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Hear me out, I have a proposal that can be ethical Has anyone ever had sex with a member of their family for any reason that wasn’t a result of pure lust or self gratification (abuse)? Why hasn’t the human race taken an opportunity to have sex with different purposes now that birth control and abortion is widely available? Parents, offspring and children all require affection to keep their bonds in balance, as well as their self image. Is it possible to take these these bonds further in a way that isn’t perverse or obscene? Sexual activity could be an interesting candidate given the proper context, intent, practices, precautions, etc. The positive effects could outweigh the negatives. Sex is highly dopaminergic, satisfying and beneficial to health.

>>29730 >Is it possible to take these these bonds further in a way that isn’t perverse or obscene? This is entirely subjective. I'm not sure if humans are wired in a way that they can bond in the way you are describing by engaging in sexual activity with immediate family members. I can agree that there are benefits to purely recreational sexual activity, and I could even agree that this can happen between immediate family members but I'm not sure if "bonding" in the way I think you're describing can happen.

I have to say, that's a pretty original thought. I'm convinced though that people would find it too degenerate for it ever to become a thing. Is it even possible? Lust is a powerful emotion and not easily contained when provoked, even if two people practice any kind of more intimate activity with a certain intent something else might happen. I'm pretty sure people would end up making more frisky decisions "in the heat of the moment".

boring, old, unoriginal. Cousin marriage is already a thing. Oedipus is long dead. Even the Bible has this stuff. You're just an edgelord, treading where other edgelords have trodden before.

>>29733 Not once did I mention marriage in my post

>Has anyone ever had sex with a member of their family for any reason that wasn’t a result of pure lust or self gratification (abuse)? What kind of reason would it be? I'm having a hard time trying to come up with one. Although, I do share the same sentiment with the following >Why hasn’t the human race taken an opportunity to have sex with different purposes now that birth control and abortion is widely available? Like, Seriously. Let's just have sex just for the sake of that we are bored, for example. We don't need to have sex just for making a family. I think it'd be pretty cool if we we're all chill with that idea.

>>29735 >Like, Seriously. Let's just have sex just for the sake of that we are bored, pretty sure this is also how humans used to make 9 babies in a lifetime as opposed to ~1.8 in the modern age

brain damage is the only way you would find relatives bangable. There is a known mechanism that prevents incest with relatives you grow up with. Its location in the brain is also known due to patients of brain damage who suffered from suddenly finding relatives bangable getting diagnosed. Note even in this instance it doesnt result in sex - because the patient still known its a relative and has memories of them they dont translate the sudden urge to fuarrrk to lets fuarrrk but instead they suffer an alienation syndrome where the inability to merge the impulses makes them thing its an impostor lookalike and not their real relative. >>29736 Actually i think this is more about ability to house&feed. Grandpa still had lots of land and could house & feed 6 kids. Modern people rent a spot in a henpen for people aka apartment complex.

>>29737 I get your point but I think what the OP means is to get past that evolutionary behavior and be able to engage in sexual activity in a recreational manner that can become a bonding exercise without reproduction. >Actually i think this is more about ability to house&feed. Grandpa still had lots of land and could house & feed 6 kids. Modern people rent a spot in a henpen for people aka apartment complex. That's a fair point.

>>29730 >parents, offspring, and children Parents can't ethically have sex with their offspring. That's an authority taking advantage of the someone they've got authority over for sexual gratification. Children do not know enough about it consent. It's rape.

>>29740 >enough about it consent enough about it to consent

>>29738 This is exactly what I mean

Taboos are hard to undo, especially taboos that are deeply rooted from early human evolution.

>>29730 In regards to incest between aunts,uncles,parents to nephew,nieces,children I think that it would require a lot more work to be ethical because then you run into issues with abuse of authority like an earlier anon said. Between siblings or cousins I could see. The ability for people to see themselves reflected in others is vital for relationships and what better person to have sex then someone that has similar features to you both physically as well as life experience. I dont really understand love all that well but I imagine you could really achieve the feeling of one person working in two bodies. I was wondering if this goal could be achieved more efficiently without sex by means of camping together in the wilderness and having to rely on the other for survival. I guess I am curious what your idea of furthering bonds would be as I would think the goal of furthering bonds would be to become closer to acting as a unit that has two forms rather than two autonomous individuals

>>29740 People have sex with step parents nowadays, if a 20 year old man has sex with his 40 year old mother recreationally, that wouldn't be child abuse, it would certainly make him a motherfucker, but I think OP is getting at the idea that what if people accepted it. There used to be a few sensational news articles where people dated (and fuarrrked) their parents because they both couldn't find sucuess in the dating scene and they enjoyed the intimacy with each other, While I suspect an underlying mental disorder to be at the root of it, I can also understand peoples desires for emotional fulfillment in a relationship via sexual intimacy as opposed to just stimulation. but to be honest what kind of gay ass glitterboy fuarrrks his own mum?

It's really common for siblings and probably cousins to experiment with eachother either as little kids or as teens both being different in intent. Former is exploratory and more innocent level of perversness while later often is from boredom and lonliness or even a desire to bond from what I've heard talking to people online who have claimed to have done it and on more rare occasion it's a romantic relationship. So I don't think it's impossible and I don't think it needs discouraging but if you're suggesting it should be encouraged I find this questionable as would be any societally pushed sexual expectation.

What the fuarrrk What the fuarrrk What the fuarrrk What the fuarrrk

>>29761 >It's really common for siblings and probably cousins to experiment with eachother

>>29730 As fuarrrked up as it may sound, I can see this becoming more normalized in the not so distant future. Just look at how normalized sexualization of everything out in the open is now. Daughters bragging about making money on OnlyFans, etc. Mother/Daughter "teams", etc. It's all leading up to more normalization of incest. Especially as you said, birth control and "safe sex" being widespread for more than long enough for the idea to be seeded into the minds of those who are already warped as well as desensitized to porn addiction. Massive adoption of the internet and social media with smartphones will eventually but this into an average person's perspective. I'd say by 2030 you'll start to see this kind of thing more and more discussed. It'll start with a similar approach to the LGBT community in the Amercian military with their "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

While incest is hot in fiction, I'm not attracted to my family. >>29754 >but to be honest what kind of gay ass glitterboy fuarrrks his own mum? Chris Chan

>>30256 >smartphones will lead to the normalization of incest What Qanon Facebook group did you wander in from

we're not all gonna make it bros

>>30256 You're framing the most extreme, outlying examples as being the new norm. Only someone spending too much time on imageboards would think this. People are spending more time getting off in front of screens and less with each other. The age of kids becoming sexually active in meat space has gone up in recent years.

>>29730 Plenty of those benefits, I believe, can be reaped without the actual sexual part. Do you hug your mother? Do you cuddle with your family? Do you give them unconditional love and understanding? I usually hug and cuddle with my mother (not cuddle in a spooning/sexual way, but we lay in the couch (like sitckfigures: >->o o<-< but with some cuddling). I give her head pats. Sometimes she's watching over my not-very-quiet nephew and I see and ask him "Have you gave your grandma a hug? Because she looks like she needs a hug!" then I just hug her for a long time. Even walking on the streets, we hold hands or half hug, some people giving us the look of "that old lady is dating a guy young enough to be her son!". We don't care. But we usually get most of the positive benefits you talk about in your post. sometimes when she has a problem she talks to me and I just listen and agree, even if I actually disagree and think she's being a dumb feminist leftist or whatever, I'd never tell her that. I just give unconditional love and support. She tells me I'm the only person that makes her unwind. The poor thing needs some unwinding. I think most families today miss this kind of thing. Pic unrelated.