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With the discussion I see from time to time here pertaining to living off the grid, are there any lainons here who have actually done so, or have at least made it to where they live somewhere remote self-sufficiently? If so, how did you do it, tell some cool stories, and whether it was worth it. Currently I'm striving for both of those goals within 10 months :)

>offgrid >online and you don't seem to understand, a shame you seemed an honest man

>>41962 off grid means to be off the electrical grid, not being a luddite. one could use satellite internet powered through a generator, or travel to a place with internet for example.

>>41964 that means you can be "off grid" in a suburban household, no? Just unhook yourself from the electrical grid by either not paying them long enough or telling them to do it. you're braindead homo that needs to be shot down

>>41965 that's why i added 'remote' and 'self sufficient', despite so i'm interested in people who have done the following in any sense of the words

>>41962 Off grid has multiple meanings. One meaning is off the power grid. Another meaning is living in a more rural area cut off from some convenience amenities. Another meaning is no online presence or at least not one easily traceable to your real identity.

If you want to live a stone-age hunter-gatherer lifestyle, find a remote, sparsely inhabited, heavily-wooded area near a source of fresh water like an unpolluted river or lake. If you know how to make stone tools, forage, hunt, fish, trap, build shelter and make clothing from natural materials, and stay healthy, it's entirely doable. Homo sapiens lived that way successfuly for several hundred-thousand years before they overpopulated, destroyed their habitat, and had to invent the crutch of civilization to survive. One big turning point was the invention of the bow and arrow about 70 or 80 thousand years ago in africa. After that, sapiens was finally able to successfully expand all over the world, after many failed attempts. Neanderthals, Denisovans,home erectus and so on, were prbably kicking sapiens' ass befor that.

>>41974 >home erectus Homo erectus still exists.

>>41974 Community was integral to Stone Age lifestyle. You will never be able to properly live that lifestyle on your own.

>>42882 While community was and is a great help and a preferred way to live, people can and have lived in the woods alone for long periods of time. If the environment is right, and you know how to utilize it, you have everything you need for the taking.

>>42883 Almost no people were able to do that independently without advanced technology and a lot of resources. There are so many things that need to be done, and even having one or two people who only barely contributed would be so much more helpful assuming food was not a limited resource. Not to mention the fact that you have a hedge against injuries and illness. While I understand the desire to be isolated and independent, it isn't realistic, even if you're intelligent and a hardy pre-historic human. >>42880 PSL forum user spotted.

>>42883 Not really the point of what I was saying (i think that was me, i don't really remember). Living innawoods may be self sufficient and arguably more fulfilling than living in a city or something, but its still as deviated from how we are biologically designed to live as any other modern lifestyle. People are not meant to live alone.

>>42990 >People are not meant to live alone. Ridiculous statement. Look at the world, so many aspects of our lives is absurdly alien compared to the near past and you have the gall to make such a statement despite obvious evidence that many people have lived alone since antiquity. Humans are incredibly variable and adaptable and are in a period is vigorous change

>>42998 >so many aspects of our lives is absurdly alien compared to the near past would you consider any of the people who live like this healthy? I'm not saying it's impossible to live alone. You could probably turn a screw with a hammer too, that's not the point.

>>42999 Do you have any evidence that most people who prefer to live alone are unhealthy? Or do you simply define people who live alone as unhealthy, which is, of course, poor reasoning? To be honest, your attachment to this idea borders on obsessive. Maybe it's time to stop treating your sociology books as bibles?

>>43003 all anecdotal. though I'm guessing most sociology research agrees with my, though I haven't really checked. >your attachment to this idea borders on obsessive weird ad hominem, but sure. its not exactly a revolutionary idea.

>>42998 Social activities are in the pyramid of needs. Specific individuals who make the choice to become an hermit don't disprove that we are meant to have a social life.