North Korea Revolution

Do you want to destroy North Korea, lainnon? Do you want to provoke an uprising against doughboy King Jong Un and get him out of power?

No not really. North Korea hasn't done anything to me and, for all the problems with the Kim regime, the only people who would genuinely benefit from overthrowing them right now would be good 'ol Uncle Sam. Dough boy Kim isn't the one putting his boot on my neck and, if the enemy of my enemy is my friend, what sense is there in making an enemy out of North Korea?

The revolution in North Korea is unnecessary. Communism will result in Socialism. Socialism will result in communism. Communism will result in nothing. Nothing will be better than Communism. The Korean people have nothing else to sacrifice. This is just one war that we have to fight with communism, and one war that we have to win with communism. The capitalist system has killed the Korean people for hundreds of years. The communist system will also kill the Korean people in hundreds of years, if we do not fight for it now, we are ready for the next communist revolution. What do you think? Thank you very much, for your visit and for your kind support of the revolution. Thank you. P.S. Thanks for your support. The revolution is moving.

I am not a KOREAN so I cannot REVOLT and any actions I take against their government are more akin to foreign interference and invasion. NEVERTHELESS one cannot but APPROVE of geoengineering project to relocate South Korea (south korea) further North. Long has it been said that norks are the BEST orks, and north korea best Korea. Obvious solution is a NATIONAL reorientation. I heartily approve of such endeavors and I would take up a shovel when called upon to do my part.

Anyway I will tell you how. Secret of his power lies in controlling the information. That is why he bans, internet, computers, mobile phones and the like. He even runs disruption generators on the save frequencies as South Korean radio stations to prevent people in the north from listening to southern news. Then as he as them completely isolated from any other sources of information, he tells them that they live better than the rest of the world. It sounds something like that 'Sure North Korea does not have much food and quality of life, but we are still better off than south where Americans raped all the women and killed all the man.' There are more lies just like that to justify and explain everything DPRK government does. Since north Koreans do not have access to any other sources of information they cannot know it it is true or not. Therefore If someone can provide them with alternative sources of information. Make sure truth and global information reaches them. Then north Koreans will likely revolt against this DPRK regime and we will win. Other bigger places like China and Russia, may be even Iran, all work similar way. Well their webs of lies and information control are more complex and sophisticated, but fundamentally they are same. FTW lainon

>>32830 > Do you want to destroy North Korea, lainnon? Why?

>>32846 >Why? Any independent nuclear armed state is an obstacle to US/NATO global imperialism.

I don't really care about North Korea and they can stay in their little commie clubhouse waving the sword of Damocles over Seoul until the cows come home for all I care. Unlike their neighbours they aren't moving to my city, buying up all the property, displacing the locals, importing organized crime and propaganda, changing all the signs into their language, and calling US racist for not liking it. If there's anywhere I want an "uprising" or "regime change" it's Canada, so we can fix our problems. But if I can't have that then just drop a bomb on the Three Gorges' dam and let the ensuring soykafstorm sort itself out.

>>32863 Holy based. Death to Communist Xi!

>>32863 lmao are there actually chinese characters on the street signs in Mooseland now

>>32830 This post glows, but How can you start a revolution in a country, where people are brainwashed from the start? They don't know any better. Your revolt isn't gonna get any traction.

>>32870 I'd say all these things about America. "Propaganda" and education is a matter of perspective.

>>32870 I said it already. Make sure truth reach them. For someone like you it is obvious that North Korea is poor, but not for ordinary people inside NK. Bureacrats within regime know the truth of course, so you need to bypass them and get to actual ordinary people. Once they know the truth it will be over for the regime.

>>32874 I guess I need to clarify this line: For someone like you it is obvious that North Korea is poor, but not for ordinary people inside NK. Government tells them South Korea is poorer than North and never let them see any actual images or videos of life in the South. One defector from the north even said that NK government officials tried to convince him that modern skyscrapers he saw in China are not real and just a mirage. They basically tried to convince him that this prosperity Chine has is not real and people there do not live any better than in NK. Imagine what those in KN, who never seen a skyscraper even know about the world. If you manage to provide them with some sort of unrestricted access to internet or any other non-NK-government controlled sourse of information.

Don't tickle my fancy CIA-kun. You know I get shy and really flustered about ideas of global revolution type of thinking.

>>32875 >>32874 >reddit spacing >only replying to posts that further his psyop campaign you're a filthy glowie, arentcha

If skyscrapers are a fuss, pictures of the outside world is enough to show dissent. USB storage smuggled in by the thousands of lavish American lifestyles, where everyone lives like Trump. Where everyone is a supreme leader or a basketball player. Shouldn't take long after that.

>>32875 >For someone like you it is obvious that North Korea is poor Is it though ? Ive never been to north korea, how do I know ? My own governments propoganda which wants me to think they're doing the best things for me? >Imagine what those in KN, who never seen a skyscraper even know about the world. pic related north korea has tall buildings u feggit. I grew up without seeing buildings half as tall as what they have in pyongyang. Ive seen some now but frankly I dont give a soykaf. They're kinda cool, kudos to the builders. fuarrrking glad I don't live in one though. >>32878 oh yes lets just fuarrrking lie to them en masse because. Doesn't matter andat the end of the day they'll be better off right? fuarrrk decit and fuarrrk you. the western empire has lately really been soykaf to all its subjects, asian, african, european and american. North korea might not be the nicest place but it might be more sustainable/resiliant. Probably good to have some countries not caught up in all our messes. Props to the rocketman family for their resiliance, may they never sell out and may their rockets ever strike true.

>>32878 It'll never get to enough people and the ones who see it won't all believe it's real. Besides... they have something like that in Cuba (which I assume is where you got the idea). Turns out it has more of a pressure relieving effect, where people relax a little because they think they are getting away with something. What they really want are the latest sports, HBO and AMC dramas, childrens cartoons and other entertainment that is restricted there. That's enough weekly rebellion to put people back in their places.

Do not listen to this Acid Burn >>32883 anti-quality of life fash. He just wants to make life as hellish for everyone as possible. North Korea is miserable and it spreads its misery throughout the world. If you value quality of life, you should aim to destroy it.

I think the synthesis of the ideologies of both Koreas to unify them would be to make it something like Market Socialist.

> Is it though ? Ive never been to north korea, how do I know ? My own governments propoganda which wants me to think they're doing the best things for me? I’ve been to dandong you can just look over and see how poor they are. I know people Chinese people who used to have visas there. Trust me they’re just poor as a mf’er. I have briefly encountered some North Koreans… extremely short, cute, and at least in that moment they seemed happy. If you want to know just get a visa and a ticket to dandong a lot of the people there have been to north korea. not sure if it’s still the same but there were a lot of north koreans there too. At the least you can have a nice North Korean meal probably.

I don't think there's any hope for North Korea, they've had all the fight bred out of them, like Russia and China, they're essentially domesticated, pet humans now. You couldn't provoke a revolution or a resistance movement without a lot of social engineering that isn't going to happen. If simple starvation won't bring about a revolution, nothing will. They've been broken. North Korea is at this point one big Jonestown, Waco, the Manson gang, Heaven's Gate. It's Ingsoc without Goldstein.

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Above all else, its kinda based how much of their own culture NK has maintain as oppose to the westernised SK

No. If the people of the DPRK want the WPK gone they have to do it themself. Time and time again it has been proven that revolution from outside leads to disaster (the whole middle east, afghanistan, the USSR to some extent)

>>38999 USSR was probably one of the only truly home-grown revolutions of the modern era. Literally every European power, as well as the US, supported the Whites. But yes your general point is correct. Just look at the US.

I will support North Koreans in their revolution if they want to make one. I will not push them into doing it

>>39010 > I will support North Koreans in their revolution if they want to make one. Thank you that’s a great courtesy >I will not push them into doing it That’s a relief I have been so busy lately and I thought without a doubt that it would not be long before lainchan forces me to have a revolution on top of everything else. Maybe some other time. —The glorious Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

>>39000 >home-grown revolutions >Planed and organized by people from central and western Europe >According to the teaching of a German living in London >Basically a CIA coup of the German empire The Afgan communist revolution was home grown. The USSR didn't wanted it to happen to avoid the very predictable war that would come with it. The Russian one was made by the glowies of their time.

Destroy? No, I want them to succeed and nuke your entire gay west coast. That the biologically male population there gets wrecked by dongs one last time so that this whole travesty and its influence on regions who haven't completely lost their mind yet, can finally have an end. So in that sense, godspeed my dear leader! >posted from Red Star OS

>>39021 >>Planed and organized by people from central and western Europe who specifically? Lenin was Russian and had lived in Russia for almost his entire life. All the bigwigs of the communist party were Russian. Can you name a name? The *most* you could say was that he was shipped back to Russia after being exiled (for political agitation). But the German Empire still fought against the reds and supported the whites. They obviously intended for him to make the Russian Empire weaker but they weren't interested in a revolution "boiling over" to their borders... which btw, it very nearly did. >>According to the teaching of a German living in London so?? Marx was long dead by 1905 and Lenin's political interpretation of Marx's philosophy is more influential than Marx himself ever was.

Korea numba won. >posted from ahm yanh ha saiyo OS

>>39024 North Korea is in fact best Korea. Beautiful nature, advanced industry, clean streets, advanced medicine, unique architecture, lovely people. Really just the greatest country. Oh and North Korea’s film arts rival 20th Century Fox. Look at this. Incredible classic anime: https://invidious.fdn.fr/playlist?list=PLjSOqYsgV4mpty4foVEdewlPhIq32RP6K Cutting edge modern animation: https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=qoFlaL-4YQ8 Fantastic spring break location for undisciplined American college students. https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=yhCA5XMVjdc

>do you want to provoke an uprising but of course Agent Deutch >>39023 >lenins interpretation of Marx's philosophy the course of all revolutions are regularly diluted by some historical assumption that it is sole men's leadership who drove it. the reality is that Lenin's theory could not withstand firstly the needful alignment of agrarian and industrial working classes, and secondly the needs of a revolutionary state in a global capitalist economy, and then throughout world wars. the revolutionary work was done for him, and the hammer and sickle forever symbolizes that acceptance of the peasantry as a revolutionary class in its own right, who revolted as nihilists, who had no leader.

>>32870 Anyone who's actually escaped from there confirms that this isn't true though. People didn't cry because KJI died, they cried because they were scared soykafless of getting killed.

>>39023 > Marx was long dead by 1905 and Lenin's political interpretation of Marx's philosophy is more influential than Marx himself ever was. Partially true. Marx denied ever being a Marxist and what we call "Marxism" was simply the way Engels edited and presented his work while adding on his own books and opinions. Lenin is more widely read than Marx because he's easier to read. The vast majority of communists and socialists have never read Marx. They couldn't have if they wanted to because some of his most important work was unfinished or never published or translated or censored by the Soviets.

>>39064 >Marx didn't call himself a marxist He surely was autistic but not that badly. Anyway, what is it with communoids and calling their flavors of ideology after people? Give me a historical socialist figure, be it a dictator or a "revolutionary" and you got yourself another -ism. Titoism, maoism, leninism, trotskyism, corbynism, duginism, some-weird-other-guy-ism. Is this a testament of people like this being just a bunch of sheep in need of a shepherd-ism? Anyway, OP sounds like a glowie who's tasked to test the waters for yet another psyop. It is like kicking dead whales down the beach to be north korean but the west going and "liberating" it won't make things any better thus kindly get lost.

>>32832 No thanks. No ideology that opposes voluntary interactions can ever be considered ethical. North Koreans are being oppressed (South Koreans too, but to a lesser degree), and they deserve their freedom.

>>39078 North Korean citizens are the happiest people in the world. North Korea is a land of beauty and splendor. North Koreans all enjoy several kilograms of high quality food every day.

>>32831 >Human trafficking >Concentration camps >What would we gain

>>39080 we can get slaves and concentration camps anywhere, don't need to invade north korea. besides, the norks have nukes, they could make a decent mess. Why cant we just invade, I don't know, south africa or something. Could get plenty of slaves and concentration camps there, and I'm pretty sure the good people of south africa would by and large appreciate an appropriate amount of regime change.

>>39080 As if the west doesnt have tons of concentration camps.

>>32830 Hell no, I want to live there. I hate America.

>>32830 Anyone got a dl link to the North Korean RedStarOS wallpapers? (also: are they safe to use??)

I want to see their centennial celebration in 2048. It will probably look pretty cool.

>>39000 You may want to open an history book at "WWI". In particular, look at the games of alliances before the war. >USSR was probably one of the only truly home-grown revolution Lenin was sent by the kaiser Wilhelm II to destabilize imperial Russia. Which he did. Remember that the revolution was planned by Russians living in Switzerland, but most of the work was made in Vienna. He organized the defeat of the Russian army, encouraged desertion and got it so popular that at the end, entire trains of soldiers would defect. If it was not for Stalin hijacking it, the plan would have worked. If you want an homegrown revolution, look at the communist revolution of Afghanistan, not not only without the support of the soviet, but against their will. >>32830 (OP) I can see the fertility rate of South Korea and it clearly show which one is superior, contrarily to what immediate, short term material wealth might suggest. >>32885 Explain to me how having another invasion and occupation of Iraq is going to improve my life? Do you mean, carpet bombing and nuking them? Okay, how would it improve my life? >>39089 Then go live in DPKR or recognize that you are a liar.

>>44201 >>44201 >Then go live in DPKR they havent even allowed tourists in since covid

>>44203 We used to have expats who lived there for a few year. There is no way it didn't came back. They simply need the money.

Obvious fedpost but I couldn't care less whatever the Koreans are doing, north or south they can have their brutal dictatorship if they don't want it they should deal themselves or ask the Samsung Koreans for help

So many idiots in this thread, we can even run a one way resettlement program for all religious breeders and progressive leftists at the same time. No liability to us if you die in a Gulag there. Kim will probably take them.

>>44212 Actually it's not real communism because real communism leads to utopia so if everyone is starving and miserable then it is by definition not real communism. Checkmate atheists. >>39000 >USSR was probably one of the only truly home-grown revolutions of the modern era >Literally every European power, as well as the US, supported the Whites. Germany secretly shipped the Bolsheviks into Russia with a train full of gold specifically to start a revolution to destabilize Russia and force them to withdraw from WW1. Saying that the 1917 revolution was "home-grown" is the most historically illiterate claim I've seen in a while. https://roadstothegreatwar-ww1.blogspot.com/2024/12/lenin-and-sealed-train.html

>>44231 Actually if we propose to build heaven/paradise on earth, what would religious people say to that?

>>44231 Does DPKR claim to be communist? AFIK most 'commie' states never claimed to have reached communism.

i believe in the right to national self-determination

>>44231 Bruh, there were massive revolts in Russia prior to the bolsheviks taking over. There was a lot of revolutionary activity going on in the decades leading up to the October Revolution. I mean, what you say may very well be true considering Germany tried to coax Mexico into an alliance via the Zimmerman Telegram, but to say Russia had any sort of stability is severely misinformed. >>44239 There is no such thing as a communist state as communism is a classless and stateless society. According to Marx, socialism is only a transitory state and the productive forces of such societies would naturally evolve into communism.

>>32830 Revolution in North Korea is impossible: there are not enough young people and it's really hard to make any alternative political organizations who can orchestrate the movement there. Coup d'etat, however, seems possible, but why the hell would North Korean general do that? The chances to lose everything are too high. Also, why I am explaining it to you, I am sure you already know it from your courses at Langley

>>44321 According to Marx, a period similar to the French revolution terror, where political medicine (purges) is used en masse. Somehow, commies don't like to mention that point in public. They also don't like to mention why every single one of their revolution has turned into a bloodthirsty dictatorate that could not possibly lead to communism. And they insist that it will work the next time.

>>44425 >most powerful economy in the world >world's leading manufacturer >world leader in peace >possesses the future and heaven's mandate >bloodthirsty dictatorship 笑死

>>44425 Well, I'm not really a Marxist per se, but I do indulge in leftist literature. Marx wasn't some infallible, larger than life character, he was just a philosopher whose ideas had a tremendous impact on human history. From a historical standpoint his contributions are profound. Funnily enough, every successful Marxist revolution arose not from industrial society, but largely agrarian, feudal countries. There is also a massive distinction between the younger, metaphysical Marx and the older, scientific Marx. Personally, I find the more abstract Marx more interesting as he addressed salient, social issues that still resonate today.

>>44428 And another thing, it's not like Marxists are some monolithic entity. A left communist would not support the soviets uncritically. The massive failure of the soviet style socialism ironically left many communists in the dust, such as in Spain. Marcuse, Fromm, etc noted the rise of social and economic repression not only in advanced, capitalist societies, but within nominal socialist countries as well. Plus, I think pigeonholing socialism as simply soviet style marxism is very misleading. Tito wasn't averse to market style reform in yugoslavia, for example. And for better or worse, he managed to reign in ethnic tensions that boiled over when he died and yugoslavia dissolved...and we saw how well that played out in the end. He remains a controversial figure in the left alone for his resistance to Stalinist influence. I am definitely a socialist, but as I pointed out earlier, altogether its a fascinating snapshot of history our parents and grandparents lived through.

>>44426 >Communist stock exchange >Socialist billionaires in bed with the government >Marxist open market economy Communism with capitalistic characteristics. I will ask if can get the same communism here and you will tell me that it isn't real communism, and you would be right on that one. Their economical and social policies are really close to fascism. Now, if you admire them, go there and say something bad about the one party. See how well that end. They sent people in jail for saying covid exist and then they locked them inside and din't let them out even if the building was on fire. >>44428 It is unfortunate that socialists see him as a sort of prophet who wrote the word of God. They never question him and instead interpret his words to make it say what they have decided to find. That's exclusive to religions. >Funnily enough, every successful Marxist revolution arose not from industrial society, but largely agrarian, feudal countries. Correct, and that prove Marx was wrong on his views of history. A society is kept in a pre industrial age by a social structure, this create a socialist revolution which devolve in a dictatorship and once the dictatorship end, at the death of the dictator, the country move to capitalism. Having overcome the obstacles that made capitalism impossible, their economy have the potential to boom. See China as a prime exemple.

>>44429 I don't know his policies well but to me it seem that Tito is one of the many people who only pretended to be red to gain the support of the USSR, like in the third world. You can't blame him for the war and unhappy ending that followed, it find it's root in the time of the Ottoman empire. If anything, he kept everyone safe.

>>44430 >Now, if you admire them, go there and say something bad about the one party. See how well that end. They sent people in jail for saying covid exist and then they locked them inside and din't let them out even if the building was on fire.

>>44431 Tito was at odds with the USSR and Stalin. The only leader directly under the soviets sphere of influence to do so.

>>44449 >>44431 tito also managed to alienate the serb nationalist faction so hard that when they realized the price of britanoamerican aid was collaborating with the commies, they started working with the nazis.

>>44430 capitalism & dictatorship aren't opposites, we have right now countries with both. dictatorship/monarchies are also only "1 person rules" on paper. In reality they have to please everyone they rely on to rule.

>>44430 >Now, if you admire them, go there and say something bad about the one party. See how well that end. They sent people in jail for saying covid exist and then they locked them inside and din't let them out even if the building was on fire. Is this any different from EU countries putting their own citizens in jail for speaking out about immigration policy or the US president trying to put his opposition leader in jail months before the 2024 election? People who sperg about "muh authoritarianism" in Russia and China need to look behind and see what their own governments are doing. >>44455 >capitalism & dictatorship aren't opposites They kind of are though. Broadly speaking capitalism is private ownership of the means of production and socialism is state ownership of the means of production. As a dictator you want all political and economy power centralized under the state. You don't want random college kids to be allowed to start billion dollar companies and fuarrrk up the general order of things.

>>44486 Dictatorship doesn't require socialism. The lesson of soviet union was too much nepotism destroys the country and then your reign is over. So modern way is capitalism for the economy but whoever wins still fears the state monopoly on violence and thus listens to the leader. Basically hands off until we want something is the approach. That aside i think its all superficial. In west you have parties with leaders that rule for 20+ years doing all the soykaf dictators are supposed to be bad for with a clueless public thanks to media failing to adhere to its function informing the public about whats going on and doing just state approved reporting.

maybe government structure doesn't matter, or only matters slightly, and the real problem is getting a good population and preserving it.

>>44508 universal problem is a strong population weakens the rulers control over it. So they do the opposite and weaken the population to solidify their reign which then leads to decline. A weak population is weak to anyone not just the ruler. And so they get overthrown or turn into police states to retain control.

>>44486 Pinochet was a dictator and enforced sweeping capitalist reforms in Chile. Western economists were so enamored with him they gushed much about the "Chilean Miracle." Autocratic governments aren't static, they have evolved along with the times. This is why some of these governments are nominally 'socialist,' but upon closer inspection they are integrated into the world economy and are economically liberal. Hitler was a 'socialist' but was infamous for his repression of socialist activists and even purged the left wing elements from the party ranks. There are many more examples but these two quickly and easily spring to mind.

Isn't the NK government super racist and nationalistic?

>>44512 >Hitler was a 'socialist' but was infamous for his repression of socialist activists No soykaf Coca Cola would target Pepsi. Lenin, Marx, Strasser, Feder they lend a lot from each other on economic terms but ultimately disagreed on who should benefit from the supposed advantages. But just like in any socialist takeover you'd need to clean up your ranks from the useful idiots so Strasser had to go. But Feder was more like a Keynes type person and thus got to be an adviser on fiscal and economic policy. Interesting how that works. But compared to the alternatives to a strongman gov, Pinochet despite his atrocities and being a favorite of the CIA back then, was possibly the best option. Since you will have atrocities either way under authoritarianism, might as well have decent market policies. Other examples are Spain's Franco and Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew. Or also the "South Korean Miracle" which was a heavily managed economy. Problem is, you need to know what you're doing, it's like fuarrrking around on ring 0, not everyone got the right ideas to do that and not always it's the right place to do so. But sometimes it worked out, sometimes you need a strongman to get the wagon out of the mud. Of course international socialists and libertarians hate me and neither want anything to do with me, but they're also taking their political philosophy too much as gospel in a world which is fuzzy and complex. If we really want something lasting, then best case would be to figure out how to get a Marcus Aurelius in power and then replace him with another rather than his idiot son. But until then Starship Troopers might uniroically offer the best model. >>47351 uuhm, based!? The Juche warrior does not fear the glowing men of devilish intent as he knows that defending the Supreme Leader's glory is the highest goal in existence and 3 generations of his relatives will receive white instead of brown rations of rice and also pork!

Destroy, no. Open up? Sure. I find North Korea to be a really interesting country and I listen to their shortwave broadcasts whenever I can and read their English language news (along with some western sources for balance) so I can know what's going on over there.

This doesn't matter,lainon. I wish Koreans will live under one flag one day,united,free and prosperous.

>>47360 autism both koreas are soykafe. In North you work 30 hours at coal mine and get sent to death camp by politburo, in South you work 30 hours at office and you die from overwork because your corpo said so. East Asians are fuarrrking weird for their approach toward communism and capitalism. In both ways you are someones property to slave off for their profit and for smallest inconvenience they will treat you like Chinas emperors treated their people 2000 years ago just because they felt so.

>>47391 so what, that just makes it more interesting&novel. He's not saying he wants to move there its just fascinating but obscured

>>47391 They are really weird,i wish we will get rid of them))))

>>47360 >Open up? Sure. I feel like even the tiny bit they've already been opened up to Western fashion and consumerism has already 'helped' massively to increase the class divide within the DPRK. Western integration and trade almost never means mutual cultural exchange -- it means market death and global homogenization. "Opening up" would mean rapid dismemberment of the social fabric, as foreign capital swallows national industries and replaces collective poverty with stratified consumerism. We've seen this in much of the Middle East. Anything there is to like or admire about the DPRK stems from its insulation from the West. pls don't misread any of this to think I'm some sort of commie

>>47426 commie in denial)))))