I'm from: Poland Ask me anything

Have you ever wanted to ask someone from Polska about their favourite pope? Or maybe you are into bigos and pierogi? Or need protips on how to turn wódka into electricity? As me anything, kurwa.

>>21561 What did your government do to Mike and Nick? Why we never heard of them again after that blunder?

Is there like punks/antifa scene or whatever that is active, or is it just the nazis that shake things up? Do people ever use all the wild cannabis that grows there?

So there was that incident where your gov put all their eggs in one flying basket and the flying basket mysteriously crashed and burned. What do you guys think about that? Did it cause some change in mentality?

>>21565 Punks and antifa are two separate things that only ocassionally intersects. Polish punk and eastern/central European punk scene were historically mostly center-right in spectrum making fun of socialism and communism in their lyrics during communist regime. Being anti facist and anti nazist is not exclusionary with being anticommunist at the same time. >Do people ever use all the wild cannabis that grows there? The only wild cannabies in sense of indian ones that have THC that are grown here are being grown by individuals or mafia. Polish police busts plantations on regular basis. Local native to Poland hemp has almost zero THC in it. Good for ropes and oil you add to vegetable salads. >>21564 Never heard of them. >>21566 It only empirically proven that polish Law and Justice Party (PiS) is bunch of dumbfucks unable to rule the country. But they get reelected recently so I would not call it change in mentality. Also did Ivans had anything to do with that crash - hard to say, they still keep wreckage of that basket in question on their territory which is suspicious as fuarrrk. But we never trusted Ivans to begin with. So not too much to change on that field.

I'm still around in case anyone have more questions

I'm from Poland too. >>21564 Never heard of them >>21566 Smoleńsk is basically polish 9/11 The ruling party constantly use it as a scapegoat for showing them as "the good people", opposing parties say it was a tragedy but the ruling party is overusing the whole situation for political purposes and normal people just meme about it (a lot)

Is catholicism still strong there or are there other growing religious movements? Some catholic countries have festering evangelical strains.

>>21570 Protestantism was in vogue for few centuries, but it was over 300 years ago. Eastern Poland has noticable eastern othodox church present mostly because these are regions that are historicaly ethnic Ukrainian and Belorusian teritories. There is some small Slavic Native Faith movement. The rest is practically unnoticeable.

Do people still read Stanisław Lem? What do you think of the film adaptations of his work? Do you know the death metal band Vader >>21565 I have myself heard anarcho-punk in Polish but can't recall any bands. This was 15-20 years ago though and I've never been there. Bands from Canada always played in Poland for some reason also.

>>21572 Punk was strong in Poland in the '80s. Both "mainline" as well as "gothic rock strain" or how it was called back then "coldwave". As for punk anarchism in Poland - it was about "fuarrrk everything", communism included. There were some small groups of Marxist punks but they were tiny minority and barely anyone get wtf do they want back then. Communist regime was very unhappy about whole punk stuff. Rock was seen as rotten western imperialist stuff. Militsia (commie police in Poland) was notoriously clashing with punks and even beating them with rubber militsia batons when they met punks in smaller groups or individual ones. The same situation was pretty much in whole commie bloc at the time. Punks were often under surveillance of state secret police. Some examples of Polish Punk from the 80s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgYkXp0srpA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxVPUwr0Z3Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAV34_MKp8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxWDgYIgEy4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-l3HvSUlDw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNsp80yJ1Yw some goth DJ from Peru made also this remix of Polish coldwave songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_dYzyoeUk

>>21572 >Do people still read Stanisław Lem? Some does, some does not. >What do you think of the film adaptations of his work? The only adaptation of his book I have seen was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquest_of_Pilot_Pirx It was interesting to me, but I was like a primary schooler back then. I don't recall reading any Pirx related stories myself. I did read some Lem stuff tho. The problem with his work is that the best ones werer written decades ago and when you read them in Polish nowadays they feel very dated and crude. At least that was the case in the '90s. I guess nowadays it is even more problematic. Translations to foreign language have change to polish (no pun intended) a lot of stuff. >Do you know the death metal band Vader I would have to live under the rock my whole live to not know them. One of not too many Death Metal bands I actually enjoy to listen to. I'm more black metal guy myself.

>>21561 If you had to tell three most important facts about modern Poland to a complete noob, what will they be?

does poland really have a nazi/commie problem or is that just western journalists looking for a story?

>>21595 >If you had to tell three most important facts about modern Poland to a complete noob, what will they be? 1. Poland is a developed country 2. Poland is homogeneous racially and nationally, the later slowly changes with more Ukrainians coming here 3. You can't rule over Poland for too long because the ruler will get cancer >>21597 >does poland really have a nazi/commie problem or is that just western journalists looking for a story? Nazi a bit, commie not really. Western journalists are looking for a story.

>>21589 Inquest of Pilot Pirx... interesting. I will look for this. I do remember this character I think.

>>21598 >2. Poland is homogeneous racially and nationally, the later slowly changes with more Ukrainians coming here Except for eastern regions where there is a big presence and in some parts even majority of non Polish ethnicities. Like in Podlaskie Voievodship.

What are the thoughts of the public about korwin? Do you like him?

>>21607 >Korwin He is controversial figure. Korwin is seen as a clown by general publicity and good portion of libertarians. He has been known personage in political medial circus since the very early 90s. He was doing opposition stuff during the '80s like publishing minarchist, pro free market publications. The other part of libertarians for some strange reason see him as kind of messiah despite him having very little in common with libertarianism as he is basically conservatist with some minarchist postulates - in sense he wants state to not say what he has to do in his life unless it does agree with his world view (in these cases he is fine with that). Libertarians who are against him see him as dangerous troyan horse. There are some voices from many parts of different political spectrums that he may be russian agent as he is notorious for his pro Kremlin statements. He is also known for being kind of a stallion as he kept marrying younger women well under his 70's and every time having new children from such marriages. His youngest and oldest child are like 40 something years apart in age.

>>21561 How did Polack jokes start? Are Polish girls easy? Is it difficult to immigrate to Poland if you're white and find a Polish girl to marry?

>>21614 >How did Polack jokes start? like with any other nationality, there gotta be a little bit of truth to it. my take is, however that, as many polacks emigrated in the 90s (despite having no skills or education), they may have created the stereotype of a dumb pole willing to take any job >Are Polish girls easy? as a joke, many say that they're a clash of western (feminism, strong woman) and eastern (pay for my soykaf) values. i personally would rather die than marry one but that's due to my hatred towards this country and language, it may be a good opportunity if you're good looking and from a poorer region (ukraine) looking for an easy way in (not judging btw, go for it). otherwise, meh, probably as "easy" as any european. >Is it difficult to immigrate to Poland if you're white and find a Polish girl to marry? you will have to learn our language which is utterly fuarrrking retarded and hard (apart from phonology, i.e. pronounce as its written in comparison to english). real estate prices are not that bad either if you avoid large cities

>>21618 Polack jokes started around end of XIX century with wave of emigration to the US of freakin A.

How do you feel about foreigners living in Poland?

>>21620 >How do you feel about foreigners living in Poland? Theye are mad. Who sane would like to live here by their own free will?

>tfw you're Polish, but you learn more about Poland from a thread on lainchan than from real-life experience

>>21622 Thats normal. Immigrants should know on average more than natives because when you decide to immigrate you make a real effort to make sure the decision is smart and then you have ontop countries doing stupid quizzes with questions no native bothers to know.

the recent events in Poland - the anti-abortion protests - are the biggest since the end of the soviet grip on the region. i've always been under the impression that Poland is a highly Catholic country which upholds the teachings of the Church. you can almost say that one is not a real Pole if they're not Catholic. the current government also is not fond of the lgbt people. not on good terms with the rest of the EU either. the country keeps getting bad press from where i live. i want to know your thoughts on this. are these protests that bad? are they overblown?

>>21622 I thought about starting a similar thread for where I live then realized, given my particular experiences here and that I spent a lot of my adult life elsewhere, considering the questions people not from here would ask, I'd have to look up half the answers myself.

>>21621 It's sort of like why so many Mexicans want to live in the United States. It is like kicking dead whales down the beach but their homeland is like kicking dead whales down the beach way more. I don't understand why a Frenchie would want to move to Poland though. From an outsider perspective, France is the better country to live in.

>>21621 Poles favorite past time: hating on Poland.

>>21626 >Poland is a highly Catholic country which upholds the teachings of the Church in theory, yes, everyone is "catholic" long as they want to marry or get their child baptized. but i doubt it's as catholic as statistics may lead you to believe. from my rare visits at the church (due to family events for reasons above), i have seen nothing but elderly in here. then again, religion is not about going to x place but holding the values and participation in the social/belonging side of things, even if you're skeptic towards religion as a whole. with which i can roll, even as a non-believer. >you can almost say that one is not a real Pole if they're not Catholic guess im not a real pole, then, lol >the current government also is not fond of the lgbt people true, its apparently the most homophobic country in the european union (not europe). then again, it feels as if they're using said people as a scapegoat for political reasons, a diversion, if you will. after all, they destroyed the separation of powers by undermining the independence of the supreme court by putting their people in charge and harassing judges with opposing political beliefs. >not on good terms with the rest of the EU either yup, how democratic a country is goes hand-in-hand with how many funds it gets, apparently if we veto (dunno the word) the EU's accusation of polands being undemocratic, we will get no money whatsoever from the pandemic/covid fund, which the current party will certainly do. the whole polexit term is the most hilarious to me, theres no way they genuinely believe that poland is NOT a financial strain on the eu (rather than a major player) and that other countries will try to stop us (as much as they did with brits). probably more of take-or-leave-it situation, if you ask me. i would rather stay in the eu, because russia has been the single biggest cause of misery for us across history, particularly during the communism era, it's a matter of "lesser evil". >the country keeps getting bad press from where i live good, make people aware of who was democratically elected here (though the fact that you CAN vote doesnt mean its democratic, see belarus for example) >are these protests that bad? are they overblown? people are really angry because its easy to understand, unlike the supreme court situation i mentioned earlier, about which nobody cared. even if you're a man, you can imagine your daughter having to bear the child of a rapist, so pretty much everyones onboard. i personally believe abortion should be completely legal in all cases long as the person pays out of their pocket, which is what czech republic does and where anyone here goes if they need one. if you don't have enough money for that, is like kicking dead whales down the beach to be you!

>>21639 As I understand it the Catholic Church everywhere counts baptism as membership. If your parents got you baptized and you never set foot in church again, you are listed on their rolls. So in any country when they say they have so many million Catholics or such a percentage of the population, this is what they are counting. Not active members or even people who believe.

>>21640 Yea, every toddler is count as a catholic even if they later declare apostasy as adults. The only way to get excluded from the church (intentionally lower case) is to get excommunicated.

>>21639 >then again, religion is not about going to x place but holding the values and participation in the social/belonging side of things, even if you're skeptic towards religion as a whole. agreed. i see little reason for going to mass in the current times. apart from the social aspect, which is present only if the local community is religious, not just the elderly that you mentioned. when communities started getting global, the local ones almost completely disappear. >it feels as if they're using said people as a scapegoat for political reasons looks like it's a pretty common characteristic of right-leaning governments. or actually any kind of government is prone to that if things don't go their way i believe. on the other hand these leftist (for lack of a better word) movements make the political situation unstable. people get very polarised about these matters... and when people within a country start fighting between themselves, for me the question always is: who benefits from that? >i would rather stay in the eu, because russia has been the single biggest cause of misery for us across history fully agreed. leaving the eu is total nonsense, especially for a country like Poland. because you just cannot be on your own in this part of Europe. if you're not with the EU, inevitably you fall into the Russian influence. but then again the EU is very dependent energetically from Russia (good example is the Nord Stream), and they're pretty reluctant to have closer relations with the USA. >i personally believe abortion should be completely legal in all cases long as the person pays out of their pocket i'm pretty torn on this. completely legal abortion means mothers get to basically murder their unborn children provided they pay for it. on the other hand in which cases abortions can happen? i suppose in cases of rape or serious deformity or illness of the child? if i'm not mistaken the current law in Poland allows abortion in such cases. so they want to completely ban them? in such case your given example is completely outrageous if one has to bears a rapists child. but abortion in the end is murder in my book...

>>21645 >if i'm not mistaken the current law in Poland allows abortion in such cases. No, they illegally derezzed abortion in these cases recently, that's what the protests are about.

>>21645 >abortion means mothers get to basically murder their unborn children We murder animals without a second thought. What makes you think that humans are any better than other animals? The fetal brain only begins to develop during the third week of gestation. "The baby" has no cognition for a long time, it's less alive and arguably less human than animals we exploit and consume daily. One step furher and you'd be saying that we murder our unborn children by busting a nut in a hygienic tissue.

>>21649 The extent to which some people overvalue "life" can be downright schizophrenic. It's weirder to see that attitude from some religious people who would unironically see masturbation as murder but then support executions (at least here in the US). Personally I'm not against abortion or the death penalty, so the cognitive dissonance they exhibit is bizarre. Sometimes life isn't worth it.

>>21637 >I don't understand why a Frenchie would want to move to Poland though. From an outsider perspective, France is the better country to live in. You might should visit both first. Get a good healthy dose of Paris Syndrome before you commit.

>>21653 Oh no, black people! As an American, I've never seen such things!

>>21651 This cuts both ways. More people overvalue each individual's human life and consider suffering and death the greatest evil. Yet these views coincide are held together with pro-abortion ones. The pro-abortion movement (and associated ideologies) only make sense as a narcissistic self-centered view: hedonism is the greatest virtue, there should be no consequences for my actions, but since I have no worth of my own then I must preach that all humans are equal and valuable so that I am included. >>21649 So are babies for quite a while after they are born. Are you ok with murdering them too if they are inconvenient? Same for those who are mentally handicapped? Murder of animals is also becoming less acceptable and often shifted out of the public eye.

>>21649 >We murder animals without a second thought. What makes you think that humans are any better than other animals? What does killing of animals for our consumption have to do with abortions? The former is for human consumption and survival, the latter is for relieving of unwanted and unplanned responsibility. What do you mean by "better"? >"The baby" has no cognition for a long time, it's less alive and arguably less human than animals we exploit and consume daily. Reasonable stance. apparently we have to draw a line which defines whether it is murder or not. or can we do it in the first place? I do not get the comparison to animals. are fetuses and grown animals comparable? of course animals are more "human" (conscious i think is a better word) than fetuses. so in this materialistic view murder of animals seems less moral than murder of fetuses. >>21651 >The extent to which some people overvalue "life" can be downright schizophrenic. It's weirder to see that attitude from some religious people who would unironically see masturbation as murder but then support executions (at least here in the US). if you're talking about me i was just trying to view this from different points of view. hence the apparent religious scent in my writing. the cognitive dissonance you mentioned gets more likely when people take up these radical opinions. they require much broader consistency. on the other hand the death penalty is a punishment, while abortion is to be seen as a saving grace from further suffering.

>>21561 >Have you ever wanted to ask someone from Polska…? yes why do "Polish thread about Poland" is such a common event on imageboards?

>>21655 The most common systems of ethics are currently built typically along few axis: - life as highest value - hapiness as highes value - quality of life as highest value Modern European Christianity typically values life (which was not a case back in history) no matter what. Atheists trying (and mostly failing IMHO) to form "objective secular ethics" lend toward happiness. Some other streams also introduce quality and other values as basis. Which means many of such systems of ethics are in clash with each other on many topics. Typically in corner cases. For example aborting Down syndrome is typically OK for people following quality of life based ethics system. That may not be the case for people following happiness based ethic system. And absolutely is not thing to consider for people following life as highest value ethics. On basis of happiness ethics one can say it's OK to abort fetus of potentially highly intelligent person - as intelligent person may be more prone to being unhappy and depressed etc. Examples can be enumerated further.

>>21657 poles are the most butthurt people on international imageboards, often making threads about being victims.

>>21656 >>21655 What... so the most irresponsible people, least able to plan for the future, should have to keep their babies and become parents? I can see a flaw or two.

>>21656 >if you're talking about me i was just trying to view this from different points of view. hence the apparent religious scent in my writing I wasn't talking about you, but I'm just pointing out how sometimes people don't consider having consitent ethics.

>>21687 Other lainon here. I yet have to see a single example of consistent ethics.

A Polish coworker and Irish coworker of mine came to the conclusion they are essentially the same country. Do you also see such similarities?

>>21694 I often see comparisons of similarities between Poles and Leipreachán. But hard to say how much of sense it has.

siema

I heard something about strong catholic values and stuff somehow forbidding the punishment of children, and this causing them to be the wild animals you encounter in video games. How widespread/true is this?

>>21704 Not at all, any doubts or concerns about corporal punishment are actually relatively fresh idea in Poland. In fact, some members of religious and (for a lack of better word) conservative political factions, that have been on the rise for several years now, argue sometimes that parents have inalienable right to beat their children as a punishment. I would hazard a guess, that you're still more likely to get a little bit roughed up in your life by Polish father or mother than you would be anywhere in English speaking world, outside council estate or trailer park.

>>21709 I would say good portion of people who grew up in '90s experienced corporal punishment. They don't even have to be from religious families. It was general norm.

>>21561 Give me one good reason why I should visit your dunghole?

>>25629 Not OP, but good & cheap vodka + sausage. That's about it.

>>21561 What are we going to do about the Germanic threat Slav-bro? Also did you read the National Bolshevik manifesto? Because you should.

>>25631 Tourist Attractions? Also negated for sage.

Looking through this thread I don't particularly care about supreme courts or abortion. My own take is that it's okay to love Catholics, just so long as you know that they'll let you down. It's an odd position to be in. If you're Irish or Polish, I can really love you and I can want to be around you, but I can not trust in you. That is the strange duality I've arrived at over the years. It's such a shame because Polish people really get to my heart the way they talk and act. They aren't very up front with confessing their feelings and their talking is almost laconic. What it means is that I need to read between the lines and watch for their little subtleties in order to start really pushing their buttons. I know it doesn't sound very affectionate that way. But to me it's really sweet and I like it. It's a tremendous shame because I expect to get bent over and shafted if I try to do any deals with them. You get Pikey levels of trickery if you try to attempt this. They'll do you good work, sure, but the one day you really need them is the day they'll decide to let you down. Love them but keep them an arm's length away. It's a shame and a contradiction but that's the way it must be.

Why does everyone's breath stink in Poland? Is it the beets or the Thanksgiving fish? Or is it because your country got soykaf on its entire existence? Or the only way to get by is sucking ass as a country, isn't it?

>>29310 Oh, we gladly welcome a Russian poster in this thread.

How religious are average poles ?

> As me anything, kurwa. what did you say, person whose company I enjoy?

>>21561 do u have black people

why the last 5 polish dudes I talked with liked smegma futa porn?

siema kurwa, jak się trzymasz w naszej ukochanej Polsce?

>>21561 How do you turn vodka into electricity?

>>25643 >National Bolshevik You are supposed to be 18+ to post here.

>>25643 Буквально идеология-мем.