Conspiracy thread

What are your favorite conspiracies/conspiracy theories that have happened throughout history?

Here's a classic: the moon landing was faked. This article series drags at first (skip to pt 2 if you're impatient) but is a worthwhile read: https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/ For 9/11, James Corbett produces some of the best documentaries for the subject, going through painstaking effort to only include substantial and verifiable evidence. He also has a great documentary on big oil, particularly about the Rockefellers. https://www.corbettreport.com/corbett-report-documentaries/

>>33946 JFK died to an accidental gunshot wound, government covered it up because of a would be assassin as a convenient plot to hide their incompetence. Also wuhan biolab weapons production that escaped. A few others that are more obscure.

>>33947 >Here's a classic: the moon landing was faked hey this is interesting looking though I feel like the author might enjoy reading his own writing a bit too much and doesn't think through all his claims that seriously. Also looks like it has some good stuff on a few other interesting topics like the Lincoln assasination, though given how rigorous he's on Apollo I'm not sure I can trust the rest of it too hard. Nevertheless feels like the kinda blog I should have run into a long while ago, yet somehow didn't. Thanks for the link!

the genocide of the natives in the americas was not because of "muh" land or jebus though that does help, it was because of their "alternate" history which was probably a more accurate account , therefore declared heretical requiring the subsequent destruction of their holy books and masses. This also supported by the fact that the Americas have been riddled with relics from far off civilizations(also civilizations with things found only in the americas) and such as vikings likely settling and integrating and roman vases being found off the coast of Brazil. Being that these objects contradict the current narrative they are merely regarded as anomalies a funny one was dragons existing, likely because they were the last of the dinosaurs another theory(still prevalent in non-western/"developing" countries) was that the sexual history of any woman would influence any offspring she would have as the genes of any previous partner(s) would taint any future progeny she would have. Tom Clancy was assassinated by the us government with a heart attack type gun. reason? his books were really too close to home(never read his books anyone confirm?) a popular one heard was India being an ancient nuclear super power and this is described in some of their ancient religious texts in relation with india again, alexander's destruction of persia and its library accomplished 2 major objectives which were to make sure many schools of philosophy and science would be attributed to greece or whatever city state was in power at the time(giving the city prestige/authority) and two establishing access to india and its resources. this is very likely since greeks had the habit of writing propaganda even many centuries after the fact Lastly and most importantly is Dodos. Dodos were the indication of previous human contact rather than the other way around i.e. charles darwin is an idiot since pretty much all animals (except apex predators) assume everything else is trying to eat them. In turn, genetic memories/epi-genetics/lamarckism are being found to be very valid. examples/events such as famines or being hunted to near extinction led to many generations of animals(yes especially human) after the fact still exhibiting behaviors and even dramatic differences in metabolic processes.

>>33951 >A few others that are more obscure. Do tell.

>>33953 >Tom Clancy was assassinated by the us government with a heart attack type gun. reason? his books were really too close to home(never read his books anyone confirm?) Clancy was entierly in love with the US military. The only reason he became a writer and didn't just join the army was his nearsightedness. Ive mostly read his non fiction but it much of it is practically infomercial promotion level stuff for the army navy whatever. He takes it seriously and does diligent and good work imho, isn't a terrible writer, but he loves it through and through and is a diehard fan of the Empire. If the 'government' did it its some spat between different parts. Sixty six isnt super old, but it aint super young either, seems perfectly plausible he just you know, died.

This one. I think government done it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings#Russian_government_involvement_theory

>>33959 >Sixty six isnt super old, but it aint super young either, seems perfectly plausible he just you know, died. not much care where it is tru or not.try not being a cunt about it. Thanks regardless

>>33972 wasn't trying to be a cunt, sorry if I came across that way, just giving my two cents.

>>33978 its cool Lainon >>33970 mainstreaming really killed any possibility of games like these existing anymore, old really is gold

>33953 >the genocide of the natives in the americas was not because of "muh" land or jebus though that does help, it was because of their "alternate" history which was probably a more accurate account Same can be said about European inquisition. Europe had Egyptian refugees that knew the old language and practiced the original religion. They deleted them which killed the last traces. >another theory(still prevalent in non-western/"developing" countries) was that the sexual history of any woman would influence any offspring she would that's a proven fact with flies. There's a official term for this too but i can't remember it as i read about it ~decade ago as kid. They let multiple male flies fuarrrk female one then read genes of offspring and compared to parents. Result was yes they found bits of previous fuarrrkbuddies in child. I think the finding was the dna didn't get deleted but pieces got stored in the inner wall lining for later use. Back then they did flies cause they were easy and already sequencing was affordable and because it was important to know for using fly studies to prove points about genetics. By now you could probably afford to try it with people since genome sequencing dropped in price but they probably won't ever try because if its yes they get crucified. >a popular one heard was India being an ancient nuclear super power and this is described in some of their ancient religious texts don't know about superpower but their old book that describes flying machines also describes gods fighting with weapons that produce mushroom clouds and scorch the land. That got the interpreted into oh wow they describe nukes so maybe there was some old high-tech civilization that died out. It plays into the other story of people from foreign lands arriving and teaching knowledge across the world which people conflate with fall of Atlantis -> refugees spread out and bring knowledge. Not a conspiracy but more interesting: While searching online for neuroscience documents on personality alterations i found one of those "after 20 years we must disclose" gov documents - mil let a researcher run a facility in africa to test drugs+torture to rewrite a persons personality for the goal to convert people into agents - capture one enemy and convert into spy without any infiltration work was the idea. They tried all kinds of combinations over decades . Most of the details was blacked out on precise procedures. The result was visible and said still turned out negative. Probably the most positive outcome from most dark experiment.

>>33988 There are a few ways it's technically possible, but not a normal feature of human genetics at all. Almost everyone only has DNA from two parents because the mechanics of embryonic development do not facilitate more. If a non negligible percentage of the human population had 3+ parents we would know it. >According to Developmental Biology Interactive, if an egg becomes fertilized by multiple sperm, the embryo will then gain various paternal centrioles. When this happens, there is a struggle for extra chromosomes. This competition causes disarrayment in cleavage furrow formation and the normal consequence is death of the zygote.[8] Only two cases of human polyspermy leading to birth of children have been reported.[9] >Tetragametic chimerism >In other cases, human chimeras develop when two different sperm cells fertilize two different egg cells. Then, these cells all fuse together into one human embryo with crossed cell lines. This is called tetragametic chimerism. >Only about 100 or so cases of chimerism have been recorded in modern medical literature.

somehow I dont think all of these people are comming up with specific explanations about polyspermy and chimerism when they say the sexual history of a mother influences her future children. Theres some documented differences, perhaps not genetic, between women's first borns and subsequent children, not to mention the obvious implications on i.e. fidelity and all that. the fact that there's some probably differences between the children of virgin bride and well used woman seems like a very reasonable assumption, the exact method is a different matter--nutrition available, sperm effects, simply implications about the character of the lady, whatever. Maybe multiple factors going on. also I wonder how often chimerism is actually tested for, I assume its quite rare but idk if it doesn't result in overtly unusual physical characteristics it would almost always go undetected.

The town of Victorville, CA is a front for the manufacture of "diseases" and "vaccines". A cold was upgraded to be slightly more awful and then a vaccine was developed to cause blindness, retardation, docility. The testing all goes on in the various meth shacks of Victorville, which are also fronts for CIA drug distribution. George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and David Crosby are in on it, and probably many more. We may nebver know the full extent of the conspiracy due to Epstein's data horde being seized by the feds during the Mar-A-Lago raids.

>>33995 My bet on cause is stds - many cause birth defects in the baby. So even if you were clueless about stds existing you could observe whorehouse hoes have more babies born with issues and conclude hoes bad. Only requirement is ability to count which is already present in antique. As for thread topic - you might remember people were made fun of for claiming planes spray something in air - don't remember how they called it but they had a name too. Told they were nut cases for noticing. Well there is tech that does it - its called cloud seeding and its done to control rain fall by letting planes spray particles on which the water can gather faster which causes earlier rain fall. Regular press even had news about cloud seeding because one state made it rain earlier and thereby stole all the water that would otherwise would rain down on next state. Supposedly its a quite large worldwide issue since water is vital and this offers a way to take it away. Once one country starts it unleashes an arms race since next one gets less water and then is offered why dont you make it rain easier...

Some things people have confided to me: Delta force murdered civilians while training New Zealand's SASR Sabre Squadron in I believe California. The UN exterminated villages of people (also raped women and children) on behalf of engineering company ECL Contracting along the border of Egypt and Sudan on the Nile River while work was being done on a hydroelectric dam. The US military has a secret highly realistic urban training ground. Corpses are used for target practice to desensitize trainees. The corpses are supposedly dead servicemen, organ donors. Heard rumors of a secret American military organization that specializes in underground operations. Here is some other stuff: Terrance Yeakey assassinated to cover up government involvement in Oklahoma City bombing. Kenneth Trentadue murdered in FBI interrogation, he was mistaken for an Oklahoma City bombing perpetrator, was secretly detained and interrogated by the feds and they tortured him to death. Timothy McVeigh was never put to death. Kevin Ives and Don Henry were murdered in order to conceal a drug running operation being conducted in Mena, Arkansas, Bill Clinton was involved in the operation. Barry Seal Delta Force sabotaged Seattle WTC protest Assassination of Michael Hastings CIA remotely hijack cars, planes and helicopters US government can make military bases 1.5+ miles underground Scientists can simulate alien abductions

>>34707 broseph: you misunderstand me, I'm just laughing at all the 'co/n' prefixes. Sorry for the CONfusion buwhahahahahahahhaha! I still don't get >>34701 though unless he's just trying to imply there is some coverup (teeehehehehe) because democracy is at stake or something.

>>34708 Oh, hell, I didn't *notice* lol.

I find conspiratorial thinking to be boring. Its interesting when its in an artistic form (like Stein's Gate) because its entertaining, but when normal users talk about conspiracies I feel sorry for them. Often is just used by people to justify their narcissism, or it is used to justify cowardly fatalism.

Russia has been claiming/insinuating that the US had labs in Ukraine that were involved in the development of biological weapons that could specifically target certain ethnicities.

>>34703 >>34706 i was >>34698 but not the posts after i think secrecy is a vital part of a conspiracy. So once public you lose the conspiracy tag. You could of course say just cause its out there doesn't mean that many people know about it so its as good as hidden.

https://germarrudolf.com/en/germars-views-2/204-holocaust-victims-a-statistical-analysis/ https://holocausthandbooks.com/ https://codoh.com/about/ http://ihr.org/ Holohoax is fake. Or at least the 6 millionz number is taken out of thin ass and highly overblown compared to real losses. More like 1 million dead. I'm pretty certain of this one. Not apologizing to them for commie partisans killed and then counted as >holocaus victims

WO2020060606 CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA

>>34701 Excuse me I would like this treatment. How can I become bicameral and aphantasia?

>>34720 Tokenization. Internet of Bodies. SMART cities. 6 and 7G. I imagine just like in Lain, 7G will be the merging. Rather than some sort of IPv7.

>>33997 Conspiracies regarding that particular area of CA >supposedly the police chief of barstow is choking on sand somewhere >Police and city councils are paid off by drug cartels(off topic but neighbor(s) down the street from me got busted for a growing operation, they were gone by the time the police arrived) >military testing is a common occurrence(barstow has a military base) is likely the cause some weird soykaf which happens in the skies. Causes noises at times, helicopters frequently flying overhead at night. >reason most old folks around are pretty retarded is because previous military testing >The area is a hotspot for serial killers and human traffickers, it is very easy to disappear some wisdom for any Lainons, stay the fuarrrk outta san bernardino county

I guess it would have to be that NASA's moon landing was faked, for a little while I was convinced. That flag was never supposed to move and the lighting was usually inconsistent with that of the actual moon. Also if we had the tech then, then why aren't we going back there now? I don't fully believe in this theory anymore but I still find the first moon landing to be a little out-of-line with what real space travel footage looks like, also the first lunar lander didn't look like it could store enough of all the different fuels to safely land on the moon.

>>34822 to be honest the space race then and now were pretty much overhyped series of cons. Kesslers Syndrome is inevitable

>>34829 >kessler syndrome kessler syndrome is overblown as a threat. Space even in low orbit is very big, and loworbit space has a lot of air and drag such that things fall down from it all the time. Even if a big runaway collision event were to happen and kill every satellite in LEO, it would be only a few months to a year before LEO is basically safe again. Higher orbital spaces are even bigger, and wherever you have collisions you're going to have objects diffusing out into larger spaces, so a dense dangerous debris cloud that is actually persistent and dangerous is very difficult to simply accidentally get. Even difficult to make deliberately. >>34822 >with what real space travel footage looks like lol like we would know what that looks like if moon landing is fake. maybe its all basically fake, moonlanding just the fakest.

>>34829 It was probably real but that flag wasn't supposed to move, the moon has no atmosphere and therefore no wind and that capsule didn't look in the slightest like it had enough fuel or power to land on the moon and go up again.

>>34837 When does the flag move in a way that indicates the presence of atmosphere? Its not like objects are completely static without atmosphere. I don't think its too far-fetched to say that the original moon landing was faked, as there was a lot to gain by getting there first, and the original microfilm was "lost", but there is a lot of higher-quality film footage of all the successive moon landings, and it cannot be denied that as much time, effort, and money went into making the Apollo missions happen as it would take to make it happen. Plus there's no reason to fake successive landings, as it gained the Americans nothing.

>>34839 Also, I just looked at some Apollo 17 footage, there are all kinds of things that happen where you could calculate the strength of gravity by looking at how stuff moves, including things that would be extremely difficult to fake (e.g. oscillation of a wrench that is allowed to swing freely, thrown bag of some sort not slowing down).

>>34832 >kessler syndrome is overblown as a threat. nope not even. weapons are being made specifically to target enemy satellites, just having more space does not make it disappear just makes it slower to happen lainon

>>34841 >nope not even. weapons are being made specifically to target enemy satellites, just having more space does not make it disappear just makes it slower to happen lainon to be clear buddy I'm reffering to people who are like 'end of space travel as we know it for ever/centuries or decades at least. Killing all satellites in LEO is plausible, making LEO totally inaccessible for even a few years, I don't think so. That soykaf falls down fast, collisions are going to average the velocities of objects which will generally speaking knock them out of orbit faster. Farther out ? geosynch ? sure ok the timescales here are much larger, but while loss of geosynch space is a big problem for spying and satelite TV services it won't deny spacetravel to the planet. >>34839 >footage One point to remember is that most of the moving image material is television data not film. Best images (ostensibly) off the moon are all film images, the TV stuff had to be recaptured onto solid medium on earth post transmission. Television is a weird thing that I think people have forgotten existed. It isn't film, these are seperate media, both are analog. >as much effort went into the faking as would have been required to do the real thing you're buying their narrative, ignoring i.e. radiation problems, what if the van allen belts just are straight up lethal ? What if the micrometeor threat outside of immediate earth vicinity is actually bad ? There's a lot of things that could go wrong which ostensibly Apollo demonstrated weren't problems, but if these are major problems Apollo would have been exceedingly difficult to do. Part of the claim is that it was relatively easy/safe, and yet it hasn't been duplicated. >>34837 >that capsule didn't look in the slightest like it had enough fuel or power to land on the moon and go up again. the moon is light gravity wise. you don't realize it looking at the Astronauts jumping around but remember, these guys are in heavy suits, clumsy, and even still they can jump like that. Some of those moonwalks were many hours long, healthy guys sure but still. Rockets here on earth have a lot of problems. So as to spend less time fighting the higher gravity, you want to get into orbit faster, but to get into orbit you have to get over the atmosphere, and the faster you move through the atmosphere, the greater the drag you experience (force of drag depends on velocity squared). All of this makes getting to orbit on earth a big problem, Moon surface gravity is less than .2 of earth, no atmosphere so orbital altitude basically just needs to worry about hitting mountains, etc etc. Way different problem to land on and take off from the moon.

>>33970 i'll bite >Knights Templar Jesuits did it better >Illuminati A total larp, ironically invented by JFK's assassin's friend in boot camp. Has not been relevant since like the 1600s >Biological Warfare not a conspiracy >War on Terror being a sham also not a conspiracy >New Zealand Doesn't Exist neither does Ohio >Governments causing natural disasters (HAARP, programmed earthquakes) Look up weather modification device development China lake weapons facility >Government surveillance also not a conspiracy >(S)elected officials >Transgenics >The US government created the internet not entirely false >False Flags happens all the time >Media corruption yes >Priory of Sion >Universal currency tried, but people have a tendancy to replace imaginary value with other imaginary value >Aliens being fake not going to comment on this one >FEMA camps not false, but also a little overhyped... it's more incompetent officials than lurking demon worshiping politicians >RX-84 >Money runs the show true >Corporations run the world true >Predictive programming true >The military industrial complex true

>>34842 >That soykaf falls down fast, collisions are going to average the velocities of objects which will generally speaking knock them out of orbit faster. That is accurate, the lower the orbit the more likely it is that space junk simply deorbits when its orbit is perturbed. But, having a ton of untracked crap in space still makes it pretty risky to put anything up, and that soykaf costs *a lot* of money. Nobody's gonna take that risk for years after a major kessler-type event. >One point to remember is that most of the moving image material is television data not film. Indeed, but there are published high-quality transfers of actual film from subsequent moon landings besides apollo 11. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd2oyT6etsQ >There's a lot of things that could go wrong which ostensibly Apollo demonstrated weren't problems, but if these are major problems Apollo would have been exceedingly difficult to do. From an engineering standpoint, sure. But the cost of the test missions (remember there were several manned tests before apollo 11), or even the overall program, wouldn't have changed substantially. Why go through that effort then? Why perform more fake missions, increasing the likelihood of leaks? Why provide so much footage that could have flaws? >What if the micrometeor threat outside of immediate earth vicinity is actually bad ? Then the radio telescopes on the far side of the moon would not work.

>>34842 dont call me buddy, pal >end of space travel as we know it for ever/centuries or decades at least why didnt you say that in the beginning? >making LEO totally inaccessible for even a few years, I don't think so. the destruction of satellites would set civilization back to 1950s level of technology not even mentioning that anyone who doesnt have a few months of food supply would be SOL >That soykaf falls down fast, collisions are going to average the velocities of objects which will generally speaking knock them out of orbit faster a little too optimistic, look at jupiters rings the same principle would apply

>>34845 satellites aren't that essential. We have plenty of cables all over the place and very few actually-essential things (electricity, running water, even the internet) depend on satellites.

>>34846 communication is always essential, lainon. were centralization not a thing id agree

>>34847 100% of the communication satellites in use are heavily locked down and run by centralized corporations and/or governments, and they don't contribute substantially to the internet backbone (vast majority of hops your IP packets go through never touch a satellite)

>>34848 you seem to be reaching a bit there, just look at china

>>34694 Some things people have confided to me: >Delta force murdered civilians while training New Zealand's SASR Sabre Squadron in I believe California. Training accidents happen. Actual killing on US soil often have ulterior motives and border on vigilantism or criminal mischief. The US used to have the "school of the Americas" that trained a bunch of goons for dictators >The UN exterminated villages of people (also raped women and children) on behalf of engineering company ECL Contracting along the border of Egypt and Sudan on the Nile River while work was being done on a hydroelectric dam. Africans gonna African. The UN used to use africans as blue helmets, sometimes did not go so well... >The US military has a secret highly realistic urban training ground. Corpses are used for target practice to desensitize trainees. The corpses are supposedly dead servicemen, organ donors. There is a whole unit that larps as terrorists in a city so the other troops can pretend war. The FBI also has a fake town. The dead service members thing is unbelievable, would be too many bodies, but there used to be a "live tissue school" that got a lot of flak from the public. There's actually a whole industry of lifelike targets because if it. On the other hand, the post 9/11 SEALS are notoriously psychopaths and sadists who canoe peoples skulls for fun. The Soviets on the other hand used inmates (live) as targets for spook training. >Heard rumors of a secret American military organization that specializes in underground operations. This was IIrc a DARPA project/future warfare program, there were posts about it here on lainchan 3-5 ish years ago. It wasn't classified, but actually really cyberpunk. Here is some other stuff: Terrance Yeakey assassinated to cover up government involvement in Oklahoma City bombing. Kenneth Trentadue murdered in FBI interrogation, he was mistaken for an Oklahoma City bombing perpetrator, was secretly detained and interrogated by the feds and they tortured him to death. Timothy McVeigh was never put to death. Kevin Ives and Don Henry were murdered in order to conceal a drug running operation being conducted in Mena, Arkansas, Bill Clinton was involved in the operation. Barry Seal Delta Force sabotaged Seattle WTC protest Assassination of Michael Hastings CIA remotely hijack cars, planes and helicopters US government can make military bases 1.5+ miles underground Scientists can simulate alien abductions I don't know if you know any real spooks, but most of your post could have been deduced from publicly available information and 15 minutes of google.

>>34850 >Africans gonna African. The UN used to use africans as blue helmets, sometimes did not go so well... dont be racist >On the other hand, the post 9/11 SEALS are notoriously psychopaths and sadists who canoe peoples skulls for fun. explain pls >Delta Force sabotaged Seattle WTC protest how i dont get

>>34849 come on, say what you mean. What about china has to do with communication satellites?

>>34851 >Africans gonna African. The UN used to use africans as blue helmets, sometimes did not go so well... dont be racist Countless African UN peacekeepers have gotten in trouble for rape and other crimes. These members were poorly paid and regulated to represent the international community. >On the other hand, the post 9/11 SEALS are notoriously psychopaths and sadists who canoe peoples skulls for fun. >explain pls After the US began the war on terror, SEAL teams went from being specialized skilled navy divers/combat swimmers to glorified hit squads. Team 6 being the worst offender, this isn't some conspiracy. There have even been Seals tried for war crimes, iirc trump pardoned one. Others had recorded incidents of scalping arabs for the memes. >Delta Force sabotaged Seattle WTC protest how i dont get >Believe it or not, there are usually spooks everywhere, twitter tends to point them out quite frequently. Not really sure what the OP was trying to say tho.

>>33946 im stating them here and now: jews control the banks and most of western civilization covid is a bio weapon and thats it really

>>34853 >Believe it or not, there are usually spooks everywhere, huh thanks did remember some guys in all black getting memed up(even one with an umbrella lol) since they obviously were just doing their own thing >These members were poorly paid and regulated to represent the international community. they sound like americans to me. source: i live with them >There have even been Seals tried for war crimes, iirc trump pardoned one sounds about right

>>34854 would you like some sprinkles with your vanilla, lainon?

>>34852 >they don't contribute substantially to the internet backbone thats just not accurate

>>34845 >why didnt you say that in the beginning? sorry for confusion its just what I see most often when I see people talking about kessler, brosef. >destruction of satellites would set civilization back to 1950s level of technology it would be disruptive for sure, decade based terminology is flawed for this sort of discussion though. >look at jupiters rings the same principle would apply the main ring over jupiters orbit is like 50 megameters over the planet. Analogies between Earth and Jupiter are a bit rough but this is definitly not low Jovian orbit, and definitly not all of whatever orbit it is. Earth could have a debris ring and spacetravel would be impacted but not eliminated. >>34844 >Nobody's gonna take that risk for years after a major kessler-type event. possible, but the first military to restore its spy sat network could stand to be at some advantage, its not all fun and games in outerspace, afterall. >From an engineering standpoint, sure. But the cost of the test missions yeah I guess I'd tend to assume much of these would likely be faked, as well, if the manned landings are faked. If you can do i.e. Apollo 8, why not 11 ? You're IDK, 80% of the way there ? Maybe more ? If you're worried about risk of catastrophe no reason to go all the way to lunar orbit but draw the line above the surface. Maybe they did IDK, surveyor and the Apollo over Earth missions and called that good enough. All of these missions, and why not one step farther ? On the other hand, why not one step farther past Apollo XVII? >other missions disprove some of these possible worries yeah yeah, and its a bit of a stretch I feel to assume that all space soykaf is bull soykafe. Awful lot of people involved for an awful long time, among other things. Awful lot of geologists/other science types working on Apollo, its not just the public you have to fool. I've met some of these people, many are fairly smart, put a lot of thought and effort into their work. Doubtful they're fake, doubtful their fully decieved imho. >video prrty >>34848 >100% of the communication satellites in use are heavily locked down and run by centralized corporations and/or government FALSE! Check out for instance amsat.org

>>34857 Can you name a level 3 link that routes through comm satellite? Cables are faster, more efficient, and cheaper than satellites. The internet overall would be fine if not a single satellite existed, there would just be some people in the middle of nowhere that couldn't access it. >>34858 >possible, but the first military to restore its spy sat network could stand to be at some advantage This is true. >yeah I guess I'd tend to assume much of these would likely be faked, as well, if the manned landings are faked. But faking the entire thing is very expensive. You have to build and launch multiple big ass rockets and get them into orbit (so they don't come crashing down thirty minutes after launch), at the very least. Unless there's something that makes it *impossible* for humans to leave low earth orbit, I don't think there's any reason not to at least try for a manned landing if you're already doing all that work. >If you're worried about risk of catastrophe no reason to go all the way to lunar orbit but draw the line above the surface Eh, it's a lot easier to limp back home if you don't land. >amsat.org schway

>>34858 yes there is 2 in america, 1 in china, and 1 shared by members of the 5 eyes alliance "the west"

>>34850 >Africans gonna African. The UN used to use africans as blue helmets, sometimes did not go so well... The guy who told me about it mentioned he befriended an indian who was with the UN who told him part of what happened. You will chalk it up to third worlders being third worlders. It wasn't just africans bein africans the villages were problematic for workers so they got wiped out. That doesn't make it right, you have the UN and some engineering contractor pillaging towns to get them out of the way for a project and covering it up afterwards. You can just leave it at that. >Training accidents happen. I know training accidents happen. A training accident is a far cry from whatever the fuarrrk went down though. I don't remember everything about this one, but from what I can recall what happened was a guy had went off with his team to train with Delta Force in the states, I think I heard it was in California. Something fuarrrked up happened relating to wetwork. The guy who witnessed it had a mental downspiral after whatever he took part in and soon returned to civilian life, he was a fat alcoholic at the time of me hearing about it. >The dead service members thing is unbelievable, would be too many bodies, but there used to be a "live tissue school" that got a lot of flak from the public. It doesn't seem too far fetched to me, the bodies aren't stolen they are donated, granted donors aren't aware of what their corpse will be used for. Regardless it will remain unbelievable to you as you are not me, I'm just some user on the internet recounting things I've been told from people who have no incentive to lie. I know the other stuff isn't secretive. I never said it was, I literally just said here is some other (conspiratorial) stuff. There are other people posting similar things.

>>34727 Tolkenization. Internet of Rings. ORC cities. 19 and 1.

>>34861 >It doesn't seem too far fetched to me it also important note the type of people joining the military i.e destitute types like former foster children, people with records, immigrants who want citizenship and people from generally poor backgrounds(whose contacts are unlikely/unable to get anywhere when comes finding answers on the whereabouts of the body).

>>34697 My family lived in NYC prior to the cold war. can confirm it existed. This is a case of correlation, not causation. The city expanded rapidly because immigration and finance. WTC were there because NYC was a hub of world trade, not because the construction of a city was based on a future terrorist attack. Everyone also forgets the failed WTC bombing. >>34863 Not in the first world. There is a whole conspiracy about the "Suicides" that happen, but a lot of those pertain to rape/criminal activity. Gangs in the military are huge, but the government pushes it under the rug because it looks bad on their image. It's not an organized effort to make troops better killers, it's corrupt troops keeping people quiet. The real conspiracy is how many AWOL troops are regularly killed by their fellow troops. It isn't hard to find troops being afraid of getting certain base assignments because of the known criminal activity there (forced prostitution, gangs, drugs, weapons, working with cartels, supremacist movements, stealing military equipment for the black market). There are a lot of issues relating to the use of bodies, specifically the paperwork nightmare of a service member dying and disposition of remains. There would have to be a lot of bodies donated which just isn't the case. there is also no benefit to testing weapons on bodies when it can be done on ballistics dummies or animals. >>34802 There's a lot more to that area. Interesting to see lains talk about it. It isn't just any military base, that base is stated to be there for "repairing vehicles" but there is also a lot of research for dozens of government agencies that takes place in that area, not to mention all of the weapons ranges out there in the desert (aircraft and tank ranges). Its isolated which also makes it good for space research, but I think you can connect the dots.

>>34839 >>34839 When the American flag Is being placed, it moved exactly the way it would if a gust of wind Ran trough it AND the lighthing Many times was inconsistent with the amount of sunlight found on the moon, plus there's that capsule thing i mentioned.

>>34865 Everyone knows weird soykaf happens in the Mojave, and everyone knows the military and CIA are really active there.