Fear of becoming a wizard

If you're expecting this to be a high-quality post you're gonna be disappointed since this is a small vent. For the past several years I have noticed that people around me are increasingly getting involved with relationships and sexual intercourse, some even going as far as completely losing their dignity by selling their body to make money. It's really hard to ignore this because even though I'm well aware that having a girlfriend doesn't fit in my schedule, deep inside there is a little voice begging me to look for a person that I can trust and love. In the past 5 years of my life I've met probably hundreds of girls but not a single one of them ever showed interest nor did I since most of them just seemed like very bland people with no life goals or realistic future wishes. At my current pace I will extremely likely end up as a wizard. Whenever I'm with my friends, no matter how different they are, they can't help but talk about girls which makes me jealous inside, not because they're getting the real thing but because they know how to easily take control of them. Whenever I'm around a girl I have interest in I tend to become beta very easily which immediately turns them off and allows them to take control of me, which usually ends up with them only considering me to be a "friend". What is the cure to satisfy the desire to be loved lainon?

ply your craft and sing your song, then find the girl who sings along and if nobody comes with you at least you made a pleasant tune

Bitches aint nothing but hoes n tricks i got 99 problems but a bitch aint one. Seriously, stop giving a fuarrrk, life is too short to not enjoy it, travel around the world to exotic places and take lots of drugs, or whatever. Stop hanging out with your friends if they make you uncomfortable, look for a new environment you can enjoy genuinely.

"not because they're getting the real thing but because they know how to easily take control of them." if you see this as a control thing and you think you can just control another person like that you should take a step back and rethink how you see these deep and intimate connections.

>>27349 Seriously, listen to >>27355. Additionally, consider going to a psychiatrist. If intimate relationships to you are intrinsically connected to power dynamics either someone really fuarrrked up your education or you might be a genuine sociopath, although I dislike using that word because of how much it was been abused by edgy teens and wannabe psychologists.

>>27357 >relationships >free of power dynamics either youre 12 and this is normal for your age or you need a shrink yourself.

>>27349 All good advice on this thread. I also have one: lower your standards and reach for a larger audience. It is a numbers game until you find a matching person. Another advice: exercise empathy, that will make your relationships last. It seems you read a lot about inform stuff. It is all true until it is not. Look around and see it is not a complete model of the world.

>>27349 Dude, I can practically smell the desperation coming through my screen. 1. Be attractive. You don't need to be some musclebound gym rat. Simply take some care in your appearance and grooming. And for the love of god don't ever wear a captain-america-shield t-shirt. 2. Don't be unattractive. Be able to hold a conversation on different topics that aren't about pop culture or technology. A conversation, not a lecture or debate. And knock off the woe-is-me pity party.

>>27358 Maybe I worded the phrase wrongfully, it is obvious that relationships do involve power dynamics, but to say that it is nothing but power dynamics is the worrying part. Besides that, you probably understood what I meant and are just being petty, if you see nothing wrong with the phrase >not because they're getting the real thing but because they know how to easily take control of them then I direct my advice to you too.

>>27362 Honestly I don't care anymore and wish I didn't write this, the feeling only comes back when I hand around with these assholes under the assumption that I have to force myself to meet them. Real friends will talk about bigger achievements than the amount of chicks they banged that week. >Be able to hold a conversation on different topics that aren't about pop culture or technology. Bold of you to assume that people these days are able to talk about anything other than the media they consume through internet/television.

>>27363 all he is hinting at is regular college life. They get peer pressured to party and fuarrrk, op complains he aint got the balls to act like the guys pushing the dumbos down but also says same time he just wants same balls not same thing. So tldr: reading comprehension.

>>27365 His wording made me think that the sentence was literal (and I'm still not quite convinced it isn't), but if it really isn't maybe I'm the autistic one after all.

>>27364 >Bold of you to assume that people these days are able to talk about anything other than the media they consume through internet/television. I guess I'm just an optimist.

>>27364 Be the change you wanna see. I successfully stopped anyone in my group trying to engage in meme politics by simply pointing out youre doing it again and redirecting to another topic.

>At my current pace I will extremely likely end up as a wizard. What's wrong with that? I'm on the same path. >Whenever I'm with my friends, no matter how different they are, they can't help but talk about girls which makes me jealous inside, not because they're getting the real thing but because they know how to easily take control of them. I don't have friends like that. >What is the cure to satisfy the desire to be loved lainon? I'm loved in my pony-filled delusions. My penis barely stirs from the sight of women, and only sometimes.

Most women will gaslight and fuarrrk with you mentally so while relationships may give you access to sex it will also bring a lot of stress into your life. Sex itself is a cultural rite of passage, if you don't respect your culture or your peers then you won't be as phased. It helps to realize that your view of relationships is idealized and overinflated in importance due to social pressures, so there isn't much for you to be jealous of in reality.

>>27349 I was going that route too because I'm a mentalcel but became an escortcel.

>>27349 just hire a hooker

>>27349 Certain journalists and academics started this battle of the sexes, and now look where we are. wizards and mig tows everywhere. Wonder what the reason for that is

Way i think of it is this: "Who gives a soykaf?" Live your life for yourself and stop sweating being a virgin, life's short enough as is.

>>27954 who are the key players/journalists who started it? I wanna read deeper into it. Give me the rabbit hole

>>27355 I think women always see everything through the lens of control. I'm willing to change my views if I am convinced of the contrary. I think this also explains why they are drawn towards certain politics (that are often about empowering/power/clique-dynamics).

>>28071 Do you see every woman on the planet as the same "creature", or are you willing to concede that there are at least some women that may not fit into your stereotype of what women are like?

>>28070 fish for a retired famous feminist reporter of a popular magazine, i dont care enough about these things to remember but saw an article how she came clean about running a propaganda machine and also admitted to participating in letting the original feminist movement get hijacked by another group as she wrote articles advertising their views while attaching it to feminism.

I turn wizard in two months. I just want to focus on being physically well and comfortable at this point which is challenging to do in burger country because people think you are underweight and will try to micromanage your eating if you are not obese. I could be a content wizard if people would just let me be who I am. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od0X0may504

>>28073 I think women are fundamentally different to men besides the obvious differences. I think the penis/boobs parts are a much more minor difference compared to how their and our brains are wired. There probably are mutant women who aren't stereotypical. It's impossible for me to know. There's some thread on random where some woman made a surprisingly lucid critique of women and then there's of course Esther Villar. This alone would serve as counter-proof to "women are inherently incapable of self-reflection". And once you are cpable of self-reflection, perhaps you can also conquer nature- but this would require a motivation/reason to do so. Currently abusing the system as a woman is the rational thing to do. Even if some women for example are not about control/power, they still could gain both so easily that one almost couldn't blame them - at the end the result is the same. >>28074 goddamn I sure wish you knew the name. Thanks, nevertheless.

>>27349 I only started getting girls when I stopped trying to get girls. Just do your own thing and have fun, and they'll notice. Don't worry about filtering what you say or trying to impress them. When I first realized this I had to mentally take the note to just treat her like I would any other dude. I don't drown in pussy or anything, but I didn't have any trouble finding a girlfriend. She was chasing after me.

It has been remarked by some that many men want their women to be simultaneously virginal and pure, but also sexually uninhibited. I think many women have a similar pattern: they want a man who is simultaneously intelligent and sweet, but who will take charge and fuarrrk their brains out. Both of these contradictory desires lead to much conflict when dating and people who harbor them frequently get hurt and hurt others. Anyway. Unfrtounately there is no cure to the desire for love besides love. I recommend it but I don't know of any reliable way to find it. Good luck!

It's already over for you since you have this sick, warped desperate perspective. It isn't your fault that you became like this, you are the result of society. Better for you to accept that you are defective

>>27349 If you want sex, go to Nevada or somewhere where there are licensed and certified brothels. For love, just try to find a place that you enjoy visiting and try to talk to a girl there. Otherwise grab a girl and mindbreak her.

>>28975 > they want a man who is simultaneously intelligent and sweet, but who will take charge and fuarrrk their brains out. Both of these contradictory desires lead to much conflict There's absolutely nothing contradictory about being both intelligent and sweet and also being able to take charge and give good dick. You think smart, nice people are bad at sex? And that they can't have leadership qualities or dominant traits?

>>28990 "intelligent" should be replaced with "respectful". I do think that those traits are negatively correlated.

The cure to satisfy the desire to be loved is to love. That will make you change in a lot of ways, from stop seeing relationships as power plays, stop seeing getting a gf as some kind of going to the supermarket experience, stop using words like beta and so on.

>>28991 There's nothing disrespectful about satisfying a woman sexually.

If I were in the position that most young men are in today, I'd swallow my pride and find an older woman to be with. Regardless of her appearance, find someone to spend your days with. As long as you're willing to love her and she has a good soul, you'll be rewarded. One of the main reasons why I suggest an older woman flat out, is because you'll want someone who grew up in a world before everyone was tainted by the evil of modernism we see so rampant today. That's your only true chance at this rate.

>>29003 >you'll want someone who grew up in a world before everyone was tainted by the evil of modernism we see so rampant today I've got news for ya kid... the olden days were pretty similar to now.

>>29005 Traditional data says 20% are dumb hoes. There was that navy ship incident where it got delayed 2months unanounced and 20% of the guys came to a knocked up wife. If they didnt delay they would never know and believe it was theirs.

>>27357 OP is fine, he is just very shy because he has never been in the relationship, which makes him jealous, and subconsciously he created a weird cope mechanism. >>27349 Get on a fuarrrking tren and lift heavy soykaf we all gona make it brah

OP here. Funnily enough I lost my virginity a few weeks ago. Pretty funny considering I thought convincing a girl to have sex with you is as difficult as learning Chinese.

>>29026 Congratulations! You won!

>>29009 Read the thread and you'll see he's not fine. Dude's got issues.

>>29054 I mean, yeah, I just tried to be nice.

>>29026 This is a nice post. How did it all happen? I''ve moved for work recently (3 months ago) and have struggled to form real friendships, let alone relationships, but hopefully that will change in the future. Do you have any advice? I was fortunate enough to have friends in school from classes and things but now that I am out of school any intimate connections with people seems impossible. I'm certainly kicking myself at not going for more relationships where the opportunity was available now.

>>29026 Was it fun? Now that youve done what are you going to do next with your life? Was it worth it, im already too old and fuarrrked up for this, but im curious. >>29054 This is lainchan we all got fuarrrking big issues here.

>>29071 Let me know if you figure it out, the only people i know now are coworkers and im not close with any of them especially working soykaf jobs like i do the caliber of people i get to meet isnt very high.

>>27349 I stopped caring a long time ago.

>>27349 >I've met probably hundreds of girls but not a single one of them ever showed interest people respond well to positive attention; if you make it clear youre interested in the things they say, that you care about their wellbeing, that youre available, that youre worthy, eventually one of them will reciprocate. in short, be proactive with establishing connections. things like smiling and eye contact go a long way. obviously there will be a wealth of people who will overlook you before finding one that sees you. >nor did I since most of them just seemed like very bland people with no life goals or realistic future wishes people are full of surprises. ive met homeless graduates and ive met seemingly successful people who simply failed upward. sometimes people hide their passions in fear of being judged or misunderstood. its ironic, because it leads to that very thing. im sure you understand this well, lain. >my friends [...] talk about girls which makes me jealous inside,[...] because they know how to easily take control of them can you rephrase this so i can understand what you mean better? it currently sounds like youre accusing your friends of being manipulative. you dont seem like the type to keep abusive company, so I'd like you to clarify. if this actually is the case, consider making new friends >Whenever I'm around a girl I have interest in I tend to become beta very easily which immediately turns them off and allows them to take control of me, which usually ends up with them only considering me to be a "friend". theres problem something else youre not seeing here. if youre falling into the trap where youre not serving your own best interest, so that you can serve someone else, understand this is not a desirable trait in a partner. i hope you learn to establish boundaries for yourself and fight for the things you want in interpersonal relationships - romantic or otherwise. and remember, its okay to maintain friendships with beautiful and interesting people; they can usually set you up with their attractive friends if you show yourself to be good company. >What is the cure to satisfy the desire to be loved lainon? Love yourself as a first priority, treat the world with love, seek strength, the rest will follow >>27362 >>27364 this is pretty forward, but good advice. things got a lot better for me when i started acting this way. it feels shallow and performative at first, but you can adopt good habits >Bold of you to assume that people these days are able to talk about anything other than the media they consume through internet/television. if you dismiss people as shallow, they wont keep you around long enough to show you their depth. start meeting people at places where people discuss interesting ideas. be culturally and academically active, and make connections in places that dont involve pop media. you get what you pay for. >>28974 dont overlook this, op >>29026 LMAO this is what i get for actually reading the thread. grats. is your life any different? im gonna guess not substantially. the truth is that our culture (im assuming you live in the west) hypes sex up way too much. has your perspective widened at all? do you want this person to stick around, and do they seem like they might? good luck. your posts indicate youre gonna still have hangups about affection and relationships, and itll take work, but we're all worthy. and to anyone else struggling with this kind of thing, i hope you find what youre looking for.

>>28976 >It's already over for you since you have this sick, warped desperate perspective. People's perspective can't change? You should probably think before you write anon.

>>29026 not even going to bother reading the rest of the thread lol, good job OP. Came here to say I used to be like you but I made it too. If you're reading this and you feel like you can't, start with finding peace with yourself because you already have what it takes

I was in your situation at age 22. Then I decided to do something, went to a brothel and lost my virginity to a prostitute. 8 months later I met my first girlfriend on tinder. In those 8 months, I had sex with 5 other prostitutes. I recommend losing your virginity to a prostitute as soon as possible. It may not be the predictable anally retentive answer that you are expecting, but it is what will solve your problem.

Is OP still alive? I have a same fear too as I'm EXTREMELY unattractive. I also don't want to a settle for a used woman, as I'm virgin myself so the situation is even harder. I'm only 19 year old but I'm pretty much 100% certain that I will die virgin.

>>27349 >or the past several years I have noticed that people around me are increasingly getting involved with relationships and sexual intercourse These people are called normalf-a-g-s. Also fuarrrk this filter.

>>30578 oh no, how dare people other than you be happy :( how dare they build meaningful relationships and not spend their lives on soykafty imageboards:(

>>30576 Perhaps if you didn't view them as used you might have better luck. People aren't cars, they don't depreciate like that. People want to be wanted. If there was a woman like you, who waited for her virgin, then got dumped by him, though you and her may share similar values etc, you view her as used. Now what is she to do in your eyes? What would you do? This is removing a very large chunk of women from your dating pool. I recently made a tinder account for laughs and there are a lot of girls looking for a family life who I'm sure have had more than one dick in them. Is it so bad that they too wanted to be loved? >>30578 Well, every organism wants to make more of itself. It's good to be normal. What we call normal people are actually very far from normal. Modern society is not normal. Those of us who see that are the ones who are normal. Now go have a normal human family where everyone is happy and healthy. Didn't you watch Idiocracy?

>>30581 I'm willing to settle for a non virgin for a relationship but not for a marriage with children. I get zero tinder matches and women overall hate me as they find me repulsive so I doubt I will ever have sex.

>>30589 As in, you wouldn't marry a non-virgin with no kids and have kids with her? If so, why? If you mean a girl who already has kids, yeah avoid that. What do you think women find repulsive about you? Also important, what are your pictures and bio like? If you just have a soykafty picture of yourself in the bathroom mirror and a short or no bio, what do you expect? Especially if you're telling them you only want a virgin.

>>30589 everyone I know who uses tinder tells me its terrible. I've never known a happy couple that confessed to meeting on tinder, perhaps some exist but they don't want to admit it, or perhaps they don't exist at all. Half the women I've known who use tinder largely use it because they enjoy making fun of the men they find there to their friends. I don't think tinder is the place you want to be. Go out to bars or something. Try and meet young women at your church, whatever. Tinder is just grinder for fvgs.

>>30591 Agreed on tinder not being a good app, I just used it as an example that on a soykafty hookup app you can still find decent women. Not that they want to talk to us chan type guys but if you put a little bit of work into your appearance and soykaf you can at least get one or two.

We're trained incorrectly. Expectations of romance are skewed to hypersexuality as the standard, and women specifically are more easily manipulated into any cultural norm. Sex is just twofold as potent: 1) Discussion is discouraged, therefore deviation from "norm" isn't likely 2) As stated, women/girls are more likely to seek "norm" Lain sees the feedback loop here. Very powerful social exploit. When two innately compatible individuals meet, it's hard to talk. Our focus is elsewhere, to say the least, let alone on petty conversation about phones or dinner. "Hi, I want to look at your nipples and inspect your vulva." Would probably work as a pickup line, as is the specific, natural inclination, but we're trained to romanticize sex in the most irrelevant fashion. "Let's meet up and talk about everything not currently on both of our minds." What a boner kill. I'm Chad and I'd fuarrrk her right there in the Acme self-checkout with her barcode tatted ass reciprocating the scanner's input as an unassociated SKU. Such is our only nature, but I don't disavow how important the relationship is, only the initial connection; The sexual handshake, a component of our immune systems' recognition of a highly compatible mate, is sexual. The basis for the relationship thereafter is social. And this is important. I've always been single minded. I can't lie very well unless the person in front of me is someone I disrespect and have intent to harm. Yet the expectation of romance is just that: Lie. Deviate. Ignore that she smells like a bag of cookies and focus on meeting her over the smell of Olive Garden spaghetti. And ultimately, that's what she was taught to look for, a man that will ask her to dinner, not a compatible mate, just whoever talks to her first. So she stammers "Have a good day!", pussy dripping at the thought of me owning her, and I move on, hoping she finds what she's looking for.

You sound like a damn wanker. If you want a woman, get good in life and learn how to flirt, approach women etc. If not, then stay alone but at least stop complaining about your need for human affection, it was your CHOICE to be alone, due to your ego you were too afraid of rejection.

>>28070 It was the feminists and it started over a century ago. Protip: they were all jewwish.

Girls are nothing but trouble bro, i cant really help you out tho. Im glad im not a virgin but im not sure that ill ever get laid again. Im not interested in hookups but im also not interested in dating any of these western women since dating seems to be a game of musical chairs to them. Im just trying to learn how to be happy and isolated so ill prolly just buy a dog and do a lot more camping and hiking. The only real advice i can offer you is buy a fleshlight and take care of yourself and then treat women as if they are just a slight inconvenience to you. Basically try to ignore them but always be polite when you do interact girls are kinda like cats if you chase them or pay them any attention then they will go look for some place to hide but if you ignore them while they try to look all cute for you then eventually they will get up in your face so you cant ignore them and then its more a matter of knowing how to touch them the right way if you want them to hang around.

>>30678 Boy you sure narrowed it down for him.

I've come to the realization that my probability of finding a girlfriend has dropped to nil. My job is fully remote, all of my coworkers are men. My friend group has mostly stopped growing and contains only 1 woman. The social groups I participate in are overwhelmingly male (computer science research group, D&D, chess). I went to a web development meetup and found 3 women among 50+ men. At a local biking club, I met 8 men. All the members of a local book club were women...none younger than 60. Taking up hiking, I endeavored to reach the summits of nearby mountains; in each case, gathered round the elevation marker--nothing but men. Becoming a wizard doesn't worry me, it was the most likely outcome. However, the change from "most likely" to "guaranteed" is depressing. One could dream when there was a chance, now there is no chance.

>>27349 I suggest trying to find some freshly legal girls to meet. They probably have already had sex but at least their not loosey goosey droopy bacon strips yet.