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Dujour · 2024-07-17 04:49
Hello Lainchan! Could you help me? I'm sitting on Ubuntu, the only OS on the computer, I plan to install a dual boot with Arch. Does anyone know how?(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf.)
Ivan Horvat · 2024-07-17 05:50
if you dont know how to, arch probably isnt the best for you
Zhora · 2024-07-17 07:22
If you just want to try a different distro, why not spin up a VM like a QEMU-KVM or VirtualBox? I don't see a reason to dual boot 2 Linuxes, as they are mostly the same. Especially these days with systemd, dbus, etc.
Also I agree with >>41895
John Rain · 2024-07-17 09:20
>>41893
I have no advice, so sorry, but can I ask why Arch? Are you interested in it, or are you using it for something in particular?
Liet Kynes · 2024-07-17 09:39
do you have extra space on your hard drive ? Do you have a spare hard drive ? if neither of these things, you will have some trouble as you will need to mess with ubuntu first
if you have one of those two, then you should be able to install arch onto that spare disk/partition as described in the arch manuals. Once you get to the point of setting up the bootloader, make sure you have something like grub's os prober installed and most likely it will discover the other distro, and just like that you'll be done.
>>41896
this fella has a point, though I'd suggest also the possibility of merely installing an arch chroot.
Cat Mother · 2024-07-17 10:10
fuarrrking hell, newglitterboy
do you think this is "/r/ - retardation"?
take your bullshit "i just learned about loonix today" question to /r/eddit
Y.T · 2024-07-17 20:13
NO ONE KNOWS HOW
You've been warned, kiddo.
Ivan Petrov · 2024-07-17 21:50
>>41897
One of my bros suggested it, so I interested.
Also wanna try other Linux distros.
Splicer · 2024-07-18 13:02
>>41908
Distrohopping is a sign of schizophrenia
Nameless · 2024-07-18 14:39
>>41908
Oh, ok. Pretty much get it. If I ever leave Mint i'm hopping my fat ass over to Debian.
Anons on the desktop thread convinced me to. Their builds are so cool. I always thought debian was an old crappy distro, but you can make it look and run really good.
Koos van der Merwe · 2024-08-13 19:17
>>41895
This.
Also >>41910
If you just want to "rice" your system just stick to a simple and useful distro (Mint or Debian) and chose your desktop manager accordingly.
Xfce is nice and convenient and once you learn a bit it's simple and fun to custom. At least you will learn by ding.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2024-08-14 17:08
it's sincerely embarrassing that me as a young teenager figured this out on my own while you can't op
Cypher · 2024-08-15 07:07
>>41893
You need to have basic Linux command line skills before you can use or even install Arch Linux. Here is a free book: https://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
I highly recommend that you use VirtualBox to make a VM that you can use safely for learning. You should later do 1 practice installation of Arch Linux inside a VM.
>I plan to install a dual boot with Arch. Does anyone know how?
You need to check whether you have the old MBR partitioning scheme or GPT. If you have MBR then dual-booting can be more of hassle sometimes (because Windoze overwrites the MBR to boot into Windows). If you have GPT, you need to make sure that you have only 1 EFI System Partition (ESP).
Then check what file system type your partitions have. You should have at least 1 ext4 partition because most other partition types can't be shrunk. After that, get empty USB flash drive with capacity of 8GB or more. Then download SystemRescueCD iso from https://www.system-rescue.org
Note:
at this point you should have backups, just in case you screw up! Check this thread: >>79324
You should have the backup on a HDD that is never connected to the computer you are currently using. The easiest way is to use external HDD (I recommend the ones made by Toshiba) or you can alternatively remove the SATA cable and power cable from the HDD that has your backups. I recommend using a HDD for your backups because they are better for long-term data storage (especially if you don't power on the drive frequently). Toshiba and Western Digital make good HDDs. Avoid Seagate. Toshiba is usually cheaper than Western Digital but in my experience it's just as good as Western Digital.
Anyways...
Attach the empty USB flash drive to your computer, use lsblk to determine the name of it (something like /dev/sd?) and then use dd to copy the iso file to your USB flash drive. Note that dd nukes everything in the flash drive (but you should always use DBAN for securely erasing HDDs). Then you need to reboot and use the BIOS or UEFI boot menu to select your USB flash drive. Once you have booted into SystemRescueCD, use systemctl stop sshd to stop the OpenSSH server. Then start the GUI with startx . After that you need to use gparted to shrink your ext4 partition. Reserve about 30GB or more for Arch Linux. Close gparted once it's done and reboot. Then you need to get Arch Linux installation iso and use dd again. Then reboot and boot from the Arch Linux installation media you just created. After this you should follow the Installation Guide found on Arch Linux Wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide
>>41910
>Debian
The problem with Debian is that Debian unstable aka sid is too unstable (I have ran it in the past!) and Debian testing repos gets frozen a few months before new stable release.
>Why not run Debian stable?
You see, Debian stable is too stable for home users. You need to either use Debian backports or you are forced to use Flatpak to get new stuff. That may be okay. But honestly I liked Debian testing the most. I have tried all 3 (stable/testing/unstable). Debian testing is not good for servers or enterprise environments (you have Debian stable for that) but testing is perfect for home use, since the packages aren't lagging behind bleeding edge distros too much. I have another tip: turn off suggested and recommended software in APT settings to avoid installing unwanted bloat.
Turner · 2024-08-15 07:40
>>42161
>Check this thread: >>79324
I mean *this* thread: >>>/Ω/79324
Anamika · 2024-08-15 11:47
>>41893
How fųcking old are you OP? This is something a 14 year old asks when he doesn't realize he can google questions or look for youtube guides. You're better than this, go post in a tech questions thread or lurk more.
Daan · 2025-04-16 07:44
>>41893
arch Linux is not good for beginner
Chani · 2025-07-18 11:32
All Linux distributions are the same except for their package manager, init system, libc, and what coreutils they have.
You shouldn't pick a linux distro based on what packages are included.
>Flood detected; Post discarded.
Incognito · 2025-07-19 08:18
>>41910
I use Debian Unstable on my gaming desktop, it has it's inconveniences but nothing I can't deal with. Put a good gaming kernel like Linux-TKG and it's all good.
B Titor · 2025-08-07 09:42
You should just use Debian, i honestly dont get the whole other interested in other distros...
Emmanuel · 2025-08-07 15:27
>>41893
ask in the >>>/Ω/ techsupport thread
BloodCat · 2025-08-07 16:29
>46725
Back when I was new to Linux, I started off with Puppy Linux, then moved on to Fedora. But Fedora was really slow, it took about five minutes just to boot up.
Debian is alright, but its not as lightweight as NetBSD. It also makes it a bit of a pain to do a minimal install. If your orb box is connected to the internet, you're greeted with gnome 3 after the first reboot.