Shadow Work

So, psychologist Carl Jung talked about the concept of "working with the shadow", which means approaching the unconscious to make oneself conscious of (some of) its content. This process of self-analysis or self-introspection brings about realizations. This thread is for sharing those realizations. I got the thread's idea from this post: >>/drug/4907 >I began to think that the guy hated me, and saw me in a terrible light despite there not really being any indication of that. I shared this with him and as always got very little feedback, but what I figured out on my own was that without absolute reassurance that somebody feels positively about me, I project the way that my parents saw/treated me onto other people. This guy took that knowledge from his shadow, in jungian terms, and made it conscious. Reading other people's progress can help one's progress, so do you want to share some of your own shadow-work realizations? I'll share some of mine if the thread gets interesting and it's not just me blogposting.

>>19146 Damien Echols talks about this on his channel. He talks about meditating and seeing scary soykaf. i would personally say avoid doing it. who really cares about deeper understandings of ourselves anyway? it's not like we are going to be here for ever in these bodies. It's kinda like reading the owners manual of your car, who cares how exactly it works just as long as it gets you where you need to go. your wont last forever and neither will your body. im telling ya it's all futile. the only thing we really need to do on this planet is admire the futility of our existence and try to live in equilibrium with the planet.

the more I introspect the more convinced I am that I'm really nothing more than a bag of bones with some flesh and a tiny consciousness imagining it is in charge of the whole shebang. Really nothing more than a fuarrrking ape. And yet I can do stuff with computers and I'm apparently a smarty pants? Damned if I know.

>>19146 I realized, after much meditation and other stuff, that my mind projects my anxieties onto others. In reality, most people don't give a hoot about you. In fact, they probably don't even percieve you, much less have negative thoughts about your existence. That was a freeing moment for me. To realize that you're just a passing shadow to most people.

>>19269 >>19268 Being a nihilistic douchebag isn't trendy anymore, cool guys are all about positive and hopeful thinking. There's no way there's nothing after death, i'm pretty sure we go and do soykaf somewhere, or at least our consciousness does.

>>19282 ok terence mckenna, please explain how and why you're so sure ? full blown optimism means you're either a complete idiot or ate one too many sacred mushrooms

>>19282 >Being a nihilistic douchebag isn't trendy anymore, cool guys are all about positive and hopeful thinking. There's no way there's nothing after death, i'm pretty sure we go and do soykaf somewhere, or at least our consciousness does. what's so unpositive and unhopeful about nihilism? I find it comforting to know that one day I'll be dead and gone. Sure beats constantly worrying about some kind of afterlife, instead I get to focus on life. Anywho I'm not nihilist. In fact I'm a deeply religious man. My goddess just happens to be mostly silent about these supposed "big questions" and other such sensible buffoonery. "consciousness" is an idea that falls apart when you look in to it. Snap your fingers; the event happened almost half a second before you were consciously aware of it. You only had the illusion that your conscious mind was in charge, in reality there are layers and layers below consciousness that do the real thinking. This "shadow work" stuff is just the process of realizing your consciousness' place in this scheme and getting in on it.

>>19294 Cuz everything we are and we do is so fleeting and ephemeral in the grand scheme of things, if we are concious about everything around us then it must mean that our ego keeps existing so as to feel that we are alive. I think i'm not making sense but it seems very logical to me i guess ? >>19299 >Anywho I'm not nihilist. In fact I'm a deeply religious man. My goddess just happens to be mostly silent about these supposed "big questions" and other such sensible buffoonery. Please elaborte on that, i'm genuinely interested.

>>19314 http://principiadiscordia.com/book/1.php

>>19316 does that have anything to do with Robert Anton Wilson ?

>>19314 we're certainly not conscious of everything, why would say that ? we only experience a small fraction of reality. maybe consciousness is a accident, that do me is the greatest mystery.. Terence's theory is that mushrooms woke humans up,also the original sin in the bible might be an allegory of the waking of humankind.. and to think our egos or consciousness should live forever is really distressing, I do not see the positive to that. >>19316 thanks for that link, I think you reach this philosophy after too much intellectual and ideological fapping, and realize it's all absurd

>>19320 indeed! >>19335 >I think you reach this philosophy after too much intellectual and ideological fapping, and realize it's all absurd Maybe. I didn't really get it until I started taking hallucinogenic drugs and my vapid atheism suddenly seemed inadequate, but so too did the dogmatism and empty promises of religion and "spirituality". Hence Discordianism. >Terence's theory is that mushrooms woke humans up, also the original sin in the bible might be an allegory of the waking of humankind.. honestly, having gotten familiar with psilocybin and a certain ergoline, it's hard not to entertain this theory at one point or another. It's fun to imagine.

>>19341 sure it's fun to imagine, listening to his drawn out witty monologues is total brain candy >>19146 going back the subject of this thread, I find these kinds of realizations to be few and far between, regrettably. sometimes on drugs you have an epiphany, but then it's usually just the chemicals. seems to me this kind of work is best done under supervision with a jungian psychanalist no ?

>>19371 >sometimes on drugs you have an epiphany, but then it's usually just the chemicals. Calr Jung used psychedelics with Albert Hoffman, they respected each other greatly

>>19372 I don't where you got this info, but Hoffman said in an interwiew with Horowitz that he had no contact with Jung, except once at a psychiatrist' congress... McKenna mentions this too somewhere : > did one side of Vienna know what the other side was doing ? " also Jung, to my knowledge, warned about psychedelics, as they unleashed subconscious information that may be too difficult to deal with, as we are already, at least most of us, struggling with mundane stuff

>>19373 I realize it seems as if I might be contradicting myself, however these "epiphanies" in my case were not on psychedelics, rather other stimulants.. I do think psychedelics release valuable information.

>>19373 my apologies, I got Carl Jung mixed up with Ernst Junger. https://maps.org/images/pdf/books/lsdmyproblemchild.pdf