things, be more specific and just skimming his wikipedia page it seems like his position was more or less the common sense answer: that context is the determining factor >the best predictor of whether a student would stop to help was how hurried they felt. are you sure you didn't misread whatever "research" of his you claim to be referring to? >some things are basically categorical negation by itself is not an argument unfortunately, nor a meaningful contribution to the conversation. it is an observable fact that you can be more altruistic in a determined situation and less altruistic in a different situation