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How do you make money 'telecommuting', for instance, as a digital nomad?
XERXES · 2019-03-24 13:22
Definitions:
Telecommuting:
>Telecommuting, also called telework, teleworking, working from home, mobile work, remote work, and flexible workplace,[1][2] is a work arrangement in which employees do not commute or travel (e.g. by bus or car) to a central place of work, such as an office building, warehouse, or store. Teleworkers in the 21st century often use mobile telecommunications technology such as Wi-Fi-equipped laptop or tablet computers and smartphones to work from coffee shops; others may use a desktop computer and a landline phone at their home.
Source:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommuting
Digital nomad:
>Digital nomads are a type of people who use telecommunications technologies to earn a living and, more generally, conduct their life in a nomadic manner.[1] Such workers often work remotely from foreign countries, coffee shops, public libraries, co-working spaces, or recreational vehicles.[2][3]
Source:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_nomad
Outline:
I was inspired by this thread: https://www.lainchan.org/r/res/8671.html, although I felt as though the scope of the premise was too limited and decided to make a more exacting thread.
My question is as "outlined" above in the subject: How do you make enough money through telecommuting to live a comfortable life? Secondarily, how is this done whilst living as a digital nomad?
The jobs themselves can be 'technical' in nature, and need not consider morality as a moribund on their viability. - After all, this is just speculation.
Thank you in advance.
Apoc · 2019-03-24 19:31
You don't start out that way. You put in your years at a job where you can telecommute and make yourself indispensable. Then request full time telecommute. If you're as indispensable as you think, your boss will agree to your request.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2019-03-24 23:26
>>11052
What about Internet-based professions, whether that be working for oneself or not?
Hong, Guil Dong · 2019-03-24 23:49
Usually jobs have special teleworking criteria (must be need based, i.e. "my kid has cancer") and they put you on guidelines that don't allow you to use certain unsecured networks because of intellectual property theft.
The alternative is doing amazon mechanical turk type work where you work on one time jobs, or bug bounties.
>>11063
Generally speaking, most legitimate jobs (not paid hackers, or soy user startups run by 18-24 y/o) require you to at least work face to face part time or show up to an office at the beginning. Freelance coders may have the luxury of teleworking all the time, but in my experience they usually have to do phone conferences (which you cant do in public) or skype calls (also hard to do in public without looking unprofessional).
Turner · 2019-03-24 23:59
>>11065
It seems like I'm going to have to construct one of those "passive revenue streams". - Which, of course, requires start-up capital.
Spooky · 2019-03-25 00:12
Freelancing / self-employed is an option, if you have the people skills for sales and are willing to put in the time for it.
fsociety · 2019-03-25 07:19
The writer Stefan Gagne telecommutes some days off and on, but he has a legit excuse, being a diastrophic dwarf in a wheelchair with bad reflux.
He often discusses it in his blog:
http://stefangagne.com/
Donna Hawthorne · 2019-03-26 11:27
>>11068
This is an option I am considering, that's for certain.
anon · 2019-03-27 17:31
>>11052
The only realistic option, for me anyway. I may end up freelancing, but it'll be after I have a decade of work experience under my belt and I'll have "seen it all."
I've been with my company for about 2.5 yrs. Work from home on Thursdays, about to bump it to Thursdays & Fridays.
This fall I'm going to buy a popup camper and go on a 'vacation' where I am gone from the office for 3 weeks but work from the road for 2 weeks.
It is my short-term goal to do this kind of thing a handful of times over the next year or two, then take a summer in Mexico or something, working remotely.
In 5 years I hope to be fully remote, or just be fully remote optional. Go into the office when I feel like it.
I do own a house that I don't want to sell, so I'm not really looking for a "Digital Nomad" lifestyle. More like frequent camping trips and stuff.
Sipho Nkosi · 2019-04-04 15:31
"digital nomad" stuff is pretty whorish. I highly discourage that term. Most of them don't even "work", they just collect patreon bux or get payed to write for some blog.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2019-04-05 19:40
>>11237
I know many "digital nomads" who have a """respectable""" career in tech.
XERXES · 2019-07-29 21:06
>>11253
I would discourage digital nomad as a term because it makes wageslavery sound cooler when the term could be used for something better.
Random · 2019-07-30 00:48
>>11237
Getting paid to write is a job though. It's just blogs instead of newspapers now.
Crazy Jake · 2019-07-30 01:46
>>12351
Seconded. Also has a weird white-person-with-dreadlocks noble savage vibe to it. Just say you work remote. You aren't a hunter gatherer. You're part of the withering shell of the middle class as labor becomes too strange to remain sustainable.
I worked remote for several years making 3d models for people's steam games. It didn't pay well, but I didn't have to live in an expensive city. I was extremely hobocore. Speaking of white with dreadlocks, here's an actual photo of me during that period:
http://www.dobi.nu/yourscenesucks/crustpunk/index.htm