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Koichiro · 2019-03-24 00:17
what do you do about eye strain from your retinas being burned by computer screens? i already turned dark/night mode on for all programs that support it and there are browser extensions to take care of it while on interwebz but those usually just fuarrrk up the webpage. i was considering writing my own extension that would take care of particular sites i visit, but that sounds like too much work. also anyone else using that thingy that turns light emitted from your screen more red to make it easier on your eyes?
Nell · 2019-03-24 02:37
There are >Screen protectors (yellow/uv coating) or literally just yellow clear plastic >Glasses (computer or gaming glasses like those from gunnar that cost $50, poor users can just buy UVEX yellow or amber, in fact you can literally buy these in bulk)
Hagbard Celine · 2019-03-24 21:14
>>11047 Any way to do this without wearing obnoxious yellow glasses? Doubt, but I can hope
Batou · 2019-03-24 22:32
use a program that shifts your computer screen to be more red at night. They exist for all major platforms. redshift, etc.
Junichi Fujiwara · 2019-03-24 23:20
>>11057 i already use that... websites with white background are still killing me though :/
Yu-ichi · 2019-03-24 23:50
>>11062 On FF you can you Stylus to change themes, the most popular sites will usually have a dark theme or something.
Delilah · 2019-03-25 03:51
Making sure your environment is well-lit and taking breaks every hour or so are really the only practical things you can do. A warmer colour temperature helps, but the fact that you're essentially staring a ta lamp means eye-strain is always going to be a problem. Lowering the brightness is often counter-productive too, since many monitors implement brightness levels by alternating the LED backlight, which is uncomfortable at low frequencies. 90% of what I do is staring at text, so I would gladly pay good money for an e-ink monitor. Unfortunately the only product on the market is > $1000 for a little 13" screen. Not really practical for work.
Marly Krushkhova · 2019-03-25 23:15
After switching to a 2k retina display that automatically adjusts gamma and the red light filter, i dont seem to get any noticable eye strain from using my computer.
Project 2501 · 2019-03-26 00:04
>>11041 try a different plugin for your browser. I use dark mode for firefox and it doesn't mess up any pages. Or use a more configurable web browsear
John Rain · 2019-04-07 16:45
Dark reader extension for chrome
Knokd · 2019-04-08 13:40
I had the same problem, I would recomend you to use the program "f.lux", this program makes the color of your computer's display adapt to the time of day, warm at night and like sunlight during the day. Also helps to have a better sleep.
Dozer · 2019-04-11 17:00
>>11054 If you already have to wear glasses, you can get special lenses that filter blue light and are barely distinguishable from normal lenses.
fsociety · 2019-05-21 22:32
>>11262 Don't tell me you use chrome, anon.
Kixune · 2019-05-22 00:11
My favorite extension to modify browser colors in Chromium, Brave or Chrome is Midnight Lizard. I like how I can set base colors and make every website match my desktop theme. For my desktop, I use redshift with KDE Plasma's widget and dark themes for Qt and GTK. For PDFs, I use the KDE default reader (Okular) which allows you to invert colors or use a combination of any two colors; red and black, for example; also great to match your themes.
Hong, Guil Dong · 2019-05-22 00:29
>>11743 it seems like they are, anon.
Frank Garza · 2019-05-22 18:44
>>11041 >>11047 I have a pair of Eagle Eyes glasses that has a yellow/uv coating seems like they'd be a hell of a lot better than those. Never thought to wear them sitting at my desktop though. I think I'll randomly give it a try for a couple of days and see if I notice a change in my eyes.
Yu-ichi · 2019-06-23 17:09
Systane eye drops.
Turner · 2019-06-23 18:35
>>11062 There's an extension called Dark Reader that does universal dark mode for the web. It works pretty well. It works on FF too. Don't use chrome. Anyway, there's actually a lot of controversy over whether eye strain is even really a thing. At least as far as what colors / brightness schemes affect it. You might just be tired regardless. Maybe you lack exercise and proper sunlight to keep your circadian rhythm in check. I certainly do. But for every study saying that a 'light' color scheme is better for eye strain, there's also one that says inverted colors are better. They're all done using self-reported metrics of questionable usefulness, or completely worthless arguments like "books are black text on white paper, and we've been using those for ages so it must be better." Yeah, because ink is expensive so nobody's going to print a dark theme book. They also use reflected light, not emissive like a screen. Back when monitors were monochrome, the same pseudoscientific battle was raging on over whether green phosphor or amber phosphor was better for eye strain. Obviously that stopped being a thing, and though nobody is making an app that turns your screen green they still have ones that turn your screen amber. Supposedly for eye strain and sleep. It's almost certainly still snake oil. There's just not enough rigorous study to talk about eye strain authoritatively. Emphasis on rigorous. There have been tons of studies, but they contradict and aren't really replicated. And almost always they have very crappy experimental methodology. Or they're done by total laymen like graphic designers, who don't have any formal scientific training and obviously have a massive bias for empty white space. It's all closely related to the complete myth that reading small text or reading in the dark will make you need glasses later in life. It's totally untrue, like saying masturbation will blind you. What you look at doesn't affect the physical optics of your eye, unless you're looking at a high-intensity laser or the sun which both have enough wattage to actually destroy your tissues. Tiredness on the other hand is subjective and always caused by a multitude if different variables, many of them unavoidable. We hunch ourselves over electronic devices all day every day--lost in distractions and anxieties, with no concept of time--but when we get headaches we blame it on... the color scheme? This doesn't seem right. Dark or light mode, proper white balance or disgusting hideous orange-tinted screen--it's really just a question of subjective aesthetics. Choose which one you like and get more time away from the screen. A bunch of those flux app clones are packed with spyware, btw.
Jens Hansen · 2019-07-18 21:05
I go outside
Nguoi La · 2019-11-06 13:17
My eyes are getting so bad. Too much eye fatigue from time in front of the monitor. At the end of the night yesterday I was leaning in so close to my monitor. Inspecting the git diffs of my final commit at closely as possible. The lines of additions and deletions blurring in together. I turned thirty this year and I suppose it's part of growing old that I slowly give back the abilities of the body I've been given. But my god! I think back a decade. I'm sitting in the backseat of my friends car while we pass around a joint. It's dark, and my friend is holding up pennies in the front seat. From where I am sitting in the back I am reading the year the pennies were produced aloud to my friends. Now I'm praying that I am not missing any important information on the fine print of a medicine bottle before I gobble some down.
Unspecified · 2019-11-08 22:55
soykaf is like kicking dead whales down the beach My eyesight has been bad since elementary school but it's pretty consistently gotten worse and only maybe slowed down. I'm hoping it plateaus and I don't end up legally blind but who knows. I guess I'm more worried about losing my hearing
藤原純一 · 2019-11-09 10:13
>>13457 Your comparison from a decade ago is just like mine. I'm going on 30 myself now and I'm truly worried. I've been sitting in a dark room playing vidya and sitting on the internet at my desktops for literally my entire life. My vision hasn't really degraded since a decade ago. But I have noticed a considerable change in the feeling I get when sometimes my eyes will feel tired and strained. Also my eyes look 10-15 years older than the rest of my body if that makes any sense.
Miho Iwakura · 2019-11-09 12:28
Spend time outside in the daylight. Its what eyes need to stay healthy. Easiest way is to go on walks solo. I get my best thinking done that way.
Arisu Mizuki · 2020-04-11 00:54
The more time I spend on my computer, the more red my eyes are getting, it's getting ridicules. I've started wearing sunglasses when I'm using my pc. They are some expensive Ray-Ban brand which I got as a gift and that's the only pair of glasses I own. I'm not sure how effective they'll be compared to something like >>11047 suggested.
Lain Iwakura · 2020-04-11 07:55
>>16856 Surprised this thread got bumped, I started wearing sunglasses then upgraded to yellow glasses because the sunglasses were too dark. While they help with the UV light iirc they do not do anything to stop blue wavelengths which induce changes to your body that affect sleep, hunger, and hormones.
Faye Valentine · 2020-04-11 13:29
>>16857 >While they help with the UV light iirc they do not do anything to stop blue wavelengths which induce changes to your body that affect sleep, hunger, and hormones. Interesting, thanks for sharing. My main concern is eye redness because it takes a couple of days to completely go away.
Drifter · 2020-04-11 14:52
>>16861 More important than wearing protective glasses, you should: >drink more water >use eyedrops for eye lubrication >reduce your screen's brightness >blink more (seriously) Some antidepressants can make your eyes and lips go dry so the first two points are the most important.
Lain Iwakura · 2020-04-17 15:57
Pardon my ignorance but would changing the screen resolution do anything?
H.R. Giger · 2020-04-17 16:13
>>16911 For me it did, after I switched to a 1440p 32" my eyes are quite a bit better, but also note that a well lit room and a light desktop theme with possibly a red filter will keep your eyes more healthy. (To anyone wanting to argue that dark themes are better for your eyes.. it's just basic optics there is nothing to argue about.)