2020s

>Decade has just started >USA assassinates a major Iranian, nearly starts a war >Pandemic in China >Australia on fire >Climate change seems worse than even the pessimists predicted How much worse do you think things will get?

>>15399 Maybe this will be the decade. The one we don't come back from.

>>15399 Maybe humanity will finally realize that demanding for large scale changes on social media is the equivalent of tweeting thoughts & prayers after an earthquake.

It's gonna be more than 100 years since a great war has happened, it's only a matter of time before we have war again, it's to get rid of the bad blood

>>Pandemic in China Holy soykaf Lain, I thought you were talking about the pigs. >1 out of 3 death rate so far >entire 56-million-people city quarantined >people collapsing in the streets

>>15399 We desperately need a war or a plague to balance out overpopulation and meme economy.

>>15401 You seem to say that with glee.

eh, things will probably get worse over time. Hopefully something better rises from the ashes of this dying civilization. That's pretty much my only long-term hope for humanity now.

You forgot to mention that the 6th mass extinction is already well underway, and the window for doing anything effective about climate change is almost past. The real future is going to make every dystopian novel you ever read seem like Sunnybrook Farm. I find Zen to be a very nice way to deal with this reality. Cheers. :)

>>15415 Yes.

Will this end up being a lost decade, since there will be no one there to have lived through it and record its history?

>>15423 That's false actually, few species of significant importance are in trouble, the species that are going extinct are species that have been isolated for thousands of years on islands and after encountering new species have no defense against them. We have actually gotten much better at preserving species, there is no mass extinction going on, we just need to get better at protecting island species. We also can act on preserving the environment as well, many glaciers and environments are being saved and protected, in fact many of our predictions about the future about climate change have been proven wrong, we can still act and prevent things from getting bad, and if and or when things truly get bad then we will be able to act on them on a much greater and more efficent scale.

>>15406 Our population isn't overpopulated nor is it a "meme" economy, as long as we continue innovating as humans and support ourselves, the issue of sustainability will never be a real problem.

And now Kobe died. Not sure how things are going in Australia but the tennis tournament is going just fine so the bread and circus mechanism is still working, shame we will default to the position of let's do nothing for the climate change problem until something worse happens.

Jeff Bezos (aka richest man on planet) got his phone hacked by Saudi prince? That might create some chaos overall too

>>15436 How many employees' souls can you fit into an SD card?

To be honest I am optimistic. Things seem much worse than they actually are because our attention is drawn to those issues more now than in the past. Some issues are amplified because we're watching the news more closely as a result of the internet.

All the issues except climate change are just business as usual. Not great, but nothing catastrophic. Climate change though is going to probably be our great filter. I think most people are being too positive and expecting technology to deliver an eleventh hour miracle. Nope. This is terraforming tech we're talking about here. We don't have nearly enough time to develop a solution like that, let alone test it and check for unintended consequences. Which will exist, guaranteed. It's going to take dire measures that nobody will like. It will be a question of limiting collapse to merely disastrous conditions instead of catastrophic. We need to start getting rid of industry very quickly. It's not a hypothetical anymore. It's not about our population, it's about our rates of production—but unfortunately degrowth will also end up causing a lot of famine and such. But that's coming no matter what. I feel like there's doubtless gonna be a horrible chapter for humankind ahead of us. I don't wanna sound ecofash, I hate that whole concept—but the decisions we'll have to make are not going to be easy. Iran would definitely be a giant distraction and screw up a lot of our best efforts. We don't have even remotely the time for that. Going to war with them would be insanely stupid. The US got ganked in Iraq, and Iran would be ten times as bad.

>>15431 Wow this is a dumb take. Just blatant denialism. And yeah, waiting until things truly get bad will not allow us to act on them on a "much greater and efficient scale." These things have incredible inertia. It's already gone far enough that even if we totally ceased our actions tomorrow we'd still be facing some extreme problems for centuries because a planet-wide ecosystem can't just turn on a dime. Waiting until people like you finally can't plug their ears any longer and are forced to admit there's a problem would be unbearably foolish.

I was talking last night to a friend about how last decade had the erosion of the nuclear family and tradition and now in this decade its basically going to be the norm. I feel like the worlds going to Hell, in urban environments at least and will probably move to the country at some point in the decade.

>>15448 Is this the Chinese propaganda bot that keeps posting on all the politics websites? Looks like it. If you have allowed your family to erode over the last decade then I feel sorry for you. I have not. If you feel like your urban environment doesn't reflect your reality, what have you been doing to change your situation? What's your contribution been to your culture and community? Or are you just waiting around for other people to do things and complaining about how they aren't like what you would have done?

>>15443 How do you propose we solve these problems then?

>>15453 Are you blind? these things are brought on by top down social engineering. Me and things I have done for my community are not going to fix it.

>>15446 Most species are useless dead ends. Their death will open up ecological niches to new species, allowing new forms to arise by evolution. Historical mass extinctions have been followed by a flourishing of life and complexity. Goddamn hippies contaminating the perception of the environment as ecological balance and preservation of life. It is struggle and constant change.

I hope it gets even worse.

>>15475 Previous mass extinctions were nothing like this one.

>>15488 actually rapid climate change due to a single species fuarrrking up everything is a pretty common thread in mass extinctions. >>15475 >Most species are useless dead ends. implying a species needs a "use", and implying that a mass extinction event is no different from normal background extinction which prunes "dead end" mutations which are not well-adapted to their environment. Whether a particular species will survive a mass extinction event has almost nothing to do with whether it survives background extinction; mass extinctions result in genetic drift, not better adaptations. >Historical mass extinctions have been followed by a flourishing of life and complexity. Over a period of a million years or more, yes. For humans that's irrelevant. I do not relish the thought of watching all the forests die, and knowing that one day something else will spring up is only a small comfort. >Goddamn hippies contaminating the perception of the environment as ecological balance and preservation of life. It is struggle and constant change. It is neither and both. Some things barely change for millions of years, some things speciate overnight. Some things compete, some things cooperate. The goal is survival, nothing more, and silly humans ought to learn that survival doesn't follow ideologies, it does what works.

>>15494 > a pretty common thread in mass extinctions Not at anything approaching this rate or on this scale. Stop projecting your school yard mentality disguised as darwinian theory onto something the size of a planet.

>>15497 >Not at anything approaching this rate or on this scale. we have no fine-grained data about the rate or cause of extinction for previous mass extinction events, and it's hard to overstate how absolutely devastating past ones have been. We can predict a mass extinction event will happen, we can't predict if it will kill 10% or 90% of all life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxygenation_Event is an example of an extinction event which was at least partially caused by some life producing chemicals that were toxic to most other forms of life. >Stop projecting your school yard mentality disguised as darwinian theory onto something the size of a planet. Stop acting like humans are anything special. We're a disease, we'll run our course like every other disease, and in a few million years we will be nothing but a thin layer in the geological record.

>>15462 So you've been waiting since birth for the sweet release of death. You've given up. What a waste.

While I'm not optimistic about population numbers being reduced to tolerable levels anytime soon, the social and political horror that has been the norm for the last couple of decades at least seems to be accelerating towards a peak, which gives the opportunity of something else to replace it. Of course, people who get giddy about collapse always naively assume that their group will take over if it comes to that. That's never guaranteed, things could get even worse, as hard as it may be to believe sometimes.

>>15402 This made me chuckle.

Things are probably feel more worse because we're always updated about it. Constantly reminded of it.

OP you need to take a good look at history anf realize all these are nothing but little hiccups. We're not in the middle of major world wars. No massive catastrophe has happened that has landed us into a small ice age, we're not facin famines or widespread plague (and I mean the kind of plague that will kill off 70% of thr population). We definitely have it super easy. Treasure it.

>>16427 Sports and events outside are cancelled, people are going to panic from boredom the moment they get bored of binge watching Netflix.

I'm just waiting for proprietary Linux and the abolishment of GNU, and laws that only allow women into lead software dev positions

>>16431 Women in lead positions would comfortably improve the world, if that's how it turns out I'll happily accept the current state of things.

>>16429 You under-estimate the fragility of our civilization. It's clear that we can't even react reasonably to a small hiccup, what happens when something actually serious happens? There is no way this civilization will continue through the current environmental collapse.

>>16434 maybe you are right but on the other hand we are able to can adapt when the conditions change, especially when the survival of our species depends on it

>>16435 perhaps humanity as a whole can adapt, sure. I think specifically American civilization is totally unable to handle a real disaster. They barely got through the dust bowl and that was a minor famine.

>>15399 I don't know , I just feel that the end is near. And I accept it.

We're getting close to literally nothing matters other than the biosphere collapsing. It's the only thing anyone should be thinking about. We've got to fix that at any cost. A full cold war-style nuclear exchange would be preferable to climate collapse (contrary to popular belief, that many nukes would not cause it themselves. Look at Chernobyl, green as ѕһіt)

>>16439 The amount of CO2 we put out on a daily basis is the same as 5 hiroshima bombs, in i think 2008 or so it was about 4.

>>16439 Just because plant life isn't killed by radiation doesn't mean that humans can live there. If you ate a potato grown there you'd likely die of intestinal cancer super fast. The wolves studied near the area have been shown to be just barely escaping the tumor issue and for humans they say it'd be more problematic as the levels of exposure in the wolves were too high.

>>16439 >if the ice caps melt the BIOSPHERE WILL COLLAPSE This is why we can't have nice things. People taking the news propaganda far too seriously. A politician uses it to get elected by running his mouth, pr bullshit about ICE CAPS MELTING. Devices get smaller and more breakable, capitalist corruption likes green devices. But the fear in you is so strong you can't see what the real reasons for the spouting of propaganda are. Simply to control you. To make you a highly efficient, and controlled, soldier of minimalism that relies heavily on breakable devices that the system makes for you. To keep you a slave. And they are often very expensive when NEEDEd. Take cars for example. Tuk tuk are soooo bad for the environment, but very cheap. Who would make these things illegal? Could it have to do with rich, super super, rich, car making industries lobbying it to be illegal to use? because, it's illegal in the USA, yet most of the gasses aren't coming from the USA, land of the not so free. You should not trust anything these people tell you.

>>16445 I'm pretty sure that nuclear bombs don't produce any CO2.

>>16445 Please explain how do your make carbon dioxide from a pile of uranuim / plutonium / hydrogen. That is some alchemy soykaf right there.

>>16553 Are you saying that the ice caps aren't melting or that them melting is irrelevant? Because afaik most people are convinced by the argument that by disturbing the ecosystem by raising the sea levels and possibly breaking the gulf stream. It's not just the statement >if the ice caps melt the BIOSPHERE WILL COLLAPSE but then again, not everyone is a specialist in these things.

>>16555 >>16554 Refining and enriching uranium takes a lot of ressources and energy which is produced using fossil fuels, I think that's what is included in the CO2 cost he talked about.

>>15432 >1.4 billion Indians >1.3 billion Africans >unaffordable housing >somehow not overpopulated By 2050 those populations will have doubled. But hey, we can just about sustain a decent standard of life for a relatively small proportion of the world population! Obviously more third-worlders will make things better!

>>15399 somewhere pol, sorry Have anybody thought coronavirus gave politics two choices? On one hand we can just ignore corona, because we know it kills elderly poor people, so we don't need to pay them pension brrr... On other hand politics can choose quarantine which harms economy a lot. I see politics often choose second option. Why it happens, is there an real reason to stop progress to save elderly people?

>>16825 1) A lot of politicians, bankers, and other elites are old, fat, smokers, etc. 2) It kills some young people, too, though the current belief is that a significant amount of them catch it and just walk it off while spreading the disease 3) We don't know the long term implications of infection, it might cause issues down the line like chickenpox, reinfection may be possible (making such a sacrifice useless), etc. 4) Letting everyone go back to work means that a ton of people will get dangerously sick and flood hospitals beyond control, meaning that people with other problems who would have otherwise lived can't get their surgery and die 5) Slamming the hospitals is going to kill a lot of nurses and doctors, as many of them are older, have health problems, etc. and getting high initial viral loads makes the disease worse. We already have a global medical shortage, losing thousands of doctors to the disease would be a catastrophe that would take decades to recover from. We can't really churn out tons of new doctors to replace them because we also have a global medical teacher shortage.

>>16825 It does not just kill elderly people, it also kills a lot of people with pre-existing morbidites, and morbid obesity counts. There's a whole lot of young fat people. Also, it may or may not cause infertility, which would be very bad news if it spreads among young people. Furthermore, if granny dies because politicianman chose the economy over lives, politicianman may well be decorating a lamp-post in the very near future.

>>15432 >as long as we ignore the problem, the problem doesn't exist

>>16825 it's not just about saving elderly people. If 60% of the population got the same illness within the same month(which is what would happen without any response), the economy would be just as fuarrrked as it is now. The real problem is that nobody reacted when it was possible to get out of this without a civilization-level crisis. So we're paying the price. The choice was really "do something now or wait until it gets bad and then do something", and politicians always take the second option. also these reasons >>16827 isolation is just the better option for now.

dont forget economic downturn will create massive housing bubble later... oh and Trumps election 2: old white dudes boogaloo its all so tiresome... the only pleasure i still feel is a nice meal and chillin with my fellow lains

>>16835 We don't actually know any of that. All these plans were made by doctors, not sociologists or economists. We know this method will slow the spread of disease, but this situation is largely unprecedented at this scale. We absolutely don't yet know what it will do in terms of collateral damage. You can't really say with any credibility that "the economy would be just as fuсked" if 60% of the population got really sick for a couple weeks all at once, a few million die... compared to nearly 100% of the population taking themselves out of commission for an indeterminate time, possible many months, perhaps even a year. Especially considering the factor of uncertainty, which is very tangible. And we don't know how many that will kill. We don't even know if we can complete the quarantine successfully, or if it'll just run amok and kill a similar number anyway when we lose public safety nets/resources to continue isolation/lose control of public unrest and cause a revolt. It's kind of like not finishing a regimen of antibiotics: doing it unsuccessfully may be more dangerous than even total inaction. Both are terrible, obviously. There are definitely different degrees. "economy fuсked" is not a binary state, where one massive depression may as well be the same as any other. We just have no idea, but everyone's pretending like they do. Doctors know how to model pathogens, but they know nothing about how to model totally unknown economic scenarios and cultural shocks and political upheaval. All I know is that we've weathered diseases and such before. We've weathered busts and depressions too, but this one is... unique. Completely unique. We might be displaying vast hubris right now by being so sure of ourselves and our decisions. And for those talking about the hospitals being slammed? Flattening the curve is also not a binary state. It's not either exponential disaster or a low slump, squeezing by underneath existing hospital capacity. As I said earlier, the quarantine is potentially manageable but it's far longer. If we don't manage to quite get the curve down below that threshold (and there's plenty of reasons to think we won't.. the restrictions are largely toothless, and at least in the US the hospital system is designed from the start to run on a skeleton crew to be as lean and profitable as possible, not take care of real crises)... Well, what happens is you end up knocking out all your hospitals for a far longer time. Would it really be better to just rip the bandage off and get it over with? I doubt it... but we are about to learn some difficult and novel lessons. I can feel it. There are things we haven't thought about yet.

And now radioactive fires happening in Chernobyl, Ukraine. It honestly seems like a ridiculous show, or a SimCity disasters spam. I wonder if all these 'happenings' really took on and are occuring at a higher rate, or if it's just the result of highly digital society, instant news, messaging, internet and so on. What do you lads think?

>>16433 It is an incredibly naive idea that there's a category of people who is better than the rest.

>>16887 I think it is partly because of information age has brought forth these bad news to us at higher rate and at same time desensitized and alienated us from them. Before people would react responsible to these happenings, if it were their own duty within their own community to try their best and fix them. Now we, through the high paced media have seen both good and bad happen before our own eyes, not being able to help just look. Okay, aside some hashtag-activism, if you can call it activism... and some online petitions going nowhere and few donation circles trying to fix things, what have we gotten? "WOOOO KONY 2012 we gonna fix the world WOOO, oh wait the guy that started Kony 2012 is a weirdo who gets naked in the streets and Kony wasn't an issue from early 2000s and money was just spend frivolously.... damn I am demoralized now for any type of change ;_;" that kind of mentality I think most people are just having a wake up from technology, seeing themselves unable to do anything to growing number of soykafty things happening in the world. In the end, technology is just a tool and people are at fault ultimately. Internet and computers are just force multipliers in my humble opinion.

>>16860 >We don't actually know any of that. All these plans were made by doctors, not sociologists or economists. you don't need to be a sociologist or an economist to know that a disease ripping through your population does your economy no good. Also, do you really think that they don't have economists behind the scenes working on this? You really think that they had no input at all? How incredibly naive. >We know this method will slow the spread of disease, but this situation is largely unprecedented at this scale. We absolutely don't yet know what it will do in terms of collateral damage. We also don't know how much collateral damage unchecked spread would cause. From my point of view, it's just too risky. At least this way we know what we're getting into, to some degree, and can be proactive. >You can't really say with any credibility that "the economy would be just as fuсked" if 60% of the population got really sick for a couple weeks all at once, a few million die... compared to nearly 100% of the population taking themselves out of commission for an indeterminate time, possible many months, perhaps even a year. 1) nowhere near 100%. Most people are still working in some form. 2) you also can't say with credibility that it wouldn't be similarly damaging. 3) do you seriously think anybody is planning on letting the quarantine last for a year? Even the braindead people in Washington know that is not a reasonable expectation. >We don't even know if we can complete the quarantine successfully, or if it'll just run amok and kill a similar number anyway when we lose public safety nets/resources to continue isolation/lose control of public unrest and cause a revolt. the quarantine will be completed when public health infrastructure is good enough to deal with the surge in cases when quarantine ends(which will be a multi-stage affair, so as to not cause too big of a surge). If you have a better idea, voice it now. "We don't know if we can do it" is a very poor reason to not even try. >It's kind of like not finishing a regimen of antibiotics: doing it unsuccessfully may be more dangerous than even total inaction. Both are terrible, obviously. it's really not, actually. The strains of the virus most likely to break out when quarantine ends are the ones with the mildest symptoms(making people more likely to be out & about when they are sick), unlike antibiotic resistance. This is a very common evolution path for virii. OTOH the strains that evolve in hospitals tend to be the most deadly, but that will happen either way. >Doctors know how to model pathogens, but they know nothing about how to model totally unknown economic scenarios and cultural shocks and political upheaval. economists largely don't either. >All I know is that we've weathered diseases and such before. Did you know that the government was heavily criticized for not doing enough during the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic? Did you know that there were revolutions and famines and wars all over the world during that time? >As I said earlier, the quarantine is potentially manageable but it's far longer. If we don't manage to quite get the curve down below that threshold (and there's plenty of reasons to think we won't.. the restrictions are largely toothless, and at least in the US the hospital system is designed from the start to run on a skeleton crew to be as lean and profitable as possible, not take care of real crises)... Well, what happens is you end up knocking out all your hospitals for a far longer time. Hospital capacity could be increased. It must be increased, vastly. That's the entire point of quarantine.

>>16887 If that's the case I demand a giant monster

>>16887 if the Tunguska Event happened today people would think it was quite literally the end of the world. I think it's just our internet-addled ADD brains being bad at danger estimation.

>>15399 It's off to a very bumpy start, but I bet as time goes on things will improve

>>16890 From epidemiologist's point of view, COVID-19 is nothing but a flu. Human over-reacted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Q4naYOYDw

Anyone else hopes that society will collapse soon as possible?

>>17417 I'm waiting for Jesus Christ to burn up this sinful place.

>>17417 All of my life. But now im somewhat on the fence, i use the time i get for my advantage. >>17418 Most certainly this vile world will be burned and a new world will emerge, all the great minds are aware of this.

>>17419 I mean considering our luck, the new one will be exponentially more vile. I don't have high hopes, but change is the only constant after all. Maybe it'll be good change for some, who knows.

Cops murdered a man in the USA, now all the major cities are rioting. It has been getting progressively worse with each day. We might have a full on civil war in a week or two if they don't find a way to settle people down.

I definitely expected some semblance of normalcy at this point, just go outside with masks and all that, here after 2 months of quarantine the curve has never been close to flattening though.

This is all happening because you didn't forward that chain email to 10 people

A soykafload worse. Global climate change is only starting. Russia wants to destabilize the planet, communist China will overcome the United States as the dominant world power, and global autocracy is still on the rise, and I still have no friends or GF

>>17683 the whole "flatten the curve" business is pretty crappo IMO. Even in places where it works, it will jump back up immediately. The US government seems more interested in suppressing civilians than actually fuarrrking managing anything. I'm getting pretty close to saying "let it rip, damn the consequences"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaEJSgNoboE

>>17685 >Russia wants to destabilize the planet Like the supervillain in a movie? Russia is just a rational (or close to rational) actor on the stage of geopolitics as any other country. I'm sorry to say but it's a childish view of politics. Their interests might now align with the ones of the country you life in but that's the extent of it.

>>17685 >Russia wants to destabilize the planet I'm sorry, you seem to have confused lainchan for /r/politics. You'll have better luck with your hysterical partisan redbaiting over there.

if u switch "the planet" for "the west" what he says is accurate tho, sadbois~

>>15399 Oh boy, I guess we didn't see the race riots coming.

You all see that massive explosion in Beruit? That was peak 2020. Proper Mushroom Cloud. Big building totally devastated.

>>17685 >and I still have no friends or GF figures, a basement dweller more fixated on what Russia and China are supposedly doing than helping his pathetic life

>>18822 Peak? Lmao not even close. Fertilizer explosions happen all the time. But it was pretty crazy. Everyone just wait—something more retarded is yet to come. There is always something even dumber waiting in the wings. It would actually be pretty entertaining assuming I could actually live my damn life and wasn't about to be ground into a thin film of watery gore by the worst economic catastrophe in centuries. Anyone not looking out for the post-covid holodomor/global market crash is a rube. That's the only real thing for most people to worry about. That is going to be what personally ruins your life and mine and everyone we love's as well. The rest of it is just a bunch of media hokum. About as likely to hurt you as a terrorist attack, e.g. close enough to zero to treat as zero and flagrantly disregard. Moralizing and sophistry be damned. It's just not important for the VAST majority. Should have just let it clear out a statistically tiny portion of the social security collectors that we are all going to break our backs our entire lives to support now. >>17686 I've said "let it rip, damn the consequences" since January. Because it's always been the only option anyway. All these stupid schemes to manage a natural disaster—it's all pure stinky dogѕһіt. Do we try to change the course of hurricanes? Do we try to somehow dampen earthquakes?! It's nothing better than pigeon superstition. There is no suppressing a highly infectious/super low-fatality (and it is super low IFR god damn it) virus like this. It can't be stopped once it spreads out of a very tiny locale. Once it got out of Wuhan sometime in fuсking mid-2019, it was already over. The rest of it is just arrogance and biosecurity theater and totalitarian power grabs. Funny how earlier this year, no epidemiologist would be caught fuсking dead saying that lockdowns could lead to zero cases aka full suppression. But at some point the zealots took control and shifted the goalposts. It's literally an insane and quixotic endeavor. It won't ever EVER happen. May as well try and stop the earth from turning. Which they basically are attempting to do. This will 100% end in gunfire and war, by the way. A plethora of global conflicts will pop off from this idiocy very soon, and the consequences will still be roiling for generations. Just like any other global depression. This is the dumbest, most destructive action the world could have possibly taken. I wish these "experts" and bureaucrats could be lined up against the wall and shot. They still just might be in many places. Once the data settles out and desperation kicks in, people are going to be murderous.

>>18823 This guy has a point. Focus on improving your local conditions. 99% of international affairs are a big puppet show bandied about to scare the ѕһіt out of you and distract you from immediate, material aspects in your real life that are currently being robbed from you. Everybody is lonely and empty because they atomized your communities, privatized and bought out all culture, and sold it back to you as an ultra-low-budget digital imitation of what it was before. Just apps on your phone. Life didn't used to be like this, and since it happened between generations and nobody really listens to previous generations and thinks they are crazy we didn't really notice or care.

>>18825 I agree with the sentiment but I wouldn't call it a puppet show. Its not really for our benefit. It's more like a war among gods. We just see the lightning bolts atop mount olympus but don't actually have a dog in that fight (contrary to what the news might have you believe). Sure, if one of the gods calls down a torrential flood or a fire storm were going to be fuarrrked over but we don't have much impact on their motivation for doing so and also don't really have a way to stop them from doing it so its best to focus on surviving the fallout instead of cheering one god or another from the sidelines.

The economy is very fragile, really: https://youtu.be/kq6K8hqZQmo If there's a recession it will be deep and long.

>>16887 And you also need to realize that these problems always happen but the news usually focus on specific topics. Natural disasters and the latest news of china seem like whats hot now. Just wait till the american election.

>>18824 >Do we try to somehow dampen earthquakes?! Actually yes, by having anti-seismic guidelines in high risk areas, and monitoring such areas.

>>18824 That would be true if a vaccine wasn't created. Seems pretty likely we're going to see a vaccine in 2021 tho

>>18894 A vaccine in 2021? Probably. A safe, highly effective, mass-producable, and cheap vaccine? Hopefully, but there's a possibility that doesn't happen quite so soon.

>>18898 Doesn't have to be proven safe. Russia and other authoritarian states will be the guinea pigs for the rest of us.

>>18901 We are all living in authoritarian states. Also, side effects could take many years to manifest, especially with completely new vaccines like these ones.

>>18902 >Also, side effects could take many years to manifest True, but that's not going to stop widespread rollouts of the vaccine. There's enough hope to go on that we won't see much war as a direct result of the virus. We might see war as a result of the dumb ass reactions governments are taking in response to the second order effects of the virus / lockdown, but that has less to do with our response to the virus and more to do with how fuarrrked up things were already i.e. if the virus hadn't happened some other crisis would have prompted it.

Horrible ass hurricane season for sure. Calling it now

they needed a new word to excuse authoritarianism. "covid-19" is the new "9/11"

>>15403 It's to kill off the surplus young men. You get revolutions when ~30% of the male population can't get laid or work. The only way humans have avoided that is through wide application of castration. a normalization of eunuchs. I would argue all the sissy propaganda and AGP Propaganda out there is to encourage this. Though I suspect boogaloo is to try to encourage the poors to kill each other.

>>20380 >The only way humans have avoided that is through wide application of castration. a normalization of eunuchs. when and where has that ever happened?

>>20381 As if the rest of that post wasn't clear enough? Ignore him and he'll go away eventually.

>>18906 We're now tied with 2005 for the highest number of named Atlantic storms. Good call.

>>15399 You forgot the fire in chernobyl, and the explositions in Beirut, those two were insane.

>>20751 Breh this thread is from Jan 25th, it just happened to foreshadow what soykaf we were on track for before we even knew it.