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why is it that every single person who talks about tech is embarrassingly wrong about tons of, often basic, things. on places like hacker news all those early 2000s programming blogs academia anyone in a top 100 company anyone in lower tier companies has the same beliefs but just deviated from the canonical fallacy a top 100er would have even 70s-90s computing companies in in the east

This may come as unsurprising, but this issue is a lot larger and wider than just tech. It's a mixture of culture and (lack of) education mixed with (lack of) critical thinking. With regards to education, people aren't really doing much learning. They get the bare minimum and then they just go forward. This isn't a bad way to learn as you go, but people are jumping into industries like this. The same goes for the language. A lot of people make "best guesses" at what words mean when they read them or use them. It's been devastating on our communication skills as a whole. Anyways, the bigger issue is in the culture. For the last 15 - 20 years, there has been an expectation of you to "build a brand" out of yourself. One attribute of that "brand" is being an "authority" on a matter. You can be wrong all day, but as long as you come off as an authority, you're in the clear. That mixed in with the fact that it's considered rude to correct people... Well, now everything is "just opinion." On top of that, we have people who are reading/listening to these authorities. So, the little bit of learning that they are doing, ends up being incorrect. This has kept the cesspool swirling for awhile now and this is what we're experiencing. The critical thinking issue speaks for itself. I hate that "critical thinking" is considered a meme. Like the idea of giving thought to something is bad. It's was pretty upsetting when I was a teenager to find out the world was like this. Now I just don't bother with others.

well said, hopefully you are one of the chosen few and not just a LARPer who eats up "critical thinking lesson" clickbait

I hope so, too. What an embarassing thing that would be. But I try my best, I'm always trying to improve, and that's all I can really say about that.

Because tech is full of lies and bullshit and a lot of the experts are lying to you because they want you to like their brand or buy their product. Vast majority of people have huge gaps in their knowledge or are total know nothings because education is all about pumping out unthinking bots for corpo enslavement facilities. Why teach someone useful and empowering things when you can teach them a basic skill to get the job done and keep them stupid and easy to manipulate? Knowledge is power so the mighty horde it for themselves and throw us the crumbs.

>people who take a passing armchair interest in a technical topic often don't bother to study that topic to any real degree and as a result get basic soykaf completely wrong holy fuarrrk stop the presses.

>>37276 >Vast majority of people have huge gaps in their knowledge Literally everyone has huge gaps in their knowledge because it's impossible to learn everything. The problem is you get soykaf on for acknowledging them, and rewarded for concealing them. It would be nice if we had a culture where it's ok and respectable to be ignorant and to express uncertainty. In my experience that wouldn't go over well professionally, the main reason being that a big thing people are really asking professionals for is reassurance that everything will be ok and to be comforted in their anxiety.

>>37272 There's nothing intelligent to say about tech. Those intelligent enough to talk about tech don't talk about it. They would rather spend their time creating things.

>every single person who talks about tech is embarrassingly wrong about tons of, often basic, things. "in in the east"

I will quote my own frustration from a couple of years ago: >I worked in IT for 10+ years and no amount of bullshittery I saw when it comes to computers even touches what I see in smartphones. I am convinced that nobody actually has any fuarrrking idea what they're doing when it comes to smartphones. Everybody is just winging it. You know how people wing it with PCs? Turn that soykaf up to 11. Everyone is just throwing soykaf at a massive black box and seeing what sticks and trying to convince everyone else that they know what the fuarrrk they're talking about. You just try to piece together disparate little bits of possible truth and god help you if you need a deeper explanation of something because no further level of detail is known to the person who wrote what you're reading. >I just watched a youtube video of a guy demonstrating how to get a certain phone into fastboot mode. It did not go into fastboot mode. He posted a video of his instructions literally not fuarrrking working. He doesn't even know what it looks like when it works! fuarrrk me! >>[some comment about 'what the fuarrrk are you talking about' or 'maybe ur just dumb' or something] >I'm not sure what you think my point is, but I think these are pretty fair and plain observations: The internet is full of people dispensing advice about Android OS internals in a way that demonstrates a lack of actual understanding. It is difficult to gain an understanding of said internals because of this. It is even difficult simply to find some solutions to apply because of the extreme unreliability of the information that can be found. All of this is similar to, but at a far greater scale/depth than, the way many people pretend to know what they're talking about regarding PCs while dispensing overconfident advice and half-assed explanations. >>[comment asking exactly what i'm having trouble understanding about smartphones] >Anything you try to look up about rooting, unlocking, or flashing a phone (or should I say, including but not limited to) is absolutely full of blatant guessing and misinformation. Every source you find offers a different procedure for how to accomplish each of these stages given a certain phone model, and none of them work. Then you find claims that the phone you're dealing with can't actually be rooted in the first place, which raises the question of who the fuarrrk spent so much time writing all of those guides, at least some of which don't seem to be auto-generated. >The best part is that, unlike with other little tech projects you might find yourself dealing with, cherry-picking bits and pieces and cobbling together a solution is a non-starter. The whole thing is highly opaque and lacking in the under-the-hood detail I'm used to being able to find. I can find pretty much nothing except step-by-step user-guide procedures. If they don't work then they just don't fuarrrkin' work. There is no insight I can use to get an idea of exactly why it's not working (like, at what precise point it's failing) and form my own angle of attack. Only -- run this tool, run this command, and no acknowledgement that it could possibly fail. And when it fails, that too is a black box. And I can understand if we're just dealing with a black box, but then why would we write such definitive instructions? If we're guessing then say we're guessing, and provide some insight about the possible outcomes and their meaning. That's a whole different game, and it calls for some honesty about what we don't know and some detail that we can use to synthesize a solution, you know? >Let me reiterate -- I just watched a video about how to get my phone into fastboot mode using 'adb' commands. The guy is videotaping his computer and phone screens as he runs the commands. And he's just like "yeah so this is how you do it" as the video shows the phone not doing the one simple thing that the video is about. This is par for the course. This is the quality of information that I find about how to get intimate with the inner workings of my smartphone's software. >So, to answer your question, I don't understand fuarrrking anything I want to understand about smartphones, because nobody fuarrrking explains anything. All I can find is glossing-over sort of "explanations" of the type you give people who ask too many pointless questions, and excessively confident procedures that rarely do what they're meant to. Linux guys think Windows is bad, but I'll deal with Windows internals all day compared to this soykaf. >I'm not saying that this knowledge of the inner workings is completely unattainable, but I'm not seeing the middle ground between being a clueless user and straight-up learning Android software development. This medium is addressed well for other platforms and applications.

>>37272 it's because americ*ns value not being responsible for anything at the utmost imagine you want to go to the website of your bank you ask the bank what the address is because you googled it and it brings up 3 and theoretically two could be phsining pages and he's like "HOLY fuarrrk CRINBE IMAGINE NOT JUST GOOGLING IT" then that same user 3 months later falls for a phishing campaign where some site is bumped up to the top of google and cries OMG THIS SHULD BE ILLEGAL OMG OMG 100000 YEARS MINIMUM OMFGGGGGGGGG its the same soykaf in "the hacker community" too. you get these pathetic beings like some mega sperg who snorts while he breathes while coding C and he figures out he didnt know what a buffer overflow is in his library that everyone uses then they all just pat him on the back because "security is hard" and "im a retard too"

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>>37272 The crux of the issue is that computing went off the rails, so to speak, about half a century ago. Computers used to be expected to do work correctly, but all of that changed with the introduction of garbage like UNIX. Now things weren't perfect before then, the von Neumann machine is a major roadblock to improvements, but hardware and software were more holistic, and there was a greater focus on entirely eliminating certain classes of problems. Nowadays people sneer at the very thought of correctness, and it will only get worse. Rather than write a long message I'll link to some valuable articles about this and related topics: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=46 http://www.loper-os.org/?p=55 http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1299 http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-09-24 http://verisimilitudes.net/2020-09-15 http://verisimilitudes.net/2022-02-02 http://ngnghm.github.io

>>37290 This is why I gave up on Android. I've been burnt too many times buying a phone that should work with Lineage only to stumble upon some bs reason why it doesn't. I wish the pinephone was better, it really seems like the best option at this point.

>about >tech this applies to literally every subject. wait till you hear the dumb soykaf people have to say about history.

>>37427 except this is a rant about tech and my job is tech >history is all wrong wow let me guess you have a problem with some tiny minority of people you never met who live in a tiny republic beside lebanon

this is the apotheosis of charlatanry in tech >Can a terminal emulator be as fast as TTY 1-6? >https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/41225/can-a-terminal-emulator-be-as-fast-as-tty-1-6k >answer: >...In comparison, writing a string to a Virtual Terminal running in text mode (note: not a graphical console) involves writing that string to video memory. ‘Hello, World!’ involves writing 13 bytes (13 16-bit words if you want colours, too). UUOOOOOOOOOOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA PFFFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHOWO and dont pretend you dont think this soykaf too retards

>>37272 Tech is unironically toxic. It's hypertribal mind poison. Stay far away. I taught myself to program at the lowest and worst places a person could be physically and psychologically, I had no conception of nor engagement with those spheres, and everything was fine. I dabbled in them a bit afterwards and my working conclusion is that they're a potent type of mind poison that cripples a person's development, and they're worthless on top of it. I'm designed to drink poison and metabolize the good out of it, and those people, those places? There is nothing. Nothing worthwhile at all. I feel really bad for younger people who get wrapped up in those mindsets early on, and end up irreversibly contaminated. Social anything makes you stupid. It makes you a stupid shallow person with stupid overtained shallow opinions and near animal-like conditioned reflexes. If you see someone going down that road and repeating the memes, stop them.

>>37510 And also, it's this way with everything. Music, movies, books, politics, history, religion, ontology, even epistemology. There are always retards divided into camps who are really loud and lack the capacity for abstraction and synthesis. They have a singular mind. Meaning they can't dissociate or compartmentalize, they only have one box to work in. That's why they think and act like that, they can't conceive of anything else. Frankly I consider them a lower form of life. But unfortunately it may be further evidence that you need a bit of stress, a bit of the right types of trauma at the rights times, during early development. Or else you end up with these types.

>>37272 Can you provide more concrete examples? I don't disagree with you, but I think the reasons people are misinformed about tech vary from one part of tech to another. Main reasons are * the media is tech/science illiterate at best and intentionally misrepresents tech for financial and/or political reasons at worst * some people gain a little skills and believe they understand more than they do * many areas of tech are highly complex and require years of involvement to fully understand one niche * some people develop expertise in one niche area of tech and mistakenly believe they know more about other areas * social media reward short, simple answers that can be quickly understood by many people. Often the correct answer is longer and more nuanced. * social media rewards quick answers, so people who take less time to answer a question see their answers reach more people. * forums and imageboards incentive threads with high post rates, so quick, short, and controversial posts are more likely to be on the first page.