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Is it possible to drop all forms of social media and still have a social life? I feel like if i delete Instagram, Facebook and Whatsapp i'll loose all my friends... And there's no way i could convince them to use something like IRC. how do you guys find the balance between staying private/not putting up with social media's effects on the human brain while still having close friends?

>Facebook and Whatsapp Its really troubling that those two are quasi standard replacements for the soykafty telephone system despite technology being available for that and there being alternative systems but as usual the herd keeps running towards the cliff. I have irl friends but i dont keep in touch and to be honest i dont want to seeing as how messed up things are in general. My advice would be to not bother, but thats just me and thats why im kinda fuarrrked.

>>16232 My advice would be to not bother What do you mean with not bothering? just embracing the botnet or cutting everyone off for the sake of privacy and mental wellbeing?

I have removed all social from my phone except for whatsapp. I just use it to comunícate at a very basic level with fam and friends to organice points of encounters. I have a very active social life and try to use telegram as much as I can instead of WA. Some time ppl ask me why I lack insta or facebook and I just tell them that when I had I did use them, and they are all ok with it (don't think Im a freak) I try to be a very talkative and charismatic person when I am physically with them, so they understand that when Im on the phone Im a poker face, they know its just me on the medias. "I dont use them" Try to maintain the relationship, block access to location and share delicate info. And get beers frequently, very.

>Is it possible to drop all forms of social media and still have a social life? Yes. >I feel like if i delete Instagram, Facebook and Whatsapp i'll loose all my friends... If they'd drop you, just because you deleted social cancer, then they're not your friends. >And there's no way i could convince them to use something like IRC Telling them Zuck Markerberg supports censorship and both far-right media and Israel isn't enough? Try GNU Jami. Devs have hard times fixing bugs and NATs are problematic, but they're going to add group chat soon. I deleted all forms of social media and people are still willing to help me by sending SMSes and are going out with me. Sometimes I'm lonely, because people have no time for me, but they didn't have it when I had faceberg anyway. Arguments for you: https://stallman.org/facebook.html

>>16235 >Telling them Zuck Markerberg supports censorship and both far-right media and Israel isn't enough? No it's not. You underestimate how much people take convenience over privacy. As much as i'm an advocate for free/libre software, convincing people to use something like GNU Jami isn't something that's gonna happen any time soon. I care about privacy and FOSS, but you really think my aunt does?

I did like 10 years ago, and as it turns out I like being a pariah. I'm also 30+ and a veteran, so society as a general rule has lower expectations for my sociability anyway. (not that I care, but people never questioned my disappearance which I found convenient) I'll do things with my SO and her family, shoot the soykaf with whoever is still left on imageboards... that's it.

Years ago I created my one of my parents a facebook account, they was strongly against it even for someone their age, they complained about their privacy. I of course said that they being paranoid about nothing and that everything was fine. Skip ahead to a few years and I totally forgot about their facebook account (them included) until they started to get phone calls from family members telling them that someone had instructed them to send thousand of dollars to them in support and impersonating as them, and of course no one fell for it but it certainly made me think twice about social media, I want to log in into their facebook account but it's almost impossible to now I think about it. It's not that I don't want to leave, it's just that I can't. Everything you do is saved and archived.

>>16239 It's a real bitch when you realize that your parents were right all along while you were young and thought you were smart for some reason.

>>16240 They still are right about things. I feel dumber and dumber everyday

>>16241 Oh yeah. Absolutely. Every year brings more stuff that I should've listened to them on instead of inviting hubris with my own stubborn, inexperienced arrogance. Which, y'know—some old people are legitimate dumbasses, they're human too. But on average one should listen to their elders from time to time, it's a good idea. The logic is sound. They mostly did all the same ѕһіt, and like most people their intentions are good. They've done everything longer, seen the consequences, and had time to reflect and understand. Obviously the world is changing a lot faster now, so their experiences don't always line up perfectly. But like the example we just used with facebook: even for some new developments out of left field, their instincts are good. Although now that this gargantuan corporate advertiser-driven social media thing has been rammed through... a lot of them are the most hopelessly addicted. The mind poison still works just fine once the bastards get a foot in the door. https://www.calnewport.com/blog/2020/02/29/top-economists-study-what-happens-when-you-stop-using-facebook/ >The researchers report this effect to be around 25-40% of the effect typically attributed to participating in therapy. It's terrible for your mental health. I'm honestly trying to stop it with these imageboards too. But getting away from the giants was a great help. Just do it if you are able; it's 100% well worth it. Facebook, twitter, google, and amazon should be taken apart down to the bare nuts, bolts, and transistors and all of it shoveled into the flames.

I deleted Instagram, with a fairly average activeness for my age (few hundred followers), only one person asked (close friend cos he thought something bad had happened with me and my partner), drop that soykaf immediately there is zero point. It was actually extremely difficult to delete my account, I looked online and other people were having the same issues, so it didn't seem to be a bug, looks like they actively make it really awkward to delete, just made me want to get rid of it more though. Facebook is a little more awkward, I cannot shake It yet, hopefully in the future. To minimise it's usage just get people to text you if they need you, Signal seems to be pretty normal person-friendly too. I'm currently trying no phone though, the constant distraction is really bad for my mental health and I've known it for a while but it's so difficult when you're hooked on constant stimulus.

I only use texting + whatsapp with friends. And the cancerous dating apps when I want sex or dating. I have a Facebook account I log into once every three months. I could delete it, but it's occasionally useful for events. The best way to have a social life is to be in situations where you can meet likeminded people. This could be in classes you take, but it could also be at local music events, political meetings, etc.

>>16243 I've had a few no-phone or dumbphone phases that last a couple years. These days it seems like I go two years on and then at least one year off. I really think that constant contact (or even the potential of constant contact) is really terrible for people's freedom and psychology and individuality. Like even if nobody ever calls you. It's not good to have the world in your pocket, as it turns out. https://hackaday.io/project/170147-esp32-opensource-pager Kind of interested to see where this goes, although he posts absolutely zero specifics and a link to a dead website so it kind of screams vaporware to me. However I might just jack the LoRa module he uses and fiddle with one myself. Would be cool to sidestep the pwned cellular protocol and all the proprietary stacks that involves and just send encrypted text directly over a low-bitrate LoRa radio mesh network. And it would not lead to internet bloat in your pocket because of the aforementioned bitrate. Of course convincing literally anyone else to carry one would kill that project in the cradle. Maybe I could make some kind of LoRa bridge...

People are way dumb, drop social media for your own sake: https://youtu.be/ssnY6U0CimU?t=26

I've never had any social media and I have a social life. I mostly use SMS and I pressure people to use Signal as much as possible. You have to prioritize face-to-face interactions. Don't just hope that other people will reach out to you, ask them.

>>16234 That is basically what I did too. I would use other platforms if the users were there but I don't want to go to the trouble of convincing the whole society to change apps. I do really well without any social media apps, I just stick to the instant messaging to keep in contact with friends.

>>16242 Was reading your link and found this in the comments https://minimaltube.itch.io/mt Looks very useful, I relate to what he was saying about YouTube being the hardest reliance to break since it is actually quite a useful resource, but it's so awful to have all the soykaf filing the screen fighting for your attention. YouTube-dl might also be of interest to some out there too, it's really invaluable as a productivity tool

>>16242 Yep, trying to disconnect is big challenge for me. I honestly wanna stop browsing imageboards because of google captcha and the obvious data mining. It's getting insane in there

>>16249 I personally use https://invidio.us since the youtube website is bloated and lags for me. You can import your subscription and play it from invidio, totally recommend.

Are linux/open source phones better than propriety phones?

>>16254 That depends, what exactly are you looking for in a phone? For texting+calls, browsing the internet, running some desktop applications, and maybe a few FOSS Messenger frontends? Maybe in about a year or so. For using mainstream apps? Don't even bother. I highly doubt Anbox will run any app at a usable speed even if they manage to implement it properly.

>>16255 I'm thinking of just having two phones, one is for my apps, videos and pictures that I'll mostly use in my house, and the other is for going out in public places. How hard is it to import let's say android apps into linux? i'd image i'd be easy if the codes are open sourced

>>16256 Considering Android runs a heavily modified Linux kernel, it's very difficult to get the Android app to run on a GNU/Linux phone like the PinePhone and Librem 5. Even if an app has open sourced their code, there isn't enough interest and market share for most devs to put their time and effort into making a whole new port for a different platform which very few people use. That's why I would say only some FOSS Messenger frontends would run on any of these GNU/Linux phones. As for your idea of having two phones, I'd suggest buying a KaiOS device for outdoor use. It's a brick phone with 4G connectivity and can atleast run some Social Media apps like Telegram, WhatsApp and Facebook. Try picking one supported by the Bananahackers community, if you want to install 3rd party software and have root access. Since KaiOS is (mostly) Firefox OS, creating web applications should be (relatively) easy if the service has a web client. Oh yeah and you can emulate a GBA if that interests you. I used a KaiOS device for about a week or so. If you'd like I can tell you about my experience, but I'd recommend doing your research first to understand the platform itself

>>16231 >I feel like if i delete Instagram, Facebook and Whatsapp I'll loose all my friends. You will. Do you really care? I caved in and got WhatsApp to message with normal people, but nothing changed in my life except I now have WhatsApp on my phone and did some small talk. I'm going to wait till it all dies out and remove the app again.

>>16231 I gave all my Facebook friends my email address so that they can exchange emails with me anytime. I barely interacted with anyone on Facebook especially because of constant month-long bans for posts getting flagged for "H8 SPEECH!!!" so I am glad I nuked my account. I immediately felt better. The only social media I use is Discord and I don't use my real name obviously or even give any detail about my personal life. It is simply 4chan Part 2 for me with sharing jokes, getting into small debates, and exchanging advice and recommendations for entertainment or books. I may start a Telegram account for simple message sharing. Of course, I am an introvert so social life does not mean anything to me

They aren't your genuine friends if keeping up with them requires proprietary software.

Those people aren't worth it. Cut them off. Having no friends is fine is better than having to deal with plebs. Facebook and IG etc are incredibly toxic to the mind

>>16257 I'm interested. Where should I go to learn about these things, and what's the price range I'm looking at?

>>16273 I deleted mine about a year ago. It will make you feel better mentally. The constant dinging and the expectation other people have for you to constantly answer their every message caused an incredible amount of stress for me that I didn't understand until I cut it out of my life. I finally realized that I only really wanted to interact with one or two people on the entire site, and they have my phone number anyway. We're not meant to be so overly-social like these apps force us to be. Your private time is a very important thing, or it is for me, and these things force you to be in constant contact with others all the time. It made me really paranoid and unhealthy.

LOSE its spelt LOSE!! Im starting to think spelling it "loose" is just some "Im pretending to be retarded" meme. I see it spelt like this every fuarrrking day!!!

>>16277 I'm not a genuine friend if I require people to use free software just so that I keep contact with them.

>>16242 >>16242 i see your point, but i don't like how many people pointing out the negative psychological effects of fac-e3book (including studies) assume full-on usage. most people i know use it as a messaging app + bulletin board for organizing their irl behavior. they don't share their lives, they don't obsessively scroll an infinite feed, they don't tremble for likes and they don't ruin their attention spans by checking it every 5 minutes. they just have short conversations where they fix details on where to meet, what to bring, a quick "what's up", or discuss school stuff + exchange relevant material, and maybe make short posts with relevant info in groups. most of the adverse psychological effects people bring up in general barely apply to them. post blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filterpost blocked by filter @appleman seriously these filters are annoying

This is highly dependent on where you live, how old you are and what sort of social activity you prefer. For example if you can walk to the pub or cafe on the corner and find a random but familiar face on a whim, you're good. If you live in the suburbs and need to travel downtown to see live music or something on the weekends, forget it. I can't even look up music listings on the web anymore. They simply do not exist outside of facetwitter. I didn't quit social media; I simply never had any.

>>16307 ...or ...people frequently hit the same key more than they intend to and their spellcheck doesn't pick it up because it's still a word.

I just dropped my last two accounts. Only logins I got now are for stuff like archive.org and a work related gmail. Only ever touch my steam\gog accounts to install something (I use cracks so I don't have to keep that garbage installed) Hanging out here until the site dies, otherwise I'm an ehobo... just like back in the mid 90s to early 00s really. Feels kinda good actually.

I dropped all social media when it became apparent that it's a space dedicated to sperging out about stupid soykaf. Faceberg > my politics are better than yours, im virtuous Twattar > i dox you for calling me "he". I'm clearly a woman because I shoot up estrogen Other > durr hurr durrrr I'm a flaming ƒaggot Just unplug, there's no "social" benefit to staying on.

Do gaming networks count? I stayed mostly connected to irl friends by logging into lol/battlenet/... knowing what my irl friends played. I realize this is still tracked but its obviously also devoid of junk data. If you chat with someone over a game its pure chat. For those who dont play anything i simply kept the landline and remained always open to randomly drop by.

>>16303 Check out the Bananahackers community on Google Forums and their website. As for the price range I'd say it would be around 50-200$ US. It really isn't intended for intense computing and it's ideal if you want to get away from social media without isolating yourself entirely

>>16231 I don't have any friends (e-friends don't count) or social media so I can't comment. I think you could easily convince people to use matrix though, host the server from your home or rent a vps. I think the sm*rtphone clients are on *appstores? I don't really know because I don't really use my sm*rtphone or have an *pp store on it, but I do know there are plenty of matrix clients.

>>16231 >while still having close friends? I don't have any friends. If I created a social media.. Do you think I would have friends as a result? I created a Twitter one time to get a discount for following some company account. I tried to tweet a few times, but nobody replied. I assumed social media couldn't help me after that.

Just as personal comment: Even when I was in college and was at my peak of social engagement I rarely used Facebook/Instashit. I deleted it because the platform started to feed me fuarrrking outright disturbing or outright ultra violent content (non ironically I feel the Chans have a more friendly environment than Facebook) . At first I thought It would be useful to know about the reality of the world, but in the end I decided to uninstall because it was just too fuarrrking toxic. >>16231 Yes it is possible and I think op knows this if he were to really examine what he knows. People socialized for millions of years without the need soykaf platforms like Facebook. All these platforms/apps do nowadays is to feed and poison the minds of people with bullshit and government propaganda. However, to find friends you have to forget the convenience of the internet and actually do the work to put yourself in the real world, and this is no guarantee you will find friends.

>>16400 feel sorry for you

Probably not actually. I don't use any social media and i don't have any friends. If you are a normo who has friends and stuff then why not use social media?

Last time I was actually in town a few years ago. I stopped in a local store that had recently opened because I was waiting for my ride after a doctor's appointment. The girl working in there said that I could check their page out on Facebook and I told her I don't use Facebook, she literally repeated herself and didn't understand how someone couldn't have a Facebook account. She tried to then say she was a "gamer" and said how she likes playing things on her phone. I was in a full state of cringe. I didn't even want to talk to her. I said I don't even own a cell phone. And things were awkwardly silent until I just walked out. I think she was literally butthurt as well due to me not giving her attention like the little whore she was

>>16231 >Is it possible to drop all forms of social media and still have a social life? Yes, but you need to frequent local scenes, like regular (formal or informal) gatherings from any group, places in your neighborhood or surrounding area with regulars and the like. Other than that there's only hanging out with close friends, but I don't think that's what you mean by social life. Also I would like to know if anyone has another answer to that question that doesn't involve what I mentioned.

If someone is using social media to begin with they aren't likely worth to be friends with imo.

>>16656 Because you firmly believe its soykaf. Especially phone apps literally lower your IQ, the constant distraction saps attention away and makes you slower. Furthermore trains your into adhd behaviour. I wont convince them of my view of course but i can get away with not using it.

>>16231 >>16242 > I'm honestly trying to stop it with these imageboards too. They're exactly the same as the social media crap. Even Lainchan is. You absorb this cancerous stuff not first-hand but second, third hand and it's just the same in the end. I thought chatrooms would be more personal and unhinged from the flow of toxic waste but they're just memes memes memes, everything is memetic now. The brains of people have been contaminated beyond repair, including mine I'm afraid.

>>16307 soykaf, you got me

>>16231 I don't have friends and i only use internet for chans and search information.

>>16231 I don't use social media but I do have friends and they're okay with it and there's me using chans to talk to other people on the internet.

I limit myself to image boards and sometimes reddit. Even on reddit I use add ons to disable retarded features such as up votes. Those autoloading Ajax bullshits are also bad, sometimes when you disable js instead of that you get a "load more" text which is a lot better. Meditation also helps a lot, think about it if you train everyday to be distracted you get good at it so just meditate.

>>16231 I'm in a similar position as >>16234 except I use Telegram for everything. I would love to drop Telegram as it's becoming more and more terrible (I mean social media-like), but it feels just impossible. I use Telegram to keep in touch with my 3 friends and to get school announcements (secondhand - teachers usually distribute the announcements by Viber and I refuse to use Viber). My friends are all cool people, but we're not nearly (and probably won't ever be) close enough for me to say "hey, I'm deleting my Telegram account and you should register in this other weird app to talk to me" - I would just lose any contact with humans I know irl, then.

>>18364 >My friends are all cool people, but we're not nearly (and probably won't ever be) close enough for me to say "hey, I'm deleting my Telegram I wonder if they are just there or they are there for you. I'm not blackpilling you, it's a question that I asked myself and decided to delete my account.

>>18365 >I wonder if they are just there or they are there for you. Yes, they're "just there" and I think I've always been kind of aware of it on some subconscious level. These people talk to me mostly because I'm on Telegram and it's convenient for them to have yet another person to forward memes or cute pictures to (almost effortlessly, with one motion of a hand). We do have intellectually stimulating conversations sometimes (well, for me they are stimulating) and that's one reason why I'm "friends" with these people. I guess I know it isn't a real friendship, but it's the closest to real I had in my whole life. >it's a question that I asked myself and decided to delete my account. Based, though.

I guess I need better friends but in the age of coronavirus it's impossible to meet anyone and I don't really know how to find people who'd be interesting to me (and interested in me) on the Internet anymore (especially without social media).

Never used faceberg Never had my name to show up in public web pages Never had a cell phone No Google services since 2011 you are all glitterboys.

>>18368 You must be fun at lanparties.

>>18366 >These people talk to me mostly because I'm on Telegram Which is fine, sometimes. Say lain, what are your hobbies/interests.

(sorry for derailing the thread) >>18378 I'm pretty much obsessed with programming, probably same as an average Lainchan user. I've been learning Lisp (to be exact, Common Lisp) recently. Reading anarcho-capitalist/individualist/plain anarchist theory would be my hobby too, probably. Also, trying to become good at guitar and still sucking at it. I suppose it'd be possible to hop on an IRC about any of those topics but it just feels kind of intimidating because I'm such a noob. It's the same with Lainchan IRC, I've been thinking of joining it for so long but the anxiety of having nothing to offer to the "really actually smart people" eats me up inside every time I think of it. Contrary to this I constantly feel "too smart" and bored when participating in a real life group and one-on-one conversations consisting of people roughly my age. The pains of being smart but not smart enough. Or is it all in my head?

>>16231 >Is it possible to drop all forms of social media and still have a social life? I feel like if i delete Instagram, Facebook and Whatsapp i'll loose all my friends... And there's no way i could convince them to use something like IRC. If they're your real friend they'll learn to use email and make phone calls for you, I unfortunately learned many of my friends were fake when I switched from iPhone to Android and they refused to even download another messaging app for me

>>18366 >(sorry for derailing the thread) This shouldn't be too off topic as our need to communicate these stuff is a big part. Maybe lainons can see themselves in our struggles. >The pains of being smart but not smart enough. Nah, I think that's in your head, I think of myself as a lain chad and I couldn't use IRC but instead of reading docs like an autist I kept mashin the keyboard people made fun of me but it was OK. I was learning. Don't let it have the same effect as cringe socials like IG on you. You can't say for sure how these people are. But perhaps I'm too dump to notice how stupid I am? > trying to become good at guitar I feel that

>>16231 Figure out what the problem you're trying to solve is. Despite being part of the same "botnet" that we all try to avoid, Instagram and Facebook are "social media" in a way that Whatsapp isn't, particularly when you just use it to talk to your friends. (I believe this is particularly true if you're outside of the US, where SMS and iMessage are used over Whatsapp) Deleting Facebook was somewhat hard for me. I definitely lost track of some people. But I kept in touch with other people all the same. I always knew it was botnet but at the end of the day I deleted it because it was an extremely toxic influence on my life -- even when the feed was just people I knew. My life isn't perfect but I think it's better off for it. You end up hanging out more with fewer people, it seems more special to catch up with people, and you end up gravitating towards other people that aren't complete social media divas, which is nice.

>>16235 I made a Discord account recently and now they automatically lock you out of your account 10 seconds after you create it and demand that you give them your phone number. I wonder if they are committing something illegal on the grounds that they say there is no workaround to the phone number verification (if you're locked out, you HAVE to give them your phone number, you can't ask support) and there is no mention that you may be required to give them your phone account during account creation.

I use the Messenger app as a de-facto SMS service - people that want to contact me can add me on there and message me, and i am exempt from dealing with all of the other meaningless soykaf going on elsewhere on normal-people-interweb.

>>18479 then contact support and let them know you don't have a phone.

>>18484 I just inserted it to unlock and deleted the account. They already knew my phone anyway 'cause I registered in the past, but I hate this forced soykaf. Never again.

>>16659 so you were autistic to someone trying to flirt with you in person. Cool story. You can pass yourself off as a cool mysterious "hacker" by being off faceboob. It's pretty easy. Just say 'yeah I do tech stuff and I really don't trust facebook for that reason'.

I think the only form of social media you really need is some instant messaging app to stay in touch with your immediate family (if you care about them) and your closest friends. Everything else is fluff.

>>18479 Lol it's not illegal whatsoever. Welcome to the botnet.

>>18491 >Register to our service, we need an email and password! >OK you registered, done! >Whoops, we need your phone number too or you're locked out! Companies do illegal soykaf all the time, they just don't get called out on it because people assume everything they do iis legal. If you nitpick the TOS you can often make the claims that it wasn't transparent enough. I'm going to look into that.

>>16231 Make new frens, fren. In conjuction with what >>16232 said, I'll say if you try to keep up with the wrong herd, you'll get trampled. Lainons would rather use Irc and other "contrarian" mechanisms of communication instead of soykafty social media platforms. We'll be your new frens.

>>16231 to be honest, I wouldn't use any social at all but not because I don't to comunicate with my friends or meet new people but just because they are really cancerous. Everyone is trying to show off or post dumb bullshit no one cares about. They are just plain stupid. Just like traditional mediums like TVs or newspapers. I don't see why any sane person would use them in the first place. Just use messaging apps and be done with it.

Deleted all social media except for discord to talk to friends I met online, feels good man.

>>18833 >discord feels bad man

>>18833 >>18834 I would like to delete discord but i need it to talk with a friend.

>>20625 not a real friend. probably wont talk to them in 2 more years.

>>20625 >I would like to delete discord but i need it to talk with a friend. So get their email address first, and then delete discord after.

>>20626 This. What you get for staying in discord: 1- Getting spied on. 2- The bluepill and never finding out if your friend is real What you get for deleting it: 1- Getting Richard Stallman's (PBUH) approval 2- One more platform spying on you 3- Less time wasted on retarded socials 4- Taking the inform, and more meaningful bonds 5- Actually encouraging other people to do so and creating a chain of positive events

>One more platform spying on you less* damn im retarded

>Is it possible to drop all forms of social media and still have a social life? This may be unthinkable for some people in this site, but you could try going out. Simply spend time outside socializing directly with others. If you don't like that then why socialize, and you can always find like-minded people in the suspect places (eg IRC) anyway. The less you use bullshit media (including the web for anything that's not strictly research), the more you will be productive with your alone time and you will too have to sink or swim in social situations. Shit, the internet has inspired m so much but it is too so generally detrimental, I realize every time I come to a sitechan or even leafing throughna pdf I'm just sliding down a spiral of idleness that's not helpful.

>>18484 Have to use a phone for that I believe

>>20627 >Yo that's weird, but no problem, here's my email, bro: yourfriend@gmail.com

>>16231 I only use WhatsApp for arranging meetups with friends. You could easily do without the other ones.

>>16231 Hey I have no social media and also no social life. I keep myself the old fashioned way, email and phone calls. Not saying that those aren't spied on but at least I don't have the paranoia of mentioning something and getting adds about it all over the place (gmail is an exception). Closest thing I have to social media is a yt account I use to make playlists and of course it doesn't have a lick of information about me. But that's not even my main problem with social media. My main deal is that I think it is in general a bunch of based soykaf, there is no real motivation for discussion or different opinions. Take as an example Insta, there really isn't a way to disagree with someone other than ranting in the comments, but those get deleted anyways. There is no negative reaction to posts, only heart things (I don't know what they are called). The more you adhere to societies arbitrary standards, the more hearts you get, you deviate, you're nobody. Same goes for FB, tumblr, and the list goes on. I think its what other people describe as the internet becoming infected with real life. What I like about the internet is the ability to get to know opinions I wouldn't other wise know about in every day life, not get every day life idiocy and ideologies that most people just follow because someone else says so. That being said I see no need to spend my time and have someone sell my information for content that is empty and most of the time not backed by anything but the social standard. If someone doesn't have the time to answer my call or respond to my email, I wouldn't consider them indispensable friends.

>>16231 I deleted most social media earlier this year and feel all the better for it. I still have a deactivated facebook account for messenger as well as a snapchat account, but only because I have friends I still talk to regularly that I can't convince to migrate elsewhere. I don't think these two are too terrible though, because neither allows me to mindlessly scroll ad nauseum. I have discord too but use it for niche communities, like PSP homebrew dev, that are hard to find good discourse for elsewhere. Still not ideal, but what can you do. >>16234 This anon knows what's up. I'll just add, don't drop social if you don't have any irl friends. I have a good group of buds I know I can fall back on, but if that's not the case for (you) then it's worth clinging to medias just to keep your sanity in check. Everyone needs someone to talk to; online communication isn't ideal, but it's better than nothing. >>18405 >You end up hanging out more with fewer people, it seems more special to catch up with people This is definitely something I found. Before, seeing in someone in public was just "meh" because technically I could contact them anytime (even if I didn't), but now it's exciting to see an old friend and have a word or two with them. It's the little things like this that you benefit from the most imo.