THE MOST DELETED VIDEO ON THE INTERNET!!! BECAUSE THIS DOCTOR TOLD THE TRUTH!!!

THE MOST DELETED VIDEO ON THE INTERNET!!! BECAUSE THIS DOCTOR TOLD THE TRUTH!!! A man who described himself as “Dr. Sean Brooks, PhD, Oxford,” gave a series of incendiary statements about COVID-19 vaccines at an Ohio school board meeting IN EARLY 2021. Video clips of Brooks talking at the meeting have been shared widely on social media and elsewhere on the internet by anti-vaccine advocates. He told parents and board members that people who take the vaccine will end up dead and sterile. All cause mortality has skyrocketed around the world, many countries witnessing nearly a 20% increase leaving doctors 'baffled' of course. In Europe, statistics provided by EuroMOMO, a European mortality monitoring organization, show that there have been more excess deaths recorded in 2022 than in 2020 and 2021, and that the greatest increase in deaths has occurred in children and young people. https://www.bitchute.com/video/fH98jZa9uZ20/

OP, there is nothing unique about this guy. Lots of people (doctors as well as people outside the medical "profession") called it day one, and got censored. We don't yet know how bad the vaccine death rate is going to be. That's one of the many scary things about it. It's already extremely bad, and even more people are going to be disabled, have a shortened lifespan, and as mentioned in OP, be sterilized. But we can only guess about the long term effects. One thing they apparently do is give people extremely rapid cancers. So look out for the cancer death rate going up as well (which the government will of course try to blame on something else). On the other hand, there are reasons to be hopeful. Of course billions of people refused the shots. Some people got fake papers. Funnily, the quality control on the shots has been so bad that many people who got the shots accidentally got saline shots with nothing harmful in them. And of course, some percent of the population is just going to be resilient against the poison, kind of like a grandma who lived over 80 years while smoking and drinking whiskey every day. I'm curious what other Lainons think about this topic. I noticed there are no other threads about the poison shots on /mega/. Is it being censored here, or is it just that nobody was motivated to make a thread? I guess we'll see if the mods remove this.

I fuarrrking wish it made me sterile, my ex made a hole in the condom and now I have to pay child support.

we did have an alright corona thread going for a while there but I suspect it just got bumped down till it fell off the board. I think we had a fairly decent discussion going but a lot of it was maybe a little early for vax effects discussion and iirc it basically stoped when the ukraine war heated up again. this vid looks like pretty old news, basically everyone whos gonna get vaxxed is vaxxed and there's not much point evangelizing to them, just about everyone else is convinced not to. Those of us who havent had our ears stuffed with cotton and our heads in the sand have been exposed to both sides of this whole debacle for the last several years. idk op, is there anything interesting or novel about this that I haven't have read already in, like, 2021 when this came out, and since then whatching the widely discussed excess death/clotting/sudden adult death syndrome soykaf ?

>>33521 lmao gadeem maybe its not your kid ever think of that lol

>In Europe, statistics provided by EuroMOMO, a European mortality monitoring organization, show that there have been more excess deaths recorded in 2022 than in 2020 and 2021, and that the greatest increase in deaths has occurred in children and young people. KYS

i took multiple doses regardless of how i felt about it or how much i trusted for the safety of my dad with cance, im not ganna put him in danger for me being paranoid about something. i just hope it doesnt kill me in the long run, fuarrrk these global leaders

>>33518 Seems like basic fearmongering, but what's done is done. No need to cry over a spilled milk at this point. Besides, a worldwide reduction in population is exactly what we need right now, so all the more power to corona-caused mass deaths.

we had 2 studies posted here when it was a hot topic 1. cardiac issues because it goes straight into blood stream the way they do it 2. protein prevents dna repair =cancer both are nor pretty much confirmed by stats showing a spike in both. There were a bunch of us military doctors ringing alarm as well as insurance corps who simply had an issue losing money due to this since their models didn't cover such a spike.

>>33536 Yeah, it's over, all of us who wanted the vaccine got it years ago. If you all want to gloat and celebrate if we start dropping like flies go ahead, but until it actually happens there isn't much worth talking about. Maybe estimate how many more years it's going to take? I feel fine so far and never got covid. Probably most unvaccinated people have gotten it and thus have some level of resistance by now, so there isn't any longer an imminent public health reason to try to press them to be vaccinated. I guess immunocompromised people will never be safe though, and we're going to go through this culture war bullshit all over again when the next pandemic hits.

>>33518 You people move the fuarrrking date when we're all supposed to start dropping dead every time we get close to it and we're miraculously not dropping dead in the streets. It was 2021, then mid 2022, then before Christmas, when is it now, sometime 2040-2080, with the evil vaccime taking older people first? Where's the obsessive retard that was posting VAERS logs of 99 year olds with laundry lists of comorbidities dying within 4 weeks post vaccine like that proved anything? I miss taunting him

>>33536 > No need to cry over a spilled milk at this point still, while the milk may be already spilt it seems like maybe there are some criminals around involved with spilling it who should be punished. Even if the vaccines are fine the government pandemic response in my country was litterally criminal and I should like to see a few politicians and administrators on lamp posts.....this hasnt happened yet and I am becomming disappointed.

>hospitals overrun because of anti maskers and antivaxxers >all cause mortality goes up from lack of hospital care >be antivaxxer conspiratard >"whaaaa how could this happen must be duh vaxx" Seriously people that keep bringing this up repeatedly show they dont know what they are talking about. They keep calling it "the vaccine" even though there is two different kinds of vaccines and a third one im not sure if it was released yet that was just same as old vaccines. There are some concerns with certain vaccines but i rarely ever see those problems brought up by these types only sensationalist bullshit that shows they dont even have a clue how the immune system works or how vaccines in general work. It's just old and tiring and boring to put effort into correcting everyone all the time when they make mistakes. Take your meds Lains.

>>33543 >take your meds Lains. you can take my meds and shove them up your dialated pinko ass, glitterboy.

>>33540 >>33541 Ive given up hope on enough vaxxers dropping dead to cause a change in the world, im glad theyre dead but not nearly enough of them die. Even if people dropped dead in the streets, do you think anyone would even notice, hell no everyone stares in their phones all day long reading stupid bullshit. In fact i think this was a tactic all along to stir up more drama, everyone knows the stastics are rigged, but we dont know how and to what ends, or even the effects thereof. This makes me wonder if the german lawyer and his 1000 co-suers got anywhere at all. At this point i wonder if anything at all will happen, i mean all the man has to do to win is to keep up their dirty games. Everyone is talking and nobody is doing anything, meanwhile the daily insanity, that makes all the covid drama pale in comparsion, keeps going on and everyone is sliding along nicely towards the technocratic enslavement that they keep building up. Those of us who watched this all happen had hoped to see some consequences, but i see now that the people are equally or more corrupt and illogical than their governments and that the face of the enemy can be seen on the streets and in fact always was the real enemy. Those who suffer of the vax are not victims, they are collaborators who want to excuse themselfs from having caused all this bullshit by blindly obeying. Truth is those that have orchastrated all this have done us a huge favor, they not only drew out the traitors, collaborators and cowards but made sure they will be decimated too. The entirety of the situation is unresolable on way or the other and the whole consequences, if they come out that is, will be so damning i think it will be impossible to ever find any solution, it cannot be burried this time, its too big.

>>33543 it was all the same rna soykaf instead of old regular vaccs that were roadblocked... seriously clueless. They had to prohibit regular solutions to get a special permit for their trash cause "there was no alternative".

The largest risk is that of the spike proteins yielded by the mRNA causing prion diseases. The risk is unknowable, it is not high, nor low. I have been bitching about this threat for years on imageboards and nobody ever listens to me. My interest in the risk has dwindled with time. If even a small percentage of the COVID vaccinated were to develop prion diseases, a pandemonium would unravel, the likes of which have never been seen before. Countless people would die, and there could be nothing done and nothing can EVER be done to save them. Prion diseases are and will always be incurable aiding to the mechanics behind their manifestation and the properties of the proteins at hand. Here is some bullshit off my memory. Spike proteins can promote the aggregation of amyloidogenic proteins in the body. They can act as a seed protein that other proteins can bind to initiating an abnormal aggregation of proteins within some parts of the body. Amyloidosis of the brain, kidneys, and heart has been observed through autopsy conducted on deceased COVID infected and vaccinated individuals, although there hasn't been any information which could allow me to determine when and what initiated the amyloidosis. If some vaccinated individuals' bodies do not cease to produce spike proteins they could experience an aggregation of spike proteins. Over a year ago, probably nearing two, a covid vaccine tester died after experiencing an abrupt rapid cognitive decline reminiscent of Alzheimer's, indubitably a prion disease, they were dead within months. If there is to be an emergence of prion diseases caused by COVID vaccines it will be around 10 years after the intial release of the vaccines, so there is still plenty of time remaining, that is not to say some people would not develop illnesses before that time, some few people would. Later on I learned about the SPARS Pandemic Scenario which concerns this exact scenario, a mass outbreak of prion diseases, I believe caused by the treatment of another disease. Don't worry though, it's probably nothing :)

>>33556 Even if you are right just as you say - its not like you can do anything about it so why bother worrying? Stress merely harms you for no gain. The only real takeaway i would add is making sure you dont get rna vaccs for common other diseases. They used covid to get rna into the market and its cheaper to produce = higher profits. I bet they will try to expand it to other diseases to increase profits. So gotta be careful in that regard for the future.

>>33557 if I understand all correctly then the spike protein bit is not intrinsic to the mrna vaccine concept but rather its part of corona; a hypothetical rabies mrna vaccine would have no reason to have it. also why would you want to get vaccinated for something. r u a cow?

>>33558 The whole process is less save and relies on creating a custom virus which is required to inject the mrna into your cells. Add relying on nobody messing up the injected sequence and protein folding not creating something unwanted. The whole process is an absolute dirty yolo job while having $.$ in their eyes. As for regular vaccination- done right its save af in contrast because you aint injecting anything into your cells. You aint even injecting parts of the disease with some cases, they merely inject you parts of the poison the bacteria produces so you can fight it and dont flatline so you still get sick but it doesnt do soykaf against you cause you already prepped. Last point is the additives they use to prolong shelf life are also questionable in terms of negative side effects. Vaccination as intended by the original inventor is a fuarrrking amazing idea. Profit seeking is merely destroying good intentions just as many other things.

>>33559 >Vaccination as intended by the original inventor is a fuarrrking amazing idea. vaccination as intended by the original inventor involves poking holes into peoples skin and infecting them with live and contagious virus grown in living animals. People were killed by the vaccine virus after contracting it through contact with the vaccinated (of course some died from the vaccine they took, too). Smallpox seems like an awful disease and its eradication is most likely a good thing. Vaccination probably had a hand in that. But it has never been a perfect and clean solution. One considers how many may die of the disease, how many of the cure...

>>33561 In our corporate capitalist hellscape it's good to exhibit skepticism, but dude, are you daft? Vaccination didn't "*probably* have a hand" in eradicating smallpox. Because it most definitely *did* do that with the help of proper crowd control protocols, and to downplay the role which vaccination has had in all this is plainly moronic. Sure, no vaccine (let alone ANY medical practice or cure up to this point) has been a "perfect and clean solution", because that would imply either a simplicity of the system we're trying to cure or almost a superhuman understanding of the cellular world and all the hundreds of things that could go wrong with it. Why else do you think we school our doctors for 10+ years before they get their licensing? And even in the face of all this, in their statistical research they demand around 95-99,9% confidence interval in order for a new cure to be considered "legit". You can criticize COVID vaccines and the way it was dealt all you want (which, let's be real, mostly came down to WHO basically turning into a gimp for China, rushed research and vaccine development, unusual symptoms displayed by the infected and good old political tribalism), but to extend such criticism in order to undermine the whole vaccination endeavour is plainly asinine, since we clearly have the numbers to confirm that vaccines CAN be an effective part of the solution, if executed properly - even IF there were casualties to all the vaccine developments of history. Give credit where credit is due; only after that can we have a proper conversation grounded on reality.

>Militaries vaccinating all of their soldiers It's unrealistic to think the vaccines would overtly kill anyone. This could be a sterilization campaign, and it could have a percentage mortality, but the entire US military and every single employee working for the federal government is vaccinated. So is it a conspiracy or not? >inb4 you don't know they're actually vaccinated Actually I do. >It's a conspiracy to wipe out every military at the same time! Grasping at straws. 60 Minutes opened the other day, "What year will the human population become too large for earth to sustain? 1970." Lots of people are going to start dying very soon, but it's not going to be the vaccines. I'm legitimately against vaccines and even suffered a rare auto-immune related syncope from a doubled up MMR/Tetanus vaccine - They're supposed to wait two weeks because they contain the same immune response agonist(light poisoning). It resolved and was no longer an issue after 4 years. So I'm against vaccines. I completely understand the risks at every level, and was willingly vaccinated by the military knowing it might injure me, with clear examples of that literally right in front of me in the form of trainees being discharged because the vaccine damaged their hearts. There was special forces candidates there that refused it because they were scared. What a joke.

>>33563 This is what I think. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I just don't trust the government and big pharma. But it makes no sense for the government to inject it's own military with poison. If only. History has virtually stopped and things have gotten boring, and I don't have faith in the path humanity has chosen.

>>33563 not every employee. The the health institution who told you its a good idea were exempt from it. Let me repeat: the people who had the most expertise were exempt from following their own given advice. Theres also a very simple argument why you want to advice to take it while avoiding it yourself- you benefit from herd immunity without risking enduring side effects yourself. Its not your problem if someone else dies, its only a problem that they might infect you so better tell them to take it.

>>33563 >but the entire US military and every single employee working for the federal government is vaccinated. So is it a conspiracy or not? patently false but spiritually mostly true. also you can have insanity/incompotence. conspiracies start to look a lot more plausible when you realize that a lot of people are dumb syncophants, and that there are different factions some of which are litterally insane but still hold power. US government doesn't move as one, and once they start moving one direction it takes a lot of power to make em stop. >There was special forces candidates there that refused it if they're serious candidates then they're pretty valuble and probably already massive investments, can't say it wasnt a reasonable possibility that they'd be given a pass, even if they didn't ultimately get it. >>33565 >Its not your problem if someone else dies, you still benefit from (gnu)hurd immunity this is assuming a several unreasonable things, first that the vaccine actually works to induce immunity, second that the vaccination campaign doesn't spawn potentially worse variants or diseases otherwise, third that if others die it isnt enough people to cause significant societal effects, and fourth that the vaccine itself doesn't cause direct dangers to people who may or may not have taken the vaccine.

>>33566 >this is assuming a several unreasonable things you are right regarding the assumptions but i would contest that many would see those assumptions as unreasonable. there are also other simple reasons to convince yourself its a good idea like peer pressure and the desire to keep your job. There were simple experiments in medical field like putting a real doctor with a bunch of actors in a room to test whether he would speak out against obvious false diagnosis - most didn't.

>>33566 all those things you listed as "unreasonable" sound perfectly reasonable, in the sense that a reasonable person could believe them. OP is blatant fearmongering retardation, some con man is fishing for clicks.

>>33567 > i would contest that many would see those assumptions as unreasonable. my point is just that the worst vaccine situation can be far worse than no vaccine at all, and the dangers are not confined to those who directly get vaccinated. A successful vaccine is dependant on a number of things going right, and quite a few things not going wrong. maybe surrounded by peer pressure people will consider them not reasonable fears, but thats beside the point.

>>33541 you won't be laughing when 60 years from now all the young people who got the vaccine suddenly start dropping dead from "heart disease" and "stroke", will ya? sometimes I wish either one of the retard schizo narratives ("CHINA IS HIDING THE BODIES" or "COVID IS FAKE AND THEY'RE STERILIZING US") would have actually played out, at least that would've been exciting compared to the big nothing we got instead

>>33536 >No need to cry over a spilled milk at this point The WEF is stealth massacring people, including many of our family and community members. If you have any honor, you have to demand justice and seek revenge for that. >a worldwide reduction in population is exactly what we need right now Where'd you learn that, from Disney Marvel's Avengers? This Malthusian crap is absolute nonsense and is being pushed by the WEF because they want just two things: 1. A small population of slaves 2. Everyone else dead

>>33540 >>33541 You can look up your vaccine lot number in datasets like V-Safe and VAERS. If you're fine right now, there's a good chance you just didn't receive one of the poisoned lots. It may have even been saline. Still, I'd get routine heart and blood checkups, and look out for cancers if I were you. >>33563 >>Militaries vaccinating all of their soldiers >It's unrealistic to think the vaccines would overtly kill anyone. This could be a sterilization campaign, and it could have a percentage mortality, but the entire US military and every single employee working for the federal government is vaccinated. So is it a conspiracy or not? Anon, they are trying to automate everyone's jobs away, including the military. The intent is to replace a huge portion of the US military with robots, and this process is already underway. So killing off or disabling a large portion of the military makes perfect sense in that regard. Still, they could easily have just given soldiers the saline shot, or targeted the poison at military branches they plan to downsize. Similar story with all of your bureaucrats and government desk jockeys. And "elite" universities mandating jabs. ChatGPT is just the beginning of the end of all of these clerk/professional middle class jobs that everyone thought would get them in the good graces of the regime. Their jobs are going to be eliminated, so the government is culling them.

>>33578 >The WEF is stealth massacring people That tea club for rich people where they can barely manage to rub two sticks together for their "grand initiatives"? You must be joking. >Where'd you learn that, from Disney Marvel's Avengers? From the Illuminati, actually. They teach that the population of humanity would be at a sustainable optimal at around the 500 million people mark (it was also inscribed into the American Stonehenge, before some nutjob decided to blow it up, but of course nobody listens to reason, when they could instead lose their minds over satanic cabals and da evil joos...). >This Malthusian crap is absolute nonesense Malthus and economics have nothing to do with it. It's all about thermodynamics. See: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1508353112 >because they want just two things Well, there's a simple solution to counter said scenario: 1. eat the rich 2. stop consooooooooming

>>33580 >the American Stonehenge, before some nutjob decided to blow it up excuse me but the american stonehenge is alive and well and I dont think it says anything about 500m >consoom thangs >also stop consooming cant have both buddy also the energy problems would be a lot less severe if people werent so prejudiced against nukes.

>>33581 I think it's officially called the "Georgia Guidestones", but they've also gone under the name of American Stonehenge. can't see why not even nukes aren't immune to the laws of thermo

>>33580 >they can barely manage to rub two sticks together for their "grand initiatives So how the fuarrrk did they manage to force and coerce 2/3rds of the planet to inject poison into their veins if they're so incompetent??? If they're so retarded and incompetent, why haven't we all managed to overthrow them yet? Why do their members collectively OWN the planet?

>>33583 >So how the fuarrrk did they manage to force and coerce 2/3rds of the planet to inject poison into their veins if they're so incompetent??? If we accept that they are incompetent, then the obvious answer is that they are not responsible for vaccination campaigns.

>>33583 >So how the fuarrrk did they manage to force and coerce 2/3rds of the planet to inject poison into their veins if they're so incompetent??? See: >>33584 >If they're so retarded and incompetent, why haven't we all managed to overthrow them yet? It's too much bother. Eating the rich would basically come to down to a complete system reset, which would fuarrrk up everyone's daily lives. Haven't you seen Mr.Robot? Besides, with no realistic alternatives to supplant the current regime, the mental calculation everyone's running is that what we currently have is the best we can do, and giving up "the best situation" for an insecure future would be stupid. >Why do their members collectively OWN the planet? You have your causal relations all backwards. Having a membership in WEF is not the reason why they are rich. They are members because they accrued a considerable level of wealth. As for answering the deeper issue of "why [or how] did this state of affairs [them becoming rich] came to be?", I think we'd have to examine each member's case separately.

>>33584 >If we accept that they are incompetent, then the obvious answer is that they are not responsible for vaccination campaigns. You are delusional if you think the vax campaigns were not coordinated by the WEF and the entire "stakeholder captialism" global system including the WHO, Gates Foundation, DOD, DHS, Silicon Valley, etc. >>33585 >It's too much bother. Eating the rich would basically come to down to a complete system reset, which would fuarrrk up everyone's daily lives But the rich are doing this anyway. They're deliberately blowing the existing system of capitalism up to replace it with digital slavery. If they've managed to make it appear like doing nothing to stop them is less of a hassle than going along with our own extermination and enslavement, then that's in and of itself evidence that the global capitalist elite are competent. >Having a membership in WEF is not the reason why they are rich I never argued that it is. Being in the WEF is not the reason why the global ruling class is rich, but it is part of their praxis to REPRODUCE and EXPAND their ownership of everything.

>>33586 >You are delusional if you think the vax campaigns were not coordinated by the WEF and the entire "stakeholder captialism" global system including the WHO, Gates Foundation, DOD, DHS, Silicon Valley, etc. You have named several different organizations and an entire region that houses some 10 million people. In any case, your logic is circular: you believe they are competent, because otherwise they couldn't have done the things you believe that they did. You believe they did these things because you believe they are competent and self-interested enough to do them. Please let me know where I have gone wrong here.

I think you both make a false assumption on "coordination is necessary". Is every water droplet conscious? no. The river still flows the best path. Big movements happen cause a lot of small things pull organically in the same direction. Market forces act on people same way as gravity steers the water into a river. Example: if im price hiking im intrinsically working together with every other price hiker trying to ramp up the price against people trying to buy cheap. If you ask me if some other price is fair i will say yes but i can offer a bit cheaper while actually taking 3x original value cause i expect the price to drop and the 3.5x dude to be left bags holding before we can both sell at x3.5. So im lying to cover for him cause it helps me. Is it a conspiracy? no. Same is valid for rona - everyone who made money would assure you everything is valid to secure their own income. There was so much money to be made unregulated its unbelievable. They even paid labs that didnt exist for testing kits because nobody verified them since questioning was taboo. And you better wear those masks when i got mask stocks that need to moon. You better believe i will tell you rona is serious and you need to take care when I'm getting profit from it. The most hilarious soykaf i've seen is old hospital owner positioned himself on social media as a "vaccination influencer" to advance his career further. 60 year old dude trying to be hip with the kids to make more bucks. Who needs drug selling when you got vacc?

>>33587 Your mistake is thinking that it's worthwhile to debate a schizo on an imageboard. The loudest voice will win here and it will not be yours.

>>33589 Nah, I come on lainchan for the quality discussions, and I don't think I'm the only one.

>>33587 You are a pseud who keeps trying to accuse me of saying things I never said. >You believe they did these things because you believe they are competent and self-interested enough to do them There is absolutely nowhere I stated or implied this. Stop lying.

>>33588 >Same is valid for rona - everyone who made money would assure you everything is valid to secure their own income. There was so much money to be made unregulated its unbelievable. They even paid labs that didnt exist for testing kits because nobody verified them since questioning was taboo. And you better wear those masks when i got mask stocks that need to moon. You better believe i will tell you rona is serious and you need to take care when I'm getting profit from it. The most hilarious soykaf i've seen is old hospital owner positioned himself on social media as a "vaccination influencer" to advance his career further. 60 year old dude trying to be hip with the kids to make more bucks. Who needs drug selling when you got vacc? It's true that one of the big motivations and enablers for the poison vax rollout was profit. Profit incentives made it very easy to get MSM (via advertising), hospitals (via the payouts for ventilators, vaccines, etc), social media (FBI literally paying twitter and other corpos to censor) and many other industries to comply. However, just because there is a rational economic interest to act a certain way, doesn't mean that precludes organization. In fact, it actually makes organization and conspiracy more likely. For instance, if I'm a worker in a factory, it's in my economic interest to ask for higher wages. There's a chance I'll get the higher wages if I just ask (for example, if there's a tight job market). However, my chances of getting a raise, paid leave, benefits, and a pension go up dramatically if I organize with the other factory workers, both secretly and openly, to form a union and then engage in collective bargaining. On the other side of things, it's true that economic forces naturally lead to centralization of capital. However, this tendency actually increases the incentives that corpos have to consciously form and organize monopolies and cartels. When we talk about big pharma, big tech, and international finance, we are talking about the biggest cartels that have ever existed in history. And their actions perfectly match what you expect from a mafia. Intimidation, murder, deception, theft, extortion, etc. Just because the system incentivizes all this, doesn't mean that billionaires are just stumbling around like idiots, accidentally snatching up ever greater masses of global wealth through sheer coincidence. They have to consciously act to maintain their position.

while profit was definitly a motive I think its clear that there were/are a lot of corona true beleivers. True beleivers can be thought of as still profit motivated but they've got a pretty big negative infinity thrown into their predictions for what will happen if the pandemic isn't controlled, and will kill to keep that from happening. These people are also perfectly capable of cooperating and conspiring and have strong incentive to do so, as well as strong incentive to throw out all moral and ethical standards. They could kill you and construe it as being for your own benefit. Media tries hard to control and direct these people but it is like trying to direct a giant herd of animals. Possible to do if careful, but there are limits to what you can makd it do, and mistakes can be difficult to get back under control. Media is also full of these people itself which I think makes the problem more difficult, but well made sheepdogs are very effective. All of these beleivers may be being coordinated without coordinating themselves, but still someone is doing the coordinating.

>>33600 So, you think there are a bunch of people who genuinely believe there is/was a problem and mobilized resources to address it? What is so insidious about that?

The conspiritard point of view only makes sense if you view every other person as utter simpletons who have no complex life of their own. This is something I simply cannot accept. Therefore I cannot accept a story which relies on everyone in power being a shark and everyone else being spineless sheep. It's too simple, too neat. Reality is muddier.

>>33601 Its insidious if they were decieved into thinking this, and its unfortunate if these people were simply mistaken. Its clear at this point, and honestly it was clear in summer 2020 that the danger was rather less than what it had been cracked up to be, yet these people proceeded as though the danger was proven as bad as they had feared. Such a mass of people who can go on passionately beleiving obviously wrong things are quite dangerous, a powerfull weapon to people who can control them, and a threat to anyone who gets into their collective way. The mess of coronavirus was like a small shooting at a crowded stadium; a handfull of people got shot, but the far more dangerous element was not the shooter but the ensuing stampede. It is possible that the shooter fired the shot in order to use his more powerful weapon, that is the crowd. It is also possible that others in the crowd riled up and fanned the flames of the stampede, these are the insidious conspiratorial possibilities. The alternative is just unfortunate, but neither are good.

>>33602 I don't think most people are mindless sheep, you specifically are a mindless sheep though. Most people are """conspiratards""" like me. For example, most people think that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy, and not the work of a lone wolf shooter. Most people think that 9/11 was a conspiracy committed by some elements of the US government (or Israel, Saudi Arabia, or some combination). Almost everyone on earth believes that the invasion of Iraq was a conspiracy, based on lies about WMDs, for the sake of military and oil industry profits. And COVID conspiracy theories are incredibly mainstream and popular, for example the lab origin theory, flu misdiagnosis theory, vaccine injury theory, and so on. The overwhelming majority of westerners are no longer "up to date" on their COVID shots, meaning they are now refusing boosters because they don't believe the government and MSM who are telling them they need to stay boosted. The masses are not mindless sheep, but they often feel outgunned and powerless against the empire, and a significant part of the masses believes they can just play along with the program to have a moderately comfortable life. It's very difficult to organize against the vast apparatus of intelligence agencies, the military, and police. But eventually it all boils down to one thing-- liberty or death. Freedom or slavery. There's only so far you can push the masses before they retaliate, and when they do, everything changes.

>>33604 >I don't think most people are mindless sheep, you specifically are a mindless sheep though. Most people are """conspiratards""" like me. Your entire worldview espoused in this thread rests on the idea that everyone is easily manipulated by the media they consume, and that thousands of bureaucrats will follow through with whatever they are told to do without showing any spine. Sorry to say, but most people in the US are vaccinated and most people don't have a problem with that. Most people don't agree with you.

>>33605 actually, now that I think about it, I think that number is really in the millions, because you have to include every doctor who recommended shots to their patients.

I see this fairly often here on lainchan but just because there's a number of posts arguing the same general idea doesn't mean they're all by the same poster. We've definitly got at least two pro conspiratard posters in this thread even today, probably likewise for the memestream narrativists. Just because two posts are vaugely aligned on the main axis of the thread doesn't mean there the same poster please keep that in mind.

>>33605 >Your entire worldview espoused in this thread rests on the idea that everyone is easily manipulated by the media they consume, and that thousands of bureaucrats will follow through with whatever they are told to do without showing any spine. Funny how you can't refute anything I actually said, and you have to keep trying to put words in my mouth.

>>33608 Have you considered that maybe I simply don't care to? The OP is blatant clickbait, you and your compatriaytes haven't really made any claim other than "there is a conspiracy and everyone is behind it", and most of this thread is people arguing for the sake of arguing.

>>33609 Then why don't you go away and stop interjecting with your ignorance and reddit-tier philosophy?

>>33610 Because this facebook-teir BS is annoying and I'd like to post about that

>>33608 It's a lot easier to just spout absolute nonsense and lies than it is to refute them. You really expect people to be able/willing to refute JFK, 9/11, Iraq and COVID on what essentially comes down to a copy of a copy of a copy of a vietnamese basket-weaving forum? You give off the impression that there is some great master plan underway, when the simpler answer is that the higher ups try to keep things neatly under control, but somehow manage to fuarrrk up things even worse by making the people with each passing day more and more suspicious, distrustful of and pissed at them. Does that really sound to you like a "job well done", master plan working as it should and like the scenario of a world domination (who's to say it isn't already here, but only in a totally different disguise than what you seem to be insinuating) is soon imminent? Just by watching how the WEF goes about doing their public relations, I'd say they really have no clue what they are doing. Of course there are probably more malicious, more competent "satanic elites" out there doing their evil deeds, but why'd you think we'd know anything at all about them? As they say, "The Devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist." Perhaps all these things (JFK, 9/11, Iraq, COVID, da joos (regardless of your opinion on them)) are all just everyday noise and busy-body stuff - things to keep us busy wondering about what's going on and who's to blame, while the "real dealers" are going about behind our backs realizing their grander plans. What do you think about that?

>>33612 Its a lot easier to disprove most things than it is to prove things true. Its relatively easy for me to check if you're my neighbor, but its not very easy at all for me to prove who in the world you are. You can conceed that some fishy things seem to be going on without accepting some convoluted specific explanation involving lizardmen and massive coordination campaigns involving tens of millions of people knowing the full details of their conspiracy. The OP in this thread is obvious clickbait and a lot of claims about coronavirus/vaccines are obviously false. The vaccines obviously don't just kill people in a few weeks...months....years...idk, but they also obviously don't actually cause immunity, seems debateable whether they improve resistance, anything. Coronavirus itself is obviously not as drop-dead dangerous as it was feared it might have been, and I dont know about you but some of the lockdown/masking/vaxxing regulatory fervour went on a lot longer than any sane and benevolent government would have let it. There's a lot of these little things whence one would hope to derive an understanding of what happened and what is going on. Lotsa conspiratards trying to do it (lol and maybe some glowniggers, too), and throwing out a lot of chaffe, there's some plausible explanations but overall the whole thing is very confusing. Reasonable to be suspicious of people who claim certainty, whatever their allegiance is....

>>33612 More reddit. More trash reading comprehension. I really don't know what possesses wildly ignorant, narrow-minded people to come and post on an obscure imageboard dedicated to Serial Experiments Lain. Unless you are literally working in one of those paid government troll farms. SEL is one of the most wildly conspiratorial anime ever made. What exactly is it about SEL that would attract you to post here when you are so willfully and aggressively ignorant of anything that goes beyond your MSM narrative?

>>33614 Never been to reddit, but okay, maybe I do still have work to do on my reading comprehension, but would you please clarify, did you or did you not write in your previous post that >Most people are """conspiratards""" like me. (Basically addmitting that you as well subscribe to some conspiracy theories, and that) >most people... (that's including you by your own admission, since most people are """conspiratards""" just like you). >...think that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy [...] >Most people think that 9/11 was a conspiracy committed by some elements of the US government[...] >Almost everyone on earth believes that the invasion of Iraq was a conspiracy[...] >And COVID conspiracy theories are incredibly mainstream and popular[...] In case you admit writing this, but not intending on giving off the impression that you yourself would be a """conspiratards""", I do apologize for my hasty judgment. Nevertheless, I would suggest you in turn to practice your writings skills, since going in circles like this isn't exactly the most productive foundation for any kind of conversation. Additionally it would prove much to everyone's benefit if you were to point out what it is exactly that the person you're messaging at has gotten wrong, instead of just hauling (what I take to be) insults at them. Take a deep breath and let's take it at the top again and begin anew, shall we? By the way, what even is "MSM"? Methylsulfonylmethane, you mean? What even *is* the narrative in all that?

>>33616 not him but I can answer some things in my own way ahaha >Never been to reddit most impressive. >do you admit that you subscribe to some conspiracy theories sure, but lets be clear, conspiracy theory is a pretty broad term. If I think there were a bunch of commie sympathizers coordinating a lot of US policy during the WWII time frame I'm probably a conspiracy theorist, but I do think that because its right. If I think there's probably some cover up related to JFK or IX|XI (most americans I talk to about either of those seem to think so, especially IX|XI), then I'm a conspiracy theorist, but if I think there were no planes or airbourne weapons, and just holograms/TV composite shots then I'm a conspiretard. >What is MSM ? popular abbreviation for "MAIN STREAM MEDIA". CNN, FOX, NPR, NYTIMES, ATLANTIC these are among the MSM. >60 replies | 5 images | Page 1

I would never put that government poison in my veins, but my ex did. I have heard that prion disease can be spread by simple skin contact. Am I going to die in 10 years just like the rest of the vaxtards? I'm seriously worried about this.

>>33627 It's true, in fact the vaxx can also be spread in tiny particles in the air. It is known to cause a severe respiratory symptoms, although many of the vaxxed are asymptomatic. The rate of spreading is really out of control. It's generally safer to wear a mask in public and avoid coming into close contact with other humans, as they may be vaxxed without even knowing it.

>>33629 Well, I more or less never leave the house, but I'm probably fuarrrked now anyways right. You have to appreciate how thought-out this whole scheme was. As if aids wasnt enough to keep people from touching one another, now it will literally kill you without you being a sexual deviant.. I'm so done with living in this awful world anyways, so maybe death would be a blessing. I want to return to the pool of consciousness and get away from all this terrible malarkey.

>>33578 >No need to cry over a spilled milk at this point The WEF is stealth massacring people, including many of our family and community members. If you have any honor, you have to demand justice and seek revenge for that. You mean all those traitors among our midst who collaborated with the enemy when they were told to and that beilved simple stupid lies over using their own head. I should send klaus schwab a gift basket for drawing out all those trecherous cowradly scum, he did more to expose his own stoogie followers than anything else. The traitor vaxxors should be hung from the same trees as those WEF people who stole from the world and then gave a cut to those who went vaxing. If this all thought me anything then its that they all are traitros and collaboraters just like you who dont think the people did this out of greed and corruption and dont want to face it like you dont want to face that your family, friends, neighboors, community are traitors who have worked, payed and spoke out for the work of these assholes. >a worldwide reduction in population is exactly what we need right now Where'd you learn that, from Disney Marvel's Avengers? Not him but look around at all that useless human trash who just eats, fuarrrks, sleeps, wastes, plutes and is proud for doing so, they destroy everything they touch, what else can you do with that scum. >>33583 >So how the fuarrrk did they manage to force and coerce 2/3rds of the planet to inject poison into their veins if they're so incompetent??? They just wrote it in the newspaper thats it and people believied them, that is all that it took. >>33602 Im not gonna say too much, but take a look out the window, most people are smartphone controlled zombies run by simple algorithms, i dont think most of them have any life or thought of their own whatsoever. >>33603 Exactly this and this fact totally flies over peoples heads, it doesnt matter at all if there was a virus or vaxes work, the thing is they can pull this soykafshow off any time for any reason with or without proof and the people will do as they did. >>33604 >The masses are not mindless sheep, but they often feel outgunned and powerless against the empire, and a significant part of the masses believes they can just play along with the program to have a moderately comfortable life. It's very difficult to organize against the vast apparatus of intelligence agencies, the military, and police. But eventually it all boils down to one thing-- liberty or death. Freedom or slavery. There's only so far you can push the masses before they retaliate, and when they do, everything changes. They absolutely are totally mindless, if they had any slight mind of their own, none of this would ever have happened. The people will believe whatever is conviennt for them to believe and put in no effort at all into research and analysis. Most importantly most of them can be swayed with real simple generic propagandistic bullshit that has no sense. It would be enough if the people would stop working for their oppressors, or even say a word about it all. But people every day just keep going, getting payed off for doing their dirty masters bidding and even being happy for it, the masses collaborate, this is nothing less than treason what the people did. Clearly most have chosen death over freedom, whetever they know it or not and whetver they have reaons does not matter, what matter is what is happening. >>33627 Yes some time ago it had occured to me that there was no way of proving someone is unvaxed, even if they did not get shot up they might have had sex with someone who did. You may not die of it, but you will probably die of something else. Lets be honest here, were are just into year 3 of this whole thing, the fun has just begun and the aftermath will be imensse to clean, i dont think this can be solved. >>33629 A friend of mine who spent time around vaxxers complained about the sort of problems, its very real appearntly, it seems lots of peoples health went downhill even without the vax. >>33630 Same, it wont stop people from fuarrrking but it will kill them atleast. The elites think the are in control, the first question is what do they define control as and secondly is it even accurate? I dont think anyone has things under control, they all think they do, but once things slip its all over for them. Also i do think that there is a group above "the elites" who control them, either way with ai and the like taking center stage its a qustion of time until something takes them over. There is no elaborate conspiracy needed, all that was needed were simple plain lies. Future history may look back and whitewash it all in some way as people always do, but the truth is that all that it took for people to surrender their freedom, safety and prosperty and that of their friends and family was simple news headlines and other shallow nonesense. When the consequences show up and someone asks why they did this, the anwsers will be something like: "everyone else took it", "i wanted to go out again", "i needed my job". People have thrown out their own children out of the house for refusing to be part of a coercive, totalitarian, irrational herd driven maddness simply because mass media told them to. Kluas schwab has sold out, a stinking heap of useless eaters that wallow in their own soykaf and not try to do anything about it, in turn he got the world. The people have sold their own soul and everything else for a price as low as being able to go to the restaurant.

>>33629 >>33634 >spreads through the air I don't think the mRNA itself is spreading, but rather the spike protein. It's definitely caused me issues, most noticeably skin irritation and rashing. The main concern is the prion disease risk is likely much greater with the vax spike, as it is free floating as opposed to attached whole to a virus, and the prion-like structure is something found in the original and delta strains, not omicron. Also some of these free floating spikes can likely be unique mutants. Pfizer stated that approximately 70-75% of the mRNA retains its integrity by the time it typically enters the body. Considering the symptoms of being around vaxxed the production of spike proteins definitely decreases with time but from all evidence there isn't a point where it stops. Dr. Ryan Cole is finding in tact mRNA and spike proteins from original series vaxxed cadavers to this day.

>>33635 >thinking there was mRNA in those shots to begin with it's literally just a prion disease that they injected into us, which is now spreading through the air. Every vax is a scam but this one takes the cake.

>>33627 >>33629 The "vax shedding" fear mongering is just another ruling class divide-and-conquer narrative to make us all afraid of each other. Vaxxed and unvaxxed people need to work together to stop the ruling class criminals, not shun each other as filthy disease-spreaders.

>>33634 >I should send klaus schwab a gift basket >look around at all that useless human trash who just eats, fuarrrks, sleeps, wastes, plutes and is proud for doing so, they destroy everything they touch, what else can you do with that scum Sounds to me like you're the WEF-collaborating traitor.

>>33645 I agree with this. We all need to work together to stop them. However, this does not address the issue that we have all been infected by the vaxtards and will die the same or worse death as them. By now it is certainly too late, so yes, we need to stick it to the man. The real question is how?? When the 'people' running this world are literal puppets what can we do? The time for revolution has long passed, not with this technochracy oligarchic bullshit that is modern life and politics. A revolution would be drone striked to oblivion and the normfucks watching cnn and fox would applaud it. At this point I am just ready to die, I want out.

>>33646 Not him, but man, if you're actually here defending the useless human trash who just eats, fvcks, wastes, pollutes and destroys everything they touch with a sense of pride, and if standing against all that means supporting the WEF, hell, I might as well root for them, despite the fact that my opinion of them couldn't sink any lower than it already is.

>>33649 People are that way because that was the intended result, and has been for generations primarily due to the Prussian model education system, also western "culture", as well as silent weapon saturation of poisons in our food, water, air, and just about any product we interact with. But sure, think yourself as above and impervious to the deleterious effects that have saturated every corner of modern society and blame the sick dog that salivates at a bell's ring. >>33648 If the population target is somewhere between 2B-500M based on various sources, then this theory being correct would mean a vast overshoot. The ruling parasites would have to actually be far more oblivious and mad than what any multigenerational plan may suggest. Just add spike protein to the giant list of poisons we are exposed to; not a quick death but an earlier one, as usual.

>>33648 Some people have natural immunity to the vaxx by dumb genetic luck. Some have also been injected with defective vaxxes that caused an immune reaction but did not infect them, granting them temporary immunity. I have heard of groups working on attempts to replicate these defective vaxxes at scale, ironically to make a vaccine for a vaccine, but obviously it's all very hush-hush due to the risks involved. You can find contacts on certain telegram chats if you know where to look -- look for FozzieBear. Vaxxers are ultimately a paper tiger, and their ignorance will be their downfall. We simply need to strike when the time is right, and strike fast! Wait for the signal.

>>33651 I am waiting for that signal every day, but as it were, I don't think this is something we can fix. I don't mean to sound so jaded - inherently I am a very hopeful person, but when we are up against ""them"" i think all we can really do is to off ourselves and quit the game. I don't mean to sound like a defeatist.. this is all so complicated..

>>33649 that is such a load of soykaf, who are the people running corporations producing cheap one use products which are discarded soon after polluting the environment, their production also creating pollution in itself, socially engineering people to buy said products, dumping waste in the ocean and on land, wielding technology designed to manipulate the weather, concocting wars to sustain their existence etc. This is not to say the people are blameless, but to lay the blame entirely on a mass of humans which have been molded into what they are presently by insidious individuals who quite literally conducted decades of research (and are still conducting it) into the psychology of the mind and how to manipulate and control it is bullshit. People of the past would never have willfully accepted all of the changes that occurred gradually over time leading to where we are now had they occurred rapidly. >>33557 I'm not worried, I rarely think about the subject at hand I was bored and decided to post about it. And they absolutely will produce more vaccines upon the platform of mRNA, one I saw was a potential rabies vaccine, it may actually be in the works right now. Needless to say there will be more mRNA vaccines for other diseases because these people have decided that mRNA is the medical technology of the future. mRNA grants them immense power it leverages them a backdoor into the genomes of all men permitting them arbitrary code execution, they can do anything they like. Some people mentioned the possibility of mRNA and spike proteins spreading through the air. mRNA can be shed for a short duration of time through the air, potentially up to one week post vaccination. As for whether the volume of mRNA shed is enough to cause harm to others is unknown, there are various factors to take into account, the ambient temperature of a room, ventilation, distance from a vaccinated person to a non-vaccinated person etc, perhaps no mRNA may be absorbed by non-vaccinated people in the presence of vaccinated people or if any was to be absorbed it could be destroyed by their bodies. As for spike protein shedding, as far as I know it cannot spread through the air, however there still remains a multitude of other vectors through which it can be shed. Blood, faeces, urine, any bodily fluids, (i think) skin cells. If I had to imagine it could potentially be shed through any form of bodily waste but not respiration.

>>33660 More or less confirms my suspicions that my disgusting ex infected me. That is what you get for trusting people nowadays. I pray I somehow won the genetic lottery and get free immunity, but I doubt it. Covid is such a fuarrrking sham, my 70 year old father with piss-poor diet got it and had nothing more than mild flulike symptoms for a week.. public health scourge my ass.

>>33649 I'm not here to defend the masses, I need the masses to defend ME and everyone I know. The ONLY thing that can save us from ruling class predation and slavery is the masses rising up. What's your alternative? Just give up? Some hero will come save us? Stupid soykaf. This system will grind to a halt when enough of the masses say NO MORE and fight back. It doesn't even have to be the majority. Just enough to make it happen. Look at any revolution that has happened in history. Yes, trillions of dollars and massive amounts of manpower are spent each year to keep the masses oppressed, confused, disoriented, entertained, sick, and fighting amongst each other. That's what we're up against. But it's no more insurmountable than any other regime that has been defeated in the past. People are WAKING UP, and I'm going to side with them to fight for my freedom, instead of bitching and moaning, and promoting the same ruling class Malthusian narratives.

>>33668 If you put it that way, I couldn't agree more. But if I may ask, out of curiosity, what concrete action would you "fighting for your freedom" actually entail? How far would you be willing to go? And how would your version/vision/exercise of freedom differ from whatever this is that we currently have going on for ourselves? Is there a sudden qualitative difference from, say, you currently drinking beer on Saturdays, keeping up with the latest sitcoms after work and going to the super bowl games on holidays to attending seminars, discussing philosophy and reading poetry on your free time, or would the change be quantitative - more of the same stuffing you've enjoyed thus far?

>>33670 >what concrete action would you "fighting for your freedom" actually entail Generally, the same things that have always been required in a liberation struggle. But we are also in a unique historical situation, and we will have to learn through difficult experience what works and what doesn't with today's technology, social formations, culture, and so on. >And how would your version/vision/exercise of freedom differ from whatever this is that we currently have going on for ourselves We have seen glimpses of this potential in humanity throughout history, but we can barely begin to imagine what it will be like to live in a truly free society, where all of the ruling classes have been eradicated. Our true potential as a species will be unlocked, and we will achieve and become things that nobody could possibly predict.

>>33673 >We have seen glimpses of this potential in bovinity throughout history, but we can barely begin to imagine what it will be like to live in a truly free society, where all of the ruling farmers have been eradicated. Our true potential as a species will be unlocked, and we will achieve and become things that nobody could possibly predict. A cow without a farmer is just a big peice of walking beef. If his rulers had never existed, cows as we know them wouldn't exist, either, and if his rulers vanished tommorow most all cows would shortly follow. Under the husbandry of Man, the Cow has been created and integrated into greater projects, without Man, bovinity is nothing. The greatest power of humanity lies in Husbandry, both to the other creatures of the Earth, and to ourselves. To remove the leadership from mankind is to remove his humanity, and what you will get won't be heights of civilization but pits of barbarity. And more likely than not another ruling class but thats another matter. Not all men are fit to be kings, and it will take more than a couple generations of good Husbandry to change that, if its possible to do, and even then, some will be better than others...perhaps a libertarian utopia on Earth was just not meant to be. TLDR the fact that your current master is bad doesn't mean you don't need or won't have a master.

>>33674 One could argue that man has bastardized the bovine and turned it into something nature never intended. Look at modern factory farming. Exactly what worth does that provide to humanity and the world besides an attitude that we can enslave whatever creatures we see fit? Anyways, I think this is apologist BS. Sure, society needs nominal 'leaders' to direct the flow of events, nothing will truly exist without some sort of power structure, I don't think anyone here is preaching literal anarchy (however exciting that might be) but to have the kind of attitude that it is just inevitable and we should submit to a toxic power structure is a load of soykaf. Life could and should be SO much better. The entire existing power structure needs to be completely removed and replaced with something sane and governed by the common man, not a bunch of rich sociopaths. I'll admit, its a complex issue. Even just the rampant overpopulation today requires some form of oversight to not become a scourge, but it is insane to try and make excuses for the way things are being handled today by the ''''people'''' on top. It is a fuarrrking free-for-all and the epitome of disgusting. Awful, selfish, self-serving nonsense that does disgrace to the entire human spirit.

>>33670 A revolutionary of the 21-st century is, simply put, a highly intelligent, lowly emotional man of doubt, a kind of person who would doubt the very fabric of reality. Someone who's able see past the propaganda and is willing to stop subsidizing the 1% with his life by not consuming and obeying the rules mindlessly. Should a relevant number of individuals like that unite, it's actually astonishingly simple to dry out the ruling class of it's resources. The number of people required to unplug yourself from the system entirely is low, a dozen, if not less. That's why the us gov is so harsh towards abolitionist families and even tiny unarmed outcast groups, and that's why they make sure the people in the society are all strangers, enemies even. I believe, from this point on an actual nation-wide revolution is never going to happen, though, simply due to the fact that absolute most of the people are not like the man of doubt described above, and are in fact getting even dumber and more obedient by the day, whilst on the other hand - the ruling class is as united as it ever was throughout history. Even if the people were to follow the steps required for a successful revolution, it would not differ from what some believe to be doing right now (I'm talking about the 'woke' users), they would simply follow orders, this time around, though, instead of those orders coming from the TV or Twitter, they would come from a revolutionary Messiah, yet the orders themselves would not differ and basically amount to 'everything is going to be better, if we do X'. You are quite right about bovines, most humans are cows, argueably even worse than that, since the cows do not have egos (or even if they do, it's irrelevant) and thus being put through the everending cycles of psychological torment for them is optional. >>33677 What you are is what you think of yourself. What if I told you you are but a shadow of your former self? What if I told you you are not the Human as you were meant to be by 'the nature', as you put it, and are, indeed, designed to be a cow instead? The only thing that differentiates your point of view and the one suggested by me is your current bodily composition that is frightened by the idea of a change in self. >It could be better Life could always be 'better', regardless of whether you are a person or a cow. >Needs to be replaced by the loyal governor Everything and everyone is a product of their environment, what you describe would only be possible in a particular scenario, a scenario that would end the moment the 'justice' had been restored, and with it ending, the environment would simply breed more power-hungry sociopaths once again. >Overpopulation Bedtime spooky stories. The population of this thread is too high on hopium to actually revolt or at least try to begin with, lol.

>>33678 >What you are is what you think of yourself. What if I told you you are but a shadow of your former self? What if I told you you are not the Human as you were meant to be by 'the nature', as you put it, and are, indeed, designed to be a cow instead? I would tell you to go drink a cup of soykaf lol. I'll admit, you do make some good points, but this kind of defeatist attitude isn't going to get us anywhere. Sure, 'they' are hell-bent on turning us all into cattle, but that doesn't mean its an inevitability that we can't resist, and besides through metacognition we can cultivate truth and beauty within ourselves and empower ourselves irrespective of the miserable world around us. Knowing and recognizing these things is half of the battle. >what you describe would only be possible in a particular scenario, a scenario that would end the moment the 'justice' had been restored, and with it ending, the environment would simply breed more power-hungry sociopaths once again. Yeah, except if proper protocols were put into place to ensure something like this never happens again. We have a great deal of history to draw upon and learn from, and humanity has never been in a better place to learn from its mistakes and create a better system for itself. I'll admit, though, that it is by and large hopeless, the average modern 'man' is mere cattle and enjoy being as such, people have been conditioned to such a degree that actual revolution is impossible when most people are content to plug their brain into a television or insider trade on reddit and annihilate their autonomy. Covid was such an exercise in control and abuse of power I'm not sure if we can ever recover our collective autonomy after that. But that is no excuse not to try. More than anything else, ""they"" want us to feel lost and hopeless, and that is the ultimate way to becoming cattle.

>We have a great deal of history to draw upon and learn from, and humanity has never been in a better place to learn from its mistakes and create a bet I dont want to interfere in the general talk but this simply doesn't work because history is altered with time. You don't learn real lessons reading common history books because the stories aren't real. False stories lead to false conclusions. This thread in itself is an example - you cant even have consensus on a recent event how could you believe then consensus on century old stories would be real? History books are just a collection of tales where the winner of such fights has been long established.

>>33674 You are hilariously retarded if you think the ruling class is a different species.

>>33692 >You are hilariously retarded if did you read my fuarrrking post you moron. Greatest power of humanity is that we furnish our own husbands, whereas i.e. cows depend on us for them. >>33677 you sound like a lot more reasonable of a guy then he to whom I was replying. go back and read his post and tell me what he said isnt insane. anyway, more detailed reply follows. >nature never intended does nature even have intentions ? Cows are essentially mankind's creation anyway. >look at modern factory farming this is less a thing with cows but that's still a fair point and I don't want to pick nits. My point is, masters can be good or bad, but there will be masters. A factory farm is an horrible place, and a hen who lives in one would be right to hate her masters. Maybe she can join wings with her comrades, kill the masters, burn the coop and flee into the woods, but anarchy is a poor solution to her problems and will simply mean that she ends up as someone elses dinner. The ideal life of a hen is with a benevolent master, not 'Nature', nor a wolf or fox or any such thing, but a human husbandman who can furnish her with a pleasant life of comfort and saftey. That some masters are bad does not change this fact. >to have the kind of attitude that it is just inevitable and we should submit to a toxic power structure is a load of soykaf not what I am saying, guy I was replying to litterally uses this phrasing: >truly free society, where all of the ruling classes have been eradicated I don't want to defend the powers that be too hard, but this guy just sounds insane to me. Things could be better, but this would be disaster. Simply to implement it would be disaster, though we can debate how possible it would be without killing everyone but the meekest, weakest man. >governed by the common man disagree hard. Cows shouldn't be their own rulers. Most men shouldn't be either. A happy libertarian democracy sort of society is not entierly impossible but it would only work if its made of uncommon men, and it will be neccesary if such a society is to survive to keep the common man out, or under control. >this system is a disgusting free for all the does disgrace to the entire human spirit first of all: YOU CANT DEFEAT THE HUMAN SPIRIT. 'this system' may be disgrace but the fact that your pair of shoes may fit poorly or be worn out doesn't mean shoes aren't basically useful, just that you should get a different pair.

Here's a very thought-provoking video about COVID-19 and the rampant fraud and pseudo-science in the field of virology: >On Whether Viruses Exist & Why The Covid Virus Has Never Been Isolated https://odysee.com/@MaajidNawaz:d/38RadicalFull:f

>>33696 >covid doesn't exist >thought provoking I'm sitting here with very altered taste and smell a year and a half later. Only sweet things still taste good and even then don't taste the way they should. Onions, garlic, cabbage, eggs, beef, all terrible, among many other foods. Fish is really the only meat that tastes close to right. What do you think the cause is, if not covid? Could it be that they want you to think it's fake so you stop asking where it actually came from? Governments and shady organizations colluded to make this virus. You are helping them by telling people that it doesn't exist. It very much does and my life is extremely negatively impacted from it. Imagine if you couldn't enjoy any of the foods you used to love.

Covid vaccines are killing tons of people and making people sick and disabled! The mRNA spike proteins destroy your immune system so the vaccines have effectively given people AIDS. We must stop the vaccines immediately and especially stop injecting them into children and people under 18!!!

>>33726 Nope. Been posting about soykaf like this for years, since 2016 at least. And people were at it decades before me. They're not going to stop, they will maim and kill including children, and people will let them. Post about it? Too controversial, delete.

Humans have been torturing, murdering and raping one anoher since day one and pretending its good and ok. None of this crap is news, nobody cares, people care more about a bunch of people kicking a leather ball but do not care at all about the environment they live in. People have done this and keep doing it, this is far too humane and they deserve to rot in hell for what they did all their lifes.

>>33728 Jokes on us. This is hell.

>>33729 This is what im saying, humans have turned this world into hell and now expect life to be something other than torture. Nobody but humanity has created and maintained this fuarrrking mess, they live in it and now they get devoured by it, this is simple causality at work. The thing is people wont admit it to themselfs they did all this and even refuse to change anything at all about the way thing are but just play victim and hope someone fixes this mess for them.

Everybody makes fun of schizos, meanwhile, I envy them for living in such an exciting world.

>>33731 This is some particularly retarded propaganda along with its cousin "conspiracy theorists say stuff because it's comfy"

>>33732 I don't know if it's "comfy", but the unwillingness to be limited by any external reality is definitely and motivating factor. There's an undeniable rush in re-creating the world as you see fit, and bringing other people into it.

>>33734 Like he said, you're basically retarded. You've now switched over to a covert and indirect form of the same projection and propaganda model. That conspiracism is the result of handling emotional fragility and stems from a feeble mind organizing and handling complexity and ambiguity and complexity the only way it can, meeting security needs by dissociation and retreating to an internal fantasy space where they have more control. Then trying to gain power and solve the issue by extending the internal apophenia and pareidolia dominated internal fantasy world of nonsense and gibberish (because they're feeble minded, stupid, infantile creatures, and you're the adult) outward into the "shared fantasy" and essentially inducting others into the personal religion to bolster it. All due to an inability to face reality and a neotenous, childish inability to face reality, along with narcissistic arrogance and a need for absolute control, ie fragility of both mind and hurt, and a pain avoidance response. It's all braindead projection on your part. You spend your life wading through a sea of contrived 2D (if not 1D) shallow caricatures of other people. You don't know them, you never will know them, you don't even know yourself, much less the world. I used to feel pity and disgust, now I just feel contempt and sad for the world with you as a component of it.

>>33735 Lot of repetition and duplication, just woke up. Don't care, no need to correct it. You're (and your type in general) are too stupid to engage with it anyway. I can think like me, and like you. I was made for this, not everyone has what it takes, this much has become undeniable. I'm trying to add on to what I said. Why the fuarrrk is FLOOD DETECTED? How long is the cooldown on this soykaf? For fuarrrk's sake.

Imagine still caring about Covid 19. I remember people on this very board promising me a mass casualty event that would be caused by vaccines, somebody even told me that I would die because I got vaccinated. Was that you OP because I'm still here. Are you willing to admit that you are an uneducated idiot that fell for online disinformation? Are you emotionally mature enough to accept your lack of critical thinking skills, your gullibility and your general lack of intelligence? Will this experience change you or will you embrace your irrationality and just dive deeper into magical thinking black hole? The choice is yours.

>>33737 Nuh uh, the vaccine kill;s u slowly! Just wait another 5 years bro I swear everyone's gonna die. It's kind of annoying how nothing can be reasonable when it comes to vaccines. Like if I tell a liberal that I think medical companies are pushing for an excessive amount of boosters for no good reason, and that I think overall the policy of months-long "quarantine" was a bad idea, they act like I just told them I think cloud people are watching me. If I tell a Qtard that I think there is a lot of evidence that mRNA vaccines are effective and just as safe as pretty much every other mass-distributed medicine, they act like I just told them I want to eat bugs.

>>33737 insurance companies literally complained about too unexpected high numbers causing issues. So yes you did have extra dead its just not the sky falling. There were also some army doctors calling alarm citing their own database. You are basically the bona fide example of smug contrarian looking for the strongest nutter to confirm you knew better rather than admitting moderate takes were accurate. And certainly not less accurate than the initial doomsday scenarios officials made about rona itself.

I retract my previous post(which I have deleted). I neglected the "non-covid-19" part. Indeed, the image in the OP is accurate. I was interested in why these trends, and they also release cause-of-death data, so I calculated a column ((registered deaths - deaths with covid-19 as underlying cause) - expected deaths)/registered deaths. The results were very interesting! I have the graphs here: https://envs.sh/hDq.zip . Notably, cause of death related to cardiovascular problems, respiratory problems, or diabetes all follow a similar pattern. I believe it is possible that this could be related to the pervasive problem of when a death is reported as having "covid-19 as underlying cause", which has changed substantially over time. It is very difficult to conclude anything at all from a simple perusal of this data but it is interesting nonetheless. It is clear, however, that if you include excess deaths attributed to covid-19, the spike in march 2020 was much more massive than this effect.

God there is so much I could say here but it feels like not a fuarrrking soul will budge at this point. Where do you draw the line on all of this? How is that line define and is it valid? Did you consider the counterarguments in good faith? Who and what do you trust and what do you verify on your own? For those that you trust, what is their agenda and what do they have to gain from their statements? Are there any contradictions or fallacies in your reasoning? Now none of us know how anybody else has answered these questions, neither is there any good way of just getting that out of the way before discussions. What is obvious is that this topic will have individuals answering these questions very differently. We all want everyone to be safe, but it seems that has been lost in the complexity and the stakes of this topic. It's so frustrating and ultimately devastating. >>33741 Good on you for doing your due diligence and have the integrity to argue for the sake of truth, and not for the sake of winning an argument. I hope more follow your example.

The actual truth is that all vaccines are poison and always have been. It's not that mRNA is suddenly bad while childhood vaccines were fine. This is the reality few will face, it is not exteme, it is not a manifestation of dichotomous knee jerk oppositional black and white think ie the infantile defense mechanism known as splitting, it's the simple truth and anyone who ahs done their research knows this.

you cannot stop people that have decided to join side with satan not to, because, they have already joined, so who cares really, i am too busy loving god son and holy spirit

Ed Dowd makes a very interesting point in some of his interviews. Basically, imagine you are a vaxxie and you're diagnosed with terminal myocarditis, two years left to live. Or your wife or kid drops dead due to heart attack or stroke. You would basically have nothing left to live for, except for revenge. Dowd says that the people most likely to get violent and attack doctors or NWO agents are the jab victims themselves. What are the implications of this, and how far could it go? Will vaxxed people start rioting also?

>>33711 You could have been poisoned. The NWO is releasing all kinds of poisons and toxins into our food, air, and water. COVID could be a coverup of that. If it's just a toxin, you might even be able to regain your sense of smell and taste by doing some kind of detox. Hell, it could be 5G towers for all we know.

>>33716 The thing is that it is extremely difficult to form a causative chain of events there. As >>33717 has said, everyone is poisoned on a regular basis these days, so how can you know for sure it was a vaccine? Covid is a much easier scapegoat because it mostly has consistent symptoms and everyone already knows how infectious disease works. But if I got a shot 2+ years ago and then develop a weird heart condition, how do I know it's not anything else? Maybe I just inhaled too much gasoline exhaust, or maybe it's because of microplastics. Heck maybe it's the drinking problem I developed while under lockdown. Like I always say, the vaccine is just one of ten things killing me slowly.

>2020 >"The mRNA spike proteins make your immune system go wild so the vaccines have effectively given you an auto immune disease" >Ignoring the actual virus has mRNA spike proteins >2023 >"The mRNA spike proteins destroy your immune system so the vaccines have effectively given people AIDS" >still ignoring the actual virus has mRNA spike proteins >ignores the narrative change out of nowhere

I was a bit worried about corona but by the time that I knew a lot of people who'd gotten it and everyone shrugged it off it became apparent that it wasn't *that* dangerous. I still don't know anyone who died of it. I was a bit worried about the vaccines but now I know a lot of people who've gotten them and basically all seem pretty much fine; its not *that* dangerous. I still don't know anyone who died of it. It might be that vaxx'd people cut 5 years off their lives or whatever and it will be interesting to see what happens going forward but end of the day, it doesn't seem too terrible. Did the gov. mandates make any sense ? No. Did the massive push to create it as fast as possible and pay/protect drug corps to develop it make any sense after ? By George Floyd's day clearly no. Are govs and media continuing to lie through their teeth (if they're not just that dumb) about all manner of things relating to it ? Sure. End of the day I think its nearly always better to not get injections and not do drugs if you can avoid it. Lot of inherent risks, payoff needs to be clear and substantial. In this case, it wasn't. So I didn't get it, and am glad of that.

>>33718 Good point. It seems like some of the more egregious damage is coming out with clear trends of vascular and immune adverse reactions, but there may be many other affects that do not see any definitive answer for a long time. I would hope what is currently being uncovered will be enough, heck what is being unveiled now are related to the two biggest killer classes of disease, but the stress/confusion/exhaustion narrative treadmill might foment a psychological shutdown instead, literal walking zombies trying their best and failing to enjoy what may be their last days. >>33719 >government mandates It's incredible. You can still catch, get sick from, and spread (!!) the virus. The mandates are all predicated on not being able to spread the virus, and it has exhaustively confirmed that it does jack soykaf to prevent that. As if the signal, right off the bat, of sharp rises of covid cases a month following the rollout of vaccination, irrespective of season or current spread or location, was not enough. Maybe the closest parallel to people dropping dead is like when someone lives in a country riddled with western colonialism: most days, sometimes years things are peaceful in your town, but one day your relative or friend's house gets bombed. They're dead, but life moves on. To both of the posters, the shots themselves... the so called 'batches' are so different in the incidence of adverse events it's rational to conclude that the batches are intentionally made differently. From the way things look, the current excess deaths will likely be massaged into being baseline mortality rate, essentially making the excess death from the covid jabs somewhat invisible, and otherwise explained away as some nonsense like climate change. I personally find the notion that this isn't some deliberate eugenics operation ridiculous, so anything involved with that such as poisons in food I doubt will come under significant criticism.

>>33720 >From the way things look, the current excess deaths will likely be massaged into being baseline mortality rate The "baseline mortality rate" is usually just a rolling average of deaths from previous years. It's descriptive, not prescriptive.

>>33745 The spike protein from the vaccine is humanized, free floating, based off of Wuhan/Delta strain thus prion-like, and produced by mRNA of which only ~75% has maintained integrity yet does not deteriorate in a reliable timeframe with in-tact mRNA being found in lymph nodes for those that only got the original series shots to this day. Yes there is immune suppression from the illness which may make new or existing illnesses worse. The cardio issues from spike protein damage has been demonstrated but are far less significant than that of the vaccine, and having failed to avoid infection once would still grant a strong immune response to subsequent infections. The virus spike protein is attached to the body of the virus, is not made in the human body thus not humanized, anything descended from Omicron is not prion-like, most of which does not enter the bloodstream, and gets cleared from the body since it isn't being constantly produced. This also suppresses your immune system, to the degree where latent diseases can spring up or cause cancer new or in remission to come back aggressively. It has been demonstrated by AHA that everyone gets heart damage and cardiovascular mortality has been directly linked to the vaccine. Immunity from covid is increased for up to two months but then falls below that of somebody that has got neither infected or shot, with each shot causing roughly a 30% drop in resistance against covid and likely lasting effects on general immunity. As for anti-vax narrative there's this, which has been directed by research, then there's the degradation from poor understanding, analysis, and wild speculation. You should specify the thought group you are attacking because 'anti-vax' or whatever is far too general. In contrast to the monolithic MSM narrative which may not even be mainstream for long.

>>33721 Right right. Derp. Poor hot take theorizing aside I suppose it can be argued it's already happening to a degree with many of the excess deaths not being linked to any particular thing.

>>33720 >the so called 'batches' are so different in the incidence of adverse events it's rational to conclude that the batches are intentionally made differently Yeah, aside from just plain quality control issues. Inconsistent vial contents provide a method of: 1. Targeted killing, to reduce population in specific regions and demographics 2. A/B Testing (trying out different technology and doses to figure out what works best for the MRNA platform Guess what else follows from this mass murder? Now, even if you're unvaxxed, if the government wants you dead, they can just give you the heart attack gun and claim it was a vaccine injury.

>>33735 (I'm not the poster you've been replying to.) Yeah, that's how it works for everyone, yourself included. There's no 'reality' to twist, the form of the outside is ultimately ambiguous, your perception of it is and will always be, just like you've said it, an attempt of a feeble mind to organise and handle the unknowable complexity. You getting angry about somebody holding a belief that is contradictory to that of yours is in itself an act of compromising 'reality' for the sake of your own comfort and emotional stability - an act of protecting your own fantasy from collapsing in doubt while facing the unfathomable schizo babble. Your entire world model is built inside, it will stay inside for as long as you live, and it will die with you. You may find resemblance between your world model and those of the others, but this resemblance is illusionary since, considering that what you perceive becomes a part of your world model, and thus just another shadow of 'reality', the moment it is being perceived, everything you can possible accept as true or deny as false is you yourself. In this regard, a schizo is blessed. In his fantasy world he is autonomous, unbothered by the mass and their own brainpoops, his inward empire is lively and vivid, his thinking - untarnished by the illusion of certainty. He is true to himself, for there is little of his self at all. But, of course, normals would route out my words and stay faithful to the grandeur of belief that they are reasonable and logical, and that what see - is Truth.

>>33745 Reverse Transcriptase, igG4, original antigenic sin means these are not the same. There are Israeli studies showing that the shots cause much more spike-related carnage than the virus, especially in the young

>>33735 Your pop psych babble is a far worse coping mechanism than attributing plans to the powerful

My impression is that cause of death is basically always mostly made up. Usually there's something easy on hand like a heartattack, and thats that. Reasonable guess, if there's no disagreement that goes down on the form and everyone moves on. So in 2035 a guy dies. Seems like it was a heartattack, they sit down to fill out the form, write that down. Maybe someone's curious, could the vax have been behind this ? Was the guy even vaxxed ? He didn't seem terribly unhealthy, a bit young to die of heartattack. If you're lucky he had a wife and he had her at the time, maybe she remembers or can find the card if he had one, but maybe not. Pfizer ? Moderna ? Two shots ? Four ? Just this week a guy I know who works at a clinic told a story about a colleague who was giving people double dosages, could it have been a guy like that ? On the other hand I know a few people with fake vax cards too, maybe it was that. Most likely no one bothers to check these things even cursorily. And thats just to say whether or not the guy was vaxx'd to begin with, the doctor will have to give it to one of his grad students for a phd project if they want to trace out the actual causality. And hey, who's trusting doctors these days? Still thats probably the best that can be done. Final verdict ? Just write down heartattack lol. >>33723 >give you the heart attack gun and claim it was a vaccine injury why not just claim it was long covid? Science say: if he was vaxxed he would have had fewer adverse effects. Or just a fuarrrking heartattack such things happen.

>>33735 >>33736 You realize that blind, fuming panic like this makes you folks look even worse? The bigger problem than your claims not being true is that you don't know how to present them either. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

>>33724 cause of death attribution was also a problem for listing coronadeaths. Some gunshot and car crash deaths got listed as corona, possibly a lot. When you try to analyze statistics remember that they are full of soykaf like this. Excess deaths might also rise from various other coincident things like the murder rate spike in basically all American cities. World is full of different things happening at once and everything is connected but that doesn't mean this one theory is right.

>>33747 When it comes to inner worlds, machinery, entities, and labyrinths, along with hijacking and reworking those more motivational subsystems to become something that can feed on and continue through anything, I think I probably know a bit more than you do. Not that it matters who knows more of what. I read your post though, I want you to know. >>33750 There is no blind fuming panic. This is something in your head. >You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. False. It doesn't matter what you do. There are a few things I didn't try, but facts and tugging on the heart strings, nor making someone feel seen or any of this, are definitely not what works if you aren't the dominant power. It's that simple. You are several steps behind a lot of people here and don't realize it.

>>33751 It matters very much what you do. People are inclined to follow those who communicate with a sense of confidence and self-assuredness. That's generally lacking in schizo discourse.

>>33752 Again, tried it. It doesn't matter. It's like rain, you need an adequate nucleation surface and mass, then it collects and falls. Until you have that core to get it moving, with certain optics of course, nothing really happens. And when it comes down to it, most people don't care about anything, to begin with. At all. To quote Albert Pike: "We are in the midst of a revolution; and, as is usual, those who are hurried along in its vortex are, for the most part, ignorant of the real causes that have produced the revolution, and of the depth to which the questions involved in the controversy have struck their roots downward among the very foundation-stones of the Republic. Appeals to the nonsense of the people sometimes prove effectual; and the tendency in all political controversies is to limit and narrow questions, and to present them in a practical and empirical manner; because abstract principles, even when fundamental, do not appeal to most men with a thousandth part the force of considerations of present economy, policy, and expediency. You must crystallize an abstraction into a fact that appresses, before you can arouse a people by it. [...] Abstract theories of government rarely enlist the passions of the people. They operate chiefly on the minds of Statesmen. But when these theories, applied to and developed in facts, become palpable realities, then the popular heart is moved by them, and they beget revolutions." -Albert Pike, Pamphlet produced prior to the Civil War. Taken from "Southern Pamphlets on Secession, November 1860-April 1861" p. 328 These are real and observable facts which experience, for me, has confirmed. If you don't accept the facts and try to keep doing the same thing over and over (repetition compulsion), you won't get anywhere. In fact, you'll be turned schizo, and then the masses will either maim and brutalize you or ignore you even further. So they're stupid enough to bemoan their own creation, but that's another matter.

>>33717 >boss comes back from trip sick >spend a couple days in very close contact due to riding in the same vehicle for work >also become sick >day or two later girlfriend is sick >somehow this is attributed to "NWO" chemtrails Think now, does it seem logical that if the totally not Jews are spraying chemicals in the air and food that my illness happened following exposure to another person who's sick, then someone I was kissing became sick? Kind of like when you get someone else's cold from touching things they touched then eating or whatever? Why don't we all just get sick randomly if it's chemtrail bullshit? I never get sick and haven't been since. Don't worry about what happened at the Wuhan lab, it's totally 5G towers! You fuarrrking idiot. >>33718 You didn't inhale too much gasoline exhaust unless you live in China. If you live in the developed world you breathe less gasoline exhaust than people used to. So we have one saying it's 5G chemtrails and the other saying it's gasoline exhaust that's "poisoning" people. My car didn't cause my taste and smell to completely disappear then return altered. It's likely damage to the olfactory bulb, observed in people who have been infected by the wuflu. Are you both working for the CCP?

>>33754 Everyone is sick, momo. Have you looked at modern statistics for chronic disease at all? Stop acting enlightened and start considering whether your normal little world and normal little life ain't so fuarrrkin' normal.

>>33754 You don't have very good reading skills if you think that >>33718 was implying that covid isn't real.

>>33756 Anti-conspiracists / coincidence theorists never have good reading skills, momo. Of course he doesn't. Why would he? It's to be expected.

holy soykaf this is disturbing... the guy is documenting final days/hours on twitter, he is literally dying from the vaccine.

>>33758 Since you're following, what substantiation do we have that it's happening? Not that I doubt it.

>>33750 >You realize that blind, fuming panic like this makes you folks look even worse You are an adult child if you think lying and covering up the truth to keep up appearances is worthwhile.

>>33754 >Why don't we all just get sick randomly if it's chemtrail bullshit This is what happens every year during flu season. When it's flu season, people start simultaneously getting the flu all around the northern/southern hemisphere, without any evidence of contagious spread from one region to another. Makes u think, huh?

>>33761 The whole concept of a "flu season" is fuarrrking retarded to begin with. Why is it windowed to rapidly peak at a certain time everywhere, why a season, why any of it? Ohhh blah blah your vitamin D drops when the sun changes etc etc etc and a certain percentage are predisposed so they "catch it" (???) and then it spread to everyone else blah blah. Yeah, sounds retarded. I don't take yearly mystery injections, I've never gotten the flu. Weird huh? Almost like it's a SCAM.

>>33756 >Covid is a much easier scapegoat because it mostly has consistent symptoms and everyone already knows how infectious disease works. But if I got a shot 2+ years ago and then develop a weird heart condition, how do I know it's not anything else? Maybe I just inhaled too much gasoline exhaust, or maybe it's because of microplastics. Heck maybe it's the drinking problem I developed while under lockdown. Sounds like he says covid is a scapegoat and suggests exhaust and microplastics are the cause of adverse reactions following vaccination, which makes perfect sense doesn't it? You just had a heart attack after your fifth booster? Well it's because we haven't derezzed gas stoves of course. You can't read. >>33761 Yeah okay lol. You're such a delusional retard. CCP is innocent covid is actually imagined by the west, is that your next post?

>>33627 Prion diseases don't spread through skin contact. The information on prion diseases is readily available online, why would you fear without researching. Prion diseases among humans arise through numerous vectors, a prion has to be introduced to the body and must get the opportunity to misfold healthy proteins of the same type as itself. Misfolded PrP will misfold healthy PrP. Consuming anything contaminated with prions be it food, water, medication (this happened once in the case of human growth hormone) would set you on the path to developing prion disease, receiving an injection of something with prions in it, being operated on with contaminated surgical equipment, etc. But just touching an infected person would not initiate prion disease. You would know if someone had prion disease, the cognitive decline brought about the disease is very severe most are dead within months of the onset of symptoms. Prions can linger in the body for years, even decades before initiating illness. The prion will misfold healthy proteins which will then misfold healthy proteins, a cascading domino effect. One month someone could have some cognitive issues and in 4 months they could be bedridden, unresponsive and seizuring. Vaccinated could have prions within their bodies, perhaps they could spread them, they shouldn't have a large volume of prions in their system. Don't take blood from them, I don't know, use some common sense and you'll be fine. I think most of the vaccine shedding is a meme, there certainly is no chance of the vaccinated shedding deadly prions to the general populace, that would be insane, far too insane for even the elites to do. The reason why is because prions are near indestructible, you know what it takes to render a prion incapable of transmitting it's misshapen form onto healthy proteins, mind you it is being made incapable of producing more prions it is not even being destroyed. The prion must be subjected to extremely high temperatures for an extended period of time, for example it could be heated at 900F or higher for several hours which should make it no longer "contagious". It could be submerged in a solution of harsh chemicals and heated for an extended period of time, etc. The means required to render prions "noncontagious", or even destroy them are very extreme. Dropping thermonuclear warheads on the entire surface of the planet after all the non-elites have died from prions wouldn't be enough to decontaminate the planet as a vast and open world cannot be controlled like a small chamber within a laboratory.

>>33762 Agreed. to be honest, at this point I think the theory of colds/influenzas presented in anime is about as credible as the "science." >Get caught in the rain >Get sick At least it's consistent... >>33764 >CCP is innocent covid is actually imagined by the west, is that your next post? The fascist """Communist""" Party of China is in on the whole scam. COVID is a myth used by the global government as cover to start culling the population. China is part of that global government.

>>33535 It doesn't stop transmission and was never tested for it, and this was apparent during the first roll-out for people who paid attention. You were never protecting your dad >>33536 I hope people also say "no crying over spilt milk" after the pogroms return

>>33612 There is no grand master plan. But in fact there are plans out there. It's the mark of a retard to conflate these and be incapable of finding middle ground between "grand Illuminati 10,000 master global conspiracy" and "all people in power are just stupid and incompetent and never feint or plan ahead"

>>33768 >find middle ground I want to point two things out about what you're saying. First, and this is only important for your own self-growth, you're so wrapped up in liberalism that your idea of a good mindset is "in the middle" -- I will counter this with: You deserve what you tolerate. Second, while your absolutism contradicts your "balanced" sentiment, saying there *could* be a "grand master plan" would be more in step with your ideas. We can say, with absolute certainty, that the "all people in power are just stupid and incompetent and never feint or plan ahead" is outright false. We have instances of this happening, up to and including, the 12 exceptionally wealthy, old-world/blood money families that are at the center of many "conspiracy theories".. This disproves that. You can't disprove the "grand master plan", unfortunately, because we can't really know one way or the other. We can't know, entirely, who is a "pawn" or "puppet" and to whom and how high up it may be.

>>33769 I agree with you more than the other guy (if I'm following this thread right, which is kind of meandering). I believe there are larger plans than a lot of people are comfortable admitting to themselves, so you run into thought-terminating cliches instead. Other than that, I think you assume too much about me

perpetual middlegroundedness is certainly bad if you have actual enemies, but I don't think that's his point. Vaccine Enthusiasts take the insane extreme view that the vaccine is 100% safe & effective, conspiratard schizos take the view that it is litteral poison designed at the behest of Bill Gates and Claus Schwab, and the only explanation for why it hasnt killed everyone yet is that they have an even more devious plot that is still unfolding. Both of these are basically strawmen, easy to attack. You see this sort of breakdown show up a lot in heated culture war topics, and it leads many people to talk past eachother. If you can cut out the crazy fringes on either side it seems like there'd be a better forum for more interesting discussion, and because of this there's a lot of power in being the one who decides where to draw the lines.....that said even if they're absent they still seem to become the topic frequently, and a punching bag without voice can still be punched quite a bit.

>>33771 >Vaccine Enthusiasts take the insane extreme view that the vaccine is 100% safe & effective, What annoys me, as someone who generally leans more towards this side than the other, is that so many people take this to such a ridiculous extreme that they are against the very idea of verifying it. Every single study you see about it phrases the question as relevant to "reducing vaccine hesitancy" rather than... you know... actually figuring out whether they are safe. Want to make people less hesitant to take a vaccine? Start by running your trials like you should (did you know that everybody in the placebo group for the original Pfizer trials was offered a real injection?), do some real science and make it publicly available. When these vaccines first came out it was much easier to find clear safety and efficacy information with actual trials that wasn't obvious propaganda. I guess drug companies realized that they didn't really need to convince anyone any more when they could just get the vaccine mandated.

This dude just clickbaited on lainchan of all places

>>33773 Which actually makes him extremely based. Possibly even redpilled.

>>33770 That was the only post I've made in this thread.

Vaccination is the sublimated sexual aggression of a bunch of serial rapists with a penetration fixation. Think about it. You groom them, coerce them, trick them, bait them. Gain control, dominate them and force them, isolate them. Then you move in to seal the deal, take your rod and penetrate them. The ritual ends with you deposit all of your material inside their body, and it starts to grow what you want, no different then sowing the fields. They are your cattle, your fields to reap and sow, your playthings to take pleasure from. Covid was a form of collective rape.

In the previous thread (around december 2020) with this topic, there was someone from Austria that I talked to. Are you still there? How are you? If you read this, please respond, I want to know how are you doing and if everything is fine. I really hope so.

>>33777 I meant 2021. I am so sorry.

"I like being doctored too; in the spring there was an outbreak of smallpox and I went and was vaccinated in a foundling hospital—if only you knew how I enjoyed myself that day." -t. Dostoevsky, Brothers Karamazov https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/28054/pg28054-images.html#chap04 >Dostoy predicted redditbrained vax fanatics

I was worried lainchan might b pro-censorship and this thread topic would not be here. But its been here for a while. I don't agree with the schizo, but I hate censorship even more. Let idiots say stupid soykaf if gives us the freedom to be our ourselves.

>>33781 I don't need the approval or permission, especially from some creature that calls me an idiot and a schizo. Your post attempts to show warmth and hope, but is marred and buried under resentment and cowardice. You disgust me and I want nothing to do with you nor do I care what happens to you in all but the most abstract and aggregated terms. I don't care about your journey, I don't care how old you are, I don't care where you came from, I don't about your parents, I don't care about your early childhood, I don't know or care about your "you". You are just another brainfried animal drooling out buzzwords.

>>33784 thank you kanye, very cool

>>33785 normal person redditor response. Thank you for confirming.

>>33784 Not that I don't more or less agree, but with that kind of attitude, are we even any better than them? We need to conduct ourselves becomingly and with grace if we are to be taken seriously by society at large, and what I just read here was typical spilling the soykaf me vs. you inanity. End note: you know that poster was a meat user when he typed 'b' instead of 'be'