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Non-Computer Science but still STEM graduates or current students: What was/is your major? To what education level have you achieved (i.e B.S, M.S, Phd) Why did you go into your field? What interesting problems are you hoping to work on in the field? What exactly do you do? How is the job market? How do you feel about your field compared to computer science? Do you use programming at all with your work? If you had to start over again, assuming back to pre-uni knowledge, would you do the same degree again? If not, what would you pursue and why?

Chemist here. If the wheel of time would reverse to the end of high school, i'd choose programming instead. I'm very envious how stupid people with informatics degree step out the gate of the uni, and get a job immediately where he earns as much as i will in 5-10 years, while barely doing more than 2-3 hours of real hard work a day. And they can literally work anywhere, small towns, big cities, or even through the net, while we have a few big employers in the whole country with 2-3 sites each and that's it. My only regret would be that i love this science and engineering very much, and maybe that IMO opinion the state of informatics today is a bubble that may pop, like, you know, maybe harder times will come, and people will realize they don't need computers in their socks and their toilet paper rolls, and maybe mankind will face a situation where won't be hundreds of millions of people who do nothing but watch and make videos about nothing and still have the money to pay for an industry this big. Or moving to China or other far-east country may change this ratio of freshly-graduate imbecile java "programmers" earn twice as much as people who operate a >half a million ton a year output chemical plant.

>>16039 for example i met people who work as "professional admins" and earn a literal soykafton of money, and don't know how to look up and kill a process on linux. or people who are "programmers" but can't solve a simple polinomial equation. these people earn more than i and i'm really envious and i'd choose informatics over chemistry if i could start it again, and i thought about learning to be a good programmer in autodidact mode, and changing professions in a few years.

>>16040 It just tells you how much market is thirsty for IT people. Literally anyone, without a diploma or degree, can get a job in my country. People from construction sites that learned .NET are now working backend and let me tell you, they know their jobs better than those fuarrrkers you're talking about. Are you jealous just because of their salaries or because of their arrogance? Go then learn it and get a job, it isn't that hard. Arrogant egoistical people are dimes a dozen in STEM fields, ignore them and move on. Want bigger salary? Go get what you're worth then and stop bitchin.

>>16051 fuarrrk your mother i wasnt bitching. I'm jelaous because of their salaries, i don't find them more arrogant than any other group of people. Yes, as i said i'm currently thinking about changing profession (to programming), but this time without university. Actually it makes me mad that i wasted so many years of my life. I know people who never studied higher than high school and earn as much as an engineer with a university degree as fresh programmers (they are actually talented, but as i said, untalented people just need that degree and also earn that much). As i mentioned, besides changing profession, my other option to come over this gap would be moving to the far east where they actually manufacture things so they need lots of engineers and scientists, not just webpage makers and social-media admins and soykaf like that.

>>16039 The idiots who don't actually know anything will get culled when the bubble pops. Big corps that can survive it like Google and Microsoft don't hire idiots. Also: IME being a programmer at a startup is kind of demeaning. I guess if your sense of self worth is based on how much money you make it wouldn't be so bad, but you spend your days making soykafty code to be "agile" and then working nights to fix it because "agile". You're totally subservient in every way to the marketing and sales people. You're basically complicit in a scam but you can't even acknowledge to anyone that it's a scam.

B.S. in Physics Mathematics and Computer Science. Using all three to solve problems is pretty much what I live for. Though I have to say there is a lot of money to be made if you are willing to deal with the mundane and mindless problems that most software engineers face but it just makes me cringe when recruiters want to recommend jobs where you are maintaining a poorly written online store front or something else you think would have become commodity software tech by now but... Seems like so much of that industry is people reinventing the wheel poorly for job security and then having to deal with it. I like the projects that you're not really sure it's going to be doable but you have a strong hunch it is especially when you get to apply hard science to it