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Hello! I'm new to this board, testing the waters migrating from nanochan, so hopefully this is a good community for me : ) I wanted to ask what y'all thought about urban environments and the value of living there for the culture. I'm from a soykafass town out in the middle of nowhere in the Midwest. Early twenties, so still craving to see much of the world, but I'm not the kind of person who's like "OH MY fuarrrkING GOD I HAVE TO GO TO NYC OR CHICAGO OR LA!!!!" What do you city-folk think? Is it worth it?

Rural Midwest lain here. There are some cool things to see in big cities, I remember going to the Mall of America in Minneapolis as a child and loving the aquarium. We don't have things that here, just bars and churches. I find the culture where I live to be different from even the 100k pop city 45 minutes away. It's much more close knit, nobody is stealing catalytic converters and soykaf. People have this idea that there is no culture out here, but that's simply false. They think culture means you live with a bunch of immigrants and blacks, because they came from a boring suburban family who did have no culture, no celebrating your successful fishing trip with a fish fry you invite the neighbors to, no driving deer with those same neighbors, no cutting wood with them, no connection to the earth or community, only living in an apartment they pay too much for. Our culture is living. What exactly am I missing by not living in a city? Getting mugged? If I want to go to a movie or a nice restaurant I can drive there for an evening in town, then return to my quiet country life. Or, I can cook. I think people in cities are losing this skill, I can't have food delivered to me and there is no fast food for half an hour drive. It forces you to live like a human, not livestock. Speaking of, I can purchase eggs straight from a chicken's ass (now cheaper than going to the store) and pick the cow I want to eat from a local farmer. Now look at life in Chicago, NYC, or LA. I have a friend in LA and he talks about how badly he wants to get out of California and move to a place like where I live. Another friend was in California when he was in the navy and moved back the instant he got out. It can't be that great if everyone wants to leave. We don't have anywhere near the crime rates of places like those, in bumfuck midwest the crime as you probably know is generally kept among the drug users, so if you don't look for trouble you won't find it. I never lock my door when I leave my house. Nor do we have the traffic, or the masses of people only concerned about themselves. Anyway, I think it's good for us to get out of our shacks in the corn fields and see what life is like in other places, and there is lots to do and see in those big cities, just that it's limited, after you've seen the things you want to see, why would you stay? For the traffic congestion and bars? People who don't even smile at you? It will give you an appreciation for where you came from but also give you experiences you would not have if you never left, seeing museums, art galleries, things like that.

definitely agree with >>35140 that this does not mean that there is *no* culture outside of cities! But if there's one or a few cultures in rural areas, and thousands of them crammed into one place in a city. For me personally cities are exhausting but the experience has been worth it, and I can always go back to smalltown and have a broader understanding of what it is and why I like it. so I'm not an OMG I HAVE TO GO TO NYC type but there is a real reason why those types exist. If you're "craving to see much of the world" moving to a major city would be a good (if expensive) way to satisfy some of that itch.

>>35140 I've always acknowledged that we've had our own culture(s) out here in rural America, but I guess I've never thought about it as a culture of "living," as you put it. Huh, that makes a lot of sense now, thanks. I guess I desire to a part of something greater. Not like an activist or something like that, idk, maybe, but more like involved in a scene. I don't have a disdain towards crime, actually, and if anything I'd probably be running close with those circuits. But part of me just wants to be in with something that's moving and shaping, developing. The closest we see to development out here is a car factory that might come to town once every few decades, or a new colored person in the public school system (I'm colored, this town used to have really bad KKK activity, but has died down a lot since a little bit before I was born.) I feel like I could get what I'm looking for if I really deeply dived into Internet culture, but around here, people see you and speak of you differently when you only pop out of your apartment once a month. It's weird. It's like you can either go full-schizo basement dweller, or be an upstanding member of society. I'm searching for the grey line.

>>35141 My feelings as well, exhausting but worth the time spent there. >>35143 Yeah, as far as being involved in something greater in a place like where we live, you're kind of stuck with a bowling or pool league lol. Unless you go to the local bars it's hard to make friends, I had the benefit of working at a gas station so I met a lot of people. It sounds like you're bored of small town life, not an uncommon thing. The nice thing about moving is you can always move back, or to a different place. I think experiencing life somewhere else will be a lot more fulfilling than becoming a professional channer.

>>35131 I come from a medium-sized town (pop like 80k). Can't afford to move back. Currently live in an urban core. It's interesting at first, but it's hard to ignore how dirty and crowded and loud everything is. Also, there is no guarantee that you have any local community. I've lived in the same crappy apartment for two years and I barely know my neighbors. Unfortunately, having zero social skills, I don't think I have the option of just moving to a tiny town and becoming part of that community.