Can you fix girls

I was thinking recently on how much you can make girl change to suit your tastes. Will they listen to your instructions and actually try to be a better girl for you, or they will not. I personally do what I want and refuse to change no matter who and why tells me to. I myself will not change for a girl or anything else. So this way of thinking is more understandable to me. However there could be different people out there that think differently about it. Thus I want your opinions on this matter.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf. Always argue in good faith and avoid using personal attacks. OP is in bad faith regarding not being willing to change but wanting others to, and some replies are also in similar bad faith. Hopefully the replies and discussion can save this thread.)

>>32956 Short answer is yes. In our evolutionary environment it was not uncommon for one tribe to conqueror another tribe and take their women. Women who failed to adjust to their new tribe's culture failed to pass on their genes. This is why women are way more conformist and agreeable than men and forms the biological bases for the Liberal white woman trope. This is also why female suffrage is such a big issue to the establishment, women being much more susceptible to propaganda makes the government's life much easier.

You said it yourself, people are different, women are people therefore women are different. Also within relationships (not just romantic), both parties change with time in similar ways, you start mimicking each-other in different behaviors, your partner might start enjoying a hobby of yours, and you might start talking more like your partner for example. Molding someone to be exactly the way you want them to be is nearly impossible, and will certainly backfire, as is the case with over-controlling parents who later get abandoned by their children. I hope you mean well, it is better to find someone who already shares your most important values, the rest isn't that important, you'll figure out compromises together.

>>32956 With so many people in the world, it is better to find someone compatible with you (there are many!) then to hope they will change (most likely not).

>>32985 >better not to hope they will change This is ridiculous of course they will change, expecting a person to not change is like expecting the sun not to rise. What is more, they will change as a reaction to you. Only question is how you can manage and direct what changes occur, and what the limits of such powers are. Assuredly you should also care about the inclinations and qualities of the person from the beginning but expecting them not to change is just fuarrrking insane.

>>32987 You missed my point, they certainly will change, but hoping they will change in a specific way to suit your tastes (like OP mentioned) is less likely to work if the changes necessary are too many. Usually people asking this questions are unsatisfied with their current partner or willing to start a relationship with a person with traits that are incompatible hoping that people can change to be as they wish.

>>32956 Who are you to mold other people to suit your whims? You dare to ask others to change for you, while refusing to change yourself? Such arrogance!

>>32956 This is not a healthy mindset to approach any sort of relationship with anyone.

>>33202 depends what it is. If he wants to play jesus trying to save drug addict etc. is it really bad? Realistically people follow the path of least resistance or course and rather hide their bad habits than play along and try to stop it.

I guess I will explain what I want from a girl then. I want her to be generally obedient, subservient and respect me a lot. I am also into BDSM, so she has to be a good sub/slave for me. Also I like quiet, introverted girls. So she has to be that as well. So how do I find or change a girl to suit my tastes.

>>33223 you are only saying superficial and sexual preferences, if you want a woman just to have sex, you find several of this type in bars, clubs, dating apps or at shows, this type of behavior is relatively difficult to change in someone (already that sexual preferences and personality traits are things that are molded from childhood). Now if you mean about personal tastes, like music, books, movies, hobbies etc..., these are small and malleable traits that you can influence by being a more empathetic partner and spending more quality time with your loved one doing things you enjoy and presenting to them.

>>33224 They are not superficial I do mean them in the most general sense. I can write more about myself: As for my hobbies, then surf the net, videogames, anime, movies occasionally. I also like to look at the ocean, can do it for hours straight. I generally like resorts and resort like environments. I like to think about existentialism and varoius other things. I am introverted thinker kind of guy.

>>33223 You find one. >>33227 It is good to know what you like, then you can move on as soon as you know a person fits you or not.

>>32956 If she actually likes you, you'd be astounded what she may do to please you.

>>33251 Quality-assured base. Don't think person, who wasn't cared can understand this truly, but I dare you - try and you will be surprised to your own actions and thoughts

>>33223 You're just describing feminine. You, like 99% of guys just want a feminine girl. Sorry bro, hoeflation has fuarrrked the market and average girls from 40 years ago are out of reach for the average man. Assuming you just mean light BDSM where you tie her up, roll play non consentual sex, and face fuarrrk her, not like proper "I'm going to stick needles in you" then you're describing average normal sexuality. You'll find that in most girls The problem is, from how you have described yourself I don't know what you have that would 1) differentiate yourself from the average man (making you likely or deserving of a partner) 2) inspire trust and submissiveness A lot of men complain about having to decide where they and their partner eat, they do exactly what their partner asks them (rather that having responsibility over everything), they're excessively conciliatory instead of being considerate; and in all these ways and more they're ceding headship and authority. The "Chads" are not just social and physical, they're also willing to be assertive and masculine enough to allow women to be feminine, and small, and playful. Most guys are entitled, lazy, and immature, and without their leadership women are forced to micro manage them. The women become more masculine and less submissive. After an entirely lifetime of being told to be a boss bitch it starts to sink in and they stop being feminine So, in short: if you're not in the top ten percent of men (based on women's standards) and not an experience and mature leader then you're going to have to compromise. And that will mean either: dating a woman with a long sexual history, dating a woman with trauma, dating a less submissive woman, or a combination Sorry

>>33251 That sounds hopeful. Thanks. >>33380 I guess people rarely truly cared for me. >>33386 Well I guess I would not stick needles in her as part of session, but would not go on her easy and light either. Well, I want her to have rings in her nipples so that pull on them. For me it is mostly a power fantasy so I want a 24/7 slave girl. I want a sense that I own her completely. I also like to humiliate, objectify and beat her. Fornihpilia, rimjob, dogeza, spanking, various forceful handling. Gags, chockers, chastity belt, leather, latex, hoods, gimp suit. That kind of thing. Many in BDSM community praise Story of O, I cannot say this 100% but I guess it is closer to idea than many other stuff.

>>32956 No, you can only give them the tools to attempt to teach them hoping they'll realize their ways and only then possibly you'll have the best you can fix scenario.

>>32956 >asian woman pic Lmao it's just too good. Congratulations on being highly susceptible to propaganda from smarter fellas who made you unfuckable and could probably make you die in a war against Russia or China or DPRK willingly, based on the paranoia about hackers I see around here that's based entirely off glowjack concern trolling.

>>33430 Do you mean that fuarrrk Her Gently video

>>32956 I can relate. I want a woman. But I want one who is intellectually stimulating. Not even necessarily to have sex with, I'd be fine to be friends - but if I could I would take such a woman as a lover. Unfortunately most women seem to be a bit dull and doe-eyed. I want the kind of woman who will not shirk her eyes at the subversive or the transgressive, and who is a bit masculine in that way. There's nothing I hate more than communicating my opinion to a woman under the impression that she might understand, only for her to adopt a look of repulsion and say, "yikes." I really hate when women pretend to be interesting and crazy in order to get attention, and then when I dig deeper they are just a normal person at their core. They can never talk about anything serious or deep. It's so superficial, because they are afraid of being ostracized. Everytime I try to say what I am thinking, I am met with confusion and derision. I guess they don't want to become a crazy person like me - god forbid that ever happen.

>>33489 to many expectations. the most important is if she can cook and fulfills your sex Qwishes

>>33490 I don't know if I agree. I think high expectations are perfectly reasonable if it is someone you plan to invest a lot of time and money into.

>>33489 Intellectuality does interest me, however I do not see often so called doe eyed women like say Tsukasa from Lucky Star or the OP's picture. A lot of them seemed: unintellectual, but stubborn/forceful and entitled. May be just that behavior stands out too much. Or my poor opinion of my mother makes me skeptical about women in general. I sure as hell do not want to deal with someone like her. on the other hand I have poor idea how different looks and feels. What is even possible with them.

Sure, you can 'change' some aspects of their behavior. For example if they consistently do something that you dislike, you can have a conversation with them about how that action affects you and they *might* change that aspect of their personality. Other than that, what makes you think you're so good that you can 'fix' someone? What does that even mean to begin with? Are you asking for some girl to be your subservient madonna?

The modern woman is so fuarrrked in the head they generally won't understand what it means to work together. Social media, hypersexualization and entitlement complexes have all but destroyed the concept of a relationship but for those who are lucky enough to meet a unicorn. The conspiracy lies in attacking the weakest link, namely, the woman's ego. I've been with... 7 girls now? Treated them so well, but at the end of the day when the mask is removed I find something ugly as hell every time. Be your own partner. The only person we can rely on is ourselves and it pays to learn to love it. I thought I could fix these girls and instead I nearly drove myself insane. Screw looking for validation in other people. Dead-end street.

>>33626 I look not for validation, but for an obedient fuarrrkdoll who can clean and cook too.

>I was thinking recently on how much you can make girl change to suit your tastes. there is nothing to fix in girls, people will only change for you if they genuinely love you, otherwise they won't >Will they listen to your instructions and actually try to be a better girl for you, or they will not. only if you treat them well and they treat you back >I personally do what I want and refuse to change no matter who and why tells me to. I myself will not change for a girl or anything else. So this way of thinking is more understandable to me. you will never grow as a person if you go by that mentality >However there could be different people out there that think differently yeah no soykaf

>>33636 Same difference, if you ask me. You sound like a bad person though, so you probably deserve all the awful soykaf I've went through. Clean and cook for yourself, you whore.

>>32959 yes and no. yes because you could do it in the past when the world was a more lawless and natural environment where your life was at stake more often than not and a big fat NO today because the government and society has made it so they have no reason to change. if a person especially a woman today changes its usually because they wanted to change and not because of you. dont bother trying to save a bad bitch or wife her up such people are beyond saving. your best bet is to live somewhere with stronger community and less degenerate behavior >>33636 if you arent rich enough to bend people to your will then dont even bother dreaming of such a lifestyle. money is everything today. worth more than the word of god to man. that or swallow your heritage and go to a muslim country of something

>>32956 With enough careful convincing you can introduce something your into and get someone else to like it, we do this with our friends all the time. Now, when it comes to changing someone to suit your taste that's more difficult. I'd say it only works on a girl who is younger, respects you as her senior and looks up to you for guidance. Even then you can't completely change her, but you can shape her in the areas where she's inexperienced or unsure about or just introduce her to new stuff and see what sticks. At the end of the day, you can't program someone like a computer. >>32991 True, you can't really change others without showing them your willing to change too. If you let her introduce you to new things, even if your just going along with it, that will boost her trust and confidence in you and make her more likely to accept and consider the stuff your sending her way.

>>33783 So you would say that age matters to a girl and she will would listen to someone who is older and not to someone who is younger? I am currently 35, is that old enough?